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Post by Keeper on Feb 7, 2021 13:37:30 GMT -5
AFC is making the big announcement today. More options now for metro Atlanta and even better for those of us on the south side.. Wait what??? Thereâs soccer down on the southside? đ¤đ¤đ¤đ |
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Post by ball2futbol on Feb 7, 2021 13:43:39 GMT -5
If whatâs been discussed is true, CF gets to field another ECNL team thatâs truly a CF team. Theyâve gotten the curb appeal and branding for several years off the backs of another club. Guess it worked for both at the time. Itâs not like CF is going to hand back over that premier team to ECNL board.
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Post by fgug on Feb 7, 2021 14:09:15 GMT -5
But very unlikely Concorde can field a competitive 2nd team...
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Post by Keeper on Feb 7, 2021 14:31:50 GMT -5
But very unlikely Concorde can field a competitive 2nd team... Are you serious? With another year of SCCL down, and real tryouts theyll be plenty of players looking to get off of a top SCCL team and move up to ecnl. Or all those unhappy Inter Atlanta parents about all the travel from NL Piedmont and the chaos down there. |
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Post by bogan on Feb 7, 2021 14:31:57 GMT -5
AFC is making the big announcement today. More options now for metro Atlanta and even better for those of us on the south side.. Wait what??? Thereâs soccer down on the southside? đ¤đ¤đ¤đ Youâre killinâ me smalls...đ𤣠|
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 7, 2021 14:38:19 GMT -5
If SCCL summer tryouts yesterday is any indication, there will be a lot of NTH players moving to Concorde again this year. Saw a lot of hatter gear.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 7, 2021 15:03:55 GMT -5
AFC lightning made the announcement about GAL too.
So is this the end of NPL for both Boys and Girls?
What will UFA do?
If the boys side folds, how many UFA NPL players look to jump ship to NASA and AFU ECNL? I mean wouldnât most UFA NPL teams easily compete with AFUâs ECNL boys?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 7, 2021 15:19:12 GMT -5
If SCCL summer tryouts yesterday is any indication, there will be a lot of NTH players moving to Concorde again this year. Saw a lot of hatter gear. Maybe. But I would not use SCCL summer tryouts as a guide for the players wanting to leave. Don't forget that tophat has as many as 10 teams in an age group. Plus some players were not permitted to try out. |
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Post by dadofthree on Feb 7, 2021 15:19:55 GMT -5
Not just AFC joining GAL but SC Surf so the top two girls NPL clubs are gone to GAL. So where does that leave UFA Girls NPL.
GAL also added Palm Beach so the Southeast now has a good number of clubs. You can argue that several arent that strong (same as with any league) but with the introduction of their so called Champions league TH Gold will get to play some great teams. GAL is figuring things out and at the end will give ECNL a run for their money.
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Post by ball2futbol on Feb 7, 2021 15:36:57 GMT -5
So is that whatâs happening? Is GAL just picking up
NPL teams to fill out the SE region? Thatâs almost as laughable as Concorde not being able to field a second ECNL team, especially if thatâs what is happening.
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Post by dadofthree on Feb 7, 2021 15:44:23 GMT -5
SC Surf is a really good club. Top club in Mt Pleasant. I believe they were probably asked last year to join but their higherarcy probably wanted to wait until it was a little more established. Palm Beach was a DPL member so it made sense. For AFC and SSA both are top clubs without true top teams to put their best players on so they lost many to the big 5. Some can characterize it as a play to just get NPL teams but I think in the long run it will play out well for GAL with the clubs they added.
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Post by footyfan on Feb 7, 2021 19:24:43 GMT -5
Lol. Some men somewhere are counting the monies!
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Post by justwatching on Feb 7, 2021 20:30:47 GMT -5
There is no way Concorde can field two competitive ECNL teams. They tried already and failed hence why SSA alliance formed. Concorde didn't do that out of the kindness of their hearts. They didn't have the depth to field two high level teams.
