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Sept 12, 2020 19:43:49 GMT -5
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 12, 2020 19:43:49 GMT -5
19s AU 3 - SSA 3
SSA was up 3-1 til last 10 minutes.
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Sept 12, 2020 20:26:50 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 12, 2020 20:26:50 GMT -5
19s AU 3 - SSA 3 SSA was up 3-1 til last 10 minutes. Wow!! Whose coaching the 19s at AU these days? |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Sept 12, 2020 20:40:42 GMT -5
19s AU 3 - SSA 3 SSA was up 3-1 til last 10 minutes. Wow!! Whose coaching the 19s at AU these days? Keeper got red first 5 min. No backup keeper (he played the u17 game and can play more than 90min in a day) so no keeper backup. Field player in goal. |
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Sept 12, 2020 20:48:15 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 12, 2020 20:48:15 GMT -5
Ouch. Bad bench managment there.
Keepers should be allowed to play in 5 games a day.
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Sept 12, 2020 22:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by soccerdad76 on Sept 12, 2020 22:43:23 GMT -5
I have a feeling Atlanta united is gonna beat the living shizat out of most of the teams they play. Interesting to see how the local MLS Next teams compared to ECNL compete against AU. My money is on the ECNL teams being much more competitive as of right now. Down the road, who knows. Now that games have started, is it the same AU team playing their age in the MLS league that’s playing up in ECNL? |
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Sept 13, 2020 6:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by therussian on Sept 13, 2020 6:08:36 GMT -5
Anyone know how U15s fared?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 13, 2020 6:46:29 GMT -5
Anyone know how U15s fared? I have heard 1-0 and 2-0, either way it was a win for AU... |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Sept 13, 2020 6:52:05 GMT -5
Interesting to see how the local MLS Next teams compared to ECNL compete against AU. My money is on the ECNL teams being much more competitive as of right now. Down the road, who knows. Now that games have started, is it the same AU team playing their age in the MLS league that’s playing up in ECNL? Yes and no. (Not sure of the younger age group) Some u16s play with the U17 MLS and U18/19 ECNL A lot of U17 MLS play U18/19 ECNL But it's not a full team play up from what I can tell. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 9:48:53 GMT -5
They obviously think the top players will migrate to the clubs in their league, which might take a few years if it ever happens at all. I wonder if clubs that went ECNL will even want to switch back or add their top teams if they are invited and allowed to by the ECNL which would get their second teams, ostensibly. Lots of work to do as the league is terribly unbalanced now. Very true. If its working why throw in a wrench. Well I think the MLS Next will be that in a few years. The $$ that will be behind it will for sure get a lot of eyeballs and very eager beaver parents AU is doing both MLS and ECNL. U-12s play SCCL 13's play MLS NEXT U-14's - U19's play ECNL. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 9:56:49 GMT -5
As far as the players, just the opposite - I would like AU playing more against local teams, even if they play up. As far as the academy as an organization, I think they can do better, as most clubs can, but AU academy is the pinnacle so maybe I’m holding them to a higher standard. My opinion is during the first 2 years of existence it was driven more purely by the players and their talent, and now it seems overly administered and less compelling. Naturally it could also be that the excitement of those first years has worn off and business side of it has taken over. WHY?  ? This wont test their skill! This is why Generation Addidas is made for u-12, 15, 17,and 18. Atlanta United isn't at the highest pinnacle of academies yet. Go search up Philadelphia Union academy, then we can talk. |
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Sept 15, 2020 11:16:16 GMT -5
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 15, 2020 11:16:16 GMT -5
As far as the players, just the opposite - I would like AU playing more against local teams, even if they play up. As far as the academy as an organization, I think they can do better, as most clubs can, but AU academy is the pinnacle so maybe I’m holding them to a higher standard. My opinion is during the first 2 years of existence it was driven more purely by the players and their talent, and now it seems overly administered and less compelling. Naturally it could also be that the excitement of those first years has worn off and business side of it has taken over. WHY? ? This wont test their skill! This is why Generation Addidas is made for u-12, 15, 17,and 18. Atlanta United isn't at the highest pinnacle of academies yet. Go search up Philadelphia Union academy, then we can talk. In Atlanta - didn’t think I had to make that clear since this is called the Georgia Soccer Forum. At this point I can’t decide if you are entertaining or an imbecile. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 11:18:19 GMT -5
