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Post by ibisduck on Jun 4, 2021 9:11:46 GMT -5
I have not had the opportunity to see my son play against this team but we did go watch the MOBA vs KSA USL game and it got very physical from the opening whistle and the ref lost control of the game and called it in the 68th minute and walked off the field in the middle of an altercation......
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Post by mistercalcio on Jun 4, 2021 12:23:44 GMT -5
I have not had the opportunity to see my son play against this team but we did go watch the MOBA vs KSA USL game and it got very physical from the opening whistle and the ref lost control of the game and called it in the 68th minute and walked off the field in the middle of an altercation...... I’d say you didn’t see anything too out of the ordinary for that type of matchup between those particular clubs. Just so I cover my bases, though, that’s just my opinion and I’m not looking to “disparage any individuals.” Bruno, on the other hand, I’ve heard and seen way too many negative things to even want to get into. |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 5, 2021 20:00:23 GMT -5
Parents/Players be warned.
+KSA is a small club with a questionable budget that leans heavy on the minority (paying parents) to exist and hopefully pay their field dues, league dues and minimal coaching stable on time and regularly.
+The Bruno Factor is a REAL thing
+Overpriced due to parents paying for other players since the club does not cover the expense of club sponsored players thats the majority
+Pi$$ poor and clear lack of a club center control through a board of Leaders, front/back-office planning… Operational planning and execution is highly questionable at best.
+Lack of effective time management - many times over being late for game starts or team departure times for away games
+If not part of the starting 11 or at least top 3 bench relief, plan to sit and play garage minutes if any; opposing teams can capitalize on this aspect by managing in game team strategy to counter KSA’s outpace you till we drop mentality.
Can they train players and have a winning team % season after season, Yes… DO they have limitations and constant distractions off the pitch causing paying parents to depart and lower teams presence worsen .. YES
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Post by soccerlove on Jun 6, 2021 16:57:17 GMT -5
After all the negativities you post on here about KSA, they are still thriving, winning most if not all age group that participate (and 10 - 0 is kinda of a shame but I get it) and gaining favor in the world.
Someone on here said KSA wouldn't survive past 5 years... yet it's been 7 and they are still kicking and screaming <3.
There is no competition for them in GA soccer... it's only fair that they seek higher competition ground.
All clubs in GA fails to develop children. At best you all are great babysitters; coaches, not so much.
You should all be ashamed of yourself for always being so jealous of Bruno's success, his lack of fear and his desire to continue to improve.
KSA has delivered on its promise every single time. even with all the crap you criticize them about.
My children have grown so much with the development provided there. I would recommend this club to everyone!
Instead of criticizing, say something nice for once.
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Post by messindreams on Jun 6, 2021 17:40:24 GMT -5
I have not had the opportunity to see my son play against this team but we did go watch the MOBA vs KSA USL game and it got very physical from the opening whistle and the ref lost control of the game and called it in the 68th minute and walked off the field in the middle of an altercation...... Is this the game you are referring to? I was looking for full game and found this. Bruno seems to be fine IMO. |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 6, 2021 20:57:30 GMT -5
After all the negativities you post on here about KSA, they are still thriving, winning most if not all age group that participate (and 10 - 0 is kinda of a shame but I get it) and gaining favor in the world. Someone on here said KSA wouldn't survive past 5 years... yet it's been 7 and they are still kicking and screaming <3. There is no competition for them in GA soccer... it's only fair that they seek higher competition ground. All clubs in GA fails to develop children. At best you all are great babysitters; coaches, not so much. You should all be ashamed of yourself for always being so jealous of Bruno's success, his lack of fear and his desire to continue to improve. KSA has delivered on its promise every single time. even with all the crap you criticize them about. My children have grown so much with the development provided there. I would recommend this club to everyone! Instead of criticizing, say something nice for once. Any and all negative aspects of KSA is self induced, just start with their leadership incompetence and work your way down to the constant money square on the minority of paying parents |
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Post by flix on Jun 6, 2021 21:14:25 GMT -5
After all the negativities you post on here about KSA, they are still thriving, winning most if not all age group that participate (and 10 - 0 is kinda of a shame but I get it) and gaining favor in the world. Someone on here said KSA wouldn't survive past 5 years... yet it's been 7 and they are still kicking and screaming <3. There is no competition for them in GA soccer... it's only fair that they seek higher competition ground. All clubs in GA fails to develop children. At best you all are great babysitters; coaches, not so much. You should all be ashamed of yourself for always being so jealous of Bruno's success, his lack of fear and his desire to continue to improve. KSA has delivered on its promise every single time. even with all the crap you criticize them about. My children have grown so much with the development provided there. I would recommend this club to everyone! Instead of criticizing, say something nice for once. Any and all negative aspects of KSA is self induced, just start with their leadership incompetence and work your way down to the constant money square on the minority of paying parents Isn’t what you just described all soccer clubs? As far as KSA finding a way to have good players play that may not have been able to play because of lack of funds is wonderful in my opinion. There’s nothing wrong with not having thousands of dollars to play a sport although a few folks on here seem to ridicule it. Funny thing is most of the people who have the funds to pay, their kids wouldn’t be playing if it were not based on ability to pay. These clubs will take anybody if you have the money. |
