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Jun 10, 2020 22:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 10, 2020 22:10:33 GMT -5
After all the movement of clubs..... which clubs are still participating in Select under Ga Soccer?
All-In
Impact
InterAtlanta
Sudamerica
Alianza
Correcaminos
Rysa
KSA
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GA Soccer
Jun 11, 2020 6:16:08 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 11, 2020 6:16:08 GMT -5
Unless something has changed, rysa is listed as an SCCL-P team.
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Jun 11, 2020 6:19:38 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 11, 2020 6:19:38 GMT -5
Unless something has changed, rysa is listed as an SCCL-P team. You're right, then its TYSA who is still GA Soccer |
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Jun 11, 2020 6:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 11, 2020 6:54:51 GMT -5
Unless something has changed, rysa is listed as an SCCL-P team. You're right, then its TYSA who is still GA Soccer I believe all of AFCs second teams will be and all MOBA teams as well (NL and USL teams excluded). |
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Jun 11, 2020 6:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 11, 2020 6:58:50 GMT -5
Unless something has changed, rysa is listed as an SCCL-P team. You're right, then its TYSA who is still GA Soccer TYSA was added to SCCL-P a few weeks ago too |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 11, 2020 7:16:42 GMT -5
After all the movement of clubs..... which clubs are still participating in Select under Ga Soccer? All-In Impact InterAtlanta Sudamerica Alianza Correcaminos Rysa KSA RYSA and TYSA are both SCCL and club soccer now. You left off AFC 2nd team and below (higher team plays NPL) and MOBA (almost all of their teams) There are a few other odd and ends small clubs here and there that I don't even know their name for them. Essentially GA Soccer is done, and I don't expect to it to be more than a glorified Rec. league in another year or two. I know there are plenty of parents of kids on teams in GA Soccer contacting SCCL clubs at this point to see if little Johnny or Suzy can get a spot on one of their teams. I believe the travel for Classic and Athena is going to be horrible this year due to how few clubs remain. I envision the small Atlanta metro clubs still in it having to travel 3-4 hours one way around GA for games and vice versa. |
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Jun 11, 2020 7:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Jun 11, 2020 7:31:29 GMT -5
I'd argue "rec league" is parents screaming on sidelines during games and looking for new players on a message board rather than promoting kids from within their club. The clubs that are looking for kids are not developers of talent. Keep that in mind when looking for a spot for your young one.
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Post by flamengo100 on Jun 11, 2020 7:35:00 GMT -5
FYI- Correcaminos Dalton + Rome is now known as North Georgia Soccer Association
What about these other clubs?
Dalton Red Wolves
Atlanta City
ASC Gainesville
Decatur
Athens United
Savannah
FC Brookhaven
SSA Dekalb?
UFA Lawrenceville?
MAYS Strikers
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 11, 2020 7:42:45 GMT -5
FYI- Correcaminos Dalton + Rome is now known as North Georgia Soccer Association What about these other clubs? Dalton Red Wolves Atlanta City ASC Gainesville Decatur Athens United Savannah FC Brookhaven SSA Dekalb? UFA Lawrenceville? MAYS Strikers Brookhaven is now UFA metro Atlanta. All UFA and SSA teams are in SCCL-P |
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GA Soccer
Jun 11, 2020 7:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 11, 2020 7:48:34 GMT -5
After all the movement of clubs..... which clubs are still participating in Select under Ga Soccer? All-In Impact InterAtlanta Sudamerica Alianza Correcaminos Rysa KSA RYSA and TYSA are both SCCL and club soccer now. You left off AFC 2nd team and below (higher team plays NPL) and MOBA (almost all of their teams) There are a few other odd and ends small clubs here and there that I don't even know their name for them. Essentially GA Soccer is done, and I don't expect to it to be more than a glorified Rec. league in another year or two. I know there are plenty of parents of kids on teams in GA Soccer contacting SCCL clubs at this point to see if little Johnny or Suzy can get a spot on one of their teams. I believe the travel for Classic and Athena is going to be horrible this year due to how few clubs remain. I envision the small Atlanta metro clubs still in it having to travel 3-4 hours one way around GA for games and vice versa. Having a son now playing in GA soccer and not NPL, I’m going to enjoy only traveling 3-4 hours for a game and not having to book hotel rooms. Since our family is not from Atlanta, I’m not sure the time/expense is worth it for ECNL, ODP or NPL. I do agree that the state of GA soccer is sad-our little club (that no longer exists) used to love playing Concorde, SSA, etc. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 11, 2020 10:41:43 GMT -5
