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Post by soccerlegacy on Jul 6, 2021 9:53:15 GMT -5
Wow.. beating up on mexico .. soo impressive You play who's in front of you. Not sure what you're on about, but we all know the USWNT does not shy away from playing the best of the best. I mean Brazil is a top 10, maybe even a top 5 and they trounced them just as easily earlier this year. So to me, it is impressive that they continue to put their heads down, work hard to deliver and just keep churning out win after win especially considering they are on everyone's radar domestically and internationally. The least we can do is support them when they trounce our rivals on the men's side since the USMNT tend to "struggle" with El Tri... p.s. I believe the Women's Mexico team is ranked in the 20s... Hypothetical question: If the USA women's team comprised a 2nd team (or "B" team) of players that don't make the 1st team ("A" team) and had them play international competition... Where do you think they would rank? Top 10? Top 5? Top 3? Just curious... I've always pondered this question myself and thought this was as good a place as any to propose it to everyone else. |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Jul 6, 2021 11:34:30 GMT -5
Do the revenues not set the following year's budgets? I understand a nonprofit is not supposed to generate revenue, but if they don't how in the hell to they plan and forecast for the following year? If they have $1M in revenue can they do the same things/events they would if they have $138M in revenue? It all goes back to the CBA however. Sign a contract, live by the contract. USSF should flatly refuse to do the security-based CBA in the future, instead, giving the men and women the EXACT SAME CBA. Non-profits definitely exist to generate revenue. They just can't have "profit" at the end of the year... which means they have to spend OR invest their revenue. As long as they aren't paying out money to shareholders they are pretty much ok. |
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Post by paterfamilias on Jul 6, 2021 11:54:15 GMT -5
"Non-profit" refers to their taxation status under Federal law and IRS regulations.
A better descriptor is "tax-exempt"
There are no restrictions on the excess of revenue over expenses (profit), unless the entity is a private foundation.
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 15:22:33 GMT -5
Soo back to us women soccer not generating the same revenue as men, having a different CBA and FIFA bonus % payouts are higher for women
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 15:37:06 GMT -5
Wow.. beating up on mexico .. soo impressive You play who's in front of you. Not sure what you're on about, but we all know the USWNT does not shy away from playing the best of the best. I mean Brazil is a top 10, maybe even a top 5 and they trounced them just as easily earlier this year. So to me, it is impressive that they continue to put their heads down, work hard to deliver and just keep churning out win after win especially considering they are on everyone's radar domestically and internationally. The least we can do is support them when they trounce our rivals on the men's side since the USMNT tend to "struggle" with El Tri... p.s. I believe the Women's Mexico team is ranked in the 20s... Your level of excitement for an international friendly win seems to be higher than most essentially considering the Mexican women team isn’t that good.. last 5 games against the US, they only managed to score twice. Remind US again, when was the last Mexico has beaten the women’s team? It’s a friendly match |
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 16:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 6, 2021 18:13:08 GMT -5
You play who's in front of you. Not sure what you're on about, but we all know the USWNT does not shy away from playing the best of the best. I mean Brazil is a top 10, maybe even a top 5 and they trounced them just as easily earlier this year. So to me, it is impressive that they continue to put their heads down, work hard to deliver and just keep churning out win after win especially considering they are on everyone's radar domestically and internationally. The least we can do is support them when they trounce our rivals on the men's side since the USMNT tend to "struggle" with El Tri... p.s. I believe the Women's Mexico team is ranked in the 20s... Your level of excitement for an international friendly win seems to be higher than most essentially considering the Mexican women team isn’t that good.. last 5 games against the US, they only managed to score twice. Remind US again, when was the last Mexico has beaten the women’s team? It’s a friendly match Actually, it was a tune-up match for the Olympics where you try to iron out the kinks before the big dance later this month in Tokyo. Not sure how friendly it was for Mexico getting trounced like that. Me, I root for my teams and I root for them to win "Bigly" regardless of who they play. For the record, Yes, I was and will always be happy to see the USWNT win regardless of who they have in front of them. We must have different definitions of excitement. For me, excitement is being present at a game in the WC. Excitement is watching the finals of an Olympic soccer game. Both of which I've been blessed to experience. Trust me, that's real excitement. IMO your comment was uncalled for and not necessary. If you don't like or want to support the USWNT, that is your God-Given American right, but I'm not going to let you sit there behind your keyboard and try to usurp their successes. What do we say, if yo don't like the show, change the channel. I follow, support and root for the USMNT also, even though they have sometimes caused me to chew on way too many Tums/Rolaids. These ladies have put in the time, effort and sacrifice to be where they are in the very competitive landscape of women's soccer here in the US and all they do is WIN WIN WIN...🏆⚽🏆 |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 6, 2021 18:21:36 GMT -5
