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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 24, 2018 21:11:28 GMT -5
Not trolling. UFA responded to Georgia Soccer today that we are pulling out of Georgia Soccer because of the policy change. I don't know how the Champions League will be configured but I can assure you that instead of the plan of one team per age group per gender, it will now include all of UFA's non-DA and non-NPL teams.
You may not like what I have to say but that doesn't change what's happening at UFA and the rest of the Champions League clubs.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 24, 2018 21:14:02 GMT -5
Georgia Soccer tells Iggy that he is out of RPL and he responds by throwing a temper tantrum and removing all UFA teams from Georgia Soccer. Now all the UFA teams are stuck playing a terrible league that will be managed by people that have no clue how to run a league. The stupid part is Iggy's move didn't get our teams back into RPL. All he got us was all UFA teams out of RPL, Athena, Academy and Classic. Not well thought out. How do you know this information? From GA Soccer or from one of the Big 5? You just posted 30 posts about this SSCL but there are no concrete details as to what will happen. Most of the posts sound like opinions to me. I get you are upset but if you have a whole team on board then you should have no problem finding another club. There are plenty of clubs to join and that’s why Metro Atlanta is a Mecca for youth soccer.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 24, 2018 21:14:17 GMT -5
Georgia Soccer tells Iggy that he is out of RPL and he responds by throwing a temper tantrum and removing all UFA teams from Georgia Soccer. Now all the UFA teams are stuck playing a terrible league that will be managed by people that have no clue how to run a league. The stupid part is Iggy's move didn't get our teams back into RPL. All he got us was all UFA teams out of RPL, Athena, Academy and Classic. Not well thought out. For what it’s worth, NPL was so much better run than RPL. Night and day.
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 24, 2018 21:20:12 GMT -5
soccerdaddy - The how is easy. I got mine from almost the top of the food chain at UFA. I get that you do not believe me and that's fine. If your child plays for CF, GSA, NTH, SSA or UFA then you might want to consider asking management specific questions. infoguy - That's great but my son plays much lower level than NPL. I am glad NPL is good but that doesn't help the lower level teams.
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Post by spectator on Apr 24, 2018 21:24:09 GMT -5
The clubs are NOT kicked out and will still field teams in the Athena and Classic divisions, not sure where your info is coming from but its not true. We already knew those clubs would not field RPL, that was the reasoning in forming their own league. I also don't understand the animosity from smaller clubs about this move, they stand to benefit greatly from it. Their teams will be playing at a higher level and they can earn RPL spots which in turn helps with recruiting and retaining their better players. I don't see animosity - but a lot of frustration and panic. Frustration because if you're at a small club, you are kind of at the mercy of what the larger clubs do or don't do or decide or whatever because that directly affects the rest of the competition. Frustration because the bigger clubs do typically have competitive teams - as do some smaller clubs and we'd all rather play like skilled teams than blow out or be blown out in lopsided matches. The issue with the current RPL model isn't competition - it was travel or mismanagement or someone not liking something and it has grown into this...whatever it is. For any South Park fans, insert the Cartman character saying 'screw you guys, I'm going home' voice now for your entertainment purposes. Panic will ensue around tryout time when the parents of the stronger (or parentally perceived stronger) players high tail it to larger club with aspirations of making that DA/ECNL/whatever the 'L' league it will be team and oh, Lord, let the stress and hand wringing begin. I say we hire a camera crew, get a good host and create a reality series around the landscape of youth soccer in metro Atlanta and Georgia. Regardless of what is or is not true - how this plays out or whatever - I have yet to see how this kind of change benefits the players. Parents and clubs are reaping the heck out of something like this but what does it mean for the 12-18 year old player? I just don't see a mass benefit to the thousands of players in GA anymore than I see how that calendar year change has improved our men's national team significantly either.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 24, 2018 21:24:54 GMT -5
soccerdaddy - The how is easy. I got mine from almost the top of the food chain at UFA. I get that you do not believe me and that's fine. If your child plays for CF, GSA, NTH, SSA or UFA then you might want to consider asking management specific questions. infoguy - That's great but my son plays much lower level than NPL. I am glad NPL is good but that doesn't help the lower level teams. OK, I’ll have to wait and see what the details are before I make a decision on what’s happening. Your talking about 20,000 players at these clubs. I’m sure they want to create an environment that benefits the majority. There too teams are NOT the majority.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 24, 2018 21:26:13 GMT -5
Their top teams are not the Majority
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 24, 2018 21:33:56 GMT -5
oraclesfriend - I looked at your assessment of CF and NTH. Here's what I found CF - Outside of DA and ECNL has 30 boys teams. Only 2 out of the 30 teams are Classic IV or Classic V level. U13 Classic IV team and U15 Classic V team. NTH - Outside of DA and ECNL has 21 boys teams. Only (4) out of the (21) teams are Classic IV or Classic V level.