WHY? ? This wont test their skill! This is why Generation Addidas is made for u-12, 15, 17,and 18. Atlanta United isn't at the highest pinnacle of academies yet. Go search up Philadelphia Union academy, then we can talk. In Atlanta - didn’t think I had to make that clear since this is called the Georgia Soccer Forum. At this point I can’t decide if you are entertaining or an imbecile. Tell me one reason it would be good to play against local teams. |
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Sept 15, 2020 11:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2020 11:38:02 GMT -5
In Atlanta - didn’t think I had to make that clear since this is called the Georgia Soccer Forum. At this point I can’t decide if you are entertaining or an imbecile. Tell me one reason it would be good to play against local teams. Because not all the best players are at Atlanta United. Everybody knows that. |
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Sept 15, 2020 11:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 15, 2020 11:52:05 GMT -5
In Atlanta - didn’t think I had to make that clear since this is called the Georgia Soccer Forum. At this point I can’t decide if you are entertaining or an imbecile. Tell me one reason it would be good to play against local teams. Okay, pal, here you go: AU doesn’t always get it right - of the 10+ players moving to/from my 2 sons ECNL teams, only one has even been included in the top 4-5 players on the ECNL team; They win games because they are deeper - their subs are better than other teams subs; They only recruit attacking players for the most part and convert them the defenders that get very little work in games because they dominate the middle and attacking thirds; They only get away with this because they are free and have a monopolistic recruitment territory; The non-MLS clubs in NEXT are a far cry from the competition they had in DA last year and those clubs would be bottom table ECNL teams; MLS academies hemorrhage money and more travel with their new league exacerbates that fact; AU sets up no-lose situations with local clubs by operating under their own rules, playing up in age group, and avoiding tough local teams as much as possible; By simply joining ECNL at the demise of DA, it would have set up real competition locally and limited travel costs while they could have done their own MLS schedule during ECNL high school hiatus - but they didn’t want to put themselves in humiliating circumstances; There are plenty of top tier local players not on AU teams that they would be able to assess each week; I could go on all day. The fact is that right now MLS Next is made up of quality MLS clubs, some quality non-MLS clubs in other parts of the county, and then the other 75% of the league, which is made up of clubs/teams that couldn’t compete in any ECNL conference. As I said before, that may change but we’re talking about the here and now. Of course DA was better than ECNL top to bottom last year but now ECNL has improved their talent while MLS Next just has their MLS teams and a few decent teams across the nation. For example, the CF Platinum teams, with the same or better players than they had last year are somehow worse now that it says ECNL on their jerseys instead of DA? I think not, my friend. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 12:04:10 GMT -5
Tell me one reason it would be good to play against local teams. Okay, pal, here you go: AU doesn’t always get it right - of the 10+ players moving to/from my 2 sons ECNL teams, only one has even been included in the top 4-5 players on the ECNL team; They win games because they are deeper - their subs are better than other teams subs; They only recruit attacking players for the most part and convert them the defenders that get very little work in games because they dominate the middle and attacking thirds; They only get away with this because they are free and have a monopolistic recruitment territory; The non-MLS clubs in NEXT are a far cry from the competition they had in DA last year and those clubs would be bottom table ECNL teams; MLS academies hemorrhage money and more travel with their new league exacerbates that fact; AU sets up no-lose situations with local clubs by operating under their own rules, playing up in age group, and avoiding tough local teams as much as possible; By simply joining ECNL at the demise of DA, it would have set up real competition locally and limited travel costs while they could have done their own MLS schedule during ECNL high school hiatus - but they didn’t want to put themselves in humiliating circumstances; There are plenty of top tier local players not on AU teams that they would be able to assess each week; I could go on all day. The fact is that right now MLS Next is made up of quality MLS clubs, some quality non-MLS clubs in other parts of the county, and then the other 75% of the league, which is made up of clubs/teams that couldn’t compete in any ECNL conference. As I said before, that may change but we’re talking about the here and now. Of course DA was better than ECNL top to bottom last year but now ECNL has improved their talent while MLS Next just has their MLS teams and a few decent teams across the nation. For example, the CF Platinum teams, with the same or better players than they had last year are somehow worse now that it says ECNL on their jerseys instead of DA? I think not, my friend. No- our subs are better than your STARTERS' They recruit attacking players so everybody has skill What tough local teams do they avoid? Last year, we played the big 8 and beat them all? They let players play up to give them more competition? This argument is childish. |