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Post by fgug on Feb 7, 2021 20:35:16 GMT -5
Exactly
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Post by roki12 on Feb 7, 2021 20:41:57 GMT -5
There is no way Concorde can field two competitive ECNL teams. They tried already and failed hence why SSA alliance formed. Concorde didn't do that out of the kindness of their hearts. They didn't have the depth to field two high level teams. They are counting on TH players making the move to provide the depth. |
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Post by justwatching on Feb 7, 2021 21:39:59 GMT -5
There is no way Concorde can field two competitive ECNL teams. They tried already and failed hence why SSA alliance formed. Concorde didn't do that out of the kindness of their hearts. They didn't have the depth to field two high level teams. They are counting on TH players making the move to provide the depth. With GA growing and solidifying the local league less likely Tophat kids want to leave. Nationally GA was already in a decent place plus good affiliations with MLS and very credible leadership in its commissioner. If they continue this pace over the next couple months they would have a successful year one. Get a couple showcases in and details of next year's Champions league and that's good progress in a start up year. Get one or two ECNL teams to change and even more momentum. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Feb 7, 2021 21:43:52 GMT -5
AFC lightning made the announcement about GAL too. So is this the end of NPL for both Boys and Girls? What will UFA do? If the boys side folds, how many UFA NPL players look to jump ship to NASA and AFU ECNL? I mean wouldnât most UFA NPL teams easily compete with AFUâs ECNL boys? GAL is just for the girls. Lightning is going to get murdered in the GA league ... they should have just switched to NL. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Feb 7, 2021 21:55:11 GMT -5
There is no way Concorde can field two competitive ECNL teams. They tried already and failed hence why SSA alliance formed. Concorde didn't do that out of the kindness of their hearts. They didn't have the depth to field two high level teams. At every ECNL match and tournament the team is called âConcordeâ Premier, that doesnât sound like kindness? or failure?. Top clubs offering high level competition achieve depth every June during tryouts. |
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Post by soccerallthetime on Feb 7, 2021 21:55:49 GMT -5
NTH Navy players may choose to leave TH for SSA because they donât get any of the benefits the gold team gets...pay same dues, get less training, no recorded games, no heart rate/fitness monitors, lesser hotels, etc. Isn't every GA game for all teams and clubs recorded, analyzed, and game reports created by an outside company? So Tophat Navy would be included. All games are recorded for both Gold and Navy. Hotels are comparable. Itâs true that Navy isnât wearing monitors. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 7, 2021 22:00:34 GMT -5
Are they going to keep NPL?
IMO If the CF/SSA alliance is done, CF will take a majority of Premier team players.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 8, 2021 0:27:13 GMT -5
AFC lightning made the announcement about GAL too. So is this the end of NPL for both Boys and Girls? What will UFA do? If the boys side folds, how many UFA NPL players look to jump ship to NASA and AFU ECNL? I mean wouldnât most UFA NPL teams easily compete with AFUâs ECNL boys? GAL is just for the girls. Lightning is going to get murdered in the GA league ... they should have just switched to NL. I get that itâs just Girls, but are these clubs now pushing the NPL teams down a level? Is NPL at SSA & Afc Lighting now 2nd to GAL but above SCCL/NLP? Or are they pulling out of NPL all together. |
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Post by soccergirldad on Feb 8, 2021 8:34:32 GMT -5
But very unlikely Concorde can field a competitive 2nd team... To be honest even with the SSA deal, Concorde did not field competitive teams on the Premier side. I believe that only the 05's and maybe one other age group were half-way decent, from a record standpoint. |
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Post by justwatching on Feb 8, 2021 9:02:25 GMT -5
