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Post by bogan on May 4, 2021 6:01:29 GMT -5
“In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? “
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 4, 2021 8:42:02 GMT -5
It's not as bad as Georgia baseball and Georgia basketball games but when did the soccer parent sidelines get so ugly? Maybe it's pent up covid frustrations who knows? In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? Since always? At least in my limited experience. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 4, 2021 8:48:57 GMT -5
It's not as bad as Georgia baseball and Georgia basketball games but when did the soccer parent sidelines get so ugly? Maybe it's pent up covid frustrations who knows? In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? I don't know about baseball, but basketball games have always been a mess when it comes to parents. Soccer was (still is) WAY better in terms of out-of-control parents. I always respected that about youth soccer. As for Tophat, the only times (almost) I've seen them "lose it" has been when they aren't winning, which isn't often. I guess it's easier to keep your composure when your team is in the lead. Note: one observation I have seen more of lately is the intermingling of parents on the sideline from both teams. I think that has A LOT to do with it. If the parents of the participating teams would stay on their own sidelines, it would ease the confrontations a bunch! And if you do stroll down the sideline to the other side... DON'T interject yourself into the conversations of the other teams' parents. Both sides talk a little trash amongst their own, it's not you're place to defend it simply because you walked down the line to your little Susie or Johnny because they are not on your half at the moment. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 4, 2021 8:52:22 GMT -5
It's not as bad as Georgia baseball and Georgia basketball games but when did the soccer parent sidelines get so ugly? Maybe it's pent up covid frustrations who knows? In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? I don't know about baseball, but basketball games have always been a mess when it comes to parents. Soccer was (still is) WAY better in terms of out-of-control parents. I always respected that about youth soccer. As for Tophat, the only times (almost) I've seen them "lose it" has been when they aren't winning, which isn't often. I guess it's easier to keep your composure when you're team is in the lead. Note: one observation I have seen more of lately is the intermingling of parents on the sideline from both teams. I think that has A LOT to do with it. If the parents of the participating teams would stay on their own sidelines, it would ease the confrontations a bunch! And if you do stroll down the sideline to the other side... DON'T interject yourself into the conversations of the other teams' parents. Both sides talk a little trash amongst their own, it's not you're place to defend it simply because you walked down the line to your little Susie or Johnny because they are not on your half at the moment. I'm a firm believer in that as well -- sit on your side of the field, and if your going to sit near the opposing parents, don't run your lip constantly, that is when the problems begin. Keep your mouth shut and sit in peace -- as soccerlegacy mentions, I think that won't fix everything, but would help for sure. |
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Post by footyfan on May 4, 2021 8:59:53 GMT -5
It's not as bad as Georgia baseball and Georgia basketball games but when did the soccer parent sidelines get so ugly? Maybe it's pent up covid frustrations who knows? In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? I don't know about baseball, but basketball games have always been a mess when it comes to parents. Soccer was (still is) WAY better in terms of out-of-control parents. I always respected that about youth soccer. As for Tophat, the only times (almost) I've seen them "lose it" has been when they aren't winning, which isn't often. I guess it's easier to keep your composure when you're team is in the lead. Note: one observation I have seen more of lately is the intermingling of parents on the sideline from both teams. I think that has A LOT to do with it. If the parents of the participating teams would stay on their own sidelines, it would ease the confrontations a bunch! And if you do stroll down the sideline to the other side... DON'T interject yourself into the conversations of the other teams' parents. Both sides talk a little trash amongst their own, it's not you're place to defend it simply because you walked down the line to your little Susie or Johnny because they are not on your half at the moment. I've noticed this and heard the same from others. Is it hard for the club/coaches to tell parents to sit on the same half of the field as their player's bench? That used to be common knowledge/courtesy. It is/was especially important with the 6 ft distance reqd by covid restrictions. You need the whole half for a team if 16 families show up. One parent I spoke with asked if an opponent parent wouldn't mind moving 15 feet to the other half bc there was plenty of space on their side of the midfield line. The opposing parent said "who's going to make me?" Unreal. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 4, 2021 9:04:49 GMT -5
The only thing about the "stay on your sideline" is the parents who want to film from attacking half. We have done this for years. I will say we have never gotten in a fight with an opposing team family member. We have been officially kicked off the opposing sideline once in North Carolina where it is a rule enforced by the refs (if anyone cares to notice or complain).
We still film even when there is an official filming company because sometimes you can see it better from the attacking half than you can from the midline camera. Especially true for footwork on the far sideline.
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 4, 2021 9:38:09 GMT -5
We as parents should sit on our butts keep our mouth shut unless we are cheering on our child. Our kids will appreciate it as will the overall environment. 99% of fans/parents have less than zero clue as to what’s going on in the game. I will say there is nothing funnier than a bunch of parents getting all bent out of shape over a missed call when they themselves have no idea what they’re talking about other than they see a little Susie laying on the ground because she tripped over her own feet.
