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Post by 04gparent on May 29, 2018 21:12:12 GMT -5
Anyone care to share your thoughts from tryouts night number 1? More kids than you expected? Organized or disorganized?
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Post by soccerfan30 on May 29, 2018 21:37:15 GMT -5
Good turnout for the NTH 06's at Lake Point
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Post by parentsoccerfan on May 29, 2018 21:47:22 GMT -5
Lots of Concorde Fire players at NTH ID sessions on the boys side.
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Post by throughball on May 29, 2018 22:08:54 GMT -5
Lots of Concorde Fire players at NTH ID sessions on the boys side. We saw the same. It was kind of a bummer they combined SCCL, ECNL, and DA together due to the weather as we were strictly interested in SCCL.
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Post by Keeper on May 29, 2018 22:13:06 GMT -5
Lots of Inter Atlanta and TYSA kids at Chiefs at Pleasantdale. Rain was annoying but decent turn out with the rain and competing with Dekalb Swim meets.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 30, 2018 10:08:11 GMT -5
Good Turnout at the SSA South location especially for the 06B's
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 30, 2018 10:14:03 GMT -5
Good Turnout at the SSA South location especially for the 06B's DA or regular 06s?
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Post by footy on May 30, 2018 12:10:48 GMT -5
For those of you seeing players from other teams try out at a club, are they wearing their actual gear from the other team, or do you just know they're new? My kids have always worn non-club gear when trying out at a new place. Curious about the pros/cons.
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Post by 04gparent on May 30, 2018 12:12:52 GMT -5
For those of you seeing players from other teams try out at a club, are they wearing their actual gear from the other team, or do you just know they're new? My kids have always worn non-club gear when trying out at a new place. Curious about the pros/cons. Both. I have seen girls this year wear their old club training clothes and others wear nondescript training clothes... Not sure if effective yet. I guess we will see when the teams are announced.
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Post by soccerfan30 on May 30, 2018 12:31:03 GMT -5
A number of girls showed up at NTH tryouts wearing their ODP practice shirt, I'm sure it was the parent's idea.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 30, 2018 14:46:57 GMT -5
Good Turnout at the SSA South location especially for the 06B's DA or regular 06s? Regular 06's, but I have friends that went to the DA tryouts at the main location for SSA, and they said there were a lot of kids there as well. I also hear MOBA had a lot of kids in most age groups as well, from some friends that left SSA. They said a ton of kids were in there AFC training gear. So I guess AFC is still bleeding kids to this MOBA experiment. My kid loves SSA, and we aren't going anywhere, but I have never faulted any parent for looking at their options. Sometimes my kid's perfect fit is not another kids perfect fit. So I have never had any animosity for kids that have played on my son's team trying out elsewhere. So that kind of stuff doesn't bother me. No reason for a kid to stay on a team he hates. It doesn't help the team. It would only bother me if we didn't have enough kids to field a quality team.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 30, 2018 15:01:16 GMT -5
I’ve seen it all the ODP shirts were at the ECNL and DA pre camps but last night the red Concorde shirts stood out against all the grey at AFU and UFA. And my girls wore neon because “it’s not like I ever get to wear it any other time”.
I like the few times we were told to wear all black or black shorts and white tops.
One year the coach told my players team to wear their practice uniform and they just ran regular training practice and occasionally a new player was sent over from the other tryout fields.
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Post by 442player on May 30, 2018 16:37:18 GMT -5
Regular 06's, but I have friends that went to the DA tryouts at the main location for SSA, and they said there were a lot of kids there as well. I also hear MOBA had a lot of kids in most age groups as well, from some friends that left SSA. They said a ton of kids were in there AFC training gear. So I guess AFC is still bleeding kids to this MOBA experiment. My kid loves SSA, and we aren't going anywhere, but I have never faulted any parent for looking at their options. Sometimes my kid's perfect fit is not another kids perfect fit. So I have never had any animosity for kids that have played on my son's team trying out elsewhere. So that kind of stuff doesn't bother me. No reason for a kid to stay on a team he hates. It doesn't help the team. It would only bother me if we didn't have enough kids to field a quality team. Strange AFC had big numbers for the DA tryouts! 07's and 06's had a few SSA kids and GSA kids in attendance.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 30, 2018 22:07:11 GMT -5
Can't remember, but could this be as a result of CF Souths demise... so folks are just transitioning to AFC?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 31, 2018 9:58:24 GMT -5
Regular 06's, but I have friends that went to the DA tryouts at the main location for SSA, and they said there were a lot of kids there as well. I also hear MOBA had a lot of kids in most age groups as well, from some friends that left SSA. They said a ