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Post by atlien on Mar 19, 2024 13:16:40 GMT -5
Well then - On a personal note, Eddie is spineless. He does not stand up for his players. Eddie may be “a good guy” because you are paying him to be. Did you ever think of that? Well then, since we're thinking now- maybe it's not Eddie who's spineless, but rather the anonymous people on an anonymous forum talking about someone in the community who isn't here do defend himself (at least bring some receipts.) Did you ever think of that? Your “trash” is my truth. Everything I have and will ever say on this forum is 100% honest. |
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Post by atlantagray on Mar 19, 2024 13:39:07 GMT -5
Well then, since we're thinking now- maybe it's not Eddie who's spineless, but rather the anonymous people on an anonymous forum talking about someone in the community who isn't here do defend himself (at least bring some receipts.) Did you ever think of that? Don’t need to think of it. Totally in line with the rules of this anonymous forum. Did YOU think of that? the "edit" function is allowed *and encouraged on this forum as well- instead of posting back to back |
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Post by debruynepass on Mar 19, 2024 13:51:10 GMT -5
AFU parent here. Interesting comments. Interesting might not be the right. I'm also an AFU parent. I really like my kids team, coach and the parents. I would recommend AFU to anyone who had a younger kid and without this DOC coaching I would recommend it to anyone! It seems like this problem is mostly with the top teams for older girls. We know a few families who've been affected by this. And there are players we know who tried out for his team that felt relieved not to make ECNL because the other coaches are apparently much nicer. |
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Post by debruynepass on Mar 19, 2024 16:18:57 GMT -5
atlantasoccerdad2020. Don’t know how it happened but your message is gone…….. here’s my response: Common for people to adopt an 'if it didn't happen to me or mine, it doesn't happen' attitude. I never implied that bad parents don't exist everywhere—that's a given. But speaking on the issues of other club's parents would be irrelevant in a post talking about AFU...no? It's great to hear that your kid is happy where they are. Both positive and negative experiences can coexist. For the player's privacy, I can't specify which team they're on. However, I can confirm that this player isn't concerned about making the team. And after attending a couple of games, the players that I'm most concerned for are not the family friend's player.
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Post by Oceanready on Mar 19, 2024 17:16:45 GMT -5
Elaborate on “stand up”…I’ve seen the opposite from him… Apparently he must be a changed man at Concorde. I guess he had a come to Jesus moment after that whole TopHat debacle. Two things can be true at the same time, so not discounting your experience, but from what I heard is that his players and parents love and respect him. I also know some of his current parents on both ECNL teams and they love him. My friend’s daughter also had Eddie, and they claimed that she truly developed with his coaching. One thing I noticed when watching her games was that Eddie was big on “playing out the back” and developing his whole team while utilizing ALL players. He also seemed firm, but not berating which to me reflects a great coach. A different style of play doesn’t mean the coach is bad, you just have to encourage your player to take advantage of unique opportunities and utilize their skills to adjust in a different formation or maybe find another program/club/league. Everyone coaches differently and believe it or not when its college search time, you have to really consider the style of play that the program promotes and ask yourself how good of a fit your player will be and/or is he or she willing to adjust. |
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Post by atlien on Mar 19, 2024 18:22:28 GMT -5
Apparently he must be a changed man at Concorde. I guess he had a come to Jesus moment after that whole TopHat debacle. Two things can be true at the same time, so not discounting your experience, but from what I heard is that his players and parents love and respect him. I also know some of his current parents on both ECNL teams and they love him. My friend’s daughter also had Eddie, and they claimed that she truly developed with his coaching. One thing I noticed when watching her games was that Eddie was big on “playing out the back” and developing his whole team while utilizing ALL players. He also seemed firm, but not berating which to me reflects a great coach. A different style of play doesn’t mean the coach is bad, you just have to encourage your player to take advantage of unique opportunities and utilize their skills to adjust in a different formation or maybe find another program/club/league. Everyone coaches differently and believe it or not when its college search time, you have to really consider the style of play that the program promotes and ask yourself how good of a fit your player will be and/or is he or she willing to adjust. As I said, clueless… |