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Post by datrain on May 4, 2021 9:44:52 GMT -5
Honestly, I really don't care which side of a field a parent sits. It's a free country.
That said, the general statement of "Do not mingle with the other team's parent base" is sound advise
Full disclosure...as a goalie dad, I like to sit down by the goal to watch my sons play in the net....but also to avoid listening to parents from both teams. Honestly, 80% of sideline Mourinho's have no clue what they are talking about (and I count many of those as my friends).
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Post by datrain on May 4, 2021 9:46:04 GMT -5
We as parents should sit on our butts keep our mouth shut unless we are cheering on our child. Our kids will appreciate it as will the overall environment. 99% of fans/parents have less than zero clue as to what’s going on in the game. I will say there is nothing funnier than a bunch of parents getting all bent out of shape over a missed call when they themselves have no idea what they’re talking about other than they see a little Susie laying on the ground because she tripped over her own feet. You beat me to the punch!!!!  |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 4, 2021 10:09:51 GMT -5
The only thing about the "stay on your sideline" is the parents who want to film from attacking half. We have done this for years. I will say we have never gotten in a fight with an opposing team family member. We have been officially kicked off the opposing sideline once in North Carolina where it is a rule enforced by the refs (if anyone cares to notice or complain). We still film even when there is an official filming company because sometimes you can see it better from the attacking half than you can from the midline camera. Especially true for footwork on the far sideline. I get that. I see it happen quite a bit, and I'm guessing you are pretty civil and respectful about it. Still, that is why also stated: " And if you do stroll down the sideline to the other side... DON'T interject yourself into the conversations of the other teams' parents. Both sides talk a little trash amongst their own, it's not you're place to defend it simply because you walked down the line to your little Susie or Johnny because they are not on your half at the moment." We had an opposing parent in one of our games filming his team on our half and he stood DIRECTLY behind our chairs. He was almost hovering over us ( I'm talking inches from the back of our chairs), and would comment when our parents were having our own chat about the game. When I asked him if he could move down the line some where there was some space, he said "it's my right to be here and I'm just filming". Yes it is his right, but, it's not very courteous either. So about 3-4 of us wound up standing up to block his view in the hope of passively forcing him to move. Very annoying and as footyfan stated, where has the common courtesy gone... we need that back. P.S.: @ datrain, I see ALOT of goalie dad's switch sides depending on where their kids is... that's very common ...but they usually are all the way down in the corner and stay to their own. I have no problems with that. I even see opposing goalie dads commune with each other...it's like they seem to have this special bond.  |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 4, 2021 10:18:14 GMT -5
Since my son plays defense I do tend to gravitate toward his end of the field no matter what half, but I generally stand pretty close to the corner flag and that tends to not have a lot of fans of either side around. The only time I don't do that is if I sit toward the mid-line and feel like I can see well enough to see him on both sides.
That being said I don't ever talk with opposing fans unless they are being nice and just chatting or asking questions. The only time I say something is if they are indeed being rude and also sitting on our team's side. I don't start stuff but will definitely put people in their place if they are on the wrong side and being idiots.
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Post by datrain on May 4, 2021 10:32:56 GMT -5
The only thing about the "stay on your sideline" is the parents who want to film from attacking half. We have done this for years. I will say we have never gotten in a fight with an opposing team family member. We have been officially kicked off the opposing sideline once in North Carolina where it is a rule enforced by the refs (if anyone cares to notice or complain). We still film even when there is an official filming company because sometimes you can see it better from the attacking half than you can from the midline camera. Especially true for footwork on the far sideline. I get that. I see it happen quite a bit, and I'm guessing you are pretty civil and respectful about it. Still, that is why also stated: " And if you do stroll down the sideline to the other side... DON'T interject yourself into the conversations of the other teams' parents. Both sides talk a little trash amongst their own, it's not you're place to defend it simply because you walked down the line to your little Susie or Johnny because they are not on your half at the moment." We had an opposing parent in one of our games filming his team on our half and he stood DIRECTLY behind our chairs. He was almost hovering over us ( I'm talking inches from the back of our chairs), and would comment when our parents were having our own chat about the game. When I asked him if he could move down the line some where there was some space, he said "it's my right to be here and I'm just filming". Yes it is his right, but, it's not very courteous either. So about 3-4 of us wound up standing up to block his view in the hope of passively forcing him to move. Very annoying and as footyfan stated, where has the common courtesy gone... we need that back. P.S.: @ datrain, I see ALOT of goalie dad's switch sides depending on where their kids is... that's very common ...but they usually are all the way down in the corner and stay to their own. I have no problems with that. I even see opposing goalie dads commune with each other...it's like they seem to have this special bond. That would be me.....I usually camp out between the 6 and the corner flag. I honestly don't want to be near anyone. Typically because I am a ball of stress. Goalie dads are a funny breed. |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 4, 2021 10:43:53 GMT -5
The only thing about the "stay on your sideline" is the parents who want to film from attacking half. We have done this for years. I will say we have never gotten in a fight with an opposing team family member. We have been officially kicked off the opposing sideline once in North Carolina where it is a rule enforced by the refs (if anyone cares to notice or complain). We still film even when there is an official filming company because sometimes you can see it better from the attacking half than you can from the midline camera. Especially true for footwork on the far sideline. I get that. I see it happen quite a bit, and I'm guessing you are pretty civil and respectful about it. Still, that is why also stated: " And if you do stroll down the sideline to the other side... DON'T interject yourself into the conversations of the other teams' parents. Both sides talk a little trash amongst their own, it's not you're place to defend it simply because you walked down the line to your little Susie or Johnny because they are not on your half at the moment." We had an opposing parent in one of our games filming his team on our half and he stood DIRECTLY behind our chairs. He was almost hovering over us ( I'm talking inches from the back of our chairs), and would comment when our parents were having our own chat about the game. When I asked him if he could move down the line some where there was some space, he said "it's my right to be here and I'm just filming". Yes it is his right, but, it's not very courteous either. So about 3-4 of us wound up standing up to block his view in the hope of passively forcing him to move. Very annoying and as footyfan stated, where has the common courtesy gone... we need that back. P.S.: @ datrain, I see ALOT of goalie dad's switch sides depending on where their kids is... that's very common ...but they usually are all the way down in the corner and stay to their own. I have no problems with that. I even see opposing goalie dads commune with each other...it's like they seem to have this special bond. My daughter's friend films our games. We then post them to YouTube afterwards. She records silently as all videographers should do but we do warn our parents all audio will be heard so be careful what you say. Also, if you are recording, get your butt there early and reserve the center spot. |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on May 4, 2021 11:25:02 GMT -5
Goalie Dad is the hardest position on the team. |
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Post by rifle on May 4, 2021 11:53:50 GMT -5
I filmed a lot then deleted a lot.. because the camera guy said something that didn’t need to be a memory.
I also enjoyed talking to parents of the other team. By the time your kid plays to U19.. you know a lot of them and IMO it’s fine to co-mingle as long as you’re not a richard. Simple rule to live by.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 4, 2021 12:31:39 GMT -5
I filmed a lot then deleted a lot.. because the camera guy said something that didn’t need to be a memory. I also enjoyed talking to parents of the other team. By the time your kid plays to U19.. you know a lot of them and IMO it’s fine to co-mingle as long as you’re not a richard. Simple rule to live by. We just delete the audio of every game due to the videographer and audience comments. No need for the players to hear all of that. We then overlay fake crowd noise. It is kind of funny when it times out right (cheer after a goal or great save). |
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Post by Shesakeeper on May 4, 2021 12:58:36 GMT -5
Goalie mom is right up there too! My hubs prowls between the corner flag and the 6, and I usually have a hand over my eyes at some point during the game. Lol. Goalie Dad is the hardest position on the team. |
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Post by bogan on May 4, 2021 13:07:12 GMT -5
I filmed a lot then deleted a lot.. because the camera guy said something that didn’t need to be a memory. I also enjoyed talking to parents of the other team. By the time your kid plays to U19.. you know a lot of them and IMO it’s fine to co-mingle as long as you’re not a richard. Simple rule to live by. Is a “Richard” like a “Chad?” |
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Post by bogan on May 4, 2021 13:09:55 GMT -5
I filmed a lot then deleted a lot.. because the camera guy said something that didn’t need to be a memory. I also enjoyed talking to parents of the other team. By the time your kid plays to U19.. you know a lot of them and IMO it’s fine to co-mingle as long as you’re not a richard. Simple rule to live by. We just delete the audio of every game due to the videographer and audience comments. No need for the players to hear all of that. We then overlay fake crowd noise. It is kind of funny when it times out right (cheer after a goal or great save). Yeah-and it’s also funny when it comes out wrong, too! |
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Post by Keeper on May 4, 2021 19:06:55 GMT -5
In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? When they sold out and became part of NASA. Those parents have been horrible since the old United Quest and Metro North days. |
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Post by Keeper on May 4, 2021 19:18:43 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone saw this in the Fall but SCYS (South Carolina) required teams and their fans to sit on the same side of the field due to Covid. So just like a football stadium the Home side has one side and the Away has another with benches at midfield area. Was pretty interesting sitting that close to the coach and kept parents from mingling. Would solve a lot of problems of extra talk and even Referee harassment.
