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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 15, 2021 19:23:34 GMT -5
Offered identical contract, again, but it's a publicity stunt.
The United States Women's National Team Players Association (USWNTPA) on Wednesday labeled the U.S. Soccer Federation's offer of identical contract proposals for both the men's and women's teams as nothing more than a publicity stunt.
So do they want to be more equal than the men? What's the strategy here? Better take a deal now. The way sports is going, the next WWC team will be filled with males who have 'transitioned' to the WNT.
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Post by mightydawg on Sept 15, 2021 19:34:40 GMT -5
Everyone knows the men would never agree to such a deal so it puts the two teams against one another. Also, men and women have different salary structure and benefits so one the unions will have to accept a radically different agreement than what they currently have, most likely the women.
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Post by rifle on Sept 15, 2021 20:29:36 GMT -5
No one? You’re grasping at strawmen.
..When your highest league evaporates every couple years, you are smart to take a deal with more security.
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 15, 2021 21:40:09 GMT -5
No one? You’re grasping at strawmen. ..When your highest league evaporates every couple years, you are smart to take a deal with more security. Ok - why significantly fewer people than before like the USWNT. Whatever deal they make, you know they will be complaining about it inside of 18 months. |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 15, 2021 22:50:03 GMT -5
Yeah USSoccer really screwing the pooch here. Offering both groups what they offered the women back like 5 years ago means massive pay cuts for the mens side. Good luck with that, especially didn’t the mens side already come out and say the women deserved to be paid more then the men due to their success and the mens team being so awful.
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Post by footyfan on Sept 16, 2021 4:01:23 GMT -5
Same people that hated/liked them before hate/like them now. Its all a rorschach test. I did see a group of USSF supporters/historians upset that US Soccer comms replied in a petty manner to US women's union accusation.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 5:22:18 GMT -5
Yeah USSoccer really screwing the pooch here. Offering both groups what they offered the women back like 5 years ago means massive pay cuts for the mens side. Good luck with that, especially didn’t the mens side already come out and say the women deserved to be paid more then the men due to their success and the mens team being so awful. That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. |
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Post by rifle on Sept 16, 2021 7:21:12 GMT -5
Yeah USSoccer really screwing the pooch here. Offering both groups what they offered the women back like 5 years ago means massive pay cuts for the mens side. Good luck with that, especially didn’t the mens side already come out and say the women deserved to be paid more then the men due to their success and the mens team being so awful. That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. What is “wokeism”? |
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Post by bogan on Sept 16, 2021 7:45:18 GMT -5
There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking' their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly saying, "hooray for our side"
It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
We better stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
We better stop
Now, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
We better stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?
-Buffalo Springfield
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Post by bogan on Sept 16, 2021 7:57:56 GMT -5
I think both the proposal by USSF and counter proposal by the USWNT are publicity stunts to garner support for their individual positions.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 8:19:32 GMT -5
That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. What is “wokeism”? Whatever "woke" topic dujour the crazy social justice warrior types are fighting for today. It changes day to day, and gets increasingly more crazy at every iteration and every topic. I saw some woke liberal teacher yesterday post a video that PBIS (good behavior standards in school such as sitting in your desk, keeping quiet, paying attention to the teacher, etc...) is now white supremacy as well. I can't make this stuff up either. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Sept 16, 2021 8:33:31 GMT -5
Yeah USSoccer really screwing the pooch here. Offering both groups what they offered the women back like 5 years ago means massive pay cuts for the mens side. Good luck with that, especially didn’t the mens side already come out and say the women deserved to be paid more then the men due to their success and the mens team being so awful. That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. Really wish I could help you find the young lady that broke your heart many many many years ago. Or this could be a classic case of “mommy issues” idk |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 9:46:55 GMT -5
