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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 1, 2022 15:32:29 GMT -5
Hopefully there is more to the story, but on the surface doesn't look good.
Hope, you have to do better.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 1, 2022 16:46:22 GMT -5
This is why I take everything she says or does with a grain of salt. Between the domestic abuse and stuff like this . . .
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Post by rifle on Apr 1, 2022 17:25:21 GMT -5
Arrested at Walmart for DUI. Dummy.
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Post by bogan on Apr 1, 2022 18:21:20 GMT -5
Yeah…she may just have a problem. Hope she gets the help she needs before she hurts herself or others.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Apr 1, 2022 21:35:44 GMT -5
She had her kids in the car as well which makes it even worse
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Post by Keeper on Apr 2, 2022 14:21:21 GMT -5
She was parked in a parking lot, the car was running for the ac and electronics and anyone with kids would understand this. She refused a breathalyzer as most would and when they drew blood she was deemed impaired. Mind you she wasn’t driving but just sitting in a parking lot waiting.
The person who should be arrested is the Karen who couldn’t mind her business and had to call the cops on a family sitting in the van in the parking lot.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 2, 2022 15:03:08 GMT -5
She was parked in a parking lot, the car was running for the ac and electronics and anyone with kids would understand this. She refused a breathalyzer as most would and when they drew blood she was deemed impaired. Mind you she wasn’t driving but just sitting in a parking lot waiting. The person who should be arrested is the Karen who couldn’t mind her business and had to call the cops on a family sitting in the van in the parking lot. So she wasn't passed out behind the wheel? www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usaw/story/4631657/former-uswnt-goalkeeper-hope-solo-arrested-on-dwichild-abuse-chargesMaybe there's more to the story, but the details out so far don't sound good. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 2, 2022 21:16:11 GMT -5
She was parked in a parking lot, the car was running for the ac and electronics and anyone with kids would understand this. She refused a breathalyzer as most would and when they drew blood she was deemed impaired. Mind you she wasn’t driving but just sitting in a parking lot waiting. The person who should be arrested is the Karen who couldn’t mind her business and had to call the cops on a family sitting in the van in the parking lot. Was the car in gear or in park? Big difference. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Apr 2, 2022 22:49:15 GMT -5
So a couple of things here. I hope that if anyone sees me passed out behind the wheel of a running car (parked) with my 2 year olds in the back seat that they are banging on the window and if i'm not responding call the police asap. If you'd do it seeing a dog in the back seat certainly you're doing it if you see 2 year olds there. While I hope the person went to the window to see if she was ok somewhere in the hour of time that passed prior to calling, if she really was impaired it doesn't matter if she was driving or not that's a DUI. Maybe she had some kind of health episode and the truth will come out and she is innocent, but I really hope for her sake she wasn't just sleeping it off with her kids in the car. www.fightduicharges.com/blog/getting-a-dui-while-parked/ |
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Post by flix on Apr 3, 2022 8:09:24 GMT -5
She was parked in a parking lot, the car was running for the ac and electronics and anyone with kids would understand this. She refused a breathalyzer as most would and when they drew blood she was deemed impaired. Mind you she wasn’t driving but just sitting in a parking lot waiting. The person who should be arrested is the Karen who couldn’t mind her business and had to call the cops on a family sitting in the van in the parking lot. Was the car in gear or in park? Big difference. Not really a big difference. You can get a DUI just sitting in the car without the keys in the ignition & car is in park. I’ve seen numerous videos of parents passed out from drug use/ prescription pills and their kids are just chilling or crying in the backseat.so this kinda sounds like the same scenario. That’s very strange that someone would even try to justify the facts in this one as it’s putting your own children in danger. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 3, 2022 8:35:07 GMT -5
So a couple of things here. I hope that if anyone sees me passed out behind the wheel of a running car (parked) with my 2 year olds in the back seat that they are banging on the window and if i'm not responding call the police asap. If you'd do it seeing a dog in the back seat certainly you're doing it if you see 2 year olds there. While I hope the person went to the window to see if she was ok somewhere in the hour of time that passed prior to calling, if she really was impaired it doesn't matter if she was driving or not that's a DUI. Maybe she had some kind of health episode and the truth will come out and she is innocent, but I really hope for her sake she wasn't just sleeping it off with her kids in the car. www.fightduicharges.com/blog/getting-a-dui-while-parked/Definitely not a "Karen" if you call for help when someone is passed out in a parked car. Could have been a seizure, an OD, a cardiac episode or many other things. That person is not a "Karen" for calling the cops. They are a considerate person whether the kids were in the car or not. Agree 100% with the above. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 3, 2022 11:36:50 GMT -5
