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Post by ursu22 on Aug 4, 2020 11:20:59 GMT -5
Is it confirmed that Atlanta United is only putting their 04 (U17) and 06 (U15) teams in the new MLS league? Are their 08, 07, 05, and 02/03 teams definitely all playing ECNL? Can anyone confirm these ages are on the ECNL schedule? As it stands today, U17, U15 AU will be in the MLS league. MLS is extremely strict on player process for Covid, this could delay start of the league. |
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Post by jogabonito10 on Aug 4, 2020 12:11:24 GMT -5
How will AU field their teams per age group?
Will they stay true to the age per age group or will they do a combination of players?
As in, would they combine the top ‘08 players + lower ‘07 players to play in the ‘07 bracket // top ‘07 players + lower ‘06 players to play on ‘06 bracket.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 4, 2020 14:44:00 GMT -5
How will AU field their teams per age group? Will they stay true to the age per age group or will they do a combination of players? As in, would they combine the top ‘08 players + lower ‘07 players to play in the ‘07 bracket // top ‘07 players + lower ‘06 players to play on ‘06 bracket. Good question. For now, kids I'm sure will be in age group until sometime during season and go back to intermixing of players/ ages. This is the "thing" that Tony has done every season. Might even have (using your example) top 08 players playing with top 07 and so on. Seems to be the norm during the year. Top U16 playing with the U17's, some U17s playing USL (i.e. Wolff, Wiley, Nelson, etc) Of course, outside players coming in during the year. Seems to happen a lot at U16/U17 age group. |
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Post by localsoccernovice on Aug 4, 2020 23:01:45 GMT -5
Has anyone seen an ecnl complete schedule -- are the AU 15s and 17s on it? Just trying to figure out what the AU 15s and 17s will be doing this fall/spring -- Initial U15 schedule Has Atl United playing ECNL games. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 5, 2020 6:23:54 GMT -5
Has anyone seen an ecnl complete schedule -- are the AU 15s and 17s on it? Just trying to figure out what the AU 15s and 17s will be doing this fall/spring -- Initial U15 schedule Has Atl United playing ECNL games. That may be the true U14 team. I heard the U16 is playing U17 ECNL so AU may end up playing an age group up for ECNL. |
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Post by soccerdad76 on Aug 5, 2020 20:48:47 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 6, 2020 9:17:11 GMT -5
How will AU field their teams per age group? Will they stay true to the age per age group or will they do a combination of players? As in, would they combine the top ‘08 players + lower ‘07 players to play in the ‘07 bracket // top ‘07 players + lower ‘06 players to play on ‘06 bracket. Responses received from current AU families: Historically(I get that is only 4 years), AU has taken the model of watching and reviewing the lads play on the pitch within their respective age group. Around the showcase(old DA) in late October, early November, they start to push the 2-3 lads on each team that would get a better challenge by playing up. For some, it will be temporary, for others permanent. Additionally, should a need arise due to injury or truly lackluster play, a player from a lower aged team could make the jump sooner than the period I just described... Specific to this year with Covid, all players will train within the bubble of their age group. After the initial 4-6 weeks, re-evaluations might necessitate some movement... Some players will only play in one of the following leagues, MLS/GA-Cup, ECNL, Un-official Scrimmage league with other MLS clubs, while others will have full teams potentially play up and some individuals will fit all of the above... |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 6, 2020 11:15:51 GMT -5
How will AU field their teams per age group? Will they stay true to the age per age group or will they do a combination of players? As in, would they combine the top ‘08 players + lower ‘07 players to play in the ‘07 bracket // top ‘07 players + lower ‘06 players to play on ‘06 bracket. Responses received from current AU families: Historically(I get that is only 4 years), AU has taken the model of watching and reviewing the lads play on the pitch within their respective age group. Around the showcase(old DA) in late October, early November, they start to push the 2-3 lads on each team that would get a better challenge by playing up. For some, it will be temporary, for others permanent. Additionally, should a need arise due to injury or truly lackluster play, a player from a lower aged team could make the jump sooner than the period I just described... Specific to this year with Covid, all players will train within the bubble of their age group. After the initial 4-6 weeks, re-evaluations might necessitate some movement... Some players will only play in one of the following leagues, MLS/GA-Cup, ECNL, Un-official Scrimmage league with other MLS clubs, while others will have full teams potentially play up and some individuals will fit all of the above... Yea sounds right - thanks for sharing. my gut tells me that AU will be playing their u12s in u13 ecnl u13s in u14 ecnl u14s in u15 ecnl u15s in mls league u16s in u17 ecnl u17s in mls league u18s+ in ECNL and USL AU2s |
