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Post by Keeper on Jun 16, 2020 15:31:52 GMT -5
So not questioning if that is the case but, why would Allin be given a piedmont spot? Their teams haven’t earned a spot and the UFA norcross team obviously had not qualified for a piedmont spot? If that’s the case, very shady happenings at Georgia soccer and shows how desperate of a situation Georgia Soccer is in if allin futbol is in NL, geez. All in futbol is one step above the ymca
As one of the teams that is going to lose that NL spot I would be pissed to lose it to a team that didn't even participate in GA/USYS.
For the 05s theres only one GA Open slot so that knocks out North GA Academy (Dahlonega/UNG) or Effingham United who are now going to be stuck traveling to who knows where playing the top of Athena B and Athens & Savannah United who are the only nonSCCL clubs left.
For the 03s that means possibly a Sav United team has to drop back into Athena A play, and that a RYSA or Rapids FC team gets knocked out.
Wonder if GA Soccer is willing to piss off some of these smaller clubs to help Mackain and All In who hasn't had the best reputation with them.
If this didn't involve kids I would love to see karma say nope you will play Athena A. haha
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 16, 2020 15:35:04 GMT -5
Is UFA Norcross still fielding an 05G SCCL team? No. |
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Post by lsagoalie on Jun 16, 2020 16:48:57 GMT -5
So not questioning if that is the case but, why would Allin be given a piedmont spot? Their teams haven’t earned a spot and the UFA norcross team obviously had not qualified for a piedmont spot? If that’s the case, very shady happenings at Georgia soccer and shows how desperate of a situation Georgia Soccer is in if allin futbol is in NL, geez. All in futbol is one step above the ymca
As one of the teams that is going to lose that NL spot I would be pissed to lose it to a team that didn't even participate in GA/USYS.
For the 05s theres only one GA Open slot so that knocks out North GA Academy (Dahlonega/UNG) or Effingham United who are now going to be stuck traveling to who knows where playing the top of Athena B and Athens & Savannah United who are the only nonSCCL clubs left.
For the 03s that means possibly a Sav United team has to drop back into Athena A play, and that a RYSA or Rapids FC team gets knocked out.
Wonder if GA Soccer is willing to piss off some of these smaller clubs to help Mackain and All In who hasn't had the best reputation with them.
If this didn't involve kids I would love to see karma say nope you will play Athena A. haha
Totally agree, at the 05 it should be given to the team who finished second in Athena A. I believe honey badger as he knows the deal but totally discredits the notion of pro/rel to give to a team that wasn’t in the feeder league. The 05 allin team will likely be decent if they bring the old AFU girls with them to allin but that doesn’t make it right. |
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Post by jkdub1 on Jun 16, 2020 21:28:33 GMT -5
So not questioning if that is the case but, why would Allin be given a piedmont spot? Their teams haven’t earned a spot and the UFA norcross team obviously had not qualified for a piedmont spot? If that’s the case, very shady happenings at Georgia soccer and shows how desperate of a situation Georgia Soccer is in if allin futbol is in NL, geez. All in futbol is one step above the ymca Believe the entire 03 team followed him there. They won a nat'l title summer of 2019. Very good team that also had a very good fall 2019 season. I would imagine that they got a spot that way. He's coached that team for 2+ years or more I believe, so there was some loyalty to him after all they've done together. I know the entire 05 team did not follow him - he had not been their coach before, so that was a little shakier to get them all to go. Believe most of the team went with him, as those girls really weren't left with much of a choice once it was obvious they didn't have enough girls to stay at UFA and going to another club looking for a spot likely meant they'd end up on a lower team since most spots on teams at their level didn't have open spots. This is not something I have considered or run into before.. In order to re-roster a team in Piedmont, you have to have at least 9 players from the previous season still on the team BUT does that team still have to be at the same club? Very very interesting to see how this plays out. |
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Post by broadwayboogiewoogie on Jun 16, 2020 21:44:28 GMT -5
Is UFA Norcross still fielding an 05G SCCL team? No. So will UFA move what would have been their SCCL-P1 team out of Forsyth into SCCL-Club then? And of course the teams below that up a notch too. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 16, 2020 22:51:51 GMT -5
So will UFA move what would have been their SCCL-P1 team out of Forsyth into SCCL-Club then? And of course the teams below that up a notch too. Possibly. I haven't heard what they plan to do but that seems likely. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 17, 2020 6:25:56 GMT -5