RYSA and TYSA are both SCCL and club soccer now. You left off AFC 2nd team and below (higher team plays NPL) and MOBA (almost all of their teams) There are a few other odd and ends small clubs here and there that I don't even know their name for them. Essentially GA Soccer is done, and I don't expect to it to be more than a glorified Rec. league in another year or two. I know there are plenty of parents of kids on teams in GA Soccer contacting SCCL clubs at this point to see if little Johnny or Suzy can get a spot on one of their teams. I believe the travel for Classic and Athena is going to be horrible this year due to how few clubs remain. I envision the small Atlanta metro clubs still in it having to travel 3-4 hours one way around GA for games and vice versa. Having a son now playing in GA soccer and not NPL, I’m going to enjoy only traveling 3-4 hours for a game and not having to book hotel rooms. Since our family is not from Atlanta, I’m not sure the time/expense is worth it for ECNL, ODP or NPL. I do agree that the state of GA soccer is sad-our little club (that no longer exists) used to love playing Concorde, SSA, etc. If I remember right you were part of Troup right? They got taken over by Storm then AFC. I remember our teams going down to Troup to play the Troup soccer club in the academy days. Of course GA Soccer will still be easier travel than NPL. I'm not sure I would do NPL with my kid. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 11, 2020 10:48:47 GMT -5
I'd argue "rec league" is parents screaming on sidelines during games and looking for new players on a message board rather than promoting kids from within their club. The clubs that are looking for kids are not developers of talent. Keep that in mind when looking for a spot for your young one. You can argue that all you want, but teams that are looking for new players on message boards are just parents asking for their kid's teams. No director or coach is on here looking for kids on a message board. I know my post on SSA's on the southside is from a parent looking out for my club location and my kid's team. With 3 clubs in a 15 mile radius on the southside and not as many people on the southside as the northern suburbs the kids are spread across AFC/MOBA/SSA South. I know that there are plenty of kids from MOBA and AFC looking for an SCCL team in our SSA branch though. When it is all said and done if there was not a team for my kid at my SSA South location I would just take him to the SSA Cobb location for a SCCL team. I still would not put him in GA Soccer anymore. It is a dying organization whether you want to admit it or not. I'm not saying what the clubs of SCCL are doing is necessarily the best thing for the kids but it is what it is at this point, and I'm just putting my kid in the best position moving forward no matter who controls Soccer in Georgia. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 11, 2020 11:17:45 GMT -5
Assuming that rumors are true that SCCL-Champions will play each team one time, with the exception of a single trip to either Birmingham or Knoxville, all of the clubs are located very close to one another. The parameters are SSA to the West, GSA to the East, Concorde (GSP) to the South, and Rush to the North (UFA is out of Norcross).
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 11, 2020 11:21:36 GMT -5
New information out on SCCL-P:
The SCCL Premier division is expanding to multiple levels of Premier beginning fall 2020. Promotion and relegation will be utilized to provide for appropriate competition across multiple levels.
All SCCL Premier clubs will play a 10-12 game season schedule, which will allow teams to participate in pre and post season tournaments and showcases, and other events which will enhance and improve their teams’ development and exposure. Scheduling of the SCCL Premier division will be conducted utilizing a conventional scheduling platform with home and away games – but will not be scheduled in home and away fixtures with other teams from the same club.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 11, 2020 11:51:17 GMT -5
New information out on SCCL-P: The SCCL Premier division is expanding to multiple levels of Premier beginning fall 2020. Promotion and relegation will be utilized to provide for appropriate competition across multiple levels. All SCCL Premier clubs will play a 10-12 game season schedule, which will allow teams to participate in pre and post season tournaments and showcases, and other events which will enhance and improve their teams’ development and exposure. Scheduling of the SCCL Premier division will be conducted utilizing a conventional scheduling platform with home and away games – but will not be scheduled in home and away fixtures with other teams from the same club. Yeah this was likely always going to be the case. We got the word that our homes games will actually be home games now a month or so ago (not some SSA field an hour away from where we train). The parents on my son's team loved hearing that news. I'm also excited that the Coach/TM will now have more leeway on game times and arranging make-ups etc... It was too rigid in the previous format and it was impossible to get convenient make-ups scheduled since the whole club had to be able to do it on that day. |
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Post by messindreams on Jun 11, 2020 12:11:41 GMT -5
Does ODP count and matter? I hope ODP survives and gets better.
