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Post by youthsoccerdad on May 26, 2022 12:04:55 GMT -5
I will start. Santos was really well organized, the coaches were engaged, all players wear the same shirt w/ a number, very impressed with how they put it all together. I think Concord does a pretty good job too.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 26, 2022 12:17:19 GMT -5
I will start. Santos was really well organized, the coaches were engaged, all players wear the same shirt w/ a number, very impressed with how they put it all together. I think Concord does a pretty good job too. Never been to a Santos tryout but I'm not surprised to hear that. I am surprised to hear that about Concorde though. What's always frustrated me about Concorde is the ratio of players trying out to the number of coaches watching is way too high. Every other club tryouts I've attended the ratio is smaller. |
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Post by mamadona on May 26, 2022 15:54:11 GMT -5
Our first big club tryout so have nothing to compare it to really, but UFA seemed well run although it was overwhelming at times! We just found out my daughter made the team she wanted. (somewhere in the middle)
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Post by soccerluv on May 26, 2022 23:06:37 GMT -5
We had a great experience at Santos tonight. It was well organized, and there looked to be some really good ‘08 players.
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Post by natlfutbol on May 27, 2022 17:37:18 GMT -5
I will give my thoughts on a forsyth big club experiences. It is well run. But are some of these players getting an actual try out? NO!. I believe, other parents also, its all a show. I believe some of the premier team are already set. If your son/daughther is in the top 3rd in her team and you are hoping he/she gets a chance at a higher team, from my experience, here is the show comes in. They will make it look like its happening but in reality those teams are set.
That is my experience. Yours mine be different.
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Post by mamadona on May 27, 2022 20:12:25 GMT -5
Asking for a friend… (we’re done, phew!) 08 girl, best player on small club team. Is there any chance getting on ECNL at big club? How about ECNL-R? I think a coach from one of the bigger clubs expressed interest at a tournament, but she is trying out at another club. Just going to tryouts. Could not make ID clinic.
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Post by dabe on May 27, 2022 20:42:44 GMT -5
Asking for a friend… (we’re done, phew!) 08 girl, best player on small club team. Is there any chance getting on ECNL at big club? How about ECNL-R? I think a coach from one of the bigger clubs expressed interest at a tournament, but she is trying out at another club. Just going to tryouts. Could not make ID clinic. Someone expressed interest in my kid at a tournament as well. She went to tryouts and made the team. In fact, the first day she was told she didn't need to be there. I can't remember if he got our contact info at the tournament or the first day of tryouts. Oh well. IMO parents should be very cautious around coaches that approach at tournaments. Make sure she is not being poached. My kid has been approached several times and it has never ended well. It almost always becomes possessive and promises may be made that cannot be kept because it hasn't been cleared with the club yet. Clubs are corporations 1st. U15 is when lots of clubs seem to "set" their teams. Of course there is always room for the best of the best. I would have her try to find game film of the team and see if she feels like she can hang with them. That has always helped my girls and is often accurate. |
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Post by justcurious on May 27, 2022 21:02:27 GMT -5
I would recommend having your friend reach out to SSA. They are revamping their 08’ GA girls team, only a handful were given early offers. The coach that is taking over the team is incredible.
