Ann K.
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Post by Ann K. on Sept 11, 2021 21:13:47 GMT -5
Has anyone been sent invitations to tryouts yet? Haven’t received any details. Wondering if anyone else has gotten theirs? Maybe they’re coming out on Monday?
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Post by soccerluv on Sept 11, 2021 21:21:52 GMT -5
We received the invitation email on Wednesday. Edit: is it actually an invitation based on performance and likelihood of making ODP, or is it just an invitation based on having us in their system? My daughter tried out a few years ago, but this is the first invitation we have ever received. They did address it to “identified players and families”.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Sept 11, 2021 22:27:26 GMT -5
We received the invitation email on Wednesday. Edit: is it actually an invitation based on performance and likelihood of making ODP, or is it just an invitation based on having us in their system? My daughter tried out a few years ago, but this is the first invitation we have ever received. They did address it to “identified players and families”. FWIW we got it also and she only tried out once like 4 years ago. www.georgiasoccer.org/odp/tryouts/
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Post by soccerluv on Sept 11, 2021 22:33:53 GMT -5
We received the invitation email on Wednesday. Edit: is it actually an invitation based on performance and likelihood of making ODP, or is it just an invitation based on having us in their system? My daughter tried out a few years ago, but this is the first invitation we have ever received. They did address it to “identified players and families”. FWIW we got it also and she only tried out once like 4 years ago. www.georgiasoccer.org/odp/tryouts/That’s what I suspected. My daughter has no interest, but they get you with the “identified players” grab. We won’t be trying out.
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Ann K.
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Post by Ann K. on Sept 11, 2021 22:53:58 GMT -5
We received the invitation email on Wednesday. Edit: is it actually an invitation based on performance and likelihood of making ODP, or is it just an invitation based on having us in their system? My daughter tried out a few years ago, but this is the first invitation we have ever received. They did address it to “identified players and families”. I don’t really get this whole scouting situation. When she was little we just went to ODP tryouts and that was that. We were told by an administrator that she was “vetted” but didn’t receive the email you’re referring to. So confused! We paid a $45 fee to be scouted/tryout. Did you guys?
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Post by soccernoleuk on Sept 12, 2021 9:56:39 GMT -5
As a returning player we received an email about a month ago. We then received another email a few days ago.
Standard tryout fee is $45, which all players interested are supposed to pay. I believe at a minimum they reach out to your club coach prior to tryouts to get an evaluation. If they don't reach out it is probably because someone associated with GA Soccer / ODP was able to take a look. How good this pre-tryout evaluation is, or how thorough, I have no idea.
We plan to attend at least one of the tryout sessions, and most likely be part of the program again this year. However, exactly how much we attend as the year progresses is up in the air.
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Post by soccerfam404 on Sept 13, 2021 10:37:31 GMT -5
Anyone think ODP is worthwhile at u15 boys level for someone on one of larger club’s ECNL teams?
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Post by bogan on Sept 13, 2021 10:46:17 GMT -5
Anyone think ODP is worthwhile at u15 boys level for someone on one of larger club’s ECNL teams? Does your player need extra practice? If so, by all means…
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Post by davidj on Sept 13, 2021 21:32:31 GMT -5
We signed up for tryouts. U12 Boys We went to tryouts August 27th (night 1). Before the end of the evening, they told a group of boys that they’d made it & to expect an email. We received our Congratulations email on Sep 3rd. We got a registration link, clicked it, filled our the Acceptance registration & paid the $225 fee. Next step is ordering the uniform from soccer.com
We are happy to be on board for this new experience.
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Post by soccerdad2021 on Sept 14, 2021 11:52:50 GMT -5
Anyone think ODP is worthwhile at u15 boys level for someone on one of larger club’s ECNL teams? I've always considered ODP as another avenue for my kid to get exposure to other players, coaches and scouts. IMO, development starts at your club and training with ODP enhances that. ODP provides an oppurtunity to be seen. My son played both state league, ecnl and odp in the same year last year. It was at an ODP where he got scouted by an MLS academy. So, I believe ODP is worthwhile from this standpoint. Hope this helps in your decision making. Good luck!
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Post by coffee on Sept 14, 2021 12:40:38 GMT -5
How do ECNL players have time for it? Is it after the fall season? If there’s a scheduling conflict ODP is going to lose that one.