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Post by blu on Jun 11, 2020 12:45:22 GMT -5
Does ODP count and matter? I hope ODP survives and gets better. I think ODP will mean more now that most everyone can play it. I still don't think a lot of top players will bother with it though. |
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Post by baller84 on Jun 11, 2020 13:20:28 GMT -5
New information out on SCCL-P: The SCCL Premier division is expanding to multiple levels of Premier beginning fall 2020. Promotion and relegation will be utilized to provide for appropriate competition across multiple levels. All SCCL Premier clubs will play a 10-12 game season schedule, which will allow teams to participate in pre and post season tournaments and showcases, and other events which will enhance and improve their teams’ development and exposure. Scheduling of the SCCL Premier division will be conducted utilizing a conventional scheduling platform with home and away games – but will not be scheduled in home and away fixtures with other teams from the same club. Yeah this was likely always going to be the case. We got the word that our homes games will actually be home games now a month or so ago (not some SSA field an hour away from where we train). The parents on my son's team loved hearing that news. I'm also excited that the Coach/TM will now have more leeway on game times and arranging make-ups etc... It was too rigid in the previous format and it was impossible to get convenient make-ups scheduled since the whole club had to be able to do it on that day. Thank you for the info and explanations. Not easy to find on websites or from other managers or coaches. |
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GA Soccer
Jun 11, 2020 13:37:56 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 11, 2020 13:37:56 GMT -5
Does ODP count and matter? I hope ODP survives and gets better. I think ODP will mean more now that most everyone can play it. I still don't think a lot of top players will bother with it though. [br I don’t think it will ever be what it was now that there are MLS academies. |
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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Jun 11, 2020 13:47:12 GMT -5
Does ODP count and matter? I hope ODP survives and gets better. I think ODP will mean more now that most everyone can play it. I still don't think a lot of top players will bother with it though. I agree and think that players whose parents called the coach and the coach called to have them put on the team may not be able to maintain that any longer. For the kids who didn't play because DA would not let them may be first in line. My kid won't be going back. After watching the behind the scenes stuff, it just ruined the integrity and my kid's pretty in tune'd to that. |
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GA Soccer
Jun 11, 2020 13:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 11, 2020 13:57:11 GMT -5
I think ODP will mean more now that most everyone can play it. I still don't think a lot of top players will bother with it though. I agree and think that players whose parents called the coach and the coach called to have them put on the team may not be able to maintain that any longer. For the kids who didn't play because DA would not let them may be first in line. My kid won't be going back. After watching the behind the scenes stuff, it just ruined the integrity and my kid's pretty in tune'd to that. My advice is that if you live in/around Atlanta and want the extra practice go for it. If you live in Waycross... |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 11, 2020 17:32:58 GMT -5
Almost all our practices were at Arizona Ave this past year. Better than RYSA where I guess they had it the previous year. From what I heard it was better attended this year due to location. Our experience was pretty good, enough to make the money worth the touches and coaching.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 11, 2020 18:30:00 GMT -5
Older boys ages were at Atlanta United United training facilities last couple years my kid played. He played 4 years. Great facility and Coach was great.
