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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 9:07:38 GMT -5
Spot on !! I'm not even sweating where my girls will be in three years.......no way to know for certain winners and losers yet
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Post by soccermonster on May 3, 2018 9:09:34 GMT -5
UFA has always been transparent first. CF last. Ummmmm... your experience is that they have been transparent. Mine, very much the opposite. Just saying, nobody on here should paint with that broad of a brush. |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 9:29:25 GMT -5
I’m sorry I do think I have landed on a Girls only forum  But hey, I’ll make the most of it: USSF DA (boys): that’s the top level and out of that I am really only interested in AU. Everyone else is second fiddle at best. US Club ECNL: Agree I am not that impressed US Youth National League: We are on track to get promoted to this league for next Fall and I am excited about it US Club NPL: If ECNL is not that strong on the boys side then playing second division of US Club is not that attractive to me. SCCL: I’m trying not laugh out loud at this league |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 9:37:08 GMT -5
georgiasoccer411: Allow me to say bluntly: you act weird.
So what is your problem with girls? You say "But I'll make the most of it" as though girls are an afterthought. At least the Women have won World Cups.
I notice your slight jabs at the mention of "girls".......is there something you need to tell us?
Keep it respectful and remember, not every person on here has a hatred for the female game. I don't throw shade on the boys game so please don't throw shade on the girls.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 9:43:42 GMT -5
georgiasoccer411: Allow me to say bluntly: you act weird. So what is your problem with girls? You say "But I'll make the most of it" as though girls are an afterthought. At least the Women have won World Cups. I notice your slight jabs at the mention of "girls".......is there something you need to tell us? Keep it respectful and remember, not every person on here has a hatred for the female game. I don't throw shade on the boys game so please don't throw shade on the girls. Lol sorry no slight intended. Only implying that every time I try to get meanful discussion started on the boys side of soccer someone everyone goes back to talking girls side of soccer. Agree 100% that US Women’s National teams are awesome and the best I guess I need to get with the wife and work on having a daughter then the girls soccer discussion would be more important to me personally. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 9:46:46 GMT -5
Start a boys' only forum.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 3, 2018 9:49:32 GMT -5
That SSA 05 RPL team would beat most ECNL teams in this part of the country. They are good. Learned that the hard way LOL The SSA 05 RPL Team is very good but will they stay together now?  Isn't the SSA 04 RPL/NPL team really, really good also? From what I have heard they are one of the best in this region. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 3, 2018 10:04:07 GMT -5
Ummmmm... your experience is that they have been transparent. Mine, very much the opposite. Just saying, nobody on here should paint with that broad of a brush. Ok, that's your experience. Mine was having my child switch clubs to come over to UFA because we were told we would have coach "X". Only to find out after committing, that it was now going to be coach "Y". That's not even mentioning the multiple other promises that were broken... plus when asking questions as to why they were broken, either being told I'm not suppose to question it, or most times, getting no answer at all. So when you describe UFA as this transparent oasis where they tell no lies, I have to differ. And my experience is that they are HORRIBLE at communication. I have no affiliation with CF and have no agenda... just calling it out that NO club is free from propaganda and misdirection. Ultimately, every club has good coaches and bad, good age groups and bad, good communication and bad. We have made the best of the situation and have done quite well to make lemonade out of the lemons we were given. |
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Post by petrcechitout on May 3, 2018 10:04:19 GMT -5
I was told by a NASA/TopHat parent that TopHat will discuss the changes and new league on the first day of tryouts, right before they start. That sounds like a great way to communicate. (Insert Sarcasm)
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 10:07:23 GMT -5
The SSA 05 RPL Team is very good but will they stay together now? Isn't the SSA 04 RPL/NPL team really, really good also? From what I have heard they are one of the best in this region. Got beat by RedStar 4-2 and beat by Rush 2-0 |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 10:11:23 GMT -5
I definitely agree with cleansheet! UFA is better than CF when it comes to parent communication. UFA is VERY transparent with coaching changes and tries their best to inform the parents of future plans. I'd be curious to filter through the rumors on this page and see if CF is always at the center of it. Ok, that's your experience. Mine was having my child switch clubs to come over to UFA because we were told we would have coach "X". Only to find out after committing, that it was now going to be coach "Y". That's not even mentioning the multiple other promises that were broken... plus when asking questions as to why they were broken, either being told I'm not suppose to question it, or most times, getting no answer at all. So when you describe UFA as this transparent oasis where they tell no lies, I have to differ. And my experience is that they are HORRIBLE at communication. I have no affiliation with CF and have no agenda... just calling it out that NO club is free from propaganda and misdirection. Ultimately, every club has good coaches and bad, good age groups and bad, good communication and bad. We have made the best of the situation and have done quite well to make lemonade out of the lemons we were given. I’ve experienced both big club and small club. My experience is that the big clubs generate so much income they don’t care about the opinions of parents. Where as the small club does. The trick IMHO is to be at a small club with a top team that is or is capable of playing in a top league. |
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Post by petrcechitout on May 3, 2018 10:17:12 GMT -5
Can someone explain why the Big 5 are keeping Athena "A"/Classic "I" Teams, when they can't be promoted to RPL? I can only guess they would be promoted to SCCL?
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Post by soccermonster on May 3, 2018 10:17:14 GMT -5
I definitely agree with cleansheet! UFA is better than CF when it comes to parent communication. UFA is VERY transparent with coaching changes and tries their best to inform the parents of future plans. I'd be curious to filter through the rumors on this page and see if CF is always at the center of it. Ok, that's your experience. Mine was having my child switch clubs to come over to UFA because we were told we would have coach "X". Only to find out after committing, that it was now going to be coach "Y". That's not even mentioning the multiple other promises that were broken... plus when asking questions as to why they were broken, either being told I'm not suppose to question it, or most times, getting no answer at all. So when you describe UFA as this transparent oasis where they tell no lies, I have to differ. And my experience is that they are HORRIBLE at communication. I have no affiliation with CF and have no agenda... just calling it out that NO club is free from propaganda and misdirection. Ultimately, every club has good coaches and bad, good age groups and bad, good communication and bad. We have made the best of the situation and have done quite well to make lemonade out of the lemons we were given. Fair enough - sounds like you definitely have had your share of bad communication from UFA. I would totally be miffed at them switching coaches - that indeed is not a good feeling especially if you went there to play with Coach X and got Coach F. I have never experienced that but would totally flip out. I never said they didn't lie - that's like saying lawyers dont lie  Hope you are getting a better experience at your current club. You are corrrect - each club has their own issues. |
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Post by soccermonster on May 3, 2018 10:19:54 GMT -5
Start a boys' only forum. NOOO, don't do that, then I won't get my dose of daily humor! |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 10:39:58 GMT -5
Can someone explain why the Big 5 are keeping Athena "A"/Classic "I" Teams, when they can't be promoted to RPL? I can only guess they would be promoted to SCCL? Now that’s a good idea. Ban Big 5 from Classic I and Athena A since they can’t get promoted. Let Classic I and Athena only be for clubs that are trying to get promoted to National League. I like it |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 10:46:35 GMT -5
Start a boys' only forum. NOOO, don't do that, then I won't get my dose of daily humor! Maybe start separate forums for Big 5 and “the rest” of us |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 3, 2018 10:49:10 GMT -5
Can someone explain why the Big 5 are keeping Athena "A"/Classic "I" Teams, when they can't be promoted to RPL? I can only guess they would be promoted to SCCL? Now that’s a good idea. Ban Big 5 from Classic I and Athena A since they can’t get promoted. Let Classic I and Athena only be for clubs that are trying to get promoted to National League. I like it I don't agree. Everyone would like to have the best competition to play against regardless of whether the team gets promoted. How does that help the development of the players to ban them for the best level that they can play in at that moment? Now you sound like you are anti-development, pro-holding grudges. |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 10:56:32 GMT -5
Now that’s a good idea. Ban Big 5 from Classic I and Athena A since they can’t get promoted. Let Classic I and Athena only be for clubs that are trying to get promoted to National League. I like it I don't agree. Everyone would like to have the best competition to play against regardless of whether the team gets promoted. How does that help the development of the players to ban them for the best level that they can play in at that moment? Now you sound like you are anti-development, pro-holding grudges. I’ve become pro Little club and I’m use to U13 Classic I where minus the Pre-ECNL teams that we played last fall, I really didn’t think any of the Big 5 should be there. If you pulled up YMCA, Dalton, Red Star, Bryson Park, Georgia Express, and Alianza from Classic II that would be a great Classic I Division. |
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Post by petrcechitout on May 3, 2018 11:06:25 GMT -5
I don't agree. Everyone would like to have the best competition to play against regardless of whether the team gets promoted. How does that help the development of the players to ban them for the best level that they can play in at that moment? Now you sound like you are anti-development, pro-holding grudges. I’ve become pro Little club and I’m use to U13 Classic I where minus the Pre-ECNL teams that we played last fall, I really didn’t think any of the Big 5 should be there. If you pulled up YMCA, Dalton, Red Star, Bryson Park, Georgia Express, and Alianza from Classic II that would be a great Classic I Division. There are difference between the Boys & Girls but from what I can tell the reason the Big 5 might not have performed well is because the best teams/players from those clubs were not playing in Classic I. |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 11:18:16 GMT -5
They were playing DA but regardless their second teams largely SUCK compared to other club’s first teams.
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Post by zizou on May 3, 2018 11:30:05 GMT -5
They were playing DA but regardless their second teams largely SUCK compared to other club’s first teams. Three things: 1. Let's tone it down. No need to make judgements about the quality of teams with pejorative (all caps) descriptors such as "SUCK". 2. It appears we may have reached diminishing returns in this thread. We might consider locking this thread until there is more definitive information on what will happen with the organization and integration (or lack thereof) of different levels of play in the State and Region. We will see how things go from here. Right now there is lack of new information. 3. That being said, for the time being, if there is more useful information to add on this front, that would be awesome. If not, it is always a good idea to consider whether a post adds to the ongoing discussion before hitting "Create Post". Nothing wrong with humor in this regard, by the way. All in the interests of good clean fun! |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 11:32:58 GMT -5
They were playing DA but regardless their second teams largely SUCK compared to other club’s first teams. Look at the NASA team... how is that team that’s given up 30 something goals so far in Classic I supposed to move to ECNL next year? The Concorde teams are average at best. Compare that to the Concorde teams from five years ago. The SSA and GSA teams will be bottom pack even for the SCCL League next Fall. |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 11:40:21 GMT -5
They were playing DA but regardless their second teams largely SUCK compared to other club’s first teams. Three things: 1. Let's tone it down. No need to make judgements about the quality of teams with pejorative (all caps) descriptors such as "SUCK". 2. It appears we may have reached diminishing returns in this thread. We might consider locking this thread until there is more definitive information on what will happen with the organization and integration (or lack thereof) of different levels of play in the State and Region. We will see how things go from here. Right now there is lack of new information. 3. That being said, for the time being, if there is more useful information to add on this front, that would be awesome. If not, it is always a good idea to consider whether a post adds to the ongoing discussion before hitting "Create Post". Nothing wrong with humor in this regard, by the way. All in the interests of good clean fun! 1. Fair enough 3. Useful information: I believe there are still 2-3 threads to this conversation that are still open and viable A. Removing Big 5 from top level state leagues. This was an excellent suggestion and creates a unique scenario of a more clear option path for all parents between SCCL path and Georgia Soccer path. B. AFU and it’s status in keeping or losing National League stayus C. US Club and Big 5 grievance filing status |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 11:42:06 GMT -5
They were playing DA but regardless their second teams largely SUCK compared to other club’s first teams. Look at the NASA team... how is that team that’s given up 30 something goals so far in Classic I supposed to move to ECNL next year? The Concorde teams are average at best. Compare that to the Concorde teams from five years ago. The SSA and GSA teams will be bottom pack even for the SCCL League next Fall. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 11:43:39 GMT -5
411, you said: "The Concorde teams are average at best. Compare that to the Concorde teams from five years ago. ".............5 years ago gas was $3.51/gallon too.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 3, 2018 11:44:22 GMT -5
