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Post by atv on May 26, 2021 11:01:38 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what new clubs enter ECRL. The ECRL was initially piloted as a pathway for Clubs seeking consideration into ECNL. I believe this is still the case. I would think this is an attractive option for some very good Georgia clubs that may currently be struggling with identity and player pathways.
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Post by mightydawg on May 26, 2021 11:10:27 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what new clubs enter ECRL. The ECRL was initially piloted as a pathway for Clubs seeking consideration into ECNL. I believe this is still the case. I would think this is an attractive option for some very good Georgia clubs that may currently be struggling with identity and player pathways. Looking at the SCCL Club results, Roswell has a strong case to be included as an ECRL team for both boys and girls. Ambush has a strong argument to be included for the boys. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 26, 2021 11:10:42 GMT -5
Or it could be that the parent misunderstood what they were told. I'm not saying clubs aren't bad at communication (narrator voice: "THEY ARE") but sometimes parents hear what they want to hear. Ya, no. I didn't want to get into details or the extended version of what the parents were told, but it was not a standard club's "bad at communication" situation (  Morgan Freeman narration: "THEY ARE") ... it was an attempt to "spin" and intentionally leave out all of information. I'm not trying to place blame on this club in particular, they just happen to be the one I hear this particular incident about... and it could just be that coach or age group. Parents are left to education themselves on this crazy, backwards youth soccer world we all now live in because often times, as the OP alluded, the clubs might not have your best interests in mind. Thank god for sites like this, where you can glean enough information to learn the system and gain the knowledge it takes to navigate the stupid soccer landscape we all face. That's what originally brought me here. Fair enough and I hear ya on the miscommunication from clubs, sometimes intentional, sometimes not. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 26, 2021 11:10:53 GMT -5
So long as CC at GSA lets them in...
At this point half the biggest 10 clubs are in ECNL/ECRL, half are in GA/DPL...and all are in SCCL in some form.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 26, 2021 11:12:31 GMT -5
Other than day or even 1-night trips to neighboring states for regular season games (Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina), overnight travel should be reserved for tournaments and showcases. Boys ECNL SE has done a good job eliminating Florida from the Southeast Conference. ECNL Southeast should be Georgia (AFU, CF x2, GSA, UFA), Alabama (ALFC) and South Carolina (CESA, SC United). There should be a crossover event with ECNL Florida 2 weekends a year (one in Florida, one in Georgia). That would be a reasonable 18-game season with one weekend out of town. Then there would be the required 2-3 showcases. ECNL FLorida should add another Tampa-area and another Miami-area club though.
But here I am thinking logically.
Yep, what's gotten into you!! hahaha |
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Post by SoccerMom on May 26, 2021 11:21:36 GMT -5
I have heard of friends at 2 local clubs whose players were offered the “ECRL” team with a “chance to possibly train and guest play in ECNL”. Remember, ECRL is basically the current SCCL teams with a fancier name for next season. Also, when you are second team at a club you get labeled second team. The bigs clubs are always looking for the shiny new object to fill their ecnl openings the following season and rarely is that from their own second team. At UFA, the ECNL-R teams will be the old NPL teams, not the SCCL teams. With the other big clubs with multiple locations it may be similar |
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Post by insideinfo on May 26, 2021 11:23:15 GMT -5
Is it better to play on a winning ECRL team with a good coach or a last place ECNL team? Parents can probably find their kid a spot at another club on one of the lower rank ECNL teams but is that experience worth it? Are you asking if its better to play ECRL or play at AFU? 😎 |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 26, 2021 11:27:00 GMT -5
Is it better to play on a winning ECRL team with a good coach or a last place ECNL team? Parents can probably find their kid a spot at another club on one of the lower rank ECNL teams but is that experience worth it? Are you asking if its better to play ECRL or play at AFU? 😎 Daaaaaammmmmn!! LOL  |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 26, 2021 11:34:36 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what new clubs enter ECRL. The ECRL was initially piloted as a pathway for Clubs seeking consideration into ECNL. I believe this is still the case. I would think this is an attractive option for some very good Georgia clubs that may currently be struggling with identity and player pathways. Looking at the SCCL Club results, Roswell has a strong case to be included as an ECRL team for both boys and girls. Ambush has a strong argument to be included for the boys. Girls side has gone the way of DPL with hopes of GAL in the future, I think the ECNL ship has sailed for Roswell. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 26, 2021 11:38:40 GMT -5
Looking at the SCCL Club results, Roswell has a strong case to be included as an ECRL team for both boys and girls. Ambush has a strong argument to be included for the boys. Girls side has gone the way of DPL with hopes of GAL in the future, I think the ECNL ship has sailed for Roswell. I agree completely. I think that ECRL made a huge mistake in not accepting Roswell (particularly the girls) this year. They had the results to back up inclusion. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 26, 2021 11:48:16 GMT -5
I know it is easy to pick on a single club, but did anyone realize that in ECNL, UFA girls finished below AFU girls in U13 - U15?