Was the car in gear or in park? Big difference. Not really a big difference. You can get a DUI just sitting in the car without the keys in the ignition & car is in park. I’ve seen numerous videos of parents passed out from drug use/ prescription pills and their kids are just chilling or crying in the backseat.so this kinda sounds like the same scenario. That’s very strange that someone would even try to justify the facts in this one as it’s putting your own children in danger. You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… |
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Post by bogan on Apr 3, 2022 11:49:03 GMT -5
Not really a big difference. You can get a DUI just sitting in the car without the keys in the ignition & car is in park. I’ve seen numerous videos of parents passed out from drug use/ prescription pills and their kids are just chilling or crying in the backseat.so this kinda sounds like the same scenario. That’s very strange that someone would even try to justify the facts in this one as it’s putting your own children in danger. You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… 🤔How did she get to Walmart to be able to pass out in her car with her kids? |
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 3, 2022 13:49:14 GMT -5
Not really a big difference. You can get a DUI just sitting in the car without the keys in the ignition & car is in park. I’ve seen numerous videos of parents passed out from drug use/ prescription pills and their kids are just chilling or crying in the backseat.so this kinda sounds like the same scenario. That’s very strange that someone would even try to justify the facts in this one as it’s putting your own children in danger. You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… So if you pass out behind the wheel at a red light, no DUI because you are not driving? That is not how the law is written or applied. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 3, 2022 14:03:20 GMT -5
You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… So if you pass out behind the wheel at a red light, no DUI because you are not driving? That is not how the law is written or applied. Sitting in a parking lot with the car in park is not the same as passed out with the vehicle in gear and your foot on the brake at a red light. We don’t know if somebody was in the store. We don’t know the story at all honestly besides speculation. Hopefully she has the means to pay for an Uber but she clearly didn’t make the right choice... But the conclusion jumping is rather typical for all forms of news and social media in 2022. |
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 3, 2022 14:31:24 GMT -5
So if you pass out behind the wheel at a red light, no DUI because you are not driving? That is not how the law is written or applied. Sitting in a parking lot with the car in park is not the same as passed out with the vehicle in gear and your foot on the brake at a red light. We don’t know if somebody was in the store. We don’t know the story at all honestly besides speculation. Hopefully she has the means to pay for an Uber but she clearly didn’t make the right choice... But the conclusion jumping is rather typical for all forms of news and social media in 2022. Great. We are making progress. So we agree that a person does not actually have to be driving to be guilty of DUI. So can we agree that if a person passed out drunk at a red light with the car in park that the person is guilty of DUI? |
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Post by rifle on Apr 3, 2022 14:47:20 GMT -5
Sitting in a parking lot with the car in park is not the same as passed out with the vehicle in gear and your foot on the brake at a red light. We don’t know if somebody was in the store. We don’t know the story at all honestly besides speculation. Hopefully she has the means to pay for an Uber but she clearly didn’t make the right choice... But the conclusion jumping is rather typical for all forms of news and social media in 2022. Great. We are making progress. So we agree that a person does not actually have to be driving to be guilty of DUI. So can we agree that if a person passed out drunk at a red light with the car in park that the person is guilty of DUI? I don’t agree with either statement. If the car is in park, you aren’t driving the car. |
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 3, 2022 15:03:02 GMT -5
Really does not matter what you believe. The dui laws are written so that the only things that are required are a person is under the influence and has the immediate ability to control a vehicle. Sitting in driver’s seat, they got you. Car running, they got you.
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Post by mamadona on Apr 3, 2022 15:55:14 GMT -5
🤔How did she get to Walmart to be able to pass out in her car with her kids? Exactly. Either she drove there drunk, or got drunk there. Both very bad choices. She probably didn’t think she was that drunk… I’m guessing because this used to happen to someone close to me. She needs to realize that she has a problem with alcohol and quit being in denial before something even worse happens. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 3, 2022 16:44:26 GMT -5
Really does not matter what you believe. The dui laws are written so that the only things that are required are a person is under the influence and has the immediate ability to control a vehicle. Sitting in driver’s seat, they got you. Car running, they got you. This video seems to contradict the things you are believing to be factual. |
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Post by bogan on Apr 4, 2022 7:32:52 GMT -5
Regardless of the legal aspects of this incident, she needs help (as evidenced by previous incidents). I think of her kids and wonder what they must be going through…because I was close to a similar situation many years ago. She needs some tough love, perhaps an intervention…and needs to be willing to accept help. Maybe this will be a catalyst?