They were playing DA but regardless their second teams largely SUCK compared to other club’s first teams. Three things: 1. Let's tone it down. No need to make judgements about the quality of teams with pejorative (all caps) descriptors such as "SUCK". 2. It appears we may have reached diminishing returns in this thread. We might consider locking this thread until there is more definitive information on what will happen with the organization and integration (or lack thereof) of different levels of play in the State and Region. We will see how things go from here. Right now there is lack of new information. 3. That being said, for the time being, if there is more useful information to add on this front, that would be awesome. If not, it is always a good idea to consider whether a post adds to the ongoing discussion before hitting "Create Post". Nothing wrong with humor in this regard, by the way. All in the interests of good clean fun! very timely and very well said. The continued "spewing" and foaming of the mouth, whilst adding nothing to the thread, the forum or the discussion does nothing, other than lend legitimacy to that which should be ignored. I for one will continue to stay away from the back and forth that is solely based on innuendo, guesswork and a personal ax to grind. But instead I choose to indulge in meaningful dialogue that actually seeks to further educate our collective minds. Thanks for reminding us there is more than the petulant and sophomoric back and forth.  |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 11:46:46 GMT -5
411, you said: "The Concorde teams are average at best. Compare that to the Concorde teams from five years ago. ".............5 years ago gas was $3.51/gallon too. Yes that’s fair |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 11:48:18 GMT -5
Three things: 1. Let's tone it down. No need to make judgements about the quality of teams with pejorative (all caps) descriptors such as "SUCK". 2. It appears we may have reached diminishing returns in this thread. We might consider locking this thread until there is more definitive information on what will happen with the organization and integration (or lack thereof) of different levels of play in the State and Region. We will see how things go from here. Right now there is lack of new information. 3. That being said, for the time being, if there is more useful information to add on this front, that would be awesome. If not, it is always a good idea to consider whether a post adds to the ongoing discussion before hitting "Create Post". Nothing wrong with humor in this regard, by the way. All in the interests of good clean fun! very timely and very well said. The continued "spewing" and foaming of the mouth, whilst adding nothing to the thread, the forum or the discussion does nothing, other than lend legitimacy to that which should be ignored. I for one will continue to stay away from the back and forth that is solely based on innuendo, guesswork and a personal ax to grind. But instead I choose to indulge in meaningful dialogue that actually seeks to further educate our collective minds. Thanks for reminding us there is more than the petulant and sophomoric back and forth. We can about Girls UFA teams again if that makes you happier |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 3, 2018 11:52:51 GMT -5
All that said, what topic is more important right now? This is the biggest move In georgia soccer history. Big 5 make their own league. Rest of the little clubs organize. And Georgia Soccer grew a backbone. This is the biggest topic of the last couple of years.
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Post by surgesoccer on May 3, 2018 11:53:30 GMT -5
411, GA Rush, your club, record against:
UFA Fowler: 0-1
UFA Norcross: 1-1-1
Concorde Central: 1-1
By your logic if these three teams "suck", then your team "sucks". But that's your "I'm a little club so I hate all big club mentality". Personally I think these four teams are pretty good teams and fairly equal in talent. Yes GA Rush is on top of the table and good for them. They have played more consistent than UFA Norcross and Concorde, and as of now equal to UFA Fowler (similar records but Rush has played more games).
You can also add Roswell, MOBA, Athens, and the Steamers as teams that have played really good soccer in Fall and Spring. KSA I would exclude only because every chance they get they are pulling kids from the GA Storm team to play with them. The rest of the teams could be dropped to Classic two, but you really think that YMCA, Dalton, Red Star, Bryson Park, Georgia Express, and Alianza would fare that much better. UFA South was in Classic 2 in fall and was promoted to Classic 1 above these teams.
The level of rhetoric you are displaying is not natural. My guess is you want to bash the Big 5 and the new league to try to shape perceptions to prevent kids from leaving the smaller clubs to go to one of the Big 5. Or could be that, that is just who you are. Relax it's youth soccer.
I agree this thread has lost all value. When things or more clear I'm sure a new thread will start.
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Hope you are getting a better experience at your current club. You are corrrect - each club has their own issues. 