There is no way Concorde can field two competitive ECNL teams. They tried already and failed hence why SSA alliance formed. Concorde didn't do that out of the kindness of their hearts. They didn't have the depth to field two high level teams. At every ECNL match and tournament the team is called âConcordeâ Premier, that doesnât sound like kindness? or failure?. Top clubs offering high level competition achieve depth every June during tryouts. Not sure how knowledgeable you are of years past soccer in the area but Concorde tried to field two ECNL teams in the beginning years when they were granted two teams. Their second teams were all at the bottom of the standings. Some never won a game. They "failed" to provide two competitive teams in ECNL. That is what prompted the Concorde SSA alliance for ECNL. Concorde needed SSA and SSA needed Concorde. That is why I said it wasn't out of the kindness of Concorde's heart to offer access to SSA for their ECNL spot. Concorde couldn't do it by themselves. Concorde was awarded the spot from ECNL not SSA so they had to use the Concorde name. That has nothing to do with anything. Most clubs in the country can't field two ECNL teams successfully so it is not out of the norm for Concorde not to be able to do it either. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Feb 8, 2021 10:38:30 GMT -5
I get the SSA/CF history. I also see where we disagree now. You are defining 'failure' only in terms of wins and losses. I'm taking a different view of what each club has achieved from the alliance, past, present and future. At the end of the day these are businesses. Clearly someone at SSA decided the value proposition for them had run its course and I don't think wins and losses were a part of that equation.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 8, 2021 10:57:54 GMT -5
At every ECNL match and tournament the team is called âConcordeâ Premier, that doesnât sound like kindness? or failure?. Top clubs offering high level competition achieve depth every June during tryouts. Not sure how knowledgeable you are of years past soccer in the area but Concorde tried to field two ECNL teams in the beginning years when they were granted two teams. Their second teams were all at the bottom of the standings. Some never won a game. They "failed" to provide two competitive teams in ECNL. That is what prompted the Concorde SSA alliance for ECNL. Concorde needed SSA and SSA needed Concorde. That is why I said it wasn't out of the kindness of Concorde's heart to offer access to SSA for their ECNL spot. Concorde couldn't do it by themselves. Concorde was awarded the spot from ECNL not SSA so they had to use the Concorde name. That has nothing to do with anything. Most clubs in the country can't field two ECNL teams successfully so it is not out of the norm for Concorde not to be able to do it either.  I get your point, but the soccer landscape has drastically changed in the last 5 years since then. ECNL, especially the boys side, has become very watered down with the addition of so many new clubs and âtopâ leagues. If the Ga / Fl division split does come so will the Girls side. So youâre telling me a player at Santos or Rush who was playing NL Piedmont and then dropped to SCCL wouldnât try to go jump ship to CF for ECNL? Same for say a group of players that have bounced from UFA to All In? Isnât there supposedly an entire AFU ECNL team ready leave? What happens to UFAs NPL team if NPL folds in Atlanta due to GAL, those players okay dropping to SCCL? |
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 8, 2021 11:19:39 GMT -5
Not sure how knowledgeable you are of years past soccer in the area but Concorde tried to field two ECNL teams in the beginning years when they were granted two teams. Their second teams were all at the bottom of the standings. Some never won a game. They "failed" to provide two competitive teams in ECNL. That is what prompted the Concorde SSA alliance for ECNL. Concorde needed SSA and SSA needed Concorde. That is why I said it wasn't out of the kindness of Concorde's heart to offer access to SSA for their ECNL spot. Concorde couldn't do it by themselves. Concorde was awarded the spot from ECNL not SSA so they had to use the Concorde name. That has nothing to do with anything. Most clubs in the country can't field two ECNL teams successfully so it is not out of the norm for Concorde not to be able to do it either. I get your point, but the soccer landscape has drastically changed in the last 5 years since then. ECNL, especially the boys side, has become very watered down with the addition of so many new clubs and âtopâ leagues. If the Ga / Fl division split does come so will the Girls side. So youâre telling me a player at Santos or Rush who was playing NL Piedmont and then dropped to SCCL wouldnât try to go jump ship to CF for ECNL? Same for say a group of players that have bounced from UFA to All In? Isnât there supposedly an entire AFU ECNL team ready leave? What happens to UFAs NPL team if NPL folds in Atlanta due to GAL, those players okay dropping to SCCL? UFA will be in a very interesting position if NPL folds. Except for the 05s, SCCL is played out of Norcross. Are they going to pull SCCL from Norcross and send it to Forsyth to "replace" NPL or will they keep it at Norcross? If they pull it from Norcross, will that be the death knell for Norcross? If they keep it at Norcross, what happens to all of the NPL players at Forsyth? It will be very interesting what UFA decides to do. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 8, 2021 11:22:44 GMT -5