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Post by spectator on Apr 24, 2018 21:35:55 GMT -5
Georgia Soccer tells Iggy that he is out of RPL and he responds by throwing a temper tantrum and removing all UFA teams from Georgia Soccer. Now all the UFA teams are stuck playing a terrible league that will be managed by people that have no clue how to run a league. The stupid part is Iggy's move didn't get our teams back into RPL. All he got us was all UFA teams out of RPL, Athena, Academy and Classic. Not well thought out. You really hate Iggy, don't you? It is my understanding that all of the big 5 clubs WANTED out of RPL. They were not kicked out by Georgia Soccer. They felt RPL was a waste of time and travel and was POORLY run. US Club soccer runs ECNL so what makes you think this league will be run "by people that have no clue how to run a league." As I said before I did not want the Champions League and I surely did not want all of the big 5 teams out of Athena and Classic, but the vitriol you are putting into your posts is a bit much. I guess you feel betrayed. If you don't like it, do what Soccerhouse mentioned and tell the club. Exercise your right to leave and go somewhere else if it is no longer the right fit for you and your child. I hope the info you have is accurate though because you will look like an idiot if it isn't. As for CF and TH 1) we don't know that they both will keep both DA and ECNL as there are still rumors about that 2) they have many more teams that will also be affected. Tophat has 4-5 teams aside from their DA and ECNL teams on the girls side. Concorde does as well. There are a lot of kids in 3rd, 4th, 5th teams and secondary locations that will be affected by this if you are correct in your info. Btw there are other states that have this type of structure. The sky is not falling. Now be fair here - you're telling this poster to do exactly what I responded to you and you pushed back that it wasn't easy to just up and leave a club - perhaps this person is in the same boat and is passionate about this topic. I have no dog in this hunt but will point out hypocrisy with I see it - you can't just dismiss and tell someone to do what you, yourself argued wasn't an option for you Hear the guy out - this is a huge change for clubs and teams - and most of all players. Seems no one is even remotely worried about what these kids want or are concerned about.