That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. Really wish I could help you find the young lady that broke your heart many many many years ago. Or this could be a classic case of “mommy issues” idk So instead of debating the topic at hand and finding flaws in my argument or proof that anything is wrong in my statements (did you see how many liked my post by the way?) you are just going to try to throw insults instead? Typical reaction and tactic when a person that can't debate or find any flaw in someone else's talking points. Bless your heart. If you want to debate the subject and tell me where I'm flawed in any of what I wrote then please do so, otherwise you just look like a troll that has no leg to stand on. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Sept 16, 2021 10:28:07 GMT -5
Someone using the term "wokeism" is not looking for a debate. Flawed
Congrats on the likes thou.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 11:26:17 GMT -5
Someone using the term "wokeism" is not looking for a debate. Flawed Congrats on the likes thou. Also funny when the people that used the term woke can't use it anymore because it has negative connotations attached to it, but then get mad when people use it in a negative connotation. See also the words: liberal, progressive, socialists, communists, etc.... I can debate just fine even if I use a term some people love in a negative way. It is you that chose to insult rather than debate. As I said before bless your heart. |
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Post by rifle on Sept 16, 2021 11:56:35 GMT -5
Whatever "woke" topic dujour the crazy social justice warrior types are fighting for today. It changes day to day, and gets increasingly more crazy at every iteration and every topic. I saw some woke liberal teacher yesterday post a video that PBIS (good behavior standards in school such as sitting in your desk, keeping quiet, paying attention to the teacher, etc...) is now white supremacy as well. I can't make this stuff up either. Let me ask another question: Are you against social justice? Despite the fact that some people absolutely do amplify their own problems, a lot of people face undeniable hardships based only on their skin color, religion, lack of parents, their address, gender.. a lot of things. The unfair, unnecessary hardships are real even if you don’t want it to be discussed (or taught in school). I grew up telling jokes that I’m ashamed of today.. but I’m thankful that I lived and learned - basically “woke up” and grew out of [some of] my ignorance. I know a lot of people who could stand to do the same so I try to speak up sometimes. I pick my battles because I know some folks don’t want to hear it but some appreciate other perspectives. |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 16, 2021 11:57:04 GMT -5
Yeah USSoccer really screwing the pooch here. Offering both groups what they offered the women back like 5 years ago means massive pay cuts for the mens side. Good luck with that, especially didn’t the mens side already come out and say the women deserved to be paid more then the men due to their success and the mens team being so awful. That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. This isn’t a commission based job this is everyone doing their jobs for the better of USSoccer. This is a NT program, not a professional private owned business/club. Both NTs are the same thing and do the same job for USSoccer and the USA. They play games, promote the sport and try to bring World Cup, Olympic medals and other trophies to the USA. NOT MAKE MONEY. This is entirely the USSF’s fault as that old boys club at the top levels are getting paid enormous contracts that aren’t deserved instead of paying the females. Lack of money isn’t the issue, it’s the top level executives thinking they deserve multimillion dollar contracts. The National Teams are not businesses. Just like the USPS, it’s not a business and can’t be treated like one as they are both essentially needed for what they do. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 16, 2021 12:12:53 GMT -5
rifle said “ Let me ask another question: Are you against social justice?” Most would say “of course not.” But ask them to define social justice and you will get a myriad of answers. Same when politicians ask “do you want a strong military? Should we be tough on crime? Do you want a secure border? Just an observation. Peace.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 13:50:52 GMT -5