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Post by jogabonito10 on Aug 6, 2020 11:34:13 GMT -5
Responses received from current AU families: Historically(I get that is only 4 years), AU has taken the model of watching and reviewing the lads play on the pitch within their respective age group. Around the showcase(old DA) in late October, early November, they start to push the 2-3 lads on each team that would get a better challenge by playing up. For some, it will be temporary, for others permanent. Additionally, should a need arise due to injury or truly lackluster play, a player from a lower aged team could make the jump sooner than the period I just described... Specific to this year with Covid, all players will train within the bubble of their age group. After the initial 4-6 weeks, re-evaluations might necessitate some movement... Some players will only play in one of the following leagues, MLS/GA-Cup, ECNL, Un-official Scrimmage league with other MLS clubs, while others will have full teams potentially play up and some individuals will fit all of the above... Yea sounds right - thanks for sharing. my gut tells me that AU will be playing their u12s in u13 ecnl u13s in u14 ecnl u14s in u15 ecnl u15s in mls league u16s in u17 ecnl u17s in mls league u18s+ in ECNL and USL AU2s |
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Post by jogabonito10 on Aug 6, 2020 11:34:27 GMT -5
Yea sounds right - thanks for sharing. my gut tells me that AU will be playing their u12s in u13 ecnl u13s in u14 ecnl u14s in u15 ecnl u15s in mls league u16s in u17 ecnl u17s in mls league u18s+ in ECNL and USL AU2s Thanks! |
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Post by soccerdad76 on Aug 6, 2020 22:11:41 GMT -5
Responses received from current AU families: Historically(I get that is only 4 years), AU has taken the model of watching and reviewing the lads play on the pitch within their respective age group. Around the showcase(old DA) in late October, early November, they start to push the 2-3 lads on each team that would get a better challenge by playing up. For some, it will be temporary, for others permanent. Additionally, should a need arise due to injury or truly lackluster play, a player from a lower aged team could make the jump sooner than the period I just described... Specific to this year with Covid, all players will train within the bubble of their age group. After the initial 4-6 weeks, re-evaluations might necessitate some movement... Some players will only play in one of the following leagues, MLS/GA-Cup, ECNL, Un-official Scrimmage league with other MLS clubs, while others will have full teams potentially play up and some individuals will fit all of the above... Yea sounds right - thanks for sharing. my gut tells me that AU will be playing their u12s in u13 ecnl u13s in u14 ecnl u14s in u15 ecnl u15s in mls league u16s in u17 ecnl u17s in mls league u18s+ in ECNL and USL AU2s I imagine u12s and some u11s will play u12 SCCL like last year. Not crazy that many ages might push up a year, but many were playing their age in DA last year... now it’s just called ECNL instead. Still wonder why u13 and u17 are missing from the ECNL page |
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Post by soccerdad76 on Aug 12, 2020 22:43:20 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Aug 13, 2020 7:18:58 GMT -5
I think it’s a good thing they are playing up. It will make them have to bring their A game every week because they are playing older boys. Oftentimes the boys have off games but every match they play, the opponents have that match circled on their calendar. The fact that there are no teams at u13 and u17 for AU should be commended not ridiculed.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 13, 2020 7:26:46 GMT -5
Should be interesting for sure. I havent heard of what the status is regarding the U17 AU age group. They may add that age group to ECNL. Not sure.
It could be that the U17 group will play "friendlies" with other MLS clubs. I'm sure some will play up in u18/u19 ECNL as well.
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Post by cantgetright on Aug 13, 2020 7:40:24 GMT -5
If Bama is the first game, that will not be good. We just beat them pretty bad in a tournament this weekend. Maybe AU will field their U17's against them or at least they should.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Aug 13, 2020 7:47:00 GMT -5
My son’s team went 1-2 vs AU last year in SCCL. so we were looking forward to playing them again at u13. Not sure why they should be commended for avoiding us... not push-over games. 😜
Playing AU is good experience for our team, and now we won’t get it.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Aug 13, 2020 7:52:07 GMT -5
The notion they have entire teams of play-ups is wrong. Maybe there's more for u17 (since they're older, it would make sense), but at u13 - they may have 1 to 3 play-ups. The rest are age appropriate.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 13, 2020 8:54:37 GMT -5
I can see your point on individual play-ups but I see the pros/ cons of whole team play-ups, it allows for lots of intermixing of players. I'm not sure of what you mean by "wrong". AU doesnt typically play the whole team up unless they feel it will benefit the team.
A couple of years back the AU U16 group played up in a tournament. The U17 top bracket and won. This was mixed of U15/16/17 players. The top level U17 players played mostly in U19 or played high level U17 MLS teams.