When you look at the standings for SCCL girls (both Spring & Fall), UFA & AFU are very similar and typically finished within one place of one another.
I realize UFA has NPL and that would probably help them in SCCL. However, as bad as AFU is in some age groups, UFA isn't much better and might even be worse.
By the way, we aren't at either of those 2 clubs, so I don't have a dog in the fight.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 26, 2021 12:09:50 GMT -5
AFU finished above both UFA and Concorde Premier in 3 girls ECNL age groups (so half). These 3 clubs all average around 8th in standings across all age groups. AFU doesn't have any "strong" teams and cannot really compete with GSA or CF Platinum.
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Post by Keeper on May 26, 2021 12:26:25 GMT -5
Girls side has gone the way of DPL with hopes of GAL in the future, I think the ECNL ship has sailed for Roswell. I agree completely. I think that ECRL made a huge mistake in not accepting Roswell (particularly the girls) this year. They had the results to back up inclusion. Wasnt ECNL/ECRL that didn’t take Santos. It was Campbell at Gsa (who by ECNL rules) vetoed all new additions to the Metro Atlanta area. |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 26, 2021 12:27:00 GMT -5
I agree. Outside of an age group or two, the Big 6 is really like the Big 3! Lots of piling on when it comes to AFU for some reason.
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 26, 2021 12:48:31 GMT -5
AFU finished above both UFA and Concorde Premier in 3 girls ECNL age groups (so half). These 3 clubs all average around 8th in standings across all age groups. AFU doesn't have any "strong" teams and cannot really compete with GSA or CF Platinum. Pretty sure the u14 AFU girls started the downfall of the mighty CF Plat. Sure they may not have won many games but a lot were 1 goal games. Your ass like most on here must me pretty wide from speaking out of it. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 26, 2021 12:51:24 GMT -5
AFU finished above both UFA and Concorde Premier in 3 girls ECNL age groups (so half). These 3 clubs all average around 8th in standings across all age groups. AFU doesn't have any "strong" teams and cannot really compete with GSA or CF Platinum. Pretty sure the u14 AFU girls started the downfall of the mighty CF Plat. Sure they may not have won many games but a lot were 1 goal games. Your ass like most on here must me pretty wide from speaking out of it. Considering all the drama that surrounded that team the outcome was better than many anticipated. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 26, 2021 13:31:06 GMT -5
I agree completely. I think that ECRL made a huge mistake in not accepting Roswell (particularly the girls) this year. They had the results to back up inclusion. Wasnt ECNL/ECRL that didn’t take Santos. It was Campbell at Gsa (who by ECNL rules) vetoed all new additions to the Metro Atlanta area. Same end result so they go to a different option. Since Santos has the city to get on board with things and that means political thought process I would be surprised if they change back especially if they get a GA offer the following year. Sometimes bridges get burned with stuff like that. It will be interesting to follow |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 26, 2021 14:17:34 GMT -5
AFU finished above both UFA and Concorde Premier in 3 girls ECNL age groups (so half). These 3 clubs all average around 8th in standings across all age groups. AFU doesn't have any "strong" teams and cannot really compete with GSA or CF Platinum. Pretty sure the u14 AFU girls started the downfall of the mighty CF Plat. Sure they may not have won many games but a lot were 1 goal games. Your ass like most on here must me pretty wide from speaking out of it. Not sure what you're talking about? I assume you're a parent from that team, congrats on a win and a tie against Concorde, but the table is pretty clear on quality of teams (by record). From a win/loss standpoint, its NOT a strong team. 1-goal losses are still losses. Grow some thicker skin. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 26, 2021 14:21:00 GMT -5
Pretty sure the u14 AFU girls started the downfall of the mighty CF Plat. Sure they may not have won many games but a lot were 1 goal games. Your ass like most on here must me pretty wide from speaking out of it. Not sure what you're talking about? I assume you're a parent from that team, congrats on a win and a tie against Concorde, but the table is pretty clear on quality of teams (by record). From a win/loss standpoint, its NOT a strong team. 1-goal losses are still losses. Grow some thicker skin. I prefer to call you and everyone else on here for being worthless pieces of shizat. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 26, 2021 14:24:49 GMT -5
