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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 8, 2021 11:39:17 GMT -5
Solution to this is to join ECRL and have two teams (one from each location) as Charlotte Independence and NCFC do (I think CSA also?) That is currently just the Carolinas. Are they letting Georgia teams in? Unless a number of Georgia teams are added, that is a lot of travel. I mean have ECRL happen in Georgia. Then have 2 teams for UFA and others that have the depth. Change SCCL to ECRL. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 8, 2021 11:56:08 GMT -5
yea, agree at this point sccl should just be ecrl, get rid of NPL also.
i also don't think a team in a market with a large amount of clubs should be given more than 1 ecnl team per age group unless:
* the clubs are truly 2 distinct locations, even that can be dicey. I think it gives an unfair advantage to the club with 2 teams, ability to sell "we have 2 teams etc"
* or a club like NCFC who basically has monopolized an entire large city.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Feb 8, 2021 12:24:14 GMT -5
yea, agree at this point sccl should just be ecrl, get rid of NPL also. i also don't think a team in a market with a large amount of clubs should be given more than 1 ecnl team per age group unless: * the clubs are truly 2 distinct locations, even that can be dicey. I think it gives an unfair advantage to the club with 2 teams, ability to sell "we have 2 teams etc" * or a club like NCFC who basically has monopolized an entire large city. I've been told that they don't want SCCL to be turned over to ECRL because they like have the control that comes with running SCCL. In other terms, the "power"... to wrestle that away from them might be easier said than done. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 8, 2021 12:33:47 GMT -5
yea, agree at this point sccl should just be ecrl, get rid of NPL also. i also don't think a team in a market with a large amount of clubs should be given more than 1 ecnl team per age group unless: * the clubs are truly 2 distinct locations, even that can be dicey. I think it gives an unfair advantage to the club with 2 teams, ability to sell "we have 2 teams etc" * or a club like NCFC who basically has monopolized an entire large city. I've been told that they don't want SCCL to be turned over to ECRL because they like have the control that comes with running SCCL. In other terms, the "power"... to wrestle that away from them might be easier said than done. yea, that makes sense -- forgot about that huge part. SCCL the clubs control 100% vs a national office located in X. very valid argument for sure, and now I think about this is 100% right, especially for 3rd to 6th teams etc. |
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Post by Keeper on Feb 8, 2021 12:47:57 GMT -5
Well SSA just put out a new pyramid for them with their WPSL pro team at the top, then GAL, then South Atlantic NPL, then SCCL.
So looks like NPL will stick around in Atlanta but get more watered down from SSA and AFC Lightning.
Would be interesting to see if any other non ECNL and GAL clubs look to join NPL. Would be a great addition for Santos or Rush from SCCL, and Impact or Inter Atlanta.
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 8, 2021 13:21:44 GMT -5
Well SSA just put out a new pyramid for them with their WPSL pro team at the top, then GAL, then South Atlantic NPL, then SCCL. So looks like NPL will stick around in Atlanta but get more watered down from SSA and AFC Lightning. Would be interesting to see if any other non ECNL and GAL clubs look to join NPL. Would be a great addition for Santos or Rush from SCCL, and Impact or Inter Atlanta. Currently, Rush cannot even field a team at each age group on the girls side for SCCL. I can’t imagine that they can fill NPL and Sccl teams. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Feb 8, 2021 13:42:18 GMT -5
UFA will be in a very interesting position if NPL folds. Except for the 05s, SCCL is played out of Norcross. Are they going to pull SCCL from Norcross and send it to Forsyth to "replace" NPL or will they keep it at Norcross? If they pull it from Norcross, will that be the death knell for Norcross? If they keep it at Norcross, what happens to all of the NPL players at Forsyth? It will be very interesting what UFA decides to do. Would GAL be an option? For UFAs current ECNL team, or NPL team? the ECNL team would be a fit for GAL, not the NPL team. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 8, 2021 13:48:12 GMT -5
For UFAs current ECNL team, or NPL team? the ECNL team would be a fit for GAL, not the NPL team. UFA isn't walking away from ECNL. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 8, 2021 13:49:09 GMT -5
Well SSA just put out a new pyramid for them with their WPSL pro team at the top, then GAL, then South Atlantic NPL, then SCCL. So looks like NPL will stick around in Atlanta but get more watered down from SSA and AFC Lightning. Would be interesting to see if any other non ECNL and GAL clubs look to join NPL. Would be a great addition for Santos or Rush from SCCL, and Impact or Inter Atlanta. Currently, Rush cannot even field a team at each age group on the girls side for SCCL. I can’t imagine that they can fill NPL and Sccl teams. Agree - they need to just focus on SCCL for now. |