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Post by brookhaven07 on Mar 19, 2024 21:10:17 GMT -5
Any info on 07/06 top level boys coaches?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 20, 2024 9:42:29 GMT -5
Posting on behalf of a family friend because they don't want to make situation worse for their player. That should say enough...DOC at AFU will assumingly keep current teams - U17 & U19. Things have changed over a couple seasons. Family friend has a daughter on one of his ECNL teams. Gone to a few games and the way he talks to players made me uncomfortable. Very berating and obviously makes players nervous. Parents whisper about players and sometimes yell and criticize them during matches. Quality of player isn't a priority even at the cost of a win. Game plan doesn't change based on situation or opponent. Very good players at every position but doesn't let them make their own decisions. Check recent results. I don't think players are expected to be leaving in droves because of limited teams at this age. Family friend is still unsure. I do know players who are happy they wrapped up their last year with him. I'm sure to be hit with lots of parents who love AFU and overall club is great, but if you're thinking about top team with DOC do homework and make sure it's the right fit for your player. Honestly trying to find out what's really occurring? I have heard about the coach's rigidness when it comes to his 'game plan' but what alarms me is the statement about the berating by the coach and worse still, the loud whispers from parents criticizing and yelling at the players from the sidelines. Am I safe in assuming they are not yelling at their own kids but other kids on the team? Aren't there rules against this type of behavior and why aren't the parents of the affected players speaking up? |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 20, 2024 10:17:00 GMT -5
Well then - On a personal note, Eddie is spineless. He does not stand up for his players. Eddie may be “a good guy” because you are paying him to be. Did you ever think of that? For the record, like others, I don't consider Eddie a good coach solely, because he's a "a good guy." I respect that you have a personal and maybe professional dislike and anger towards Eddie because of your personal experience with him, but, please don't try to invalidate the personal experience others have had with him. The low-key jabs you keep throwing at others to negate and invalidate the experiences of others is not necessary. Additionally, in case you missed it, unless Eddie coaches pro-bono, you also paid Eddie, yet it didn't work out for you. The goal of this forum is to share our collective experiences in the hopes of improving our specific soccer wishes for our kids with the larger benefit of improving soccer locally. You've made it clear that your kid had a less than stellar experience with him. I honestly don't think there is a parent on here who wishes that occurred for you kid. I truly hope you moved to another team, league or club and found your little one a home where they can thrive, learn, and flourish. I wish you all the best and hopefully, one day, you can return to share kind words about an amazing coach who was able to help your little one meet all of their goals n wishes. Good Luck... |
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Post by atlien on Mar 20, 2024 13:27:22 GMT -5
Eddie may be “a good guy” because you are paying him to be. Did you ever think of that? For the record, like others, I don't consider Eddie a good coach solely, because he's a "a good guy." I respect that you have a personal and maybe professional dislike and anger towards Eddie because of your personal experience with him, but, please don't try to invalidate the personal experience others have had with him. The low-key jabs you keep throwing at others to negate and invalidate the experiences of others is not necessary. Additionally, in case you missed it, unless Eddie coaches pro-bono, you also paid Eddie, yet it didn't work out for you. The goal of this forum is to share our collective experiences in the hopes of improving our specific soccer wishes for our kids with the larger benefit of improving soccer locally. You've made it clear that your kid had a less than stellar experience with him. I honestly don't think there is a parent on here who wishes that occurred for you kid. I truly hope you moved to another team, league or club