Whatever "woke" topic dujour the crazy social justice warrior types are fighting for today. It changes day to day, and gets increasingly more crazy at every iteration and every topic. I saw some woke liberal teacher yesterday post a video that PBIS (good behavior standards in school such as sitting in your desk, keeping quiet, paying attention to the teacher, etc...) is now white supremacy as well. I can't make this stuff up either. Let me ask another question: Are you against social justice? Despite the fact that some people absolutely do amplify their own problems, a lot of people face undeniable hardships based only on their skin color, religion, lack of parents, their address, gender.. a lot of things. The unfair, unnecessary hardships are real even if you don’t want it to be discussed (or taught in school). I grew up telling jokes that I’m ashamed of today.. but I’m thankful that I lived and learned - basically “woke up” and grew out of [some of] my ignorance. I know a lot of people who could stand to do the same so I try to speak up sometimes. I pick my battles because I know some folks don’t want to hear it but some appreciate other perspectives. No I have no issues with people fighting for the same rights and privileges as all Americans should have. Are there bad people out there that try to hold people down? Sure, but ultimately it isn't some big system made to keep people down as the social justice warriors and as Critical Race Theory tries to teach. Those concepts are B.S. Punish the few people that can truly be shown they held down people and use legitimate evidence to prove it not cockamamie new theories that just shifts the blame for people's problems on someone else or some system. We also have to remember in these rights people fight for it needs to be rights or both ideological sides. Religious liberty is part of our constitution, but there are wokes that try to stifle religious liberty any time they can as a vendetta. To the wokes its their way or the highway. If you don't agree in every single thing they say, then you will be made to care or you will be cancelled. That is not a way to win arguments or hearts and minds. The wokes will figure that out eventually as they go further down the rabbit hole. I have always subscribed to the live and let live philosophy. Everything is not racist or racism. Everything isn't the system keeping you down (as I don't believe there is a big system to keep people down to begin with). Everyone doesn't need to keep inventing reasons to be mad at something, and people don't need to be cancelled every time a mistake is made or worse when no mistake or bad thing happens yet because of the "wokes" the person gets cancelled anyway. What this country has become due to PC BS that should have never been an issue to begin with is just crazy. It will backfire. Liberal minded folks always take it too far because there is no satisfaction with them because their beliefs are controlled by their emotions and not logic. The majority of the country will eventually reject this crap as the wokes keep going further and further down the rabbit hole with crazy ideas and theories. |
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 16, 2021 14:17:39 GMT -5
Yeah USSoccer really screwing the pooch here. Offering both groups what they offered the women back like 5 years ago means massive pay cuts for the mens side. Good luck with that, especially didn’t the mens side already come out and say the women deserved to be paid more then the men due to their success and the mens team being so awful. That is hilarious man and stinks of someone that doesn't know basic economics. Women should get paid an equal % as the men based on what the women's team brings in as revenue. It will never be dollar for dollar the same at least not in my lifetime. Dollar for dollar the same means that FIFA and the people that sponsor the world cup will have to put in equal prize money for women's tournaments such as the WWC which will never happen because money generated for these sponsors is not equivalent to what gets put into the men's tournaments (eye balls on TV, ad revenue, etc....). This is not USSF's fault. So the only way they make dollar to dollar the same as men if this isn't going to happen is socialism or confiscation of wealth from the men's team as a subsidy (aka socialism). This is just basic economics 101 that I guess so many don't seem to understand anymore. This is exactly like the WNBA vs NBA situation as well. Those women that play in the WNBA will never make the same as the players in the NBA because the WNBA does not generate as much revenue. Women's sports in general do not bring in the same revenue (most non-professional leagues run in the red...) as men's teams. It is what it is, but there was a reason the Judge threw out their lawsuit. This is once again nothing but a PR stunt by the USWNT and players with liberal/woke media fine with carrying the water of misstatements and lies. You do realize that in the women's contract they were getting paid a higher % of the prize pool of tournaments than the men were with their prize pool right? I think the men should sue for unfair treatment and ask for the same % of prize money as the women got in their last contract. Of course they would never do that as the media would not cover them in good light like they do the USWNT that is lying and misstating the issue. No I haven't watched a UWSNT in a year or two, mainly due to the wokeism and the lawsuit. I know plenty of people of all political ideologies and races that feel the same way and won't watch as well. Yes I did watch them in the last world cup and many other friendly games before even more so than the men at the time due to the men performing so badly. |have vision of slickdaddy96 foamin at the mouf itching to give politically laced response| |
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Post by mistergrinch on Sept 16, 2021 14:46:28 GMT -5
Somebody is off their meds again.