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Post by soccerdad23 on Sept 15, 2020 12:04:52 GMT -5
How did SSA build the rosters for their MLS Next teams? For example did they just move their NPL team there then bump everyone up? Seems like their best team is still playing as CF Platinum in ECNL..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 12:05:06 GMT -5
Tell me one reason it would be good to play against local teams. Because not all the best players are at Atlanta United. Everybody knows that. But 90% of them are though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 12:09:57 GMT -5
How did SSA build the rosters for their MLS Next teams? For example did they just move their NPL team there then bump everyone up? Seems like their best team is still playing as CF Platinum in ECNL.. 07 CF Platinum is only good because 5 of them got cut from AU then moved to CF |
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 15, 2020 12:48:46 GMT -5
How did SSA build the rosters for their MLS Next teams? For example did they just move their NPL team there then bump everyone up? Seems like their best team is still playing as CF Platinum in ECNL.. Yes. The MLS announcement at all ages came well after tryouts were done and contracts were signed. The only ones that knew they were trying out for MLS in June were the 07s and 08s. All other ages just got moved up from NPL to MLS. Then the SCCL teams moved up to NLP and so on. On the boys side, the only two ages that utilized the "alliance" and have a large portion of SSA players playing on Concorde ECNL teams are 05 Platinum and 03 Premier. Those teams were already set before MLS came along so they stayed in ECNL. Will be interesting to see how that plays out next year though. |
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Sept 15, 2020 13:11:09 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2020 13:11:09 GMT -5
Because not all the best players are at Atlanta United. Everybody knows that. But 90% of them are though. I don’t what age groups you are referring to but I can guarantee you u12-u14 do not have 90% of the best players. I say that because I see these kids train and some do not meet the eye test. |
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Sept 15, 2020 13:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Sept 15, 2020 13:12:54 GMT -5
How did SSA build the rosters for their MLS Next teams? For example did they just move their NPL team there then bump everyone up? Seems like their best team is still playing as CF Platinum in ECNL.. 07 CF Platinum is only good because 5 of them got cut from AU then moved to CF So the players are good then right? They came and made the team better right? Everybody isn’t a fit for AU. Doesn’t mean boys that are at AU are better. It just means they are at AU for the time being. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 13:13:11 GMT -5
But 90% of them are though. I don’t what age groups you are referring to but I can guarantee you u12-u14 do not have 90% of the best players. I say that because I see these kids train and some do not meet the eye test. Wait!, how do you see them train...... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 13:18:08 GMT -5
07 CF Platinum is only good because 5 of them got cut from AU then moved to CF So the players are good then right? They came and made the team better right? Everybody isn’t a fit for AU. Doesn’t mean boys that are at AU are better. It just means they are at AU for the time being. Nope. That dosen't make them AU quality because a lot of them were good in U12 but didn't have the quality to make the move to 11v11 and still play well, so that was the result. Most of the people that got cut didn't play much. (And I mean 10 mins...) One of the guys had only played there for about 6 months. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Sept 15, 2020 13:20:38 GMT -5
I don’t what age groups you are referring to but I can guarantee you u12-u14 do not have 90% of the best players. I say that because I see these kids train and some do not meet the eye test. Wait!, how do you see them train...... He peeks through the bushes and watches  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 13:22:37 GMT -5
Wait!, how do you see them train...... He peeks through the bushes and watches lol |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 15, 2020 13:24:30 GMT -5