It's pretty obvious 2 grown men on here (I'm pretty sure one of them works for Norcross based on some things he let slip) are going to talk me no matter what I post on any thread. That's fine. But remember: I said BOTH leagues are getting watered down. And I included the NL which our girls are going to. So that's not taking a shot at SCCL. We'd still be at Norcross had Jason Smith not fired our coach during a CV19 pandemic when tryouts couldn't be held. And yes he was fired from Norcross. ODP logo boy is too inside with some of the things he's said to not be who I think he is. And you don't have to believe me, but there are a few people on this message board who have asked me through PM about other clubs because they were thinking about trying out at those clubs we used to be at and I told them it would be a great move for them. One was the AFU team we left. I highly recommended Hugo to them over there, and told them about the great families over there. So you two children can follow me around and trash me all you want, but our families all voted on their own , and now that we know we have 2 nights a week practice in Norcross and 1 night a week at All-In under contract, it made sense for some of the kids who were on the fence. We don't have a GK because after our GK moved to California, the GK coming to us was coming based on Claude but when Jason fired him, they of course were put in a bad spot with so much change for his daughter. They found a great opportunity for the GK daughter much closer to home in a high league and chose that over us---a decision I don't fault them for. We now have 1 player deciding now that Norcross is the location 2 of the 3 nights. if she decides to stay with the team, that leaves one field position available on our roster. So, to the guy who said "7 are staying or leaning to stay" , sorry. In the beginning, 100% were staying for Claude. Then the firing at a bad time. That shock of curse put it at 50-50 with our team. Then people talked back and forth. That's pretty normal. ODP logo boy needs to get out of his feelings and get on with his life. I would be careful about stating "facts" just because you don't like what you hear. I actually happen to know who inside info is or odp logo boy as you call him, and he is not a DOC and also not even with a kid at UFA Norcross. Btw, a lot of people here know who you are, simply because your old avatar was your daughter's picture |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 17, 2020 7:46:59 GMT -5
Believe the entire 03 team followed him there. They won a nat'l title summer of 2019. Very good team that also had a very good fall 2019 season. I would imagine that they got a spot that way. He's coached that team for 2+ years or more I believe, so there was some loyalty to him after all they've done together. I know the entire 05 team did not follow him - he had not been their coach before, so that was a little shakier to get them all to go. Believe most of the team went with him, as those girls really weren't left with much of a choice once it was obvious they didn't have enough girls to stay at UFA and going to another club looking for a spot likely meant they'd end up on a lower team since most spots on teams at their level didn't have open spots. This is not something I have considered or run into before.. In order to re-roster a team in Piedmont, you have to have at least 9 players from the previous season still on the team BUT does that team still have to be at the same club? Very very interesting to see how this plays out. You can take those 9 players and take the piedmont spot to a new club if you show that the previous club is abandoning the option for piedmont But the UFA norcross team doesn’t have that requirement since the previous year those girls were in SCCL |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 17, 2020 11:02:46 GMT -5
This is not something I have considered or run into before.. In order to re-roster a team in Piedmont, you have to have at least 9 players from the previous season still on the team BUT does that team still have to be at the same club? Very very interesting to see how this plays out. You can take those 9 players and take the piedmont spot to a new club if you show that the previous club is abandoning the option for piedmont But the UFA norcross team doesn’t have that requirement since the previous year those girls were in SCCL I believe the language includes players of equal caliber. Given the AFU girls were in it 2 years ago and they have an ECNL and a DA player supposedly I would think that would qualify. |
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Post by toddga675 on Jun 17, 2020 11:30:09 GMT -5
So not questioning if that is the case but, why would Allin be given a piedmont spot? Their teams haven’t earned a spot and the UFA norcross team obviously had not qualified for a piedmont spot? If that’s the case, very shady happenings at Georgia soccer and shows how desperate of a situation Georgia Soccer is in if allin futbol is in NL, geez. All in futbol is one step above the ymca Believe the entire 03 team followed him there. They won a nat'l title summer of 2019. Very good team that also had a very good fall 2019 season. I would imagine that they got a spot that way. He's coached that team for 2+ years or more I believe, so there was some loyalty to him after all they've done together. I know the entire 05 team did not follow him - he had not been their coach before, so that was a little shakier to get them all to go. Believe most of the team went with him, as those girls really weren't left with much of a choice once it was obvious they didn't have enough girls to stay at UFA and going to another club looking for a spot likely meant they'd end up on a lower team since most spots on teams at their level didn't have open spots. If this is true then it that creates some very interesting possibilities. Can other SCCL teams simply apply and move over to NL? Is there a requirement on the level of SCCL your team is in and where you finished in the division? |