You play who's in front of you. Not sure what you're on about, but we all know the USWNT does not shy away from playing the best of the best. I mean Brazil is a top 10, maybe even a top 5 and they trounced them just as easily earlier this year. So to me, it is impressive that they continue to put their heads down, work hard to deliver and just keep churning out win after win especially considering they are on everyone's radar domestically and internationally. The least we can do is support them when they trounce our rivals on the men's side since the USMNT tend to "struggle" with El Tri... p.s. I believe the Women's Mexico team is ranked in the 20s... Hypothetical question: If the USA women's team comprised a 2nd team (or "B" team) of players that don't make the 1st team ("A" team) and had them play international competition... Where do you think they would rank? Top 10? Top 5? Top 3? Just curious... I've always pondered this question myself and thought this was as good a place as any to propose it to everyone else. That is a very interesting question and one that would intrigue me to find out. I know we have a ton of ladies in the US pipeline, waiting their turn to break on to the USWNT. As a player, sometimes it's not always about talent only but about the camaraderie and cohesiveness of a team. Trusting and knowing the nuances of your teammates at times is just as important. It would be a fun experiment to try, but there will be the naysayers who will say the US is only piling on. I look at the USWNT akin to the way U of Alabama is in Football. One of the things that makes Bama so strong is that their "bench players" would likely start on many D1 football teams. Would they always win, nope but they would give you run for your money I think... |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 6, 2021 18:27:47 GMT -5
Glad you can use Google and parse through Wikipedia. I think anyone who has followed the USWNT over the last decade knows that when it comes to the USWNT: |
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 19:47:34 GMT -5
It’s amazing how the internet works.. Google can find video clips too
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Post by soccergurl on Jul 6, 2021 20:40:20 GMT -5
|why you no want support wnt| |me think you no like wnt because they girls| |this safe space okay to admit| |from name is you a real coach or only when you dream|
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 21:35:57 GMT -5
IF ONLY ask Jeeves wasn’t sooo easy to use as a search engine for 2011-2021, the last decade. 2016 summer Olympics lose to Sweden; 5th place finisher 2011 WC gold medal lose to Undersized Japan - major upset 2015 lose to China.. 2012 and 2014 Alarve Cup disappointing finishes - quit attending 2019 she believe cup lose 2017 runnner up at tournament of nations 2011 season that went 13-4-3 2014 season that went 16-5-3, and 2017 rocky year for goals at 12-1-3 Since 1991, team USA has had the most top four finishes in WC so no one is disputing their dominance in a weak field. Any real fan remembers the Tony DiCicco and Anson Dorrance years and the pure class of Mia Hamm but that’s decades ago (86-99) Just maybe, a little more research before pasting Emma stone sing along videos.. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_women%27s_national_soccer_team |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 6, 2021 22:05:08 GMT -5
IF ONLY ask Jeeves wasn’t sooo easy to use as a search engine for 2011-2021, the last decade. 2016 summer Olympics lose to Sweden; 5th place finisher 2011 WC gold medal lose to Undersized Japan - major upset 2015 lose to China.. 2012 and 2014 Alarve Cup disappointing finishes - quit attending 2019 she believe cup lose 2017 runnner up at tournament of nations 2011 season that went 13-4-3 2014 season that went 16-5-3, and 2017 rocky year for goals at 12-1-3 Since 1991, team USA has had the most top four finishes in WC so no one is disputing their dominance in a weak field. Any real fan remembers the Tony DiCicco and Anson Dorrance years and the pure class of Mia Hamm but that’s decades ago (86-99) Just maybe, a little more research before pasting Emma stone sing along videos.. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_women%27s_national_soccer_teamCan you PLEASE take your negativity and GO AWAY!!! We all know they lose sometimes. I love Mia Hamm and Anson and Tony, but the field was weaker then than it is now. The USWNT is a class act on the field. You are letting your feelings about some of them personally make you a hater. Haters gonna hate. Bye bye now. |
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 23:09:07 GMT -5
Facts don’t care about negativity
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Post by papacoach on Jul 6, 2021 23:12:54 GMT -5
No one said anything about feelings did we?? You can can go away if your feelings are getting in the way of facts..