and found your little one a home where they can thrive, learn, and flourish. I wish you all the best and hopefully, one day, you can return to share kind words about an amazing coach who was able to help your little one meet all of their goals n wishes. Good Luck... What sense does it make to take comments posted on an anonymous forum personally? I will say that much of the information parents post here is misleading. We have had a lot of experience in the ATL soccer community and it pains me to read one-sided posts/topics. The forum loses value when the posts are “nice” but not honest. People come here for information, not niceties. Remember all the folks who defended JH and criticized the people who had honest, inside information? How'd that turn out? Good luck to you too. Oh, and I did not take that personally.  |
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Post by anon81 on Mar 20, 2024 14:37:26 GMT -5
If your kid is a D or C team player and Eddie helps them move up to the B team (TopHat Navy or Concorde Premier), then you might see that as “supportive” or “helpful”. Especially if your child is a defender, which from my understanding is more aligned with his expertise. If your kid is an attacking player, avoid him. I would suggest all parents of attacking players find offensive minded coaches of which Eddie is not. Does that make you happy now? My kid that has more experience with Eddie is an attacking player and was not a low level player and got many college offers and decided not to play. My 2 cents to you is this… it sounds like you felt he did not help your player develop her attacking tactics. I can understand that. We had several that did the same to my kid. Confused her. Made her question her decisions. Tried to force her into a mold that she did not fit into. A mold that did not use her dribbling skills, speed and most importantly equal shooting and crossing ability with both feet. Equal. No one could tell her dominant foot. Great set piece taker. Creative player before some got to her and messed with her head. I have come to the point now where I rate my children’s experiences with coaches based on several things. I can tell you that if their tactics don’t match or I am not impressed with their game or training portions of their coaching they may get a middle grade for me. I don’t trash coaches though unless they screw up in the interpersonal department. So basically they get bad ratings from me if they are jerks, don’t care about the players, abuse them verbally or make stupid decisions that harm their players physically, etc. That is regardless of their tactical abilities or how good their training sessions look. They get good ratings if they are good interpersonal AND good tactically and have good training sessions. Eddie is a good person from what I have seen. So if you think he is a good person who just did not work well with your player’s skill set then you should just say that and not trash him so vociferously. Be specific like you were in your most recent post about what did not work out. But to attack FG as clueless (shows you have not been here for a long time lurking) is uncalled for. To attack both of us and our kids is over the line. Even if my kid wasn’t an elite player (she was elite enough to get D1 looks before she pulled the plug) it wouldn’t necessarily mean that I don’t know what I am talking about. Given that my player was “elite” by some people’s standard (but certainly not getting National team invites so not THAT elite) I think I have the sort of experience with Eddie that is enough to say I know him and what he is about. I would happily let my other child play for him if she got the chance. Kid currently on EH team. Agree with others that he works hard and seems to care about his job. Training is very good. Game strategy and decisions don't match training priorities. Communication is below average, can be inconsistently given, confusing, and at times crosses into berating zone. Team culture and relationship building is poor. Both teams seem to have some happy and some unhappy kids/parents. If you are a favorite player, he will give a lot of support on and off the field. If you are not, it is a tough place to stay motivated and develop. Looking around for next year due to some of the "interpersonal department" issues raised by oraclesfriend. |
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Post by debruynepass on Mar 20, 2024 15:43:24 GMT -5
Posting on behalf of a family friend because they don't want to make situation worse for their player. That should say enough...DOC at AFU will assumingly keep current teams - U17 & U19. Things have changed over a couple seasons. Family friend has a daughter on one of his ECNL teams. Gone to a few games and the way he talks to players made me uncomfortable. Very berating and obviously makes players nervous. Parents whisper about players and sometimes yell and criticize them during matches. Quality of player isn't a priority even at the cost of a win. Game plan doesn't change based on situation or opponent. Very good players at every position but doesn't let them make their own decisions. Check recent results. I don't think players are expected to be leaving in droves because of limited teams at this age. Family friend is still unsure. I do know players who are happy they wrapped up their last year with him. I'm sure to be hit with lots of parents who love AFU and overall club is great, but if you're thinking about top team with DOC do homework and make sure it's the right fit for your player. Honestly trying to find out what's really occurring? I have heard about the coach's rigidness when it comes to his 'game plan' but what alarms me is the statement about the berating by the coach and worse still, the loud whispers from parents criticizing and yelling at the players from the sidelines. Am I safe in assuming they are not yelling at their own kids but other kids on the team? Aren't there rules against this type of behavior and why aren't the parents of the affected players speaking up? I'm trying to keep things as vague as possible for privacy of this family's player. The specific things DOC says are worse than my description. DOC often tells players they aren't good/have no clue what they're doing. Refuses to speak to players or acknowledge their efforts if they perform poorly, according to his standards. Will speak poorly about players on the field to players on the bench. perfection is the standard. Goal post is always moved so players never feel good enough. Even though DOC expects perfection when the team is looking rough and losing badly there's absolutely no change. Players must continue playing his way then get blamed when it doesn't work. And yes, parents yell and whisper about children who aren't their own. No one says anything because of the status and pull the parents have. And some may think it's okay. Apparently, DOC should be aware of issues because players have mentioned that it's annoying. However, to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible he didn't hear the complaints. I'm not sure if any players or parents have directly said anything. DOC wasn't always like this and may be feeling pressure to not be a "losing club". Wanting them to win is totally fair, that's how you keep your job in youth soccer, but it's win at all costs even if the cost is your player's well-being and it doesn't seem to be working...I went out to a couple of games. The most jarring thing was the way he was screaming. It made me very uncomfortable and it's clear it made players feel uncomfortable too. Players shouldn't be spoken to that way, and it obviously doesn't get results. I don't think I've heard that tone taken with a player before. |
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Post by futbolhero on Mar 20, 2024 16:14:18 GMT -5
Honestly trying to find out what's really occurring? I have heard about the coach's rigidness when it comes to his 'game plan' but what alarms me is the statement about the berating by the coach and worse still, the loud whispers from parents criticizing and yelling at the players from the sidelines. Am I safe in assuming they are not yelling at their own kids but other kids on the team? Aren't there rules against this type of behavior and why aren't the parents of the affected players speaking up? I'm trying to keep things as vague as possible for privacy of this family's player. The specific things DOC says are worse than my description. DOC often tells players they aren't good/have no clue what they're doing. Refuses to speak to players or acknowledge their efforts if they perform poorly, according to his standards. Will speak poorly about players on the field to players on the bench. perfection is the standard. Goal post is always moved so players never feel good enough. Even though DOC expects perfection when the team is looking rough and losing badly there's absolutely no change. Players must continue playing his way then get blamed when it doesn't work. And yes, parents yell and whisper about children who aren't their own. No one says anything because of the status and pull the parents have. And some may think it's okay. Apparently, DOC should be aware of issues because players have mentioned that it's annoying. However, to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible he didn't hear the complaints. I'm not sure if any players or parents have directly said anything. DOC wasn't always like this and may be feeling pressure to not be a "losing club". Wanting them to win is totally fair, that's how you keep your job in youth soccer, but it's win at all costs even if the cost is your player's well-being and it doesn't seem to be working...I went out to a couple of games. The most jarring thing was the way he was screaming. It made me very uncomfortable and it's clear it made players feel uncomfortable too. Players shouldn't be spoken to that way, and it obviously doesn't get results. I don't think I've heard that tone taken with a player before. I may have to call shenanigans here. |