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Post by baller84 on Jun 17, 2020 11:47:06 GMT -5
Believe the entire 03 team followed him there. They won a nat'l title summer of 2019. Very good team that also had a very good fall 2019 season. I would imagine that they got a spot that way. He's coached that team for 2+ years or more I believe, so there was some loyalty to him after all they've done together. I know the entire 05 team did not follow him - he had not been their coach before, so that was a little shakier to get them all to go. Believe most of the team went with him, as those girls really weren't left with much of a choice once it was obvious they didn't have enough girls to stay at UFA and going to another club looking for a spot likely meant they'd end up on a lower team since most spots on teams at their level didn't have open spots. If this is true then it that creates some very interesting possibilities. Can other SCCL teams simply apply and move over to NL? Is there a requirement on the level of SCCL your team is in and where you finished in the division? When SCCL started most those teams were in NL and left for a better situation. What has changed? |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 17, 2020 11:52:01 GMT -5
So will UFA move what would have been their SCCL-P1 team out of Forsyth into SCCL-Club then? And of course the teams below that up a notch too. Possibly. I haven't heard what they plan to do but that seems likely. I got confirmation that the UFA Forsyth 05G SCCL-P team is moving up to take their place. |
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Post by toddga675 on Jun 17, 2020 11:56:08 GMT -5
If this is true then it that creates some very interesting possibilities. Can other SCCL teams simply apply and move over to NL? Is there a requirement on the level of SCCL your team is in and where you finished in the division? When SCCL started most those teams were in NL and left for a better situation. What has changed? I suspect that it's easier to get positive recruiting results as a NL team vs. SCCL team. Outside of the local area I most college coaches most likely find it easier to quantitate like for like level of NL player vs. SCCL player. ECNL is a known quantity for college coaches but comparatively SCCL and US Club's NPL may not have the same level of knowledge or acceptance of quality by most college coaches. The UFA team that jumped to Allin for NL might be looking to benefit from an assumption of advantages for the players trying to be recruited for college play. If SCCL teams can move or move back to NL that creates a very interesting opportunity for those teams and players. NL's new showcase series sound like better potential opportunity for playing in front of more college coaches. |
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Post by baller84 on Jun 17, 2020 12:16:41 GMT -5
Possibly. I haven't heard what they plan to do but that seems likely. I got confirmation that the UFA Forsyth 05G SCCL-P team is moving up to take their place. SCCL-C? What division did that team play last fall? |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 17, 2020 12:33:41 GMT -5
I got confirmation that the UFA Forsyth 05G SCCL-P team is moving up to take their place. SCCL-C? What division did that team play last fall? Sorry, thought that was clear from what I said. The UFA Forsyth 05G SCCL-P team from last year is taking the SCCL-C spot that UFA Norcross vacated when they left for All-In. |
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Post by baller84 on Jun 17, 2020 14:01:30 GMT -5
SCCL-C? What division did that team play last fall? Sorry, thought that was clear from what I said. The UFA Forsyth 05G SCCL-P team from last year is taking the SCCL-C spot that UFA Norcross vacated when they left for All-In. Thanks but if that's the same team they were around 500 last year in SCCL-P. That's quite a jump. |
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Post by coffee on Jun 17, 2020 14:31:36 GMT -5
Sorry, thought that was clear from what I said. The UFA Forsyth 05G SCCL-P team from last year is taking the SCCL-C spot that UFA Norcross vacated when they left for All-In. Thanks but if that's the same team they were around 500 last year in SCCL-P. That's quite a jump. Same situation as all ages of Tophat‘s current SCCL-C teams; they were SCCL-P last year. |
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 17, 2020 15:07:07 GMT -5
I think SCCL-C//NL//SAPL are like any league-there will be good teams and bad teams in both. But I agree with what the person said above. College showcases are better in NL than they are for SCCL-C teams as of right now. The top few NL teams from Piedmont Conference (GA/SC/NC), Sunshine Conference (Fla), Mid-South Conference (not sure which states are in this one--maybe Alabama, Miss,La., Arkansas??) and Frontier Conference (Texas) will meet somewhere after the season on the Gulf Coast for a College Showcase where they will split the 12-15 or so teams up into some type of separate brackets so that the same level of teams play each other. I'm not sure if it's 1-2 teams per conference but I think the Piedmont top 1- 2 meet the Sunshine top 1-2 somewhere central to both locations in a playoff to represent this Region's winner that