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May 8, 2020 23:18:19 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 8, 2020 23:18:19 GMT -5
I wish UFA had 4 tryout nights for their select teams The ECNL team may be 4 days or at least starting on the 1st. They started DA a day before regular tryouts last year. |
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May 8, 2020 23:29:58 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on May 8, 2020 23:29:58 GMT -5
these dates aren't set in stone. They are waiting on CDC and US Soccer clearance still. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 8, 2020 23:35:07 GMT -5
Haven't clicked on the link, but lemme guess, NTH also released their long awaited coaching list too... aww, no such luck, guess we shall return to the TH Coaching 2020 Watch House-party 👀👀 |
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May 9, 2020 7:46:38 GMT -5
Post by soccernoleuk on May 9, 2020 7:46:38 GMT -5
I wish UFA had 4 tryout nights for their select teams I am surprised they start their tryouts for Select teams on Tuesday. This gives all their players the extra night to go to AFU, GSA, TopHat, etc. and try to earn a spot on the top team at another club. |
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May 9, 2020 7:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 9, 2020 7:59:13 GMT -5
I wish UFA had 4 tryout nights for their select teams I am surprised they start their tryouts for Select teams on Tuesday. This gives all their players the extra night to go to AFU, GSA, TopHat, etc. and try to earn a spot on the top team at another club. Until last year all tryouts for everyone started on Tuesday. Last year UFA had their DA tryouts on Monday and started tryouts for everyone else Tuesday. All of the other clubs did the top teams Monday and started everyone else Tuesday. The difference was that some had their SCCL teams on Monday, too, where UFA did not. They posted Tuesday for their select teams but the information is subject to change so they may change it or they may not care that much about their second teams players and below searching elsewhere. Who knows? Personally I think 4 days is too much if they are expecting you there all 4 days. |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 9, 2020 8:06:21 GMT -5
Haven't clicked on the link, but lemme guess, NTH also released their long awaited coaching list too... aww, no such luck, guess we shall return to the TH Coaching 2020 Watch House-party 👀👀 Futsal Gawdess you know better then that. Tophat doesn't release their coaches list until every club does there's. We like to make people wait, especially our players/parents. Lol |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 9, 2020 12:54:35 GMT -5
I am surprised they start their tryouts for Select teams on Tuesday. This gives all their players the extra night to go to AFU, GSA, TopHat, etc. and try to earn a spot on the top team at another club. Until last year all tryouts for everyone started on Tuesday. Last year UFA had their DA tryouts on Monday and started tryouts for everyone else Tuesday. All of the other clubs did the top teams Monday and started everyone else Tuesday. The difference was that some had their SCCL teams on Monday, too, where UFA did not. They posted Tuesday for their select teams but the information is subject to change so they may change it or they may not care that much about their second teams players and below searching elsewhere. Who knows? Personally I think 4 days is too much if they are expecting you there all 4 days.That's the part I hate about all these clubs... It makes it not about the kids. The force you to be loyal DURING TRYOUTS. Why? This is the one time of year a player should be allowed to explore options. If you love it, set it free... if it comes back, it was meant to be... |
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Post by soccergirldad on May 9, 2020 14:59:49 GMT -5
Tryouts are really a waist of time anyway. The teams are already made before tryouts even come about. By the time tryouts come around they are only looking for the one-off kid that they didn't expect to show up. We all know who's on the team already, including the new additions and whose getting cut.