Sometimes you just have to hit bottom.
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Post by flix on Apr 5, 2022 9:35:17 GMT -5
Not really a big difference. You can get a DUI just sitting in the car without the keys in the ignition & car is in park. I’ve seen numerous videos of parents passed out from drug use/ prescription pills and their kids are just chilling or crying in the backseat.so this kinda sounds like the same scenario. That’s very strange that someone would even try to justify the facts in this one as it’s putting your own children in danger. You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… I get what you are saying to a degree but I guess I wasn’t specific enough that if you are passed out this will happen. Of course everything depends on the facts. I watched the video you posted of the suppression hearing but the facts were entirely different in that case. That guy wasn’t passed out for an hour with kids in the car like she was. His story was very believable and that’s why the judge suppressed the evidence. Regardless, he will most likely plea to an amended charge for the dui and plea to the resisting arrest but he’s not taking it to trial because they will give him jail time. How many times have you seen people passed out in the drive thru at McDonald’s late night and cops are called? They are always charged with Dui even though they aren’t driving and some are shot dead. Her facts are entirely different but let’s just roll with your theory being correct, they still have her on the child abuse charges with are the most serious charges as it could lead to child protection services investigating. Finally, that was a Kentucky case and North Carolina law could be different as I didn’t take the time to look up NC dui law. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 5, 2022 11:30:33 GMT -5
You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… I get what you are saying to a degree but I guess I wasn’t specific enough that if you are passed out this will happen. Of course everything depends on the facts. I watched the video you posted of the suppression hearing but the facts were entirely different in that case. That guy wasn’t passed out for an hour with kids in the car like she was. His story was very believable and that’s why the judge suppressed the evidence. Regardless, he will most likely plea to an amended charge for the dui and plea to the resisting arrest but he’s not taking it to trial because they will give him jail time. How many times have you seen people passed out in the drive thru at McDonald’s late night and cops are called? They are always charged with Dui even though they aren’t driving and some are shot dead. Her facts are entirely different but let’s just roll with your theory being correct, they still have her on the child abuse charges with are the most serious charges as it could lead to child protection services investigating. Finally, that was a Kentucky case and North Carolina law could be different as I didn’t take the time to look up NC dui law. Hope’s “child abuse” charge appears to be automatic, the result of DUI with kids in a car. I think that’s a good law as long as you are actually caught driving. I don’t know how long she was “out” either. Only speculation far as I have read. I suspect all charges will be dropped soon and yet she’s been dragged through the mud. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 5, 2022 11:43:11 GMT -5
Here she goes again. I'd have thought she would have learned from her run-ins with the law a few years ago. She's trying to build herself up as a media personality and then she does something obscenely dumb like this.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 5, 2022 11:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by mamadona on Apr 5, 2022 13:02:44 GMT -5
Hope’s “child abuse” charge appears to be automatic, the result of DUI with kids in a car. I think that’s a good law as long as you are actually caught driving. I don’t know how long she was “out” either. Only speculation far as I have read. I suspect all charges will be dropped soon and yet she’s been dragged through the mud. Why are you defending her? It's not normal to be passed out in a Walmart lot with little kids, smelling of alcohol. She needs help. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 5, 2022 13:56:16 GMT -5
Hope’s “child abuse” charge appears to be automatic, the result of DUI with kids in a car. I think that’s a good law as long as you are actually caught driving. I don’t know how long she was “out” either. Only speculation far as I have read. I suspect all charges will be dropped soon and yet she’s been dragged through the mud. Why are you defending her? It's not normal to be passed out in a Walmart lot with little kids, smelling of alcohol. She needs help. I like Hope Solo. She has a knucklehead gene for sure but she is an American hero. She got run out of soccer for saying the opponents played like chickens. The shame… Sure the new “kids asleep in a van” story sounds bad… But none of us know the actual story. Maybe her twins only sleep in a car. I’ve been there for sure. The parent is usually exhausted when they’re that age. Maybe she was asleep and the kids were asleep and she was minding her own business. Maybe the car wasn’t in gear. Maybe it was cold outside. So many unknowns. As for the alcohol accusation - I wasn’t there. Sure it could be valid. It also might not. Here is a guy that had his FAA certification taken for being sober because some cop on a bonus system made an accusation… Or maybe she did what the news is accusing her of. I guess we have to will wait and see. I will admit that TMZ often is the most accurate news source - which is a pretty big condemnation of traditional news sources - so you never know. |