advances to Kansas next summer. I may be wrong on particulars but that is my understanding. That old UFA 03 team is a machine and will do very well in NL. I have no clue how our 05 team will do. We could finish 1st-10th for all I know. I see that Wake is back and they were undefeated last year so I assume that is a great team. LSA and Inter-Atl 05 teams are strong in NL. I'm not familiar with the Columbus, ga. 05 team. Not sure about the SC teams? SCCL has very strong teams too and of course those teams will do well in Showcases too. In SCCL 05, I'll put GSA and Roswell and CF up against any teams. Those are strong teams. Roswell is a machine in the 05's. Plenty of good teams in both leagues. But IMHO NL has a clearer path that makes sense to me to win a conference title, then a region title, then a national title. I'm still confused, for example, who the 03 Norcross team had to play against in Nationals because there isn't an "SCCL" in different regions. ( NECCL, MWCCL, etc). Were they playing NPL teams? ECRL teams? PS: But it was nice to see the LSAGOALIE person say she/he thinks our 05 team will be "decent" in NL this year:)  I hope so. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 17, 2020 16:14:05 GMT -5
Yes, clearly NL has a HUGE advantage over SCCL for college showcases and eyeballs. Remember SCCL was a league created for convenience, it was never made to get college scouts to check out second/third team players at a club.
Also honey badger, I think your team if given a spot should make the top half to retain a spot moving forward. South Carolina teams have traditionally finished bottom bracket. Wake FC 05 lists on their own website that they will be playing GAL, they don’t mention on their website Piedmont NL at all so I would expect them to not be there when games start in August.
Badger, would be interesting to know how and why Georgia soccer would give your group a spot though since it would clearly jump over teams that were already in line for a spot? Again, I believe you when you state they will be given the spot but it definitely seems shady if it does happen and other teams are bypassed
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 17, 2020 17:32:15 GMT -5
Yes, clearly NL has a HUGE advantage over SCCL for college showcases and eyeballs. Remember SCCL was a league created for convenience, it was never made to get college scouts to check out second/third team players at a club. Also honey badger, I think your team if given a spot should make the top half to retain a spot moving forward. South Carolina teams have traditionally finished bottom bracket. Wake FC 05 lists on their own website that they will be playing GAL, they don’t mention on their website Piedmont NL at all so I would expect them to not be there when games start in August. Badger, would be interesting to know how and why Georgia soccer would give your group a spot though since it would clearly jump over teams that were already in line for a spot? Again, I believe you when you state they will be given the spot but it definitely seems shady if it does happen and other teams are bypassed I honestly, truly don't know why we were given it. I only know our team was told and of course, at this time of year and tno ryouts, it was pretty stressful for all the parents. Decisions had to be made sooner rather than later. Some wanted to stay and some thought it would be better to go. As it went back and forth, it slowly leaned more to going since we have a better chance of keeping one coach for the last 3-4 years since he will be the DOC vs staying at the other club because you never know if a DOC stays or leaves. In my opinion from my observations and talking 15 came with us for a combination of 3 things: 1. We feel SM is a better coach than who we would have had at the old club (though she is very good and will become really really really good) 2. More chance at 3-4 year stability (remember, the AFU bunch went through 5 coaches in a 24 month period and was drained from that type of instability) with our new coach being the DOC. 3. Better college showcases. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jun 17, 2020 17:56:17 GMT -5
If this is true then it that creates some very interesting possibilities. Can other SCCL teams simply apply and move over to NL? Is there a requirement on the level of SCCL your team is in and where you finished in the division? When SCCL started most those teams were in NL and left for a better situation. What has changed? |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jun 17, 2020 17:57:54 GMT -5
This is patently false. Most teams were Athena A Or B with a couple of teams at the bottom of SRPL about to be relegated.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 17, 2020 20:37:19 GMT -5
This is patently false. Most teams were Athena A Or B with a couple of teams at the bottom of SRPL about to be relegated. totally agree these were primarily Athena A. Rpl was the league just before and there were only 3 Georgia representative. So primarily Athena A with 2-3 rpl lower teams in an age group |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 18, 2020 0:42:57 GMT -5
Do you mean 2-3 across all age groups or 2-3 in each age group? Because big-6 clubs had on average 2.5 teams per age group in SRPL on the girls side (out of 4 GA teams). Maybe those teams weren't eating it up in SRPL, but they outweighed the non-big-6 by LARGE margin. And once those clubs pulled out and smaller clubs got more spots, they were doing better.