As for U13 goes... These players are 12 years old. Lots can happen over 4 years when they become the U17 squad.
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Post by flix on Aug 13, 2020 8:57:05 GMT -5
So this is just about you. AU had three u12 teams last year with a lot of u11’s. You went 1-2 and AU is avoiding you? They played with all different kinds of combinations so you never truly played their best team. I’m sorry your bubble was burst.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 13, 2020 9:28:34 GMT -5
So this is just about you. AU had three u12 teams last year with a lot of u11’s. You went 1-2 and AU is avoiding you? They played with all different kinds of combinations so you never truly played their best team. I’m sorry your bubble was burst. @soccerdad76 did add an emoji, which makes me think the post was tongue-in-cheek and not meant to convey how you're reading it... In other news, I truly don't see AU playing the games at the end of this month. At least based on 3 families I've spoken to, who say they've been told they won't play till September. Not necessarily because of Covid, but more because AU didn't get back to the pitch/training till just this past week. I hear AU utilizes sports periodization, which is great, but I think anything less than 4 weeks risks injuries. Let me rephrase, risks more injuries. Unlike some or all of their potential opponents who have been practicing for well over a month already and had a tournament this past weekend and have a set of friendlies this upcoming weekend in Greer... p.s. Not sure if you all remember Kevin Kratz, I hear he is or may be roaming the sidelines of the Academy Teams now. Welcome back 👏👏👏 |
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Post by flix on Aug 13, 2020 9:46:55 GMT -5
Just friendly banter. I guess when you don’t use emojis things may appear a certain way but I am just talking trash. I can appreciate the fact that it’s actually a soccer topic.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Aug 13, 2020 13:17:28 GMT -5
So this is just about you. AU had three u12 teams last year with a lot of u11’s. You went 1-2 and AU is avoiding you? They played with all different kinds of combinations so you never truly played their best team. I’m sorry your bubble was burst. They are obviously not avoiding us, yes that was a joke. I am saying they do have some good competition in ECNL for their u13 team should they choose to enter the league at that age. As far as taking it personally, I am disappointed my son’s team won’t get to play them because they have been great competitive games, and we will now have two fewer games for the 2020-2021 season. Sorry I feel like u13 and u17 ECNL teams are getting the short end of the stick as it appears AU does not have to enter all ages groups. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 13, 2020 13:25:16 GMT -5
I wasnt sure if they would have a true U17 team in ECNL. We have always heard MLS league and direct MLS team "friendlies" Who knows. At Concorde we always liked playing against AU. My son got scouted from one of those games.  |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Aug 13, 2020 20:00:56 GMT -5
I can see your point on individual play-ups but I see the pros/ cons of whole team play-ups, it allows for lots of intermixing of players. I'm not sure of what you mean by "wrong". AU doesnt typically play the whole team up unless they feel it will benefit the team. A couple of years back the AU U16 group played up in a tournament. The U17 top bracket and won. This was mixed of U15/16/17 players. The top level U17 players played mostly in U19 or played high level U17 MLS teams. As for U13 goes... These players are 12 years old. Lots can happen over 4 years when they become the U17 squad. No judgement on if it's good or bad... IMO, it's good. I was only saying, from experience, only a few play up. It sounded like some commenters are assuming that entire age groups play up. |
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Post by soccerdad76 on Aug 19, 2020 19:40:08 GMT -5
Well looking at our u13 schedule on the ECNL app, and there’s a bit fat nothing for the fall and spring dates when the club plays against AU. Guessing u17 is the same. The title of this thread should be changed to “Atlanta United Joins ECNL in 4 out of 6 age groups.” 👎
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 19, 2020 19:56:12 GMT -5
AU has other age groups with a lot of TBDs also
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Post by socceristhebest on Aug 23, 2020 17:45:31 GMT -5
Word from a friend is Atlanta United 15s and 17s are confirmed for sure for ecnl. No idea the the truth though.
Wasn’t sure about 17s - I still don’t see them on a u17 schedule
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Post by flix on Aug 23, 2020 17:54:10 GMT -5
The u15’s are playing u16 and the u17’s are playing u18/19 is what I believe. So if you are playing u13 or u17, there is not an Atlanta United team playing in that age group. All the teams from u13 are playing an age group up.
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Post by thisonedude on Aug 23, 2020 18:16:35 GMT -5
The u15’s are playing u16 and the u17’s are playing u18/19 is what I believe. So if you are playing u13 or u17, there is not an Atlanta United team playing in that age group. All the teams from u13 are playing an age group up. Wouldn't that mean the U16s are play U17? |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 23, 2020 18:18:37 GMT -5
No clue whats going on. They may just play own age group. Havent heard anything official yet.
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