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Post by rifle on Apr 5, 2022 20:23:19 GMT -5
You can also have those charges thrown out in court because driving means driving. Sitting in a car drunk isn’t driving. The arresting officer may charge you but it’s unlikely to stick. Regardless I’m against DUI every day of the week. If she had been driving then she deserves to have to book thrown at her. From the descriptions I’ve seen she was not actually driving. Until we know real facts this is all speculation. Regardless, it doesn’t sounds like a series of good decisions… I get what you are saying to a degree but I guess I wasn’t specific enough that if you are passed out this will happen. Of course everything depends on the facts. I watched the video you posted of the suppression hearing but the facts were entirely different in that case. That guy wasn’t passed out for an hour with kids in the car like she was. His story was very believable and that’s why the judge suppressed the evidence. Regardless, he will most likely plea to an amended charge for the dui and plea to the resisting arrest but he’s not taking it to trial because they will give him jail time. How many times have you seen people passed out in the drive thru at McDonald’s late night and cops are called? They are always charged with Dui even though they aren’t driving and some are shot dead. Her facts are entirely different but let’s just roll with your theory being correct, they still have her on the child abuse charges with are the most serious charges as it could lead to child protection services investigating. Finally, that was a Kentucky case and North Carolina law could be different as I didn’t take the time to look up NC dui law. FWIW That guy’s charges were not amended, they were dropped (including the resisting charge.. because the initial charge was improper). The same could very easily happen to Hope - if she was not driving. Just imagine being sound asleep with your cranky toddlers and waking to a flashlight and a demand to submit to impairment tests. I’d one hundred percent decline the opportunity to make a case against myself too. I have seen stories of people passed out at the drive thru. Or at a red light with the car in gear and foot on the brake…. That’s DUI. The point of my first linked video is that sitting in a vehicle in a parking lot, presumably in a parking space is not “driving”. If you’re okay with people being arrested for drunk driving without driving, we will simply have to agree to disagree. Facts will eventually emerge. I honestly kinda regret my first response, jumping to a conclusion on this topic. She either did something real stupid or she didn’t. At this point I’d rather wait for the truth. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Apr 5, 2022 21:04:08 GMT -5
Her story and the facts coming out may exonerate her, but the law seems pretty clear in North Carolina(and most other states) as to what DUI is. Whether anyone agrees with it or not may be best argued by a lawyer in front of judges I suppose and not a soccer forum. dui.drivinglaws.org/ncarolina.phpActual physical control of the vehicle. North Carolina has extended the term "operation" to include having "actual physical control" of the vehicle. So, depending on the specific circumstances, a driver can be convicted of a DWI without the vehicle actually being in motion. |
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Post by mamadona on Apr 6, 2022 20:04:49 GMT -5
FWIW That guy’s charges were not amended, they were dropped (including the resisting charge.. because the initial charge was improper). The same could very easily happen to Hope - if she was not driving. Just imagine being sound asleep with your cranky toddlers and waking to a flashlight and a demand to submit to impairment tests. I’d one hundred percent decline the opportunity to make a case against myself too. I have seen stories of people passed out at the drive thru. Or at a red light with the car in gear and foot on the brake…. That’s DUI. The point of my first linked video is that sitting in a vehicle in a parking lot, presumably in a parking space is not “driving”. If you’re okay with people being arrested for drunk driving without driving, we will simply have to agree to disagree. Facts will eventually emerge. I honestly kinda regret my first response, jumping to a conclusion on this topic. She either did something real stupid or she didn’t. At this point I’d rather wait for the truth. I get it, you like Hope and you want her to not have been totally crazy & stupid. But no, sorry. This is not ok. You don't sleep in a car in a Walmart lot with your toddlers, smelling of alcohol. How did she get there? Even if she was in her own driveway it wouldn't be good. Someone very close to me was going through similar things. Drinking, doing very stupid things, being in denial. Things did not get better until that person stopped being in denial and actually quit drinking. Relationships have improved a lot, including with children who were previously suffering. Hope needs to get help and stop doing this to her kids. |
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