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Post by debruynepass on Mar 20, 2024 16:42:55 GMT -5
I'm trying to keep things as vague as possible for privacy of this family's player. The specific things DOC says are worse than my description. DOC often tells players they aren't good/have no clue what they're doing. Refuses to speak to players or acknowledge their efforts if they perform poorly, according to his standards. Will speak poorly about players on the field to players on the bench. perfection is the standard. Goal post is always moved so players never feel good enough. Even though DOC expects perfection when the team is looking rough and losing badly there's absolutely no change. Players must continue playing his way then get blamed when it doesn't work. And yes, parents yell and whisper about children who aren't their own. No one says anything because of the status and pull the parents have. And some may think it's okay. Apparently, DOC should be aware of issues because players have mentioned that it's annoying. However, to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible he didn't hear the complaints. I'm not sure if any players or parents have directly said anything. DOC wasn't always like this and may be feeling pressure to not be a "losing club". Wanting them to win is totally fair, that's how you keep your job in youth soccer, but it's win at all costs even if the cost is your player's well-being and it doesn't seem to be working...I went out to a couple of games. The most jarring thing was the way he was screaming. It made me very uncomfortable and it's clear it made players feel uncomfortable too. Players shouldn't be spoken to that way, and it obviously doesn't get results. I don't think I've heard that tone taken with a player before. I may have to call shenanigans here. That's to be expected. Take it or leave it. The opinions of the people I'm talking about don't matter to me. This is a post for soon to be AFU parents or current on the fence parents who know something is wrong but thought they were the only ones. There are several on the teams. That's the only benefit of loud whisperers... |
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Post by futbolhero on Mar 20, 2024 17:03:06 GMT -5
I may have to call shenanigans here. That's to be expected. Take it or leave it. The opinions of the people I'm talking about don't matter to me. This is a post for soon to be AFU parents or current on the fence parents who know something is wrong but thought they were the only ones. There are several on the teams. That's the only benefit of loud whisperers... You sure you are talking about a girls coach and not a boys coach? Most girls coaches do not act the way you describe. Also top 2 girls teams 1 is going to nationals and the other struggled for sure but not like you are describing. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 20, 2024 17:30:45 GMT -5
That's to be expected. Take it or leave it. The opinions of the people I'm talking about don't matter to me. This is a post for soon to be AFU parents or current on the fence parents who know something is wrong but thought they were the only ones. There are several on the teams. That's the only benefit of loud whisperers... You sure you are talking about a girls coach and not a boys coach? Most girls coaches do not act the way you describe. Also top 2 girls teams 1 is going to nationals and the other struggled for sure but not like you are describing. 1) Neither boys nor girls coaches should behave that way he described. 2) Plenty of girls coaches behave that way. I have seen it with several and even those not coaching top teams 3) Whether they are going to nationals or not isn’t relevant to his behavior. Losing games has happened and therefore the actions could have happened. I do have a friend who defends this coach strongly saying he was great and they never heard anything inappropriate. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Mar 20, 2024 17:41:18 GMT -5
Specific to ECNL girls: Every coach mentioned thus far on this particular thread/topic, I’ve personally seen deliver some “hard coaching” from the sideline. Matter of fact I can’t think of an instance of a top team coach or opposition coach not doing so… from U14 - U19. I’m not making a statement on wether it’s right or wrong, but to single out coaches based upon the subject is senseless. They ALL do it. Unless it tips past something other than coaching.
Btw the Garvin replacement coach announcement ship has already sailed.