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Post by bogan on Jun 11, 2020 18:39:12 GMT -5
Older boys ages were at Atlanta United United training facilities last couple years my kid played. He played 4 years. Great facility and Coach was great. We alternated between RYSA and ATL UTD. It was fun but 3 hrs each way was a bit much...especially on a Friday night. Sunday s weren’t as bad, but still late getting home. Coaching was good, no complaints on quality. |
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 11, 2020 19:09:12 GMT -5
New information out on SCCL-P: The SCCL Premier division is expanding to multiple levels of Premier beginning fall 2020. Promotion and relegation will be utilized to provide for appropriate competition across multiple levels. All SCCL Premier clubs will play a 10-12 game season schedule, which will allow teams to participate in pre and post season tournaments and showcases, and other events which will enhance and improve their teams’ development and exposure. Scheduling of the SCCL Premier division will be conducted utilizing a conventional scheduling platform with home and away games – but will not be scheduled in home and away fixtures with other teams from the same club. Yeah this was likely always going to be the case. We got the word that our homes games will actually be home games now a month or so ago (not some SSA field an hour away from where we train). The parents on my son's team loved hearing that news. I'm also excited that the Coach/TM will now have more leeway on game times and arranging make-ups etc... It was too rigid in the previous format and it was impossible to get convenient make-ups scheduled since the whole club had to be able to do it on that day. Are you sure about the leeway on makeups? I read the following: NPL and SCCL will now fine teams $250 per incident, for games that need to be rescheduled for reasons other than inclement weather. If your team is charged a re-schedule fee, the amount will be divided equally among all rostered players, regardless of individual participation and is considered an additional expense (not included in the participation fees). |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 11, 2020 19:39:44 GMT -5
We are in metro Atlanta so 45 mins on a bad Sunday night. Kid enjoyed the AU facilities.
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GA Soccer
Jun 11, 2020 19:54:17 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 11, 2020 19:54:17 GMT -5
We are in metro Atlanta so 45 mins on a bad Sunday night. Kid enjoyed the AU facilities. I would agree-45min-1 1/2 hour drive would be worth doing. |
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jun 15, 2020 7:31:57 GMT -5
Does ODP count and matter? I hope ODP survives and gets better. I think ODP will mean more now that most everyone can play it. I still don't think a lot of top players will bother with it though. I agree that it will probably benefit from more kids at tryouts, but most of those kids might be from lower level teams looking for some "extra" training. From what I have seen, ODP could use some house cleaning ... |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 15, 2020 7:36:53 GMT -5
Yeah this was likely always going to be the case. We got the word that our homes games will actually be home games now a month or so ago (not some SSA field an hour away from where we train). The parents on my son's team loved hearing that news. I'm also excited that the Coach/TM will now have more leeway on game times and arranging make-ups etc... It was too rigid in the previous format and it was impossible to get convenient make-ups scheduled since the whole club had to be able to do it on that day. Are you sure about the leeway on makeups? I read the following: NPL and SCCL will now fine teams $250 per incident, for games that need to be rescheduled for reasons other than inclement weather. If your team is charged a re-schedule fee, the amount will be divided equally among all rostered players, regardless of individual participation and is considered an additional expense (not included in the participation fees). That is no different really than what GA soccer rules really read either. There are almost no reschedules except for rain-outs anyway at least as far as matchdays go. Now there are plenty of times where games might need to be moved around to a different time etc... That happened all the time last season in SCCL-P and probably SCCL-C as well. At the beginning of the week our team would be playing at 10am then it gets moved to 1pm instead due to a conflict with one of the coaches coaching another game. They aren't going to fine teams for moving around times on match day as long as both teams agree. The fine will come into play really only when one team pisses off the other one which again rarely happens. |
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 15, 2020 9:05:46 GMT -5
Are you sure about the leeway on makeups? I read the following: NPL and SCCL will now fine teams $250 per incident, for games that need to be rescheduled for reasons other than inclement weather. If your team is charged a re-schedule fee, the amount will be divided equally among all rostered players, regardless of individual participation and is considered an additional expense (not included in the participation fees). That is no different really than what GA soccer rules really read either. There are almost no reschedules except for rain-outs anyway at least as far as matchdays go. Now there are plenty of times where games might need to be moved around to a different time etc... That happened all the time last season in SCCL-P and probably SCCL-C as well. At the beginning of the week our team would be playing at 10am then it gets moved to 1pm instead due to a conflict with one of the coaches coaching another game. They aren't going to fine teams for moving around times on match day as long as both teams agree. The fine will come into play really only when one team pisses off the other one which again rarely happens. I hope you are not saying that if both teams agree to reschedule their game for another date SCCL-P will charge them $250 for it. Blame GA Soccer for a lot of things but this is not one of them. Never heard teams charged to reschedule for a date that both sides had agreed to. If you care to share specifics to the opposite, please do. |
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