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Post by ball2futbol on Sept 16, 2021 14:53:47 GMT -5
Let me ask another question: Are you against social justice? Despite the fact that some people absolutely do amplify their own problems, a lot of people face undeniable hardships based only on their skin color, religion, lack of parents, their address, gender.. a lot of things. The unfair, unnecessary hardships are real even if you don’t want it to be discussed (or taught in school). I grew up telling jokes that I’m ashamed of today.. but I’m thankful that I lived and learned - basically “woke up” and grew out of [some of] my ignorance. I know a lot of people who could stand to do the same so I try to speak up sometimes. I pick my battles because I know some folks don’t want to hear it but some appreciate other perspectives. No I have no issues with people fighting for the same rights and privileges as all Americans should have. Are there bad people out there that try to hold people down? Sure, but ultimately it isn't some big system made to keep people down as the social justice warriors and as Critical Race Theory tries to teach. Those concepts are B.S. Punish the few people that can truly be shown they held down people and use legitimate evidence to prove it not cockamamie new theories that just shifts the blame for people's problems on someone else or some system. We also have to remember in these rights people fight for it needs to be rights or both ideological sides. Religious liberty is part of our constitution, but there are wokes that try to stifle religious liberty any time they can as a vendetta. To the wokes its their way or the highway. If you don't agree in every single thing they say, then you will be made to care or you will be cancelled. That is not a way to win arguments or hearts and minds. The wokes will figure that out eventually as they go further down the rabbit hole. I have always subscribed to the live and let live philosophy. Everything is not racist or racism. Everything isn't the system keeping you down (as I don't believe there is a big system to keep people down to begin with). Everyone doesn't need to keep inventing reasons to be mad at something, and people don't need to be cancelled every time a mistake is made or worse when no mistake or bad thing happens yet because of the "wokes" the person gets cancelled anyway. What this country has become due to PC BS that should have never been an issue to begin with is just crazy. It will backfire. Liberal minded folks always take it too far because there is no satisfaction with them because their beliefs are controlled by their emotions and not logic. The majority of the country will eventually reject this crap as the wokes keep going further and further down the rabbit hole with crazy ideas and theories. I think you copied and pasted this message to the wrong blog. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Sept 16, 2021 14:55:51 GMT -5
Btw exactly which park/club do you ref for again?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 15:21:55 GMT -5
Somebody is off their meds again. Yeah SoccerGurl comes and goes like that sometimes....  |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 15:22:47 GMT -5
No I have no issues with people fighting for the same rights and privileges as all Americans should have. Are there bad people out there that try to hold people down? Sure, but ultimately it isn't some big system made to keep people down as the social justice warriors and as Critical Race Theory tries to teach. Those concepts are B.S. Punish the few people that can truly be shown they held down people and use legitimate evidence to prove it not cockamamie new theories that just shifts the blame for people's problems on someone else or some system. We also have to remember in these rights people fight for it needs to be rights or both ideological sides. Religious liberty is part of our constitution, but there are wokes that try to stifle religious liberty any time they can as a vendetta. To the wokes its their way or the highway. If you don't agree in every single thing they say, then you will be made to care or you will be cancelled. That is not a way to win arguments or hearts and minds. The wokes will figure that out eventually as they go further down the rabbit hole. I have always subscribed to the live and let live philosophy. Everything is not racist or racism. Everything isn't the system keeping you down (as I don't believe there is a big system to keep people down to begin with). Everyone doesn't need to keep inventing reasons to be mad at something, and people don't need to be cancelled every time a mistake is made or worse when no mistake or bad thing happens yet because of the "wokes" the person gets cancelled anyway. What this country has become due to PC BS that should have never been an issue to begin with is just crazy. It will backfire. Liberal minded folks always take it too far because there is no satisfaction with them because their beliefs are controlled by their emotions and not logic. The majority of the country will eventually reject this crap as the wokes keep going further and further down the rabbit hole with crazy ideas and theories. I think you copied and pasted this message to the wrong blog. He asked as question and I answered. Just because you don't agree once again you just try to make some cheap shot. You have added nothing of substance to any reply you have made. At least I made points even if you don't agree with them. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 16, 2021 15:24:20 GMT -5
Btw exactly which park/club do you ref for again? Another method to try to shut people up. Trying to dox and/or cancel them. How many tactics you gonna use against me? Are you the random that wanted my full info a few months back that just used a fake name to private message me. Laughable the people in here trying to cancel/dox and or shame people for opinions they don't agree in. Good luck with that guys... |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 16, 2021 15:27:46 GMT -5
Close, its not the same job though.