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Post by soccerdad2021 on Sept 14, 2021 15:27:13 GMT -5
How do ECNL players have time for it? Is it after the fall season? If there’s a scheduling conflict ODP is going to lose that one. Other than the tryouts and training, most of the events are during late November - February and June - August. I agree that if there's a conflict, then the ECNL event will prevail.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 15, 2021 14:08:44 GMT -5
How do ECNL players have time for it? Is it after the fall season? If there’s a scheduling conflict ODP is going to lose that one. They don’t that’s why most of us quit or told we shouldn’t continue in it. Ga ODP fired and now wont hire SCCL or USClub coaches so those clubs have told their players to not participate. Going as far as scheduling events and games to conflict with odp. More politics for 14 year olds.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 15, 2021 14:14:18 GMT -5
Georgia soccer should probably stay where they belong, hosting safe video gaming environments.
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Post by atlbuster on Sept 15, 2021 16:23:56 GMT -5
We won't be going back this year, but ODP was valuable for my daughter last season. As a trapped player with limited spring training options, ODP was a nice outlet for full-field training to try to stay sharp while others were playing JV and high school ball.
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 16, 2021 14:52:55 GMT -5
|ODP SUCKS| |ODP waste of time| |no nat'l team call-up 4 ODP|
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Post by BubbleDad on Sept 16, 2021 19:35:22 GMT -5
|ODP SUCKS| |ODP waste of time| |no nat'l team call-up 4 ODP| Amen
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Post by 0507coop23dad on Sept 17, 2021 7:09:31 GMT -5
Funny how a lot of people look for pickup games and in the same breath crap on ODP. 😂 Maybe for the girls it’s a waste of time, but I disagree on the boys side. The last 2 cycles have been their best since before DA. Most are ECNL players that go into ODP knowing what they can get out of it.
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 17, 2021 9:56:04 GMT -5
|pick-up not same as organized chaos| |odp game in tn-sc-fl-nc-al-south-ga| |pick-up not same as organized chaos|
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Post by 0507coop23dad on Sept 17, 2021 10:10:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m trying to understand your point. Players in some states prioritize ODP more than Georgia, some less. Pickup games are great too (as long as they keep away from injury) - I like to see kids organizing them on their own.
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 17, 2021 10:19:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m trying to understand your point. Players in some states prioritize ODP more than Georgia, some less. Pickup games are great too (as long as they keep away from injury) - I like to see kids organizing them on their own. |point simple| |last year 08 ODP shizatshow|
|no care of other state we live in Georgia| |yes pick-up game good|
|ODP SUCKS| |ODP waste of time| |no nat'l team call-up 4 ODP|
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Post by soccerparentx on Sept 17, 2021 11:17:41 GMT -5
ODP would be a valuable experience for [insert type of player or who here]
"No one" is definitely a viable answer.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 17, 2021 11:26:02 GMT -5
Why do people keep talking about the top-end (eg. NT call-up) as though it matters to the majority (97% of players)? In discussions about college soccer mentioning tailoring the college game for the pros, in discussion about ODP talking about USNT.
I think there's are 100 players per age group per sex in ECNL (additional 60 in GAL), maybe 3-4 might get NT invite call ups. Why is that even a discussion point when it affects so few players?
ODP needs to be re-named/re-branded, but it will keep failing due to its exclusivity to non-USYS clubs and inclusivity of inviting basically every USYS player who reaches out to them.