So I'm curious if the NL Piedmont got weaker than SRPL was the year before...or the smaller clubs got a better recruiting angle when the big 5 left?
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Post by guest on Jun 18, 2020 7:00:46 GMT -5
This is patently false. Most teams were Athena A Or B with a couple of teams at the bottom of SRPL about to be relegated. totally agree these were primarily Athena A. Rpl was the league just before and there were only 3 Georgia representative. So primarily Athena A with 2-3 rpl lower teams We were on a R3PL team from a big club when the switch happened. Concorde, GSA North and South, SSA all had teams in the 2nd division of R3PL that made the switch to SCCL the next season. There were zero non- big 5 teams in R3PL at the time. So the above statement about SCCL teams primarily coming from NL (R3PL) was, in fact, patently TRUE. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 18, 2020 7:42:09 GMT -5
totally agree these were primarily Athena A. Rpl was the league just before and there were only 3 Georgia representative. So primarily Athena A with 2-3 rpl lower teams We were on a R3PL team from a big club when the switch happened. Concorde, GSA North and South, SSA all had teams in the 2nd division of R3PL that made the switch to SCCL the next season. There were zero non- big 5 teams in R3PL at the time. So the above statement about SCCL teams primarily coming from NL (R3PL) was, in fact, patently TRUE. Possibly, but the majority of the SCCL teams were not RPL as there are more than 6 teams in SCCL per age bracket. So 3 rpl teams per age group filled with the remaining teams in each age bracket of SCCL are Athena A. So that would make SCCL, 60-75% Athena A |
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Post by toddga675 on Jun 18, 2020 7:51:09 GMT -5
totally agree these were primarily Athena A. Rpl was the league just before and there were only 3 Georgia representative. So primarily Athena A with 2-3 rpl lower teams We were on a R3PL team from a big club when the switch happened. Concorde, GSA North and South, SSA all had teams in the 2nd division of R3PL that made the switch to SCCL the next season. There were zero non- big 5 teams in R3PL at the time. So the above statement about SCCL teams primarily coming from NL (R3PL) was, in fact, patently TRUE. The good part is the original R3PL results are still on GotSoccer. After looking through it, I think creating SCCL was one of the most brilliant moves in the history of Georgia Soccer. Big 5 were facing massive relegation of 74% of their R3PL teams. Moving to SCCL allowed them to create a new top division. Rebrand and keep all of their teams in that top division while pulling in more of their non-top teams to join them. In the history of Georgia Soccer it has to rank as one of the most brilliant and clever moves ever made. Then convince the rest of the clubs in Georgia Soccer to join them in a league that they control. There is no denying that the management teams running the Big 5 are simply far more brilliant and farsighted that Georgia Soccer or the other Clubs. Big 5 teams that were in R3PL prior to the big move to SCCL: 13U Boys GSA 05B - moved to ECNL (NASA 05 - 2nd division relegated)14U Boys (GSA 04B - relegated from 1st division)15U Boys SSA 03B (UFA 03B - relegated)
(NTH 03B - 2nd division relegated)16U Boys UFA 02B CF 02B (CF Central 02B - relegated)
(NTH 02B - relegated) 17U Boys (GSA South 01B - relegated)
(CF Central 01B - relegated)
(UFA 01B Norcross - 2nd division)
(SSA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(NTH 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(UFA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
18U Boys UFA CF 13U Girls SSA 05G UFA 05G (NTH - relegated)14U Girls SSA 04G UFA 04G (GSA 04G - relegated)
(CF 04G - relegated)
15U Girls UFA Norcross 03G (UFA 03G - relegated)
(NTH 03G - relegated)16U Girls UFA 02G (NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(GSA South - relegated)
(SSA - relegated)17U Girls (UFA 01G - relegated)
(NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(SSA - 2nd division relegated)
(TH Navy - 2nd division relegated)
(GSA South - 2nd division relegated)
18U Girls (SSA - relegated)
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 18, 2020 9:51:59 GMT -5
