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Post by USoCcer on Jun 15, 2020 9:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Jun 15, 2020 10:00:36 GMT -5
The last version published of that projected schedule was approximately a month ago. There may not be another updated version of it published until the second week in July.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 15, 2020 10:49:45 GMT -5
So NCFC is putting their 2nd teams in NL Piedmont and ECRL Carolinas.
At least they get more than 9-10 games. Thats probably my largest disappointment with SCCL changes. Minimum 12 games should be the baseline.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 15, 2020 11:26:11 GMT -5
So NCFC is putting their 2nd teams in NL Piedmont and ECRL Carolinas. At least they get more than 9-10 games. Thats probably my largest disappointment with SCCL changes. Minimum 12 games should be the baseline. NCFC will have two ECNL teams so at best that is their third team. We were just in NC and soccer friends there said NCFC would have two ECNL teams and two ECRL teams. I am not sure if that is accurate or what they were told. Also Wake FC is in GA so not sure about playing in both for them as they have both an 05 and 07 team in Piedmont though they doubled up with NL and NPL in the past so who knows. CSA South is also in ECRL and not sure about doubling up there either. As an aside I had heard that Georgia Rush 04 had lost a couple of top players. I am not sure how that will affect them. Overall Piedmont does appear to be getting watered down. |
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Post by interestedspectator on Jun 15, 2020 11:43:22 GMT -5
So NCFC is putting their 2nd teams in NL Piedmont and ECRL Carolinas. At least they get more than 9-10 games. Thats probably my largest disappointment with SCCL changes. Minimum 12 games should be the baseline. NCFC will have two ECNL teams so at best that is their third team. We were just in NC and soccer friends there said NCFC would have two ECNL teams and two ECRL teams. I am not sure if that is accurate or what they were told. Also Wake FC is in GA so not sure about playing in both for them as they have both an 05 and 07 team in Piedmont though they doubled up with NL and NPL in the past so who knows. CSA South is also in ECRL and not sure about doubling up there either. As an aside I had heard that Georgia Rush 04 had lost a couple of top players. I am not sure how that will affect them. Overall Piedmont does appear to be getting watered down. Rush lost their whole team. |
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Post by coffee on Jun 15, 2020 12:07:18 GMT -5
...Also Wake FC is in GA so not sure about playing in both for them as they have both an 05 and 07 team in Piedmont though they doubled up with NL and NPL in the past so who knows... Wake is still in the NPL as well. NPL SAPL |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 15, 2020 12:08:25 GMT -5
So NCFC is putting their 2nd teams in NL Piedmont and ECRL Carolinas. At least they get more than 9-10 games. Thats probably my largest disappointment with SCCL changes. Minimum 12 games should be the baseline. Has it been stated somewhere SCCL is only planning 9-10 games or is this speculation? With 12 clubs in the SCCL-C I guess I would have expected an 11 game season. |
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Post by lsagoalie on Jun 15, 2020 12:10:00 GMT -5
Those lists aren’t very accurate and will change by games in August. For example in the u16 girls bracket wake FC 05 Blue is listed but on the wake website that exact team will be playing in the new GAL. Wake FC club will lose that spot as it is a team specific spot not a club spot, wake doesn’t get to pull up other players to fill that spot as you need roster continuity. That spot will become an open slot.
Same thing happened last year, spots change as clubs change leagues and have to give back spots
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 15, 2020 12:46:51 GMT -5
That the NCFC teams in NL are listed as "Elite" (which is also the name of a team in ECRL). CISC likely has North and South in ECRL, with combined top team in ECNL, and a couple of their 2nd teams playing in both NL/ECRL. I'd be surprised if NCFC gets 2 ECNL spots.
I think it unlikely Wake FC's top team participates in NL, NPL AND GA.