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Post by rifle on Jun 6, 2021 21:48:25 GMT -5
Any and all negative aspects of KSA is self induced, just start with their leadership incompetence and work your way down to the constant money square on the minority of paying parents Isn’t what you just described all soccer clubs? As far as KSA finding a way to have good players play that may not have been able to play because of lack of funds is wonderful in my opinion. There’s nothing wrong with not having thousands of dollars to play a sport although a few folks on here seem to ridicule it. Funny thing is most of the people who have the funds to pay, their kids wouldn’t be playing if it were not based on ability to pay. These clubs will take anybody if you have the money. It isn’t ALL soccer clubs. But it’s definitely the reality for some who operate with less integrity. When a club tells you the fees, then brings in a bunch of players who can’t pay - then simply assesses the additional cost to the ones who do pay (like it’s fookin Augusta National Country Club)… It’s not right. Whether they win or lose doesn’t change this. |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 6, 2021 22:02:14 GMT -5
After all the negativities you post on here about KSA, they are still thriving, winning most if not all age group that participate (and 10 - 0 is kinda of a shame but I get it) and gaining favor in the world. Someone on here said KSA wouldn't survive past 5 years... yet it's been 7 and they are still kicking and screaming <3. There is no competition for them in GA soccer... it's only fair that they seek higher competition ground. All clubs in GA fails to develop children. At best you all are great babysitters; coaches, not so much. You should all be ashamed of yourself for always being so jealous of Bruno's success, his lack of fear and his desire to continue to improve. KSA has delivered on its promise every single time. even with all the crap you criticize them about. My children have grown so much with the development provided there. I would recommend this club to everyone! Instead of criticizing, say something nice for once. Saying somethang nice in a critizing tune: -Remind us again about KSA losing their homes fields at Bryson Park and being locked out for lack of payment - dispute with the county turned out how? -Remind us again on how there is no competition for them in GA soccer when their presence in Ga soccer in recent years is inconsistent at best let alone teams able to dress the minimum and provide BCs on players... anyone interested in playing 8 v 11 for away games? -Remind us again about the 13U Boys GPL fall season and how they finished with a forfeit and ended up placing 6th out of 9 teams -Remind us again on their relegated C2 KSA 03 Pro-Premier team performance last Fall? 2 forfeits and finishing near bottom in a 11-team bracket in 8th place lovely goal diff of -7 and a 2-2-4 record …is reality ringing a bell to your fable story telling of seeking higher competition? You should all be ashamed of yourself lying when a 30 second fact check of ga soccer website tells a different story... Not sure many ppl knowing of the Bruno factor would agree w/o laughing, being jealous is a realistic consideration. I would recommend this club as a warning to others to stay away and save your money.. This club has a public history of disfunctional leadership in club administrative and financial operations - purely a Cautionary tale of Buyer's remorse .. paying parents will the minority paying the majority, Birth Certifcates optional to some (lol) Any and all negative aspects of KSA is self induced, just start with their leadership incompetence and work your way down to the constant money square on the minority of paying parents |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 6, 2021 22:14:20 GMT -5
Any and all negative aspects of KSA is self induced, just start with their leadership incompetence and work your way down to the constant money square on the minority of paying parents Isn’t what you just described all soccer clubs? As far as KSA finding a way to have good players play that may not have been able to play because of lack of funds is wonderful in my opinion. There’s nothing wrong with not having thousands of dollars to play a sport although a few folks on here seem to ridicule it. Funny thing is most of the people who have the funds to pay, their kids wouldn’t be playing if it were not based on ability to pay. These clubs will take anybody if you have the money. Nothing wrong with sponsoring under privilege players, all clubs provide some fashion of financial support which is wonderful in my opinion, however, when the club like KSA isn’t funding their own sponsorships and then pushing the cost to the minority of paying parents then there’s a possible questions on ethics to consider. Correct, pay to play is common in youth sports... bigger the pocket, better game minutes offered..maybe..maybe not |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 7, 2021 10:44:14 GMT -5
There is no question. KSA has some talent -- and Deedson carried the torch for years. Kid was a special player, hope he's doing well.