So the players are good then right? They came and made the team better right? Everybody isn’t a fit for AU. Doesn’t mean boys that are at AU are better. It just means they are at AU for the time being. Nope. That dosen't make them AU quality because a lot of them were good in U12 but didn't have the quality to make the move to 11v11 and still play well, so that was the result. Most of the people that got cut didn't play much. (And I mean 10 mins...) One of the guys had only played there for about 6 months. any club playing a u13 kid 10 minutes a game should be ashamed of themselves. if a kid makes a team, and meets the expectations of the coach/club, they should play. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 13:25:44 GMT -5
But 90% of them are though. I don’t what age groups you are referring to but I can guarantee you u12-u14 do not have 90% of the best players. I say that because I see these kids train and some do not meet the eye test. Wait! Are you telling me that because the kid doesn't meet the eye test, they aren't going to make it?! Are you stupid enough to say these things! We have seen so many pros denied by the eye test but still made it. (Jamie Vardy, N'golo Kante, etc...) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 13:28:27 GMT -5
Nope. That dosen't make them AU quality because a lot of them were good in U12 but didn't have the quality to make the move to 11v11 and still play well, so that was the result. Most of the people that got cut didn't play much. (And I mean 10 mins...) One of the guys had only played there for about 6 months. any club playing a u13 kid 10 minutes a game should be ashamed of themselves. if a kid makes a team, and meets the expectations of the coach/club, they should play. Well... The U-13's last year had 22 players and only 11 are on the field. Only the best play. That's how life works. And plus, they have training to work hard. That's how rosters are selected, right? |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Sept 15, 2020 13:35:28 GMT -5
Okay, pal, here you go: AU doesn’t always get it right - of the 10+ players moving to/from my 2 sons ECNL teams, only one has even been included in the top 4-5 players on the ECNL team; They win games because they are deeper - their subs are better than other teams subs; They only recruit attacking players for the most part and convert them the defenders that get very little work in games because they dominate the middle and attacking thirds; They only get away with this because they are free and have a monopolistic recruitment territory; The non-MLS clubs in NEXT are a far cry from the competition they had in DA last year and those clubs would be bottom table ECNL teams; MLS academies hemorrhage money and more travel with their new league exacerbates that fact; AU sets up no-lose situations with local clubs by operating under their own rules, playing up in age group, and avoiding tough local teams as much as possible; By simply joining ECNL at the demise of DA, it would have set up real competition locally and limited travel costs while they could have done their own MLS schedule during ECNL high school hiatus - but they didn’t want to put themselves in humiliating circumstances; There are plenty of top tier local players not on AU teams that they would be able to assess each week; I could go on all day. The fact is that right now MLS Next is made up of quality MLS clubs, some quality non-MLS clubs in other parts of the county, and then the other 75% of the league, which is made up of clubs/teams that couldn’t compete in any ECNL conference. As I said before, that may change but we’re talking about the here and now. Of course DA was better than ECNL top to bottom last year but now ECNL has improved their talent while MLS Next just has their MLS teams and a few decent teams across the nation. For example, the CF Platinum teams, with the same or better players than they had last year are somehow worse now that it says ECNL on their jerseys instead of DA? I think not, my friend. No- our subs are better than your STARTERS' They recruit attacking players so everybody has skill What tough local teams do they avoid? Last year, we played the big 8 and beat them all? They let players play up to give them more competition? This argument is childish. Are we talking about U13 players so 12 years old?? Wow. Half the team wont be around by U17. The OG U12 team only has 7 players left (out of 32 players) at U17. Plenty of great local games. Always a good battle between AU and CF/UFA/GSA..now NASA to the list. AU plays other MLS academies as a measure. Sometimes gets handed. You can mix 7 AU players with 7 other area players and be a solid team no question. Prob wouldnt see any difference. This goes for all age groups. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Sept 15, 2020 13:40:49 GMT -5
any club playing a u13 kid 10 minutes a game should be ashamed of themselves. if a kid makes a team, and meets the expectations of the coach/club, they should play. Well... The U-13's last year had 22 players and only 11 are on the field. Only the best play. That's how life works. And plus, they have training to work hard. That's how rosters are selected, right? This is how it works at AU?? No out of those on the U13 who played up? (those are your best players at that time) AU doesnt always play their strongest lineups. I'm sure you know that already. If your player is getting starting mins at U16 with the U17 group then you can say they are one of the stronger players. |
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