Regarding ECNL, tangentally...IMO Mid-Atlantic should probably split up a bit. There are now 6 clubs/teams in NC and 5 in VA if the map is still correct. With SC its 13 clubs/teams. Moving SC to be bundled with GA/AL (and maybe later TN). Florida should become its own league like they did in ECRL (or at least its own division like on the boys side). As for SCCL...on the boys side at U12 its 12 clubs, all other age groups for both sexes there are only 11 clubs. AU is misleading on the SCCL website since they only participate in 1 of the 14 club brackets. Frankly I'm surprised AU didn't do away with the U12 teams.
edit: Wait, what happened to Chattanooga Red Wolves in SAPL?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 15, 2020 13:24:04 GMT -5
That the NCFC teams in NL are listed as "Elite" (which is also the name of a team in ECRL). CISC likely has North and South in ECRL, with combined top team in ECNL, and a couple of their 2nd teams playing in both NL/ECRL. I'd be surprised if NCFC gets 2 ECNL spots.
I think it unlikely Wake FC's top team participates in NL, NPL AND GA.
Regarding ECNL, tangentally...IMO Mid-Atlantic should probably split up a bit. There are now 6 clubs/teams in NC and 5 in VA if the map is still correct. With SC its 13 clubs/teams. Moving SC to be bundled with GA/AL (and maybe later TN). Florida should become its own league like they did in ECRL (or at least its own division like on the boys side). As for SCCL...on the boys side at U12 its 12 clubs, all other age groups for both sexes there are only 11 clubs. AU is misleading on the SCCL website since they only participate in 1 of the 14 club brackets. Frankly I'm surprised AU didn't do away with the U12 teams.
edit: Wait, what happened to Chattanooga Red Wolves in SAPL?
NCFC had DA and ECNL last year. I bet they have two this year. Remember NC Courage IS NCFC. The club is huge. Wake is not in NPL anymore. They gave that spot to Wake North. They have a North location. CISC has 3 main locations. It was the mergers of Carolina Rapids, Lake Norman (now CISC North who will have ECRL) and Discoveries (now CISC South who will have ECRL). The ECNL team is mainly former Carolina Rapids players with a few of the north and south branch players sprinkled in from what we were told by people on that team. They also said that things would have been more mixed up this year had tryouts actually taken place because there were a lot of Charlotte kids that went to CSA for DA that now would prefer to go to an ECNL team that was closer and would have gone back to CISC ECNL if given the choice. I am not sure many teams will do both ECRL and Piedmont. That seems a bit too congested. |
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Post by coffee on Jun 15, 2020 16:10:09 GMT -5
NCFC projected coach and team list. www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2710778Two ECNL teams, and one ECRL team per age/gender listed, No Piedmont teams listed. Strangely they have references to NPL but it’s not in the above list. |
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Post by lsagoalie on Jun 15, 2020 17:28:50 GMT -5
NCFC projected coach and team list. www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2710778Two ECNL teams, and one ECRL team per age/gender listed, No Piedmont teams listed. Strangely they have references to NPL but it’s not in the above list. correct ncfc won’t be in piedmont either. North Carolina top teams gutted, should allow simple path to southern regionals for Georgia teams |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 15, 2020 17:37:09 GMT -5
NCFC projected coach and team list. www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2710778Two ECNL teams, and one ECRL team per age/gender listed, No Piedmont teams listed. Strangely they have references to NPL but it’s not in the above list. Interesting. When I clicked on it I see two ECNL teams per age group and gender. One is listed as academy and the other just ECNL. The next category is Elite and premier and both are ECRL. So two ECNL and two ECRL teams per age group and gender. Agree no NL and I did not see NPL either (but on girls side they have not had NPL for at least the last 3 years so I wouldn't have expected NPL). Their 5th team is in the NCYSA "Premier" division which has been the top level that then has teams that play in Piedmont if they are at the top of that group. |
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 15, 2020 18:11:33 GMT -5
With SCCL-C and NL getting watered down, it seems nothing is ever stable in youth soccer:)
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Post by Keeper on Jun 15, 2020 19:17:03 GMT -5
With SCCL-C and NL getting watered down, it seems nothing is ever stable in youth soccer:) Funny how you think SCCL is watered down after you left. But in reality it probably got quite stronger. NL on the other hand did take quite the hit due to SCCL and ECRL. |
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 15, 2020 22:29:19 GMT -5
With SCCL-C and NL getting watered down, it seems nothing is ever stable in youth soccer:) Funny how you think SCCL is watered down after you left. But in reality it probably got quite stronger. NL on the other hand did take quite the hit due to SCCL and ECRL. Calm down little britches. Take a breath. Both NL and SCCL are getting watered down with all the alphabets. It's been said on this board for 2 years. Common sense says both are watered down with the additions of smaller clubs to BOTH leagues. |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 15, 2020 23:07:20 GMT -5
Funny how you think SCCL is watered down after you left. But in reality it probably got quite stronger. NL on the other hand did take quite the hit due to SCCL and ECRL. Calm down little britches. Take a breath. Both NL and SCCL are getting watered down with all the alphabets. It's been said on this board for 2 years. Common sense says both are watered down with the additions of smaller clubs to BOTH leagues. Haha yeah what lil mind you had you’ve obviously lost. Funny how you think Santos, Rush/Chiefs, & Ambush are small even though they’re all larger then Norcross where you were at. Only reason Norcross is still around is because Ufa have them SCCL. Just keep enjoying that grape kool-aid of yours. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jun 16, 2020 6:58:03 GMT -5
I would say the addition of Roswell, Ambush & Rush Union are a positive for SCCL. Losing CESA wasn't a big loss as they were not doing well on the girls side. Losing VHSC was a bigger loss, but it is more than made up for by the additions.