Pretty sure the u14 AFU girls started the downfall of the mighty CF Plat. Sure they may not have won many games but a lot were 1 goal games. Your ass like most on here must me pretty wide from speaking out of it. Not sure what you're talking about? I assume you're a parent from that team, congrats on a win and a tie against Concorde, but the table is pretty clear on quality of teams (by record). From a win/loss standpoint, its NOT a strong team. 1-goal losses are still losses. Grow some thicker skin. Not like you to bite back so hard. Everything ok? Personally I do not care at all if 13 year old kids are losing games 1-0 or winning games 1-0 if the games are close then everyone is learning something and at that age, learning more about the game is the only "result" that matters. I get tired of listening to people give people a hard time about bottom of the table U13 and U14 teams. Who cares? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 26, 2021 14:34:53 GMT -5
No worries, I was making an observation about AFU's ECNL teams not generally being on the same level as CF Platinum and GSA. Sure, they'll be competitive in games, its ECNL-level competition, but I'd guess the overall record against CF Platinum and GSA be pretty poor. Its more credit to the level of GSA and Concorde's first teams who are on average top 3rd of the bracket, rather than denigrating AFU. Hell, I said above that AFU/UFA/CF Premier are all basically the same level. The only real difference is that UFA has "strong" teams in the older age groups. Maybe AFU will be stronger next year, but for the past 3 years I've been following, on average the club is bottom 3rd of the bracket (and that's okay). Mirza's 05's were an exception last year IIRC.
The 1-goal losses argument sounds like something the badger would pull out. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Post by soccergurl on May 26, 2021 15:40:22 GMT -5
|cf best club - the end|
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Post by roki12 on May 26, 2021 16:07:44 GMT -5
What’s going on with some of the former TH girls going back to TH? |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 26, 2021 16:16:21 GMT -5
Here comes the biggest whackadoo of the bunch. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 26, 2021 16:17:52 GMT -5
What’s going on with some of the former TH girls going back to TH? Mission accomplished. Transfer to CF run off current players then return to TH. |
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Post by southsoccerfam on May 26, 2021 16:33:10 GMT -5
I know that a few of the "platinum "07 &08s girls are seriously considering their offers that have been made to them at clubs closer to their homes. At some point, even the most dedicated parents are gonna choose to surrender to the ATL traffic and stay closer to home...
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Post by Brinker on May 26, 2021 17:10:59 GMT -5
Other than day or even 1-night trips to neighboring states for regular season games (Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina), overnight travel should be reserved for tournaments and showcases. Boys ECNL SE has done a good job eliminating Florida from the Southeast Conference. ECNL Southeast should be Georgia (AFU, CF x2, GSA, UFA), Alabama (ALFC) and South Carolina (CESA, SC United). There should be a crossover event with ECNL Florida 2 weekends a year (one in Florida, one in Georgia). That would be a reasonable 18-game season with one weekend out of town. Then there would be the required 2-3 showcases. ECNL FLorida should add another Tampa-area and another Miami-area club though.
But here I am thinking logically.
I think you are missing NASA in your list, especially since it is in first place in several boys age groups and top 4 in almost all ... not to mention Top Hat is an elite girls program. ... and I still can’t understand why anyone endorses CF x2 ... their results suggest one team in ECNL is enough. |
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Post by soccergurl on May 26, 2021 17:23:16 GMT -5
Here comes the biggest whackadoo of the bunch. |why the name calling| |my info is fact| |cf better than afu| |u no add to discussion - plz shut up|
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Post by 03fk on May 26, 2021 19:11:24 GMT -5
Here comes the biggest whackadoo of the bunch. |why the name calling| |my info is fact| |cf better than afu| |u no add to discussion - plz shut up|
/CF better then UFA/ /Not better Tophat/ /Top drawer say/ |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 26, 2021 19:39:40 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what new clubs enter ECRL. The ECRL was initially piloted as a pathway for Clubs seeking consideration into ECNL. I believe this is still the case. I would think this is an attractive option for some very good Georgia clubs that may currently be struggling with identity and player pathways. Looking at the SCCL Club results, Roswell has a strong case to be included as an ECRL team for both boys and girls. Ambush has a strong argument to be included for the boys. ECRL is not all that. Our SCCL-CLUB played ECRL teams this past fall and won 4/5 games. ECRL isn't all that. The Atlanta ECRL teams would dominate the Florida teams. |
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Morgan Freeman narration: "THEY ARE") ... it was an attempt to "spin" and intentionally leave out all of information. 