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2018 22:00:28 GMT -5
There's nothing to hear...he's full of it. No one at UFA is talking to him. He said that his kid plays for a lower team but his coach is in the know? The coaches havent been told yet, some may know. But this guy is just trolling with wrong information. UFA didn't pull all their teams from GA Soccer. He's trying to create panic just for kicks. I haven't had time to read all his nonsense but what I read is completely wrong. So again, when its all announced then you can make an educated decision. Don't base it on some guy behind a keyboard who is just simply bored
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 24, 2018 22:11:30 GMT -5
There's nothing to hear...he's full of it. No one at UFA is talking to him. He said that his kid plays for a lower team but his coach is in the know? The coaches havent been told yet, some may know. But this guy is just trolling with wrong information. UFA didn't pull all their teams from GA Soccer. He's trying to create panic just for kicks. I haven't had time to read all his nonsense but what I read is completely wrong. So again, when its all announced then you can make an educated decision. Don't base it on some guy behind a keyboard who is just simply bored All I know is SoccerMom is the Bomb! I’ll go with her on this one. Let’s stop bashing for kicks and let’s see how it plays out. They have a site for bashing, something like Network 54 or something. You’ll have to filter out the political posts 😜
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2018 22:18:43 GMT -5
There's nothing to hear...he's full of it. No one at UFA is talking to him. He said that his kid plays for a lower team but his coach is in the know? The coaches havent been told yet, some may know. But this guy is just trolling with wrong information. UFA didn't pull all their teams from GA Soccer. He's trying to create panic just for kicks. I haven't had time to read all his nonsense but what I read is completely wrong. So again, when its all announced then you can make an educated decision. Don't base it on some guy behind a keyboard who is just simply bored All I know is SoccerMom is the Bomb! I’ll go with her on this one. Let’s stop bashing for kicks and let’s see how it plays out. They have a site for bashing, something like Network 54 or something. You’ll have to filter out the political posts 😜 Thank goodness that site was taken down...but he is certainly giving me flashbacks 😂😂
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 24, 2018 22:26:53 GMT -5
soccermom - Take your own stance. i'm not lying. I have a very high up resource and I believe it. But suit yourself. If you find the information lacking credibility then let's touch base on here after tryouts and see where your opinion stands. Amazing that people still shoot the messenger rather than bothering to ask management for simple clarification on their actual position. If you do not want to ask club management then call Georgia Soccer and ask them what was said today.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 24, 2018 22:36:09 GMT -5
soccermom - Take your own stance. i'm not lying. I have a very high up resource and I believe it. But suit yourself. If you find the information lacking credibility then let's touch base on here after tryouts and see where your opinion stands. Amazing that people still shoot the messenger rather than bothering to ask management for simple clarification on their actual position. If you do not want to ask club management then call Georgia Soccer and ask them what was said today. SoccerMom practically runs UFA, she is a silent owner but I’ve said too much. OK, seriously PLEASE don’t worry about the changes until they are announced. Seek answers from your club and just do what’s best for your son or daughter with what comes out and hopefully we will know in the next week or so.
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Post by spectator on Apr 24, 2018 22:38:05 GMT -5
There's nothing to hear...he's full of it. No one at UFA is talking to him. He said that his kid plays for a lower team but his coach is in the know? The coaches havent been told yet, some may know. But this guy is just trolling with wrong information. UFA didn't pull all their teams from GA Soccer. He's trying to create panic just for kicks. I haven't had time to read all his nonsense but what I read is completely wrong. So again, when its all announced then you can make an educated decision. Don't base it on some guy behind a keyboard who is just simply bored WOW! Speaking of vitrol . . . I'm not saying anything more than how hypocritical it is for someone (oraclesfriend) who insisted it was not fair to tell people to just leave their clubs to tell this guy - whomever he is - to just leave his club. And I believe I did just that without stooping to insulting a poster by calling him a bored troll behind a keyboard. How do I know you aren't some pimply kid in mom's basement stirring things up here - I don't you any more than you 'know' me. It's a forum - with enough anonymity to let people feel safe and enough transparency for us to be able to keep it civil and honest. Not too long ago, you jumped all over me for being rude and harsh to a newbie in a conversation about referees - how about you read what you just wrote and adjust your tone? I believe in my case, I simply disagreed with someone - I never called anyone a troll or accused them of creating panic. You are coming across as judgmental and cliquish - are you the voice of UFA? Do you know everything happening in every league and team? No you do and are not - you have no idea what this guy knows or doesn't know but to immediately dismiss him as a troll just because he isn't chugging your UFA Kool Ade, is ridiculous! Of course this decision - whatever it is - doesn't affect you - your kid plays, DA, right? Easy for you to tell people to chill out. Have a little empathy for what other people are experiencing here - this reads like one hot mess for teams and players - I personally don't give a rats a$$ about the clubs - this is YOUTH soccer - operative word YOUTH. I still see no value in pulling out of one league or another and creating layer upon layer of teams for anyone other than the clubs cashing the checks and the parents egos to brag about where their kid plays. I care about kids who want to play this game and I think many of them are about to get royally screwed over. I can't blame any parent for worrying about the landscape next year. I have no dog in this hunt other than the many many years I was part of GA Soccer while my kid played and will end her time playing in GA Soccer. I've seen this evolve from Classic/Athena and one level of RPL to this craziness of multiple leagues, levels and saturation of the market. I am ever grateful to be leaving this but I was involved with GA Soccer deeply enough for long enough to still care what it will become.