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 16, 2020 9:20:25 GMT -5
It's pretty obvious 2 grown men on here (I'm pretty sure one of them works for Norcross based on some things he let slip) are going to talk me no matter what I post on any thread. That's fine. But remember: I said BOTH leagues are getting watered down. And I included the NL which our girls are going to. So that's not taking a shot at SCCL. We'd still be at Norcross had Jason Smith not fired our coach during a CV19 pandemic when tryouts couldn't be held. And yes he was fired from Norcross. ODP logo boy is too inside with some of the things he's said to not be who I think he is.
And you don't have to believe me, but there are a few people on this message board who have asked me through PM about other clubs because they were thinking about trying out at those clubs we used to be at and I told them it would be a great move for them. One was the AFU team we left. I highly recommended Hugo to them over there, and told them about the great families over there.
So you two children can follow me around and trash me all you want, but our families all voted on their own , and now that we know we have 2 nights a week practice in Norcross and 1 night a week at All-In under contract, it made sense for some of the kids who were on the fence.
We don't have a GK because after our GK moved to California, the GK coming to us was coming based on Claude but when Jason fired him, they of course were put in a bad spot with so much change for his daughter. They found a great opportunity for the GK daughter much closer to home in a high league and chose that over us---a decision I don't fault them for.
We now have 1 player deciding now that Norcross is the location 2 of the 3 nights. if she decides to stay with the team, that leaves one field position available on our roster.
So, to the guy who said "7 are staying or leaning to stay" , sorry.
In the beginning, 100% were staying for Claude. Then the firing at a bad time. That shock of curse put it at 50-50 with our team. Then people talked back and forth.
That's pretty normal.
ODP logo boy needs to get out of his feelings and get on with his life.
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Post by golden26 on Jun 16, 2020 10:55:54 GMT -5
It's pretty obvious 2 grown men on here (I'm pretty sure one of them works for Norcross based on some things he let slip) are going to talk me no matter what I post on any thread. That's fine. But remember: I said BOTH leagues are getting watered down. And I included the NL which our girls are going to. So that's not taking a shot at SCCL. We'd still be at Norcross had Jason Smith not fired our coach during a CV19 pandemic when tryouts couldn't be held. And yes he was fired from Norcross. ODP logo boy is too inside with some of the things he's said to not be who I think he is. And you don't have to believe me, but there are a few people on this message board who have asked me through PM about other clubs because they were thinking about trying out at those clubs we used to be at and I told them it would be a great move for them. One was the AFU team we left. I highly recommended Hugo to them over there, and told them about the great families over there. So you two children can follow me around and trash me all you want, but our families all voted on their own , and now that we know we have 2 nights a week practice in Norcross and 1 night a week at All-In under contract, it made sense for some of the kids who were on the fence. We don't have a GK because after our GK moved to California, the GK coming to us was coming based on Claude but when Jason fired him, they of course were put in a bad spot with so much change for his daughter. They found a great opportunity for the GK daughter much closer to home in a high league and chose that over us---a decision I don't fault them for. We now have 1 player deciding now that Norcross is the location 2 of the 3 nights. if she decides to stay with the team, that leaves one field position available on our roster. So, to the guy who said "7 are staying or leaning to stay" , sorry. In the beginning, 100% were staying for Claude. Then the firing at a bad time. That shock of curse put it at 50-50 with our team. Then people talked back and forth. That's pretty normal. ODP logo boy needs to get out of his feelings and get on with his life. Call them out! Name and shame! If coaches or employees of clubs are using this platform to either stifle, misinform or quieten then they should be accused and have it made public so that their integrity is made known! |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 16, 2020 12:52:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect JJK311 to work at Norcross, I think they said they have 2-3 kids in youth soccer at 2 clubs. I'd expect all their kids at Norcross if so (unless one is ECNL). But then I really have no idea.