But many of the stories are true:
charging different people different fees when playing out of the same park
loosing access to a park
playing older age and or ineligible players -- didn't this most recently happen at a regionals, where they had to forfeit
certain parents picking up the tab for the team and and not being refunded the expenses.
That being said, I love what KSA is trying and does do - offers competitive soccer and training to a population that otherwise can't probably play. Their has to be away to make their model sustainable. For example, UFA would never touch KSA, but imagine adding that pool of players to a club like UFA. Or lets say concorde. Instant depth and competition. I've noticed their players get after it more than almost any other club, the fight is there for sure.
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Post by atv on Jun 7, 2021 11:16:00 GMT -5
Let’s not forget that KSA was essentially a breakaway from GSA. Bruno left taking a couple of GSA’s top teams with him. Now the two clubs have very little in common besides being in each other’s back yard.
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Post by flamengo100 on Jun 7, 2021 12:11:02 GMT -5
Deedson is playing for the Haitian National Team and professionally in Denmark. Haiti is currently playing World Cup qualifying games and play Nicaragua on 6/8 with the game being televised on Telemundo and Paramount Plus. Hopefully, he will get some playing time.
Here is rare video of Deedson #8 and George Bello #22 playing for Ambush U-14 back in 2015 (team in white).
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 7, 2021 12:46:22 GMT -5
I had no idea Deedson was ever at Ambush! was he a guest player for state cup?
That 01 Ambush team also had zyen jones and Zulauf in goal right?
I remember the UFA and GSA teams were strong also.
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Post by flamengo100 on Jun 7, 2021 13:25:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure if he was a guest player or not. I did some google research and did find zyen jones and zulauf on that team. However, I didn't find zyen and deedson at the same time. It looked like Ambush lost to UFA in the semifinals that year and GSA beat UFA in the finals. Those must have been some very good teams.
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Post by papacoach on Jun 10, 2021 7:12:23 GMT -5
Pricing for KSA teams seem to be higher most now.. MLS next pricing is over 4K plus uniform to sign and then travel fee to boot
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 10, 2021 9:11:01 GMT -5
Well said. While it may cause issues for us to wrap our head around all the leagues, yada, yada...the whole point of the numerous alphabet leagues has been to create exposure for more kids, which is a good thing.
I imagine in the past all you had was tournaments and scouting the teams in RPL. Then DA and ECNL come along, create showcases, invite coaches and become a defacto exposure tool. NPL, GA, ECRL, DPL, etc are all trying to vie for that parent $$$ by marketing their exposure to scouts/colleges/etc. It won't end anytime soon.
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Post by messindreams on Jun 10, 2021 10:27:00 GMT -5
Pricing for KSA teams seem to be higher most now.. MLS next pricing is over 4K plus uniform to sign and then travel fee to boot Isn’t MLS Next a 10 month ( fall and spring ) season vs other leagues are 4 month for High School aged kids? Not debating whether that is high price or not… it is expensive but we bleed at every club and every age group unfortunately and yet we like the beating 😉 |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 10, 2021 15:01:36 GMT -5
Heard through the grape vine that KSA may have lost/folded an older age group recently and was fined by GA soccer … assuming this isn’t the first time for either.