If the women played in the men's league, it would indeed be the same job.
They need to fight the discrimination keeping women's teams from playing in the men's world cup. IMO this would fix all the issues.
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Post by justwatching on Sept 16, 2021 16:16:51 GMT -5
Let me ask another question: Are you against social justice? Despite the fact that some people absolutely do amplify their own problems, a lot of people face undeniable hardships based only on their skin color, religion, lack of parents, their address, gender.. a lot of things. The unfair, unnecessary hardships are real even if you don’t want it to be discussed (or taught in school). I grew up telling jokes that I’m ashamed of today.. but I’m thankful that I lived and learned - basically “woke up” and grew out of [some of] my ignorance. I know a lot of people who could stand to do the same so I try to speak up sometimes. I pick my battles because I know some folks don’t want to hear it but some appreciate other perspectives. No I have no issues with people fighting for the same rights and privileges as all Americans should have. Are there bad people out there that try to hold people down? Sure, but ultimately it isn't some big system made to keep people down as the social justice warriors and as Critical Race Theory tries to teach. Those concepts are B.S. Punish the few people that can truly be shown they held down people and use legitimate evidence to prove it not cockamamie new theories that just shifts the blame for people's problems on someone else or some system. We also have to remember in these rights people fight for it needs to be rights or both ideological sides. Religious liberty is part of our constitution, but there are wokes that try to stifle religious liberty any time they can as a vendetta. To the wokes its their way or the highway. If you don't agree in every single thing they say, then you will be made to care or you will be cancelled. That is not a way to win arguments or hearts and minds. The wokes will figure that out eventually as they go further down the rabbit hole. I have always subscribed to the live and let live philosophy. Everything is not racist or racism. Everything isn't the system keeping you down (as I don't believe there is a big system to keep people down to begin with). Everyone doesn't need to keep inventing reasons to be mad at something, and people don't need to be cancelled every time a mistake is made or worse when no mistake or bad thing happens yet because of the "wokes" the person gets cancelled anyway. What this country has become due to PC BS that should have never been an issue to begin with is just crazy. It will backfire. Liberal minded folks always take it too far because there is no satisfaction with them because their beliefs are controlled by their emotions and not logic. The majority of the country will eventually reject this crap as the wokes keep going further and further down the rabbit hole with crazy ideas and theories. Not looking for a debate but I'm actually interested in hearing your perspective if you think things like redlining, segregation of schools, racial discrimination in mortgage lending, disparity in criminal sentences, bias in policing, etc. are not systemic issues negatively affecting black people in this country? Obviously, I have my own opinion about this and it is very clear to me that these "systems" are impactful to that group of people but I am interested in the thoughts of a person where this is not the case in your mind. Why/how do you see these practices? Are they myths? Not impactful? Happened a long time ago and not relevant anymore? |
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Post by flix on Sept 16, 2021 16:48:20 GMT -5
No I have no issues with people fighting for the same rights and privileges as all Americans should have. Are there bad people out there that try to hold people down? Sure, but ultimately it isn't some big system made to keep people down as the social justice warriors and as Critical Race Theory tries to teach. Those concepts are B.S. Punish the few people that can truly be shown they held down people and use legitimate evidence to prove it not cockamamie new theories that just shifts the blame for people's problems on someone else or some system. We also have to remember in these rights people fight for it needs to be rights or both ideological sides. Religious liberty is part of our constitution, but there are wokes that try to stifle religious liberty any time they can as a vendetta. To the wokes its their way or the highway. If you don't agree in every single thing they say, then you will be made to care or you will be cancelled. That is not a