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Post by 0507coop23dad on Sept 17, 2021 12:43:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m trying to understand your point. Players in some states prioritize ODP more than Georgia, some less. Pickup games are great too (as long as they keep away from injury) - I like to see kids organizing them on their own. |point simple| |last year 08 ODP shizatshow|
|no care of other state we live in Georgia| |yes pick-up game good|
|ODP SUCKS| |ODP waste of time| |no nat'l team call-up 4 ODP|
|simple points from a simpleton| |no need for ODP at younger ages when season runs through spring, simpleton| |other states are your opponents, simpleton| |boys pickup games are good, girls pickup games are a rainbow unicorn, simpleton| |your last 3 points are incoherent, simpleton| |are you Dwight Schrute in drag?| |hahahahaha!|
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Post by dadofthree on Sept 17, 2021 13:17:00 GMT -5
While it seems like many hate ODP, we have found it to be a good thing for both of my soccer girls. The main thing is that at least the higher ages for girls have been coached by college coaches (04-05 had Mercers assistant coach and Emanual Colleges head coach last year) for the last few years and when or if they go to the region camp there are college coaches there. As an example our D1 daughters coach was and is an odp coach from another state and one of the first times he really got to see her play is at one of the sub regionals in NC and kept up with her and now she plays for him. My ECNL daughter met and was invited to a D2 school that she really likes based on the assistant coach watching her in TN several months ago. The games are a little lower in my opinion (as most seem to feel) than ECNL/GA but it's still touches, and still learning the game and from what I have learned having two daughters (older daughter plays lacrosse) playing in college is that developing relationships with coaches is a big thing if you want to play at the next level. ODP helps with the relationships.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 17, 2021 13:19:25 GMT -5
|point simple| |last year 08 ODP shizatshow|
|no care of other state we live in Georgia| |yes pick-up game good|
|ODP SUCKS| |ODP waste of time| |no nat'l team call-up 4 ODP|
|simple points from a simpleton| |no need for ODP at younger ages when season runs through spring, simpleton| |other states are your opponents, simpleton| |boys pickup games are good, girls pickup games are a rainbow unicorn, simpleton| |your last 3 points are incoherent, simpleton| |are you Dwight Schrute in drag?| |hahahahaha!| I think both of you have good points. My thoughts: 1) One age group being a nightmare does not necessarily reflect on all age groups. Different coaches for different ages. 2) agree it is not the same as a pick up game which encourages creativity in no consequences environment 3) also agree hard to find pick up games where girls are comfortable/ welcome 4) having a spring season does not necessarily mean ODP is not helpful as many kids get exposure to different styles of coaching and may play other positions 5) I agree national team call ups are irrelevant to most odp players 6) what other states do with ODP has some bearing on the experience in Georgia but not that much bearing regardless if they are opponents (that is the some bearing). Still have to train and that is where the most time is spent 7) whether it sucks is highly subjective. I know many people on both sides of that argument.
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Post by ball2futbol on Sept 17, 2021 15:14:37 GMT -5
Like anything else, ODP is all about setting the right expectations.
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 17, 2021 16:01:42 GMT -5
|point simple| |last year 08 ODP shizatshow|
|no care of other state we live in Georgia| |yes pick-up game good|
|ODP SUCKS| |ODP waste of time| |no nat'l team call-up 4 ODP|
|simple points from a simpleton| |no need for ODP at younger ages when season runs through spring, simpleton| |other states are your opponents, simpleton| |boys pickup games are good, girls pickup games are a rainbow unicorn, simpleton| |your last 3 points are incoherent, simpleton| |are you Dwight Schrute in drag?| |hahahahaha!| |y name calling| |u have ur opinion| |me have my opinion| |dwight funny but u know he fictional| |y u laff at own joke|
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Post by soccernotfootball on Sept 17, 2021 16:21:03 GMT -5
Seems there's too much political nonsense for it to be an effective program. Knowing players that were turned away versus players that ODP actually carried makes it look comical. Also, hearing from families of top/quality players that have had enough and are walking away so that will make it even more worthless.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 17, 2021 16:46:41 GMT -5
|simple points from a simpleton| |no need for ODP at younger ages when season runs through spring, simpleton| |other states are your opponents, simpleton| |boys pickup games are good, girls pickup games are a rainbow unicorn, simpleton| |your last 3 points are incoherent, simpleton| |are you Dwight Schrute in drag?| |hahahahaha!| I think both of you have good points. My thoughts: 1) One age group being a nightmare does not necessarily reflect on all age groups. Different coaches for different ages. 2) agree it is not the same as a pick up game which encourages creativity in no consequences environment 3) also agree hard to find pick up games where girls are comfortable/ welcome 4) having a spring season does not necessarily mean ODP is not helpful as many kids get exposure to different styles of coaching and may play other positions 5) I agree national team call ups are irrelevant to most odp players 6) what other states do with ODP has some bearing on the experience in Georgia but not that much bearing regardless if they are opponents (that is the some bearing). Still have to train and that is where the most time is spent 7) whether it sucks is highly subjective. I know many people on both sides of that argument. Well said and better yet, well stated. While I agree like most of you SoccerGurl's diction gives me a headache at times, I too agree that both have valid points from different perspectives. Let's not vilify each other or worse yet call each other names. I get if someone comes after you, but I say ignore the noise, share your truths and let the forum decide whom they'd rather believe and/or follow. Thanks for your thoughts...
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