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Post by debruynepass on Mar 20, 2024 18:13:41 GMT -5
Specific to ECNL girls: Every coach mentioned thus far on this particular thread/topic, I’ve personally seen deliver some “hard coaching” from the sideline. Matter of fact I can’t think of an instance of a top team coach or opposition coach not doing so… from U14 - U19. I’m not making a statement on wether it’s right or wrong, but to single out coaches based upon the subject is senseless. They ALL do it. Unless it tips past something other than coaching. Btw the Garvin replacement coach announcement ship has already sailed. I think the opposite argument should also be made. Not calling coaches out on it allows it to be the norm. They probably do all do it and that's a problem. It makes it harder for players to distinguish between what's tough love and what's not acceptable. if you're used to feeling bad all the time then what's the issue if you feel a little worse than usual? That said when players at U17/U19 are talking about quitting soccer altogether it's pretty clear that some lines have been crossed. and like I said in a previous post I can't speak to issues on other teams because I haven't spoken to those parents. but if this situation sounds familiar to them then they should post too. |
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Post by debruynepass on Mar 20, 2024 18:22:01 GMT -5
That's to be expected. Take it or leave it. The opinions of the people I'm talking about don't matter to me. This is a post for soon to be AFU parents or current on the fence parents who know something is wrong but thought they were the only ones. There are several on the teams. That's the only benefit of loud whisperers... You sure you are talking about a girls coach and not a boys coach? Most girls coaches do not act the way you describe. Also top 2 girls teams 1 is going to nationals and the other struggled for sure but not like you are describing. Yes the girls coach. I'm not trying to minimize that the younger players qualified for nationals I think that's wonderful especially because they did it in spite of the way they're being treated. I think that elite girls coaches can be hard but you're right that most girls coaches don't act the way DOC does at least not in my experience. I don't think hard coaching or DOC behavior should be normalized. |
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Post by maze on Mar 20, 2024 19:58:46 GMT -5
Specific to ECNL girls: Every coach mentioned thus far on this particular thread/topic, I’ve personally seen deliver some “hard coaching” from the sideline. Matter of fact I can’t think of an instance of a top team coach or opposition coach not doing so… from U14 - U19. I’m not making a statement on wether it’s right or wrong, but to single out coaches based upon the subject is senseless. They ALL do it. Unless it tips past something other than coaching. Btw the Garvin replacement coach announcement ship has already sailed. Who are you hearing as replacement? Byron? |
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Post by soccergurl on Mar 21, 2024 9:07:00 GMT -5
For the record, like others, I don't consider Eddie a good coach solely, because he's a "a good guy." I respect that you have a personal and maybe professional dislike and anger towards Eddie because of your personal experience with him, but, please don't try to invalidate the personal experience others have had with him. The low-key jabs you keep throwing at others to negate and invalidate the experiences of others is not necessary. Additionally, in case you missed it, unless Eddie coaches pro-bono, you also paid Eddie, yet it didn't work out for you. The goal of this forum is to share our collective experiences in the hopes of improving our specific soccer wishes for our kids with the larger benefit of improving soccer locally. You've made it clear that your kid had a less than stellar experience with him. I honestly don't think there is a parent on here who wishes that occurred for you kid. I truly hope you moved to another team, league or club and found your little one a home where they can thrive, learn, and flourish. I wish you all the best and hopefully, one day, you can return to share kind words about an amazing coach who was able to help your little one meet all of their goals n wishes. Good Luck... What sense does it make to take comments posted on an anonymous forum personally? I will say that much of the information parents post here is misleading. We have had a lot of experience in the ATL soccer community and it pains me to read one-sided posts/topics. The forum loses value when the posts are “nice” but not honest. People come here for information, not niceties. Remember all the folks who defended JH and criticized the people who had honest, inside information? How'd that turn out? Good luck to you too. Oh, and I did not take that personally. |me tink u take it personally| |
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Post by soccergurl on Mar 21, 2024 9:09:18 GMT -5