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May 11, 2020 13:40:47 GMT -5
Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on May 11, 2020 13:40:47 GMT -5
Tryouts are really a waist of time anyway. The teams are already made before tryouts even come about. By the time tryouts come around they are only looking for the one-off kid that they didn't expect to show up. We all know who's on the team already, including the new additions and whose getting cut. You are shizatting me?!?!?!  |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 11, 2020 14:15:38 GMT -5
Tryouts are really a waist of time anyway. The teams are already made before tryouts even come about. By the time tryouts come around they are only looking for the one-off kid that they didn't expect to show up. We all know who's on the team already, including the new additions and whose getting cut. It's laziness... that's what it is... |
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Post by SoccerMom on May 11, 2020 17:55:56 GMT -5
Haven't clicked on the link, but lemme guess, NTH also released their long awaited coaching list too... aww, no such luck, guess we shall return to the TH Coaching 2020 Watch House-party 👀👀 Oh come on it's not that hard to figure out....you can just write TG with an arrow down for all teams. |
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May 11, 2020 17:59:37 GMT -5
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 11, 2020 17:59:37 GMT -5
Haven't clicked on the link, but lemme guess, NTH also released their long awaited coaching list too... aww, no such luck, guess we shall return to the TH Coaching 2020 Watch House-party 👀👀 Oh come on it's not that hard to figure out....you can just write TG with an arrow down for all teams. Maybe for the top GA team but who will do the second GA team? We know TG will have nothing to do with them or the DPL team |
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May 11, 2020 18:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on May 11, 2020 18:01:48 GMT -5
Oh come on it's not that hard to figure out....you can just write TG with an arrow down for all teams. Maybe for the top GA team but who will do the second GA team? We know TG will have nothing to do with them or the DPL team He will still put his name on there....I mean how else do you convince people to stay? 🤦🏻♀️ Then he will assign one of his assistant minions to take over |
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May 12, 2020 5:51:54 GMT -5
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Post by cosmos on May 12, 2020 5:51:54 GMT -5
Anybody know anything about Bill Urban? Heard he is a good coach but I know nothing about him. He coached DPL at Tophat last year and I am imagining he will get one of the new GA team. Does anyone know about his playing style/practices/relationship with girls/ and helping with college placement?
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May 12, 2020 18:17:45 GMT -5
Post by soccergirldad on May 12, 2020 18:17:45 GMT -5
Sooooo, not for nothing but is anyone going to mention anything about Portland Thorns being admitted into ECNL today?  I mean clearly they, ECNL, are still admitting clubs into the league, just not our "favorite" club. |
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May 12, 2020 18:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on May 12, 2020 18:45:33 GMT -5
What's the name of the coach with the AM initials coming from UFA?
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May 13, 2020 7:55:11 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerphreak on May 13, 2020 7:55:11 GMT -5
I cannot remember the thread where someone mentioned a TH coach or board member potentially moving their kid(s) to an ECNL club but how do you think TG would feel if he knew this was actually more of a reality than a suspicion?
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May 13, 2020 8:55:38 GMT -5
Post by soccergirldad on May 13, 2020 8:55:38 GMT -5
Don't know the TH structure so I don't know what board member has a kid that plays but I do know for sure that players are leaving the teams I mentioned previously......buuuuttt with that being said there will be movement from other teams as well, it's time of year.
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Post by mistergrinch on May 13, 2020 9:41:34 GMT -5
What's the name of the coach with the AM initials coming from UFA? Alex Munoz |
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Post by DOOM on May 13, 2020 13:33:55 GMT -5
Don't know the TH structure so I don't know what board member has a kid that plays but I do know for sure that players are leaving the teams I mentioned previously......buuuuttt with that being said there will be movement from other teams as well, it's time of year. You do realize that NO top level ECNL player will leave an ECNL club to come to TH...that's not happening this year. |
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May 13, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5
Post by soccerloafer on May 13, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5
Anybody know anything about Bill Urban? Heard he is a good coach but I know nothing about him. He coached DPL at Tophat last year and I am imagining he will get one of the new GA team. Does anyone know about his playing style/practices/relationship with girls/ and helping with college placement? He was ok. Assigned as caretaker for the oldest DPL team last year, which was loaded with talent, and didn't screw it up. So he did his job and wasn't a jerk, which is important. The girls were fine with him. My categories for coach are no, ok, and great. Ruled out the no for Bill, need more time and different circumstances to get from ok to great as an assessment. |
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Post by guest on May 14, 2020 11:02:30 GMT -5
OK, I waited till I had some time at the family PC to write this. Seems it has been booked solid these last couple months :-)
As I was reading through the replies about NTH not getting ECNL, I started noticing a theme of why all this hate for TH' develop. Lots of snarky comments about what goes around comes around, loyalty, burned bridges, etc about why TH would not get ECNL. Then probably half a dozen replies decrying all the hate or vitriol (which is usually a liquid at room temperature BTW). For the most part there was no hate going on, just good ole fashioned Schadenfreude, that most German of all emotions. I suspect a lot of it stemmed from TopHat's long record of success in various leagues.
Anyway, I thought I would chime in my reasons for why I can sit back and smile at TH being shut out of ECNL.
1) Long ago I was at a field, might have been Fowler, for my kids game. We were there early. Warmups start an hour before kickoff, plus we like to get there early. So the previous game had really just got kicked off. I got to sit nonchalantly on the sidelines and observe the parents. In my area, it was about 4 Tophat Dads. To be sure, our team had obnoxious dads too. But in addition to the normal soccer foolishness (c'mon ref, are you blind? and Oh, that's gotta be a card!) there was snootiness off the charts." So how was your weekend? Oh it was great, flew up to Alaska to fish; the salmon were really biting. Yeah, we're going to Turks and Caicos next weekend for a family diving trip." And so on. Also, I don't know why this sticks out after so many years, but I remember the shoes they were wearing. I didn't recognize any of the brands. No Nike or adidas. Just odd, European looking sneakers. I looked it up and one of them was a $400 pair of shoes. And they weren't even LeBrons! Just came off like they were a different species.
2) Have to go back to U13 I think. Our team did well in Athena A. We were going to be the first team in club history to get promoted to R3PL. One team ahead of us was "TopHat Pre-ECNL". Our team for the most part carried over year to year. But the TopHat team was all new. The team that had won the spot moved up to full-blown ECNL at U14. At the time, we thought OK well then we should get the nod from Ga Soccer to join R3PL. Nope. It was given to TopHat's new "Gold" team. This was the team we smoked the year before. Wow. What a rude awakening to Ga Soccer politics. Of course, they stunk up the bottom of the R3PL table. Who did we play at State Cup that year? TopHat Gold? You might think. but there were so many ECNL patches on the jerseys that it would be more accurate to say we played their "Platinum" team (remember that color coded name?). We did make it in to R3PL that year but still.
3) We had one, maybe two players leave our small club to join TH. Standard process of kids club-hopping from a small club to big one. Neither play club ball now.
So no I do not hate TH. But I can still smirk at their recent ECNL woes. ;-)
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 14, 2020 11:16:22 GMT -5
OK, I waited till I had some time at the family PC to write this. Seems it has been booked solid these last couple months :-) As I was reading through the replies about NTH not getting ECNL, I started noticing a theme of why all this hate for TH' develop. Lots of snarky comments about what goes around comes around, loyalty, burned bridges, etc about why TH would not get ECNL. Then probably half a dozen replies decrying all the hate or vitriol (which is usually a liquid at room temperature BTW). For the most part there was no hate going on, just good ole fashioned Schadenfreude, that most German of all emotions. I suspect a lot of it stemmed from TopHat's long record of success in various leagues. Anyway, I thought I would chime in my reasons for why I can sit back and smile at TH being shut out of ECNL. 1) Long ago I was at a field, might have been Fowler, for my kids game. We were there early. Warmups start an hour before kickoff, plus we like to get there early. So the previous game had really just got kicked off. I got to sit nonchalantly on the sidelines and observe the parents. In my area, it was about 4 Tophat Dads. To be sure, our team had obnoxious dads too. But in addition to the normal soccer foolishness (c'mon ref, are you blind? and Oh, that's gotta be a card!) there was snootiness off the charts." So how was your weekend? Oh it was great, flew up to Alaska to fish; the salmon were really biting. Yeah, we're going to Turks and Caicos next weekend for a family diving trip." And so on. Also, I don't know why this sticks out after so many years, but I remember the shoes they were wearing. I didn't recognize any of the brands. No Nike or adidas. Just odd, European looking sneakers. I looked it up and one of them was a $400 pair of shoes. And they weren't even LeBrons! Just came off like they were a different species. 2) Have to go back to U13 I think. Our team did well in Athena A. We were going to be the first team in club history to get promoted to R3PL. One team ahead of us was "TopHat Pre-ECNL". Our team for the most part carried over year to year. But the TopHat team was all new. The team that had won the spot moved up to full-blown ECNL at U14. At the time, we thought OK well then we should get the nod from Ga Soccer to join R3PL. Nope. It was given to TopHat's new "Gold" team. This was the team we smoked the year before. Wow. What a rude awakening to Ga Soccer politics. Of course, they stunk up the bottom of the R3PL table. Who did we play at State Cup that year? TopHat Gold? You might think. but there were so many ECNL patches on the jerseys that it would be more accurate to say we played their "Platinum" team (remember that color coded name?). We did make it in to R3PL that year but still. 3) We had one, maybe two players leave our small club to join TH. Standard process of kids club-hopping from a small club to big one. Neither play club ball now. So no I do not hate TH. But I can still smirk at their recent ECNL woes. ;-) I know what you have written is based on your experience and I will not try to change it but I will say this 1) yes Tophat does have many affluent parents (Look at were the club is located) but let me tell you more then half of the parents are not wearing $400 sneakers or going to Alaska or Turks and Caicos. I happen to be one if those parents. 2) you should be mad at Georgia Soccer for moving Tophat and not your team. I'm sure you probably think Tophat bought the spot. I can also agree that I used to feel the same like many people here do about Tophat but I found out it is not like people think. This happen at every club even the one you don't think it would |