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Post by soccer888 on May 27, 2022 21:04:14 GMT -5
Asking for a friend… (we’re done, phew!) 08 girl, best player on small club team. Is there any chance getting on ECNL at big club? How about ECNL-R? I think a coach from one of the bigger clubs expressed interest at a tournament, but she is trying out at another club. Just going to tryouts. Could not make ID clinic. If you are lucky, ECNL teams might have 1-2 open spots by tryouts. Often, though, the roster is completed the week before. They recruit and start bringing players they are interested in to team trainings just after May 1st. ECNLR seems a bit more open come tryout day, because 2nd and 3rd team rosters begin to get set once 1st teams are set. It can be frustrating, but go all in at the club your player really wants... and keep a plan B in mind also! Good luck! |
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Post by mamadona on May 27, 2022 21:05:15 GMT -5
I would recommend having your friend reach out to SSA. They are revamping their 08’ GA girls team, only a handful were given early offers. The coach that is taking over the team is incredible. Thanks! That sounds good. But they don’t want to drive too far. UFA, AFU, maybe Concorde are probably the main options. |
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Post by mamadona on May 27, 2022 21:07:02 GMT -5
Asking for a friend… (we’re done, phew!) 08 girl, best player on small club team. Is there any chance getting on ECNL at big club? How about ECNL-R? I think a coach from one of the bigger clubs expressed interest at a tournament, but she is trying out at another club. Just going to tryouts. Could not make ID clinic. If you are lucky, ECNL teams might have 1-2 open spots by tryouts. Often, though, the roster is completed the week before. They recruit and start bringing players they are interested in to team trainings just after May 1st. ECNLR seems a bit more open come tryout day, because 2nd and 3rd team rosters begin to get set once 1st teams are set. It can be frustrating, but go all in at the club your player really wants... and keep a plan B in mind also! Good luck! Thanks! I told my friend it’s going to be hard to go straight to ECNL from SCCL. I think they’d be ok with RL too. |
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Post by Keeper on May 27, 2022 22:09:32 GMT -5
Asking for a friend… (we’re done, phew!) 08 girl, best player on small club team. Is there any chance getting on ECNL at big club? How about ECNL-R? I think a coach from one of the bigger clubs expressed interest at a tournament, but she is trying out at another club. Just going to tryouts. Could not make ID clinic. Boys side may be different but most of the ECNL rosters are already filled. If the coach hasn’t seen them yet gonna be really hard to push through ECNL politics. Especially at Concorde and Ufa. Tell the parents they need to go ahead and reach out and get on the coaches radar. |
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Post by sandysoccer on May 30, 2022 10:18:52 GMT -5
Any advice on this? U16 son- has been practicing all month with his ECNL team + new kids the coach is evaluating. Coach has made some new kids offers but none of returning players have heard anything. Says he will be making calls after the first night of tryouts. Not looking good for making ECNL again at this home club- and he doesn't want to play RL here but is willing to play RL at a better club where his high school coach has recommended he play. Should we let current coach know he will be elsewhere tomorrow? Or just not show up?
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Post by flix on May 30, 2022 10:35:49 GMT -5
Any advice on this? U16 son- has been practicing all month with his ECNL team + new kids the coach is evaluating. Coach has made some new kids offers but none of returning players have heard anything. Says he will be making calls after the first night of tryouts. Not looking good for making ECNL again at this home club- and he doesn't want to play RL here but is willing to play RL at a better club where his high school coach has recommended he play. Should we let current coach know he will be elsewhere tomorrow? Or just not show up? Why do you think it’s not looking good? Is he playing? Not playing? Any of the new kids playing the same position as your son? Why wouldn’t you go to the first night of tryouts if the coach says he will be making calls right after? I would think if the high school coach is recommending another club/team at a lower level than he’s at now you should be able to show up on the second day of tryouts IF you get bad news. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 30, 2022 11:02:13 GMT -5
Any advice on this? U16 son- has been practicing all month with his ECNL team + new kids the coach is evaluating. Coach has made some new kids offers but none of returning players have heard anything. Says he will be making calls after the first night of tryouts. Not looking good for making ECNL again at this home club- and he doesn't want to play RL here but is willing to play RL at a better club where his high school coach has recommended he play. Should we let current coach know he will be elsewhere tomorrow? Or just not show up? I would ask the coach to be honest about where he stands. Let your son ask. It might help. He might not commit or might lie but he might be honest and then you would know what to do. Also might be good to talk to the high school coach about where he wants your son to play and see if they can get you in touch with that coach as a back up. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 30, 2022 11:17:27 GMT -5