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Post by justwatching on Feb 8, 2021 15:40:28 GMT -5
For UFAs current ECNL team, or NPL team? the ECNL team would be a fit for GAL, not the NPL team. UFA isn't walking away from ECNL. Rumor has it that they applied to GAL. Maybe hoping for their second teams but no way they get in for their second teams so if true only makes sense for their current ECNL teams. UFA would be a great target...1) Former DA so familiar with most of the league clubs and league requirements 2) Gives a place for 1st teams (GA) and 2nd teams (DPL). They could be the first club to go back |
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Post by justwatching on Feb 8, 2021 15:48:59 GMT -5
Not sure how knowledgeable you are of years past soccer in the area but Concorde tried to field two ECNL teams in the beginning years when they were granted two teams. Their second teams were all at the bottom of the standings. Some never won a game. They "failed" to provide two competitive teams in ECNL. That is what prompted the Concorde SSA alliance for ECNL. Concorde needed SSA and SSA needed Concorde. That is why I said it wasn't out of the kindness of Concorde's heart to offer access to SSA for their ECNL spot. Concorde couldn't do it by themselves. Concorde was awarded the spot from ECNL not SSA so they had to use the Concorde name. That has nothing to do with anything. Most clubs in the country can't field two ECNL teams successfully so it is not out of the norm for Concorde not to be able to do it either. I get your point, but the soccer landscape has drastically changed in the last 5 years since then. ECNL, especially the boys side, has become very watered down with the addition of so many new clubs and “top” leagues. If the Ga / Fl division split does come so will the Girls side. So you’re telling me a player at Santos or Rush who was playing NL Piedmont and then dropped to SCCL wouldn’t try to go jump ship to CF for ECNL? Same for say a group of players that have bounced from UFA to All In? Isn’t there supposedly an entire AFU ECNL team ready leave? What happens to UFAs NPL team if NPL folds in Atlanta due to GAL, those players okay dropping to SCCL? I don't know about the boy's side getting watered down. This year is the first year ECNL on the boys side has ever been considered a "top league" for boys and that is because DA went away. Regardless of DA vs ECNL for Girls it was always clear DA was the tops for boys. Now you have ECNL and a newly established MLS Next vying for the top spot with ECNL having a more established past so winning the battle but who knows what happens in the long term. Those Santos kids or current Premier kids could go to Concorde for second team but in my opinion is a bad option. That team is still a second team and will be recruited for colleges like a second team would it will never get pass that reality. Go to one of the new GA or first team ECNL teams but I don't buy quality kids flocking to be on a Concorde second team for ECNL. At least with Premier it was still technically SSA's top team. |
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Post by dadofthree on Feb 8, 2021 17:01:06 GMT -5
UFA isn't walking away from ECNL. Rumor has it that they applied to GAL. Maybe hoping for their second teams but no way they get in for their second teams so if true only makes sense for their current ECNL teams. UFA would be a great target...1) Former DA so familiar with most of the league clubs and league requirements 2) Gives a place for 1st teams (GA) and 2nd teams (DPL). They could be the first club to go back They had been accepted in DPL previously before the DA folded so could they have just applied for DPL for their 2nd teams? |
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Post by fgug on Feb 8, 2021 19:02:16 GMT -5
Are there any SSA parents on here with girls on the Premier teams. What’s the sentiment? Disappointment?
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Post by soccerlegacy on Feb 8, 2021 20:05:54 GMT -5
Are there any SSA parents on here with girls on the Premier teams. What’s the sentiment? Disappointment? I'm curious about this myself.... I would like to get their perspective. I don't know how many are on this site from SSA. |
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Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on Feb 10, 2021 16:54:38 GMT -5
Are there any SSA parents on here with girls on the Premier teams. What’s the sentiment? Disappointment? I'm curious about this myself.... I would like to get their perspective. I don't know how many are on this site from SSA. A little grumblings I have heard, is that some will choose to stay in ECNL at Concorde. Just grumblings. |
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