Honestly trying to find out what's really occurring? I have heard about the coach's rigidness when it comes to his 'game plan' but what alarms me is the statement about the berating by the coach and worse still, the loud whispers from parents criticizing and yelling at the players from the sidelines. Am I safe in assuming they are not yelling at their own kids but other kids on the team? Aren't there rules against this type of behavior and why aren't the parents of the affected players speaking up? I'm trying to keep things as vague as possible for privacy of this family's player. The specific things DOC says are worse than my description. DOC often tells players they aren't good/have no clue what they're doing. Refuses to speak to players or acknowledge their efforts if they perform poorly, according to his standards. Will speak poorly about players on the field to players on the bench. perfection is the standard. Goal post is always moved so players never feel good enough. Even though DOC expects perfection when the team is looking rough and losing badly there's absolutely no change. Players must continue playing his way then get blamed when it doesn't work. And yes, parents yell and whisper about children who aren't their own. No one says anything because of the status and pull the parents have. And some may think it's okay. Apparently, DOC should be aware of issues because players have mentioned that it's annoying. However, to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible he didn't hear the complaints. I'm not sure if any players or parents have directly said anything. DOC wasn't always like this and may be feeling pressure to not be a "losing club". Wanting them to win is totally fair, that's how you keep your job in youth soccer, but it's win at all costs even if the cost is your player's well-being and it doesn't seem to be working...I went out to a couple of games. The most jarring thing was the way he was screaming. It made me very uncomfortable and it's clear it made players feel uncomfortable too. Players shouldn't be spoken to that way, and it obviously doesn't get results. I don't think I've heard that tone taken with a player before. |me tink this true| |me tink afu run by clowns| |me tink that why we run from afu| |me tink no growth at afu| |me tink doc no know how to coach| |me tink player get better on own|
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Post by Panenka on Mar 21, 2024 22:46:46 GMT -5
Interesting might not be the right. I'm also an AFU parent. I really like my kids team, coach and the parents. I would recommend AFU to anyone who had a younger kid and without this DOC coaching I would recommend it to anyone! It seems like this problem is mostly with the top teams for older girls. We know a few families who've been affected by this. And there are players we know who tried out for his team that felt relieved not to make ECNL because the other coaches are apparently much nicer. Could you describe some of the reasons why you would recommend AFU to anyone who had a younger kid? And what age group are you reffering to as younger kid? Thank you |
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Post by maze on Mar 22, 2024 16:26:50 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I thought I heard he was going to Florida. Isn't that where he was previously? I have heard he is taking over a pro or semi-pro team. I've also heard it's one that is being run by CF, but I have not been able to independently verify. So far, rumor also, has it that coach Rupert England will be taking over at least one of his current teams. I've never heard of Rupert England. For those interested in CF, can anyone give the class any info on Coach Rupert? Side Note: I highly doubt GB will be giving up his cash cow, unless he can do even less work and still collect the requisite $$$ So looks like Byron will be taking over 2 of Garvin's teams and all of the Platinum teams seem to be set so it's going to be who is taking over all of the Premier teams...esp if Christian is staying with the new ECNL Platinum team. Byron had 2 so those will need a coach, then the 09 Coach (Brian??) might be replaced and then Jasmine's old team will need a coach? |
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Post by dabe on Mar 22, 2024 16:44:23 GMT -5
I have heard he is taking over a pro or semi-pro team. I've also heard it's one that is being run by CF, but I have not been able to independently verify. So far, rumor also, has it that coach Rupert England will be taking over at least one of his current teams. I've never heard of Rupert England. For those interested in CF, can anyone give the class any info on Coach Rupert? Side Note: I highly doubt GB will be giving up his cash cow, unless he can do even less work and still collect the requisite $$$ So looks like Byron will be taking over 2 of Garvin's teams and all of the Platinum teams seem to be set so it's going to be who is taking over all of the Premier teams...esp if Christian is staying with the new ECNL Platinum team. Byron had 2 so those will need a coach, then the 09 Coach (Brian??) might be replaced and then Jasmine's old team will need a coach? England is supposed to be taking over the U18/U19 premier team. I still haven't heard anything about him from former team members or parents, though. I guess it's good that no one is flocking here to say anything bad! |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 23, 2024 12:02:23 GMT -5