We were on a R3PL team from a big club when the switch happened. Concorde, GSA North and South, SSA all had teams in the 2nd division of R3PL that made the switch to SCCL the next season. There were zero non- big 5 teams in R3PL at the time. So the above statement about SCCL teams primarily coming from NL (R3PL) was, in fact, patently TRUE. The good part is the original R3PL results are still on GotSoccer. After looking through it, I think creating SCCL was one of the most brilliant moves in the history of Georgia Soccer. Big 5 were facing massive relegation of 74% of their R3PL teams. Moving to SCCL allowed them to create a new top division. Rebrand and keep all of their teams in that top division while pulling in more of their non-top teams to join them. In the history of Georgia Soccer it has to rank as one of the most brilliant and clever moves ever made. Then convince the rest of the clubs in Georgia Soccer to join them in a league that they control. There is no denying that the management teams running the Big 5 are simply far more brilliant and farsighted that Georgia Soccer or the other Clubs. Big 5 teams that were in R3PL prior to the big move to SCCL: 13U Boys GSA 05B - moved to ECNL (NASA 05 - 2nd division relegated)14U Boys (GSA 04B - relegated from 1st division)15U Boys SSA 03B (UFA 03B - relegated)
(NTH 03B - 2nd division relegated)16U Boys UFA 02B CF 02B (CF Central 02B - relegated)
(NTH 02B - relegated) 17U Boys (GSA South 01B - relegated)
(CF Central 01B - relegated)
(UFA 01B Norcross - 2nd division)
(SSA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(NTH 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(UFA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
18U Boys UFA CF 13U Girls SSA 05G UFA 05G (NTH - relegated)14U Girls SSA 04G UFA 04G (GSA 04G - relegated)
(CF 04G - relegated)
15U Girls UFA Norcross 03G (UFA 03G - relegated)
(NTH 03G - relegated)16U Girls UFA 02G (NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(GSA South - relegated)
(SSA - relegated)17U Girls (UFA 01G - relegated)
(NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(SSA - 2nd division relegated)
(TH Navy - 2nd division relegated)
(GSA South - 2nd division relegated)
18U Girls (SSA - relegated)
(UFA Milton - relegated)
(UFA - relegated)
(UFA Norcross - relegated)Very perceptive! This was the biggest reason for them starting SCCL, except, was much better justified to point the finger at the undeniable incompetence of RPL to the parents, and the lack of leadership and support of Georgia Soccer to make a move like starting a new league this bold. They did not lie. They simply highlighted the part of the story that served their purpose. They knew what was coming at tryouts if they didn't do something, and they acted early and swiftly as a group. That's only one of several examples why they own the market. They also did an amazing job with the social media, always have. Truly brilliant. See my previous post on next moves: The big boys have it covered. ECRL would already be here if they had wanted to. Maybe next year -if they want-, or a better plan nobody else sees. One of those big clubs plans light years ahead of everyone else to stay ahead of everyone else, whether is club or league. Club or league, they lead. The other big boys ride with them to keep up, and their relative advantage over everyone else will continue. All the rest of the clubs can do is try to keep up with the big boys but they're at least one level below. This will continue until the great leader who never sleeps moves on. I'll call it for what it is. Follow Concorde in everything they've ever done since becoming Concorde Fire on and off the field. Their power and ability to control their market with just the necessary balance to make it work, has been impressive. |
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Post by coffee on Jun 18, 2020 10:13:11 GMT -5