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Post by BubbleDad on May 4, 2021 19:21:47 GMT -5
In particular, when did the once-respected Tophat parent sidelines become Talledega Tophat? When they sold out and became part of NASA. Those parents have been horrible since the old United Quest and Metro North days. This is hilarious! As a Tophat parent (and someone who has been kicked out of a game) ... all clubs have some off the chain parents. Tophat parents can be super off the chain when we play cheating Concorde. Always sliding ECNL players in on SCCL games ... they are dying to play Tophat ... please come back to ECNL Tophat! Before you know it ... more clubs will be on the GA/DPL side. |
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Post by Keeper on May 4, 2021 19:29:09 GMT -5
When they sold out and became part of NASA. Those parents have been horrible since the old United Quest and Metro North days. This is hilarious! As a Tophat parent (and someone who has been kicked out of a game) ... all clubs have some off the chain parents. Tophat parents can be super off the chain when we play cheating Concorde. Always sliding ECNL players in on SCCL games ... they are dying to play Tophat ... please come back to ECNL Tophat! Before you know it ... more clubs will be on the GA/DPL side. Fact checker here, there is absolutely zero rules saying an ECNL player can not play in an SCCL game. Not saying it’s right, but it technically is legal. That being said it will also be legal for a GA/DPL player to play in an SCCL game. |
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Post by dadofthree on May 4, 2021 19:29:59 GMT -5
Goalie mom is right up there too! My hubs prowls between the corner flag and the 6, and I usually have a hand over my eyes at some point during the game. Lol. Goalie Dad is the hardest position on the team. Would agree (since I am one) that a goalie parent is the toughest to be. Have heard everything imaginable from our own team more so than the other side. The other team chirping has always been towards my other daughter who is a forward/midfielder. |
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Post by newguy on May 4, 2021 19:47:02 GMT -5
Goalie mom is right up there too! My hubs prowls between the corner flag and the 6, and I usually have a hand over my eyes at some point during the game. Lol. Would agree (since I am one) that a goalie parent is the toughest to be. Have heard everything imaginable from our own team more so than the other side. The other team chirping has always been towards my other daughter who is a forward/midfielder. The comments from your own parent group is bad but that awkward long silence after you watch one go past your kid is worse. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on May 4, 2021 19:47:35 GMT -5
Goalie mom is right up there too! My hubs prowls between the corner flag and the 6, and I usually have a hand over my eyes at some point during the game. Lol. Goalie Dad is the hardest position on the team. The younger they are the worse it is, I've stopped following directly as I've had less reason to try and sideline coach lol. Now I just stand away from most other parents the whole game as both sides tend to bother me other than the ones that know what I'm going through  |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 4, 2021 20:49:26 GMT -5
This is hilarious! As a Tophat parent (and someone who has been kicked out of a game) ... all clubs have some off the chain parents. Tophat parents can be super off the chain when we play cheating Concorde. Always sliding ECNL players in on SCCL games ... they are dying to play Tophat ... please come back to ECNL Tophat! Before you know it ... more clubs will be on the GA/DPL side. Fact checker here, there is absolutely zero rules saying an ECNL player can not play in an SCCL game. Not saying it’s right, but it technically is legal. That being said it will also be legal for a GA/DPL player to play in an SCCL game. What's the point of playing SCCL if you are ECNL? Why play down? For playing time? Anyway. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 4, 2021 20:57:53 GMT -5
Fact checker here, there is absolutely zero rules saying an ECNL player can not play in an SCCL game. Not saying it’s right, but it technically is legal. That being said it will also be legal for a GA/DPL player to play in an SCCL game. What's the point of playing SCCL if you are ECNL? Why play down? For playing time? Anyway. Is this a serious question? I can think of numerous reasons. Maybe they're on the bench a lot in ECNL. Maybe the SCCL team is down some players. Or (as is often the case) the SCCL team is playing a tough opponent and knows they need some "help". BUSA did this last weekend against Concorde & UFA - 07 girls. |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 4, 2021 21:28:18 GMT -5
Just because a kid played on a top team in previous years doesn’t qualify them as a current ECNL/GA/DA player.
Plus if you’re competing at U15 and above concerning yourselves with a player wearing a different patch on their jersey, then I’d wonder what’d be your point of playing club in the first place? The days of chasing tournament medals are over... at that point it’s time to lace them up against whoever shows up on the field! IDK maybe I just see things differently.
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Post by BubbleDad on May 4, 2021 22:03:15 GMT -5
Yes it's a serious question. Of course you play whomever is in front of you but if you are ECNL then play ECNL. It seems like the Concorde premier teams already have their hands full with ECNL and "helping" the SCCL team isn't going to make them better players. Isn't the goal to play equal or better competition?
If you are in need of players, pull from the team below players who have played well on the level they are on and who have shown they are ready for the next level not the one who is riding the bench b/c they are the weakest ECNL player. How about player development not make you feel better b/c you are struggling to compete in your actual league.
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