Any advice on this? U16 son- has been practicing all month with his ECNL team + new kids the coach is evaluating. Coach has made some new kids offers but none of returning players have heard anything. Says he will be making calls after the first night of tryouts. Not looking good for making ECNL again at this home club- and he doesn't want to play RL here but is willing to play RL at a better club where his high school coach has recommended he play. Should we let current coach know he will be elsewhere tomorrow? Or just not show up? This is the frustrating part about the youth soccer environment. The coach has had the player for an entire year. The coach has made offers to new players. There is absolutely nothing that will happen the first day of tryouts that will change the coach's mind about where a current player stands. Be honest with the player and tell him whether he has a spot or not. The coach is saying to come to the first night of tryouts because the first night shows where the player really wants to be. As recommended, your kid should have a conversation with the coach. If the coach will not shoot straight, this probably tells your kid the answer and he should go to the new club first night and talk to the coach of the new club after the first night to see where he stands. |
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Post by Oceanready on May 30, 2022 11:20:40 GMT -5
Any advice on this? U16 son- has been practicing all month with his ECNL team + new kids the coach is evaluating. Coach has made some new kids offers but none of returning players have heard anything. Says he will be making calls after the first night of tryouts. Not looking good for making ECNL again at this home club- and he doesn't want to play RL here but is willing to play RL at a better club where his high school coach has recommended he play. Should we let current coach know he will be elsewhere tomorrow? Or just not show up? Did the coach tell you he made the new kids offers or another parent? While it may be true, make sure you evaluate the source. During this time, parents (and coaches) have been known to say all kind of things (and not say anything with an offer in hand) so make sure you make an informed decision. The advantage with trying out for ECRL, is that those teams are typically set after ECNL is done, so even if you show up on the second day you should be fine. If you don’t think he will make ECNL at your home club, have you considered having him try out for another ECNL team? Make sure you plan and have options, I repeat.. always have options. Good luck. |
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Post by sandysoccer on May 30, 2022 16:50:14 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Agree with all your advice. The team did not do well last year- lots of injuries, some bad attitudes, I believe the coach has told the boys he is "building a new team". My son has been playing- has played more than one position on this team, so hard to tell by thinking about where new players play. Agree also that this is definitely frustrating part of youth soccer. This coach has seen the returning players vs the new kids for at least 6 training sessions over the past few weeks. He already knows what he wants to do. Just frustrating he hasn't let them know his decision. Will have son reach out himself today.
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Post by rifle on May 30, 2022 17:05:16 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Agree with all your advice. The team did not do well last year- lots of injuries, some bad attitudes, I believe the coach has told the boys he is "building a new team". My son has been playing- has played more than one position on this team, so hard to tell by thinking about where new players play. Agree also that this is definitely frustrating part of youth soccer. This coach has seen the returning players vs the new kids for at least 6 training sessions over the past few weeks. He already knows what he wants to do. Just frustrating he hasn't let them know his decision. Will have son reach out himself today. Thats a crappy position to be in. I’d ask the coach - are you positive or negative on the player? |
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Post by soccerparentx on May 31, 2022 12:22:07 GMT -5
How many club tryouts did NOT look like this:
1. Coaches gathered players around for a quick discussion
2. Kids were separated by age, size, and the ones that knew which team they were on
3. Quick warm-up (or none)
4. Scrimmaging the rest of tryouts as coaches moved kids up and down based on something they liked or didn't like. Other coaches chatting, laughing, and not paying attention.
Reply with a club that doesn't follow this format.
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Post by blu on May 31, 2022 13:17:54 GMT -5
Yeah they always look like that.
Looked like Concorde brought a whole ECRL team to GSA tryouts today. Following a coach I've heard, U16.