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Post by atlsoccer on Apr 24, 2018 22:41:35 GMT -5
So I’m missing where it says all the clubs that you listed are kicked out? Not just those clubs, Impact, Smyrna, AFC, RYSA all have Super Y. Does AFC and SSA choice NL/RPL/Peidmont league or NPL next year?
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2018 23:03:48 GMT -5
There's nothing to hear...he's full of it. No one at UFA is talking to him. He said that his kid plays for a lower team but his coach is in the know? The coaches havent been told yet, some may know. But this guy is just trolling with wrong information. UFA didn't pull all their teams from GA Soccer. He's trying to create panic just for kicks. I haven't had time to read all his nonsense but what I read is completely wrong. So again, when its all announced then you can make an educated decision. Don't base it on some guy behind a keyboard who is just simply bored WOW! Speaking of vitrol . . . I'm not saying anything more than how hypocritical it is for someone (oraclesfriend) who insisted it was not fair to tell people to just leave their clubs to tell this guy - whomever he is - to just leave his club. And I believe I did just that without stooping to insulting a poster by calling him a bored troll behind a keyboard. How do I know you aren't some pimply kid in mom's basement stirring things up here - I don't you any more than you 'know' me. It's a forum - with enough anonymity to let people feel safe and enough transparency for us to be able to keep it civil and honest. Not too long ago, you jumped all over me for being rude and harsh to a newbie in a conversation about referees - how about you read what you just wrote and adjust your tone? I believe in my case, I simply disagreed with someone - I never called anyone a troll or accused them of creating panic. You are coming across as judgmental and cliquish - are you the voice of UFA? Do you know everything happening in every league and team? No you do and are not - you have no idea what this guy knows or doesn't know but to immediately dismiss him as a troll just because he isn't chugging your UFA Kool Ade, is ridiculous! Of course this decision - whatever it is - doesn't affect you - your kid plays, DA, right? Easy for you to tell people to chill out. Have a little empathy for what other people are experiencing here - this reads like one hot mess for teams and players - I personally don't give a rats a$$ about the clubs - this is YOUTH soccer - operative word YOUTH. I still see no value in pulling out of one league or another and creating layer upon layer of teams for anyone other than the clubs cashing the checks and the parents egos to brag about where their kid plays. I care about kids who want to play this game and I think many of them are about to get royally screwed over. I can't blame any parent for worrying about the landscape next year. I have no dog in this hunt other than the many many years I was part of GA Soccer while my kid played and will end her time playing in GA Soccer. I've seen this evolve from Classic/Athena and one level of RPL to this craziness of multiple leagues, levels and saturation of the market. I am ever grateful to be leaving this but I was involved with GA Soccer deeply enough for long enough to still care what it will become. I don't recall telling him to leave his club...I could care less whether his kids play at UFA or not. I just don't buy that he says who he says he is. He or she is enjoying watching people panic with wrong information. Where other people play doesn't affect me personally or my children. You bring up the argument you had with Oraclesfriend a few days ago, and the one you had with me a last year? Seriously, move on. But you do bring up a great point, you don't know me...and I have more than one kid...and this may affect my other kid. I just choose not to base my decisions on forum gossip. So in reality, this affect me but no you, because as you have stated a lot of times, your kid is going off to college to play soccer next year. And i believe the word is vitriol...