Up to now Roswell >>> Norcross. Ambush and Rush were basically on par with Norcross as far as I could tell. With the losses of 2 girls teams, I'd say those clubs are in better shape (on the girls side) than Norcross.
The vitriol is definitely worth some popcorn.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 16, 2020 13:14:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect JJK311 to work at Norcross, I think they said they have 2-3 kids in youth soccer at 2 clubs. I'd expect all their kids at Norcross if so (unless one is ECNL). But then I really have no idea. Up to now Roswell >>> Norcross. Ambush and Rush were basically on par with Norcross as far as I could tell. With the losses of 2 girls teams, I'd say those clubs are in better shape (on the girls side) than Norcross. The vitriol is definitely worth some popcorn. Thanks for the new nickname! And yes I have no affiliation with Norcross or UFA. I do have a lot of friends and colleagues at both though. The honeybun can whine all he wants but he better watch out about slandering Jason’s name and this nonsense that Claude was “fired” even though he still works for Ufa. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 16, 2020 13:22:54 GMT -5
I don't get the insistence that Claudin was fired either, even if made to move to Forsyth by the club admin, he's slated to coach an NPL team, which I'm sure the club considers higher than SCCL.
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Post by lsagoalie on Jun 16, 2020 13:55:31 GMT -5
I must have missed another thread? Where is the UFA norcross team that the honeybadger is associated with going?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 16, 2020 14:14:30 GMT -5
To All-In FC. And apparenly they're getting 2 NL Piedmont spots for the 05 and 03 teams the coach took with him, sight unseen.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 16, 2020 14:53:57 GMT -5
I must have missed another thread? Where is the UFA norcross team that the honeybadger is associated with going? Yeah there was a coup at Norcross over staffing issues and Sergio Magana took some of his 03s and some of his 05s to All In FC Sugar Hill to supposedly play NL. So good luck playing them in season! |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 16, 2020 15:10:38 GMT -5
So not questioning if that is the case but, why would Allin be given a piedmont spot? Their teams haven’t earned a spot and the UFA norcross team obviously had not qualified for a piedmont spot?
If that’s the case, very shady happenings at Georgia soccer and shows how desperate of a situation Georgia Soccer is in if allin futbol is in NL, geez.
All in futbol is one step above the ymca
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Post by lsagoalie on Jun 16, 2020 15:11:59 GMT -5
Well, it is fun to stay at the YMCA, it’s fun to stay at YMCA A!
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 16, 2020 15:17:06 GMT -5
So not questioning if that is the case but, why would Allin be given a piedmont spot? Their teams haven’t earned a spot and the UFA norcross team obviously had not qualified for a piedmont spot? If that’s the case, very shady happenings at Georgia soccer and shows how desperate of a situation Georgia Soccer is in if allin futbol is in NL, geez. All in futbol is one step above the ymca Believe the entire 03 team followed him there. They won a nat'l title summer of 2019. Very good team that also had a very good fall 2019 season. I would imagine that they got a spot that way. He's coached that team for 2+ years or more I believe, so there was some loyalty to him after all they've done together. I know the entire 05 team did not follow him - he had not been their coach before, so that was a little shakier to get them all to go. Believe most of the team went with him, as those girls really weren't left with much of a choice once it was obvious they didn't have enough girls to stay at UFA and going to another club looking for a spot likely meant they'd end up on a lower team since most spots on teams at their level didn't have open spots. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 16, 2020 15:26:29 GMT -5
Is UFA Norcross still fielding an 05G SCCL team?
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