way to win arguments or hearts and minds. The wokes will figure that out eventually as they go further down the rabbit hole. I have always subscribed to the live and let live philosophy. Everything is not racist or racism. Everything isn't the system keeping you down (as I don't believe there is a big system to keep people down to begin with). Everyone doesn't need to keep inventing reasons to be mad at something, and people don't need to be cancelled every time a mistake is made or worse when no mistake or bad thing happens yet because of the "wokes" the person gets cancelled anyway. What this country has become due to PC BS that should have never been an issue to begin with is just crazy. It will backfire. Liberal minded folks always take it too far because there is no satisfaction with them because their beliefs are controlled by their emotions and not logic. The majority of the country will eventually reject this crap as the wokes keep going further and further down the rabbit hole with crazy ideas and theories. Not looking for a debate but I'm actually interested in hearing your perspective if you think things like redlining, segregation of schools, racial discrimination in mortgage lending, disparity in criminal sentences, bias in policing, etc. are not systemic issues negatively affecting black people in this country? Obviously, I have my own opinion about this and it is very clear to me that these "systems" are impactful to that group of people but I am interested in the thoughts of a person where this is not the case in your mind. Why/how do you see these practices? Are they myths? Not impactful? Happened a long time ago and not relevant anymore? I was waiting for someone to turn a gender issue into a race issue once again on a soccer forum and I was not let down. Is this the Georgia Political Forum? |
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Post by rifle on Sept 16, 2021 16:51:36 GMT -5
Let me ask another question: Are you against social justice? Despite the fact that some people absolutely do amplify their own problems, a lot of people face undeniable hardships based only on their skin color, religion, lack of parents, their address, gender.. a lot of things. The unfair, unnecessary hardships are real even if you don’t want it to be discussed (or taught in school). I grew up telling jokes that I’m ashamed of today.. but I’m thankful that I lived and learned - basically “woke up” and grew out of [some of] my ignorance. I know a lot of people who could stand to do the same so I try to speak up sometimes. I pick my battles because I know some folks don’t want to hear it but some appreciate other perspectives. No I have no issues with people fighting for the same rights and privileges as all Americans should have. Are there bad people out there that try to hold people down? Sure, but ultimately it isn't some big system made to keep people down as the social justice warriors and as Critical Race Theory tries to teach. Those concepts are B.S. Punish the few people that can truly be shown they held down people and use legitimate evidence to prove it not cockamamie new theories that just shifts the blame for people's problems on someone else or some system. We also have to remember in these rights people fight for it needs to be rights or both ideological sides. Religious liberty is part of our constitution, but there are wokes that try to stifle religious liberty any time they can as a vendetta. To the wokes its their way or the highway. If you don't agree in every single thing they say, then you will be made to care or you will be cancelled. That is not a way to win arguments or hearts and minds. The wokes will figure that out eventually as they go further down the rabbit hole. I have always subscribed to the live and let live philosophy. Everything is not racist or racism. Everything isn't the system keeping you down (as I don't believe there is a big system to keep people down to begin with). Everyone doesn't need to keep inventing reasons to be mad at something, and people don't need to be cancelled every time a mistake is made or worse when no mistake or bad thing happens yet because of the "wokes" the person gets cancelled anyway. What this country has become due to PC BS that should have never been an issue to begin with is just crazy. It will backfire. Liberal minded folks always take it too far because there is no satisfaction with them because their beliefs are controlled by their emotions and not logic. The majority of the country will eventually reject this crap as the wokes keep going further and further down the rabbit hole with crazy ideas and theories. We have more in common than not. |
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