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2018 23:29:14 GMT -5
soccermom - Take your own stance. i'm not lying. I have a very high up resource and I believe it. But suit yourself. If you find the information lacking credibility then let's touch base on here after tryouts and see where your opinion stands. Amazing that people still shoot the messenger rather than bothering to ask management for simple clarification on their actual position. If you do not want to ask club management then call Georgia Soccer and ask them what was said today. SoccerMom practically runs UFA, she is a silent owner but I’ve said too much. OK, seriously PLEASE don’t worry about the changes until they are announced. Seek answers from your club and just do what’s best for your son or daughter with what comes out and hopefully we will know in the next week or so. Oh gosh no! Please don't start that rumor!! But I did ask management myself about this today and in the past weeks when it was all coming down. I can't base my decisions on stuff on here, I have to get facts. I also asked someone from the non big 5...I like to hear both sides of everything. When the announcement is made, if it doesn't work for my kid, then I will make a decision then as should everyone. All I was told was that the other teams will continue playing in GA Soccer.
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Post by spectator on Apr 24, 2018 23:32:38 GMT -5
WOW! Speaking of vitrol . . . I'm not saying anything more than how hypocritical it is for someone (oraclesfriend) who insisted it was not fair to tell people to just leave their clubs to tell this guy - whomever he is - to just leave his club. And I believe I did just that without stooping to insulting a poster by calling him a bored troll behind a keyboard. How do I know you aren't some pimply kid in mom's basement stirring things up here - I don't you any more than you 'know' me. It's a forum - with enough anonymity to let people feel safe and enough transparency for us to be able to keep it civil and honest. Not too long ago, you jumped all over me for being rude and harsh to a newbie in a conversation about referees - how about you read what you just wrote and adjust your tone? I believe in my case, I simply disagreed with someone - I never called anyone a troll or accused them of creating panic. You are coming across as judgmental and cliquish - are you the voice of UFA? Do you know everything happening in every league and team? No you do and are not - you have no idea what this guy knows or doesn't know but to immediately dismiss him as a troll just because he isn't chugging your UFA Kool Ade, is ridiculous! Of course this decision - whatever it is - doesn't affect you - your kid plays, DA, right? Easy for you to tell people to chill out. Have a little empathy for what other people are experiencing here - this reads like one hot mess for teams and players - I personally don't give a rats a$$ about the clubs - this is YOUTH soccer - operative word YOUTH. I still see no value in pulling out of one league or another and creating layer upon layer of teams for anyone other than the clubs cashing the checks and the parents egos to brag about where their kid plays. I care about kids who want to play this game and I think many of them are about to get royally screwed over. I can't blame any parent for worrying about the landscape next year. I have no dog in this hunt other than the many many years I was part of GA Soccer while my kid played and will end her time playing in GA Soccer. I've seen this evolve from Classic/Athena and one level of RPL to this craziness of multiple leagues, levels and saturation of the market. I am ever grateful to be leaving this but I was involved with GA Soccer deeply enough for long enough to still care what it will become. I don't recall telling him to leave his club...I could care less whether his kids play at UFA or not. I just don't buy that he says who he says he is. He or she is enjoying watching people panic with wrong information. Where other people play doesn't affect me personally or my children. You bring up the argument you had with Oraclesfriend a few days ago, and the one you had with me a last year? Seriously, move on. But you do bring up a great point, you don't know me...and I have more than one kid...and this may affect my other kid. I just choose not to base my decisions on forum gossip. So in reality, this affect me but no you, because as you have stated a lot of times, your kid is going off to college to play soccer next year. Um - YOU didn't mention leaving the club - if you'd read what you respond to before posting, you'd have known I was pointing out how another person stated how it wasn't easy to leave a club - that was oraclesfriend and it was hardly an 'argument'. SOME people here are capable of conversation without judgement and pettiness. I believe he (or she) and I had a pretty decent exchange and I agreed with many of the points raised in that thread. Again, you focus on what you want to read - I've never ever ever accused a poster here of being a troll - will you please at the very least own up to your actions? As for my typo, again, you only see part of what people say not the entire thought. Pardon my fat fingers - I mistyped a word - sue me!!! But you were rude to a new poster and that is what you called me out on a while back - so it's fine for you to be a complete jerk and not others??? As for moving on - I have - just pointing out that your behavior toward this new poster is nothing different than what you went after me for last year - funny how when the tables turn the hypocrisy rears its head? Hope you and your kids fare well with whatever next year brings - but please try to be nicer to new posters on this forum so it will grow. I've been here since day two and I do think it's been a positive experience for the most part - informative with intelligent sane people giving different opinions and engaging conversations - I would like it to continue to be a positive resource for others!