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Post by newathis on May 31, 2022 13:18:45 GMT -5
How many club tryouts did NOT look like this: 1. Coaches gathered players around for a quick discussion 2. Kids were separated by age, size, and the ones that knew which team they were on 3. Quick warm-up (or none) 4. Scrimmaging the rest of tryouts as coaches moved kids up and down based on something they liked or didn't like. Other coaches chatting, laughing, and not paying attention. Reply with a club that doesn't follow this format. We must have been at the same club  |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 31, 2022 13:35:24 GMT -5
Yeah they always look like that. Looked like Concorde brought a whole ECRL team to GSA tryouts today. Following a coach I've heard, U16. Boys or girls? Is that 2007 (rising U16's)? |
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Post by flamengo100 on May 31, 2022 13:43:46 GMT -5
Boys following Concorde North coach who went to GSA (07 boys)
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 31, 2022 14:02:36 GMT -5
Yeah they always look like that. Looked like Concorde brought a whole ECRL team to GSA tryouts today. Following a coach I've heard, U16. Boys or girls? Is that 2007 (rising U16's)? Boys. This year GSA is doing something I don't recall seeing in the past, on the boys side anyhow. They held their ECNL & ECRL tryouts earlier today. Then this evening they are only having SCCL and lower trying out. I have no idea how it works if your player is on the bubble between ECRL & SCCL. Maybe they need to go to both the morning session and the evening session. |
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Post by blu on May 31, 2022 14:12:16 GMT -5
Boys 2007. Both teams finished at the top of the table last year so it "could" make a very good team.
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Post by soccerloafer on May 31, 2022 14:22:17 GMT -5
How many club tryouts did NOT look like this: 1. Coaches gathered players around for a quick discussion 2. Kids were separated by age, size, and the ones that knew which team they were on 3. Quick warm-up (or none) 4. Scrimmaging the rest of tryouts as coaches moved kids up and down based on something they liked or didn't like. Other coaches chatting, laughing, and not paying attention. Reply with a club that doesn't follow this format. Back in the day, for the bubble players, we coaches preferred to have the moms pick up the kids. Could push the decision either way. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 31, 2022 14:24:15 GMT -5
Boys or girls? Is that 2007 (rising U16's)? Boys. This year GSA is doing something I don't recall seeing in the past, on the boys side anyhow. They held their ECNL & ECRL tryouts earlier today. Then this evening they are only having SCCL and lower trying out. I have no idea how it works if your player is on the bubble between ECRL & SCCL. Maybe they need to go to both the morning session and the evening session. NTH, UFA and Concorde have been doing this for years. I think that it goes back to DA. The clubs would have DA tryouts during the day so players from multiple clubs could attend and then everything else was later so kids could go back to their home club if they did not make DA. If the player is not sure where they stand, they have to go to both because it is a different set of coaches. When it was DA, they would let people know pretty quickly whether to keep coming back or to make other plans. I am not sure that things are as transparent now. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 31, 2022 14:35:56 GMT -5
Boys. This year GSA is doing something I don't recall seeing in the past, on the boys side anyhow. They held their ECNL & ECRL tryouts earlier today. Then this evening they are only having SCCL and lower trying out. I have no idea how it works if your player is on the bubble between ECRL & SCCL. Maybe they need to go to both the morning session and the evening session. NTH, UFA and Concorde have been doing this for years. I think that it goes back to DA. The clubs would have DA tryouts during the day so players from multiple clubs could attend and then everything else was later so kids could go back to their home club if they did not make DA. If the player is not sure where they stand, they have to go to both because it is a different set of coaches. When it was DA, they would let people know pretty quickly whether to keep coming back or to make other plans. I am sure that things are as transparent now. It is a huge pain for the U15-U17 age groups when parents are still working and kids can't drive yet. It is nice to know whether you should stay there or go to later session. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 31, 2022 14:39:20 GMT -5
Boys. This year GSA is doing something I don't recall seeing in the past, on the boys side anyhow. They held their ECNL & ECRL tryouts earlier today. Then this evening they are only having SCCL and lower trying out. I have no idea how it works if your player is on the bubble between ECRL & SCCL. Maybe they need to go to both the morning session and the evening session. NTH, UFA and Concorde have been doing this for years. I think that it goes back to DA. The clubs would have DA tryouts during the day so players from multiple clubs could attend and then everything else was later so kids could go back to their home club if they did not make DA. If the player is not sure where they stand, they have to go to both because it is a different set of coaches. When it was DA, they would let people know pretty quickly whether to keep coming back or to make other plans. I am not sure that things are as transparent now. It makes sense if the players are told early on if they need to go to the other session. Then again, with teams training through the entire month of May now, and inviting other players, shouldn't most kids already know where they stand. Of course they don't, but they should. |
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