I get your point, but the soccer landscape has drastically changed in the last 5 years since then. ECNL, especially the boys side, has become very watered down with the addition of so many new clubs and âtopâ leagues. If the Ga / Fl division split does come so will the Girls side. So youâre telling me a player at Santos or Rush who was playing NL Piedmont and then dropped to SCCL wouldnât try to go jump ship to CF for ECNL? Same for say a group of players that have bounced from UFA to All In? Isnât there supposedly an entire AFU ECNL team ready leave? What happens to UFAs NPL team if NPL folds in Atlanta due to GAL, those players okay dropping to SCCL? UFA will be in a very interesting position if NPL folds. Except for the 05s, SCCL is played out of Norcross. Are they going to pull SCCL from Norcross and send it to Forsyth to "replace" NPL or will they keep it at Norcross? If they pull it from Norcross, will that be the death knell for Norcross? If they keep it at Norcross, what happens to all of the NPL players at Forsyth? It will be very interesting what UFA decides to do.  Solution to this is to join ECRL and have two teams (one from each location) as Charlotte Independence and NCFC do (I think CSA also?) |
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Post by roki12 on Feb 8, 2021 11:25:19 GMT -5
I get your point, but the soccer landscape has drastically changed in the last 5 years since then. ECNL, especially the boys side, has become very watered down with the addition of so many new clubs and âtopâ leagues. If the Ga / Fl division split does come so will the Girls side. So youâre telling me a player at Santos or Rush who was playing NL Piedmont and then dropped to SCCL wouldnât try to go jump ship to CF for ECNL? Same for say a group of players that have bounced from UFA to All In? Isnât there supposedly an entire AFU ECNL team ready leave? What happens to UFAs NPL team if NPL folds in Atlanta due to GAL, those players okay dropping to SCCL? UFA will be in a very interesting position if NPL folds. Except for the 05s, SCCL is played out of Norcross. Are they going to pull SCCL from Norcross and send it to Forsyth to "replace" NPL or will they keep it at Norcross? If they pull it from Norcross, will that be the death knell for Norcross? If they keep it at Norcross, what happens to all of the NPL players at Forsyth? It will be very interesting what UFA decides to do.  Would GAL be an option? |
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 8, 2021 11:29:52 GMT -5
UFA will be in a very interesting position if NPL folds. Except for the 05s, SCCL is played out of Norcross. Are they going to pull SCCL from Norcross and send it to Forsyth to "replace" NPL or will they keep it at Norcross? If they pull it from Norcross, will that be the death knell for Norcross? If they keep it at Norcross, what happens to all of the NPL players at Forsyth? It will be very interesting what UFA decides to do. Solution to this is to join ECRL and have two teams (one from each location) as Charlotte Independence and NCFC do (I think CSA also?) That is currently just the Carolinas. Are they letting Georgia teams in? Unless a number of Georgia teams are added, that is a lot of travel. |
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 8, 2021 11:31:43 GMT -5
UFA will be in a very interesting position if NPL folds. Except for the 05s, SCCL is played out of Norcross. Are they going to pull SCCL from Norcross and send it to Forsyth to "replace" NPL or will they keep it at Norcross? If they pull it from Norcross, will that be the death knell for Norcross? If they keep it at Norcross, what happens to all of the NPL players at Forsyth? It will be very interesting what UFA decides to do. Would GAL be an option? Don't know but I doubt it. With the exception of a couple of age groups, UFA NPL teams (both boys and girls) finished middle to bottom of table in the fall. |
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