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 24, 2018 23:34:09 GMT -5
So I’m missing where it says all the clubs that you listed are kicked out? Not just those clubs, Impact, Smyrna, AFC, RYSA all have Super Y. Does AFC and SSA choice NL/RPL/Peidmont league or NPL next year? I was told by one of those clubs that they will not play Super Y. AFC is no longer part of NPL I don't think? They used to have girls but I'm not sure anymore? SSA cant play Piedmont League if they stay like they are now. They have NPL and Champions League, so I guess they will have to decide?
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Apr 25, 2018 4:30:42 GMT -5
AFC boys and girls did play NPL this year.
Seems like SSA got the worst end of this deal. This would effect their top teams including at least a few that have already qualified for Premier RPL and/or National League. They are the only club in this Big 5 that does not have DA or ECNL. So now their top teams play NPL only? That is a stretch of a selling point.
And... what about ODP? Can players from those clubs tryout? If not, Georgia Soccer can officially kiss that program goodbye.
US Club Soccer should jump on this and realize how many clubs they have between ECNL, NPL, and Champions League and create a tiered promotion/relegation league. But that won't happen any time soon.
In the mean time... Tell me what team/player did the Big 5 OR Georgia Soccer think they were doing a service to in this stupid battle of egos? I can't think of one that is benefitting from this.
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 25, 2018 5:53:45 GMT -5
If your kid plays ECNL or DA then this should not affect you at all and I apologize for wasting your valuable time. I'm sorry.
But if your kid is lower level then ECNL or DA then I think this might affect you. Canary in a coal mine. I personally think the canary died. I am simply suggesting to everyone else that you get out of the mine or at least take a moment to check the canary.
I trust my source of information. I am only suggesting you reach out to your club management and ask what is going on. Personally I thought that was better than getting blindsided.
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 25, 2018 6:07:41 GMT -5
In the mean time... Tell me what team/player did the Big 5 OR Georgia Soccer think they were doing a service to in this stupid battle of egos? I can't think of one that is benefitting from this. This is simplified version to avoid wasting time of parents with top level kids that are not affected but I was told the conversation went something like this: Georgia Soccer Leader: Why are you forming Champions League? It will compete against Georgia Soccer.Club Leader: it's just business man.Georgia Soccer Leader: You don't want RPLClub Leader: Correct, we don't want RPLGeorgia Soccer Leader: OkClub Leader: Why do you ask? Georgia Soccer Leader: Oh, not important because you don't want RPL.Club Leader: What is it?Georgia Soccer Leader: Board voted to take away RPL for any club in a competing League. Doesn't affect you. Club Leader: What? That's not fair.Georgia Soccer Leader: it's just business man. Club Leader: That's not fair.Georgia Soccer Leader: You said you didn't want RPL and you didn't care. Club Leader: We are pulling all our teams out of Georgia Soccer.(phone hangs up)
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 25, 2018 6:42:49 GMT -5
My source thinks the CF, GSA, NTH, SSA and UFA were all planning to pull out of Georgia Soccer in the long run. It was simply a planned phased approach. Pull out one layer of teams now. Pull out more the following year.