MLS next seems to overlap seasons so not sure if that’s the method of madness for 4K plus signing cost… compared to SSA and LSA, KSA commitment fees still leads to the pricy side.
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Post by bogan on Jun 10, 2021 15:06:31 GMT -5
Heard through the grape vine that KSA may have lost/folded an older age group recently and was fined by GA soccer … assuming this isn’t the first time for either. MLS next seems to overlap seasons so not sure if that’s the method of madness for 4K plus signing cost… compared to SSA and LSA, KSA commitment fees still leads to the pricy side. Well, if it’s stated up front-at least you know-asking the (paying) parents for $1,200-$1800 per person for a tournament-ridiculous/unethical. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 10, 2021 15:07:00 GMT -5
Heard through the grape vine that KSA may have lost/folded an older age group recently and was fined by GA soccer … assuming this isn’t the first time for either. MLS next seems to overlap seasons so not sure if that’s the method of madness for 4K plus signing cost… compared to SSA and LSA, KSA commitment fees still leads to the pricy side. Do you have a link to the KSA fees structure? I can make some easy conjectures why its 4K, but will refrain... |
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Post by jkdub1 on Jun 10, 2021 22:04:21 GMT -5
Heard through the grape vine that KSA may have lost/folded an older age group recently and was fined by GA soccer … assuming this isn’t the first time for either. MLS next seems to overlap seasons so not sure if that’s the method of madness for 4K plus signing cost… compared to SSA and LSA, KSA commitment fees still leads to the pricy side. Do you have a link to the KSA fees structure? I can make some easy conjectures why its 4K, but will refrain... |
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Post by atv on Jun 11, 2021 7:00:54 GMT -5
It’s not itemized so hard to tell if that’s just training fees or includes other things like coaches travel.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 11, 2021 9:44:44 GMT -5
You have to assume it includes estimated travel expenses.....Do they typically travel as a team?
If it doesn't include travel expenses, like I didn't say before, it's to _____________________________________.
My back of the envelop calculations are it costs about $180-$230 per kid for Friday to Sunday trip (includes - bus or van, 2 night stay, 2 dinners, 2 lunches, breakfast at hotel, waters etc)
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Post by hawkfan84 on Jun 12, 2021 11:18:41 GMT -5
I have never seen or heard about where any travel or coaches expenses are included in the club fees. Those are all extra.
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Post by papacoach on Jun 19, 2021 20:59:40 GMT -5
Noticed KSA isn’t at Southern regionals but MOBA is.. I believe MOBA lost 1-7 to KSA for the weaken state cup; any insight why KSA passed the torch to MOBA to represent GA in regionals? MOBA won their game today (2-0) at regionals
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Post by bogan on Jun 19, 2021 21:03:42 GMT -5
Noticed KSA isn’t at Southern regionals but MOBA is.. I believe MOBA lost 1-7 to KSA for the weaken state cup; any insight why KSA passed the torch to MOBA to represent GA in regionals? MOBA won their game today (2-0) at regionals Heard they were having trouble fielding teams. Not sure if it was that team but… |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 19, 2021 21:17:05 GMT -5
Any link available for the MLS next playoff bracket/schedule for next week in Texas as yet?
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Post by bogan on Jun 19, 2021 21:21:44 GMT -5
Noticed KSA isn’t at Southern regionals but MOBA is.. I believe MOBA lost 1-7 to KSA for the weaken state cup; any insight why KSA passed the torch to MOBA to represent GA in regionals? MOBA won their game today (2-0) at regionals Heard they were having trouble fielding teams. Not sure if it was that team but… Also want to add that, although I think they the KSA team was a stronger team than the MOBA team, the 7-1 score line was the result of several untimely injuries-I don’t believe MOBA had a single starter available on the back line for that game. |
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Post by papacoach on Jun 19, 2021 21:37:48 GMT -5
Heard the same.. MOBA was limited due to injuries during the final
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