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Post by atv on Jul 7, 2021 9:23:51 GMT -5
USWNT are rock stars. Best in the world without question. We have enough talent in this country to field several international powerhouse squads. That said their fight for equal pay is not grounded in truth.
“U.S. Soccer claimed that allegations made in the documentary by lawyer Jeffrey Kessler, — who represents the players in their equal pay lawsuit against U.S. Soccer — were false. The organization claimed the documentary presented “a concerning level of dishonesty” and “a misleading and inaccurate account of the facts”
On Thursday, U.S. Soccer posted a 17 message-long Twitter thread pushing back against Kessler’s claims.”
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Post by bogan on Jul 7, 2021 9:31:24 GMT -5
“On Thursday, U.S. Soccer posted a 17 message-long Twitter thread pushing back against Kessler’s claims.”
Remember when Twitter was supposed to be brief thoughts/statements?
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Post by footyfan on Jul 7, 2021 9:38:22 GMT -5
Im not sure why I am so shocked at the low grade meats on this butcher board sometimes. I wonder what hurt someone has to suffer in life to make them fester so loudly.
For those who are still responding directly to them, best just leave them for the birds.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 7, 2021 10:00:19 GMT -5
Can you PLEASE take your negativity and GO AWAY!!! We all know they lose sometimes. I love Mia Hamm and Anson and Tony, but the field was weaker then than it is now. The USWNT is a class act on the field. You are letting your feelings about some of them personally make you a hater. Haters gonna hate. Bye bye now. What is it they say at the zoo, don't feed the animals. Don't let him pull you into his cyclical confirmation bias world fueled by anecdotal evidence , where the data miraculously supports an already formed opinion. The bias for the WNT and especially some specific players oozes out of his comments. He tries to balance the scale by bringing up Mia Hamm, because in his mind and in his world, she knew her place, unlike the player whom this entire post is named after(last I checked, the 23 players of the USWNT are suing). It amazes me how folks love America but hate Americans, especially those who use their God-Given American rights to try to right a wrong. I mean, if you don't agree, just change the channel or get back to crunching more anecdotal evidence to support your cause... With that said, many on here have brought up the FIFA % pay, case isn't about that. Some have brought up the CBA, fair/unfair maybe. Others have yet brought up equal pay vs revenues, should not be a decision maker, especially since there is some evidence that the WNT has brought in more $$$ than the men recently. Since both sides are muddying the waters with their own facts, I say let the courts muddle through and get findings of facts for the future of US Soccer. There is also the whole benefits package which I personally think should be addressed. I mean when you are a sales manager for any fortune 500 company, they are not allowed to fly the guys in first class while flying the women in coach. Now that's still separate from their bonuses based off of sales which should be merit based. Both the MNT and WNT work for or play for the USSF. Hotels, planes, food, transportation, training facilities, fields, equipment, per-diem, etc. should be equal and the same. Pay per game should be the same. When both teams win, lose, draw, the funds generated all go into the same pot. There is no US WNT Soccer Federation vs US MNT Soccer Federation, last i checked it's One Nation, One TEAM... Go USA!!! |
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Post by papacoach on Jul 7, 2021 13:57:18 GMT -5
So u saying US women soccer is like a zoo and don’t feed the animals (players)? Hmm..that’s silly 😝 like their equal pay lawsuit
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Post by papacoach on Jul 7, 2021 14:28:50 GMT -5
Read the 32 page judge’s decision and then do your on own research since u don’t believe provided links nor known facts and figures already published over the years.