Georgia Soccer's move simply escalated the timeline of the plan.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 25, 2018 6:47:54 GMT -5
You really hate Iggy, don't you? It is my understanding that all of the big 5 clubs WANTED out of RPL. They were not kicked out by Georgia Soccer. They felt RPL was a waste of time and travel and was POORLY run. US Club soccer runs ECNL so what makes you think this league will be run "by people that have no clue how to run a league." As I said before I did not want the Champions League and I surely did not want all of the big 5 teams out of Athena and Classic, but the vitriol you are putting into your posts is a bit much. I guess you feel betrayed. If you don't like it, do what Soccerhouse mentioned and tell the club. Exercise your right to leave and go somewhere else if it is no longer the right fit for you and your child. I hope the info you have is accurate though because you will look like an idiot if it isn't. As for CF and TH 1) we don't know that they both will keep both DA and ECNL as there are still rumors about that 2) they have many more teams that will also be affected. Tophat has 4-5 teams aside from their DA and ECNL teams on the girls side. Concorde does as well. There are a lot of kids in 3rd, 4th, 5th teams and secondary locations that will be affected by this if you are correct in your info. Btw there are other states that have this type of structure. The sky is not falling. Now be fair here - you're telling this poster to do exactly what I responded to you and you pushed back that it wasn't easy to just up and leave a club - perhaps this person is in the same boat and is passionate about this topic. I have no dog in this hunt but will point out hypocrisy with I see it - you can't just dismiss and tell someone to do what you, yourself argued wasn't an option for you Hear the guy out - this is a huge change for clubs and teams - and most of all players. Seems no one is even remotely worried about what these kids want or are concerned about. I understand what you are saying BUT he already said his whole team was going to up and leave for another club hence not hypocrisy. He also expressed not only was it an option for him but he calmed down his rants when he said he was going to do it. But thanks for trying to point it out. I don't need that.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 25, 2018 6:49:47 GMT -5
Now be fair here - you're telling this poster to do exactly what I responded to you and you pushed back that it wasn't easy to just up and leave a club - perhaps this person is in the same boat and is passionate about this topic. I have no dog in this hunt but will point out hypocrisy with I see it - you can't just dismiss and tell someone to do what you, yourself argued wasn't an option for you Hear the guy out - this is a huge change for clubs and teams - and most of all players. Seems no one is even remotely worried about what these kids want or are concerned about. I understand what you are saying BUT he already said his whole team was going to up and leave for another club hence not hypocrisy. He also expressed not only was it an option for him but he calmed down his rants when he said he was going to do it. But thanks for trying to point it out. I don't need that. Oh and I did not dismiss him. I have the same concerns. I just told him to call down and wait until the announcement and he has 6 weeks to make a decision. I did not insult him like some others did.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Apr 25, 2018 6:53:30 GMT -5
Whoever this person is just spreading false information, I also talked to someone I'm sure knows more than your "source", the clubs are not leaving GA Soccer nor are they being kicked out.
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Post by betonsoccer on Apr 25, 2018 6:58:48 GMT -5
I also talked to someone I'm sure knows more than your "source", the clubs are not leaving GA Soccer nor are they being kicked out. I hope you are right. My information is different but I hope your information is correct.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 25, 2018 7:36:55 GMT -5
Some points after reading a lot of the discussion:
1. NPL is run by US Club Soccer, so if US Club Soccer is also running SCCL (which I understand to be the case), then you should notice an improvement in the administration. 2. NPL is not exactly a feeder team to ECNL (I've seen nothing about promotion from NPL to ECNL). I have seen that top NPL teams will play in the ENPL (playoffs) against ECNL teams.
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 25, 2018 7:53:33 GMT -5
Some points after reading a lot of the discussion: 1. NPL is run by US Club Soccer, so if US Club Soccer is also running SCCL (which I understand to be the case), then you should notice an improvement in the administration. 2. NPL is not exactly a feeder team to ECNL (I've seen nothing about promotion from NPL to ECNL). I have seen that top NPL teams will play in the ENPL (playoffs) against ECNL teams. Correct, NPL is not a feeder to ECNL winner just competes in Championship if they win
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