The good part is the original R3PL results are still on GotSoccer. After looking through it, I think creating SCCL was one of the most brilliant moves in the history of Georgia Soccer. Big 5 were facing massive relegation of 74% of their R3PL teams. Moving to SCCL allowed them to create a new top division. Rebrand and keep all of their teams in that top division while pulling in more of their non-top teams to join them. In the history of Georgia Soccer it has to rank as one of the most brilliant and clever moves ever made. Then convince the rest of the clubs in Georgia Soccer to join them in a league that they control. There is no denying that the management teams running the Big 5 are simply far more brilliant and farsighted that Georgia Soccer or the other Clubs. Big 5 teams that were in R3PL prior to the big move to SCCL: 13U Boys GSA 05B - moved to ECNL (NASA 05 - 2nd division relegated)14U Boys (GSA 04B - relegated from 1st division)15U Boys SSA 03B (UFA 03B - relegated)
(NTH 03B - 2nd division relegated)16U Boys UFA 02B CF 02B (CF Central 02B - relegated)
(NTH 02B - relegated) 17U Boys (GSA South 01B - relegated)
(CF Central 01B - relegated)
(UFA 01B Norcross - 2nd division)
(SSA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(NTH 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(UFA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
18U Boys UFA CF 13U Girls SSA 05G UFA 05G (NTH - relegated)14U Girls SSA 04G UFA 04G (GSA 04G - relegated)
(CF 04G - relegated)
15U Girls UFA Norcross 03G (UFA 03G - relegated)
(NTH 03G - relegated)16U Girls UFA 02G (NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(GSA South - relegated)
(SSA - relegated)17U Girls (UFA 01G - relegated)
(NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(SSA - 2nd division relegated)
(TH Navy - 2nd division relegated)
(GSA South - 2nd division relegated)
18U Girls (SSA - relegated)
(UFA Milton - relegated)
(UFA - relegated)
(UFA Norcross - relegated)I thought I knew how promotion and relegation works. So you’re saying that in many instances, _far_ more than the usual two teams per table were being relegated? |
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Post by toddga675 on Jun 18, 2020 10:27:31 GMT -5
The good part is the original R3PL results are still on GotSoccer. After looking through it, I think creating SCCL was one of the most brilliant moves in the history of Georgia Soccer. Big 5 were facing massive relegation of 74% of their R3PL teams. Moving to SCCL allowed them to create a new top division. Rebrand and keep all of their teams in that top division while pulling in more of their non-top teams to join them. In the history of Georgia Soccer it has to rank as one of the most brilliant and clever moves ever made. Then convince the rest of the clubs in Georgia Soccer to join them in a league that they control. There is no denying that the management teams running the Big 5 are simply far more brilliant and farsighted that Georgia Soccer or the other Clubs. Big 5 teams that were in R3PL prior to the big move to SCCL: 13U Boys GSA 05B - moved to ECNL (NASA 05 - 2nd division relegated)14U Boys (GSA 04B - relegated from 1st division)15U Boys SSA 03B (UFA 03B - relegated)
(NTH 03B - 2nd division relegated)16U Boys UFA 02B CF 02B (CF Central 02B - relegated)
(NTH 02B - relegated) 17U Boys (GSA South 01B - relegated)
(CF Central 01B - relegated)
(UFA 01B Norcross - 2nd division)
(SSA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(NTH 01B - 2nd division relegated)
(UFA 01B - 2nd division relegated)
18U Boys UFA CF 13U Girls SSA 05G UFA 05G (NTH - relegated)14U Girls SSA 04G UFA 04G (GSA 04G - relegated)
(CF 04G - relegated)
15U Girls UFA Norcross 03G (UFA 03G - relegated)
(NTH 03G - relegated)16U Girls UFA 02G (NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(GSA South - relegated)
(SSA - relegated)17U Girls (UFA 01G - relegated)
(NTH - relegated)
(CF - relegated)
(GSA North - relegated)
(SSA - 2nd division relegated)
(TH Navy - 2nd division relegated)
(GSA South - 2nd division relegated)
18U Girls (SSA - relegated)
(UFA Milton - relegated)
(UFA - relegated)
(UFA Norcross - relegated)I thought I knew how promotion and relegation works. So you’re saying that in many instances, _far_ more than the usual two teams per table were being relegated? Boys - Must finish top six of top division. Must finish top two of second division. Girls - This one in the year before SCCL Founding was the real trick. R3PL was shrinking from two divisions to one division. The Big 5 had a lot of teams but most finished outside of the automatic zone for not getting relegated. Faced with two divisions becoming one division and they were facing serious fallout. |
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