We can lead a stubborn horse to water and feed but its on them to drink and eat to survive.. knowledge is the same, provide the material and source but IF the misinformed chooses not to be enlightened and educated, they will be left sharing their petting zoo experiences, unsupported opinions, propping up straw men rebuttals distracting from the topic of equal pay and FIFA bonus % payouts.. Do consider facts over feelings next time..
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Post by rifle on Jul 7, 2021 16:57:42 GMT -5
Since you’ve been pleasuring yourself for three pages, I’m gonna give you some privacy.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 7, 2021 17:47:51 GMT -5
Since you’ve been pleasuring yourself for three pages, I’m gonna give you some privacy. Absolutely Brilliant!!! I am going to definitely "borrow" that line for future use... 👏👏👏 |
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Post by atv on Jul 8, 2021 7:19:26 GMT -5
You can never blame someone for trying to make more money. Cindy Cone has indicated US Soccer does not have the funds to match FIFA bonuses and will look at “creative ways” to provide more bonus compensation. Hopefully both sides stay professional and keep in classy.
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Post by papacoach on Jul 8, 2021 19:46:52 GMT -5
Since you’ve been pleasuring yourself for three pages, I’m gonna give you some privacy. No privacy needed.. 3 pages of wet 🧻 provided all the pleasure I needed in educating the misinformed.. Only if I colored my hair, bent a knee, act a fool in social media, make Asian jokes of teammates, be a paid sports entertainer, lose a lawsuit not on public opinion but on facts and figures.. would anyone listen seriously to a nearly 40yr poster then? Only if I wasn’t a millionaire playing under a signed CBA as a sports entertainer dependent upon revenue generated funds and then complain years later after receiving plenty of benefits from it. Only If the FIFA bonus % were equal: equal pots, equal share of winnings.. simple enough.. Only If the men’s and women’s team played by the same age restrictions..would it be pay to play for U23s then? |
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Post by bogan on Jul 8, 2021 19:53:46 GMT -5
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. 🤣
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Post by papacoach on Jul 8, 2021 19:59:49 GMT -5
That’s similar to what the doctor said after my last visit to Thailand 🤪
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Post by rifle on Jul 8, 2021 20:56:01 GMT -5
Since you’ve been pleasuring yourself for three pages, I’m gonna give you some privacy. No privacy needed.. 3 pages of wet 🧻 provided all the pleasure I needed in educating the misinformed.. Only if I colored my hair, bent a knee, act a fool in social media, make Asian jokes of teammates, be a paid sports entertainer, lose a lawsuit not on public opinion but on facts and figures.. would anyone listen seriously to a nearly 40yr poster then? Only if I wasn’t a millionaire playing under a signed CBA as a sports entertainer dependent upon revenue generated funds and then complain years later after receiving plenty of benefits from it. Only If the FIFA bonus % were equal: equal pots, equal share of winnngs.. simple enough.. Only If the men’s and women’s team played by the same age restrictions..would it be pay to play for U23s then? So basically you prefer Megan Rapinoe just be quiet? Good luck with that. |
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Post by papacoach on Jul 10, 2021 11:40:17 GMT -5
While flipping the channel and a private moment:
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Post by footyfan on Jul 10, 2021 13:02:28 GMT -5
Oh my. He's a Ben Shapiro fanboy.
Folks, if it wasn't abundantly clear before, its time to ignore this poor soul altogether and hope he gets the help he needs.
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