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Post by girlsoccer on May 14, 2020 11:29:33 GMT -5
OK, I waited till I had some time at the family PC to write this. Seems it has been booked solid these last couple months :-) As I was reading through the replies about NTH not getting ECNL, I started noticing a theme of why all this hate for TH' develop. Lots of snarky comments about what goes around comes around, loyalty, burned bridges, etc about why TH would not get ECNL. Then probably half a dozen replies decrying all the hate or vitriol (which is usually a liquid at room temperature BTW). For the most part there was no hate going on, just good ole fashioned Schadenfreude, that most German of all emotions. I suspect a lot of it stemmed from TopHat's long record of success in various leagues. Anyway, I thought I would chime in my reasons for why I can sit back and smile at TH being shut out of ECNL. 1) Long ago I was at a field, might have been Fowler, for my kids game. We were there early. Warmups start an hour before kickoff, plus we like to get there early. So the previous game had really just got kicked off. I got to sit nonchalantly on the sidelines and observe the parents. In my area, it was about 4 Tophat Dads. To be sure, our team had obnoxious dads too. But in addition to the normal soccer foolishness (c'mon ref, are you blind? and Oh, that's gotta be a card!) there was snootiness off the charts." So how was your weekend? Oh it was great, flew up to Alaska to fish; the salmon were really biting. Yeah, we're going to Turks and Caicos next weekend for a family diving trip." And so on. Also, I don't know why this sticks out after so many years, but I remember the shoes they were wearing. I didn't recognize any of the brands. No Nike or adidas. Just odd, European looking sneakers. I looked it up and one of them was a $400 pair of shoes. And they weren't even LeBrons! Just came off like they were a different species. 2) Have to go back to U13 I think. Our team did well in Athena A. We were going to be the first team in club history to get promoted to R3PL. One team ahead of us was "TopHat Pre-ECNL". Our team for the most part carried over year to year. But the TopHat team was all new. The team that had won the spot moved up to full-blown ECNL at U14. At the time, we thought OK well then we should get the nod from Ga Soccer to join R3PL. Nope. It was given to TopHat's new "Gold" team. This was the team we smoked the year before. Wow. What a rude awakening to Ga Soccer politics. Of course, they stunk up the bottom of the R3PL table. Who did we play at State Cup that year? TopHat Gold? You might think. but there were so many ECNL patches on the jerseys that it would be more accurate to say we played their "Platinum" team (remember that color coded name?). We did make it in to R3PL that year but still. 3) We had one, maybe two players leave our small club to join TH. Standard process of kids club-hopping from a small club to big one. Neither play club ball now. So no I do not hate TH. But I can still smirk at their recent ECNL woes. ;-) It seems sad/odd/not sure of the appropriate word here that you begrudge people financial success and especially strange that you inspected them closely enough to not only notice but to look up their shoes to see how much they cost?? There should not be anything inherently wrong with success. I’ll throw in my experience with those ecnl patches- poor sportsmanship imo but I have seen many ecnl patches on other club jerseys playing “down” in SCCL and Athena A, so it is definitely not isolated to Tophat. Nonetheless, I understand the desire to see a club that has won a lot get knocked down a peg. I suppose it is human nature. |
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May 14, 2020 12:11:49 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2020 12:11:49 GMT -5
I get the dislike of the affluenza and in the past Tophat reaping benefits from GA Soccer politics for it. Thankfully those days are gone. The playing field is becoming less favorable to them.
As a club they are likely trying to continue to recruit families with their 3 travel teams per age group, which is asinine IMO, but so be it. Would be nice if they joined us in the real world. Travel without an actual purpose is nonsense. May as well make the whole club into travel teams and not play any competition in Georgia at all.
Also, ECNL isn't "full", they just added Portland Thorns. They have no problem adding other top clubs. There's definitely a reason/reasons NTH was left out intentionally. They will get back in in a year or two IMO.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 14, 2020 12:28:56 GMT -5
I get the dislike of the affluenza and in the past Tophat reaping benefits from GA Soccer politics for it. Thankfully those days are gone. The playing field is becoming less favorable to them. As a club they are likely trying to continue to recruit families with their 3 travel teams per age group, which is asinine IMO, but so be it. Would be nice if they joined us in the real world. Travel without an actual purpose is nonsense. May as well make the whole club into travel teams and not play any competition in Georgia at all. Please forgive me but I am lost. Tophat joined GAL after not getting into ECNL and their belief is it is going to be a very good league, (Time will tell) so they are doing their job recruiting players for the club. As for the travel and joining the real world, 1) I believe the travel will be the same as ECNL. 2) Also how are Tophat top teams going to play Atlanta Top Team when ECNL is blocking them? 3) Would the ECNL team play Tophat GAL teams? How would it look if they lost while ECNL is promoting they are the best league to be in. Also in my daughter age group, Concorde will have 3 ECNL teams. AFU, UFA, GSA will have 2 ECNL team. (ECNL and ECNL Composite) |
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May 14, 2020 12:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by guest on May 14, 2020 12:34:03 GMT -5
I bet this will be a small speed bump in future TH success.
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Post by guest on May 14, 2020 12:45:02 GMT -5
I know. Shoes? Really? Totally weird. Why do we remember the things we do? I don’t know. But I was in my camp chair in the second row biding my time behind these dudes. So it all transpired right in front of me, shoes and all.
And I’m sure I came off like quite the prole; I prob celebrate May Day, right? No, I celebrate capitalism and success too. But these Dads’ amps went to 11.
And you’re right about Ga Soccer. It’s why there were no tears shed on our way out the door to SCCL.
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Post by soccergirldad on May 14, 2020 13:43:38 GMT -5
Nope, I'm pretty sure TH will not ever be the same after this and I'll tell you why. Right now they are can still get by with this GAL "thing" for now because the 03's are mostly all committed so it really doesn't make a difference what league they are playing in. You will see some movement with the 04's because roughly a third of the team has committed to colleges which still leaves sought 10-12 girls who will still look to showcase their skills (assuming they have any) in front of major college coaches because they were not offered spots on college teams as of yet. Meaning you will see those girls start to look elsewhere. Let's just say it takes TH at least 3 more years before ECNL will allow them back in, (they're definitely not getting in this year or next), starting from the 05 age group on down, those players will see all of the attention that the ECNL players are getting (just like DA used to receive) and want that same attention and opportunities to fetch those coveted college spots and will definitely defect. So again it won't hurt them too bad right now but its the younger age group that they need to hold on to because whenever they are allowed back into ECNL, which will happen, they need to come in with a strong presence and not coming in with a deeply weakened talent pool.
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May 14, 2020 13:45:50 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2020 13:45:50 GMT -5
ECNL Composite is a completely different thing. As I understand it, its really meant for HS Seniors (U19 trap year players and U18 2nd team seniors) whereas the normal U19 is simply the next ECNL stage after U17. Primarily those who don't have college commitments but are looking to play at the next level. Its a showcase league where results don't really mean anything (aside from pride), basically a place for a lot of 2nd team players who haven't had the college exposure of ECNL (there are exceptions of course). For the most part those Concorde Premier teams are joint SSA teams (08, 07, 06, 05 run out of Franklin Gateway). There's reason the 04, 03 and 02-01 Concorde Premier teams weren't very good from the start. An ATL club simply cannot have 2 elite teams, it just doesn't work out. We've seen 2 local clubs try it, both failed. Comparing their situation to the deal Concorde got was foolish. If Concorde didn't ally themselves with SSA, who knows if they would even have 2 teams at this point. I don't have a problem with GAL whatsoever, its a league that is filling the void by those left hanging by DA, great idea. NTH putting 2 teams in GAL was one thing, but additionally having a 3rd travel team which will spend 4-5K a year in travel in a lower league is ridiculous (3 trips to central/south Florida like ECNL likely for a significantly lower level league). Having GAL and DPL as separate entities wasn't well thought out and they didn't even try to get other local clubs on board to lessen the travel on families, instead they are the only club with 2 teams in the primary league and a team in a secondary travel league. This is all my opinion of course. And opinions are like...  |
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I mean clearly they, ECNL, are still admitting clubs into the league, just not our "favorite" club. 