My kid that has more experience with Eddie is an attacking player and was not a low level player and got many college offers and decided not to play. My 2 cents to you is this… it sounds like you felt he did not help your player develop her attacking tactics. I can understand that. We had several that did the same to my kid. Confused her. Made her question her decisions. Tried to force her into a mold that she did not fit into. A mold that did not use her dribbling skills, speed and most importantly equal shooting and crossing ability with both feet. Equal. No one could tell her dominant foot. Great set piece taker. Creative player before some got to her and messed with her head. I have come to the point now where I rate my children’s experiences with coaches based on several things. I can tell you that if their tactics don’t match or I am not impressed with their game or training portions of their coaching they may get a middle grade for me. I don’t trash coaches though unless they screw up in the interpersonal department. So basically they get bad ratings from me if they are jerks, don’t care about the players, abuse them verbally or make stupid decisions that harm their players physically, etc. That is regardless of their tactical abilities or how good their training sessions look. They get good ratings if they are good interpersonal AND good tactically and have good training sessions. Eddie is a good person from what I have seen. So if you think he is a good person who just did not work well with your player’s skill set then you should just say that and not trash him so vociferously. Be specific like you were in your most recent post about what did not work out. But to attack FG as clueless (shows you have not been here for a long time lurking) is uncalled for. To attack both of us and our kids is over the line. Even if my kid wasn’t an elite player (she was elite enough to get D1 looks before she pulled the plug) it wouldn’t necessarily mean that I don’t know what I am talking about. Given that my player was “elite” by some people’s standard (but certainly not getting National team invites so not THAT elite) I think I have the sort of experience with Eddie that is enough to say I know him and what he is about. I would happily let my other child play for him if she got the chance. Kid currently on EH team. Agree with others that he works hard and seems to care about his job. Training is very good. Game strategy and decisions don't match training priorities. Communication is below average, can be inconsistently given, confusing, and at times crosses into berating zone. Team culture and relationship building is poor. Both teams seem to have some happy and some unhappy kids/parents. If you are a favorite player, he will give a lot of support on and off the field. If you are not, it is a tough place to stay motivated and develop. Looking around for next year due to some of the "interpersonal department" issues raised by oraclesfriend. I love this review. May not have been our experience with him but it is honest and thorough review that clarifies the coach’s positives and negatives from the perspective of this family. Won’t be everyone’s experience because the interpersonal sounds like it was good for some kids (“favorites”) and not for others. This is something it sounds like he needs to work on because there should be little to no difference between the treatment of favorites vs not favorites. (Should be no difference but that is hard to do in life). Hopefully Eddie reads this and sees an area for improvement. I will say that I can concur on the communication at least with the parents. My kid communicated with him wonderfully. It is best if it can be good with both parents and kids. I don’t like to hear that it is going into the berating zone. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Mar 23, 2024 12:25:26 GMT -5
95% of all coaches communication is terrible. It’s just not a skill set many of them possess. The biggest issue with their communication is they assume parents and players know more than they do.
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Mar 23, 2024 18:26:11 GMT -5
What age are we talking? What is the coach suppose to “communicate” to the parents? If the coach communicates with my player and communicates to his/her team manager…I am good.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 24, 2024 21:45:51 GMT -5
What age are we talking? What is the coach suppose to “communicate” to the parents? If the coach communicates with my player and communicates to his/her team manager…I am good. At the moment Eddie has 13 year old girls. So parents should at least be told twice per season where their kid is, for example a review/evaluation. These are 7th and 8th graders. Also he had the same age group, one team lower last season and the age group below them. But with high level players some coaches plan an itinerary on travel weekends. A warm-up in the morning if there is a late game, when they should be at the field, team dinners, some even dictate nutrition. Don’t wait until the last minute to tell parents this stuff. They are usually the drivers and nearly always the one paying. High level and older players need communication on recruiting and talk with college coaches on their players’ behalf. So maybe you have been lucky. We have a great communicator right now for my younger kid in that he communicates frequently and clearly with the parents. Not sure he is always clear with the kids but he certainly talks A LOT! But most of our kids’ coaches weren’t good. I have been the TM quite frequently and I can say it was usually a struggle. |
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Post by atlantagray on Apr 6, 2024 8:10:51 GMT -5
I usually have soccergurl muted, but am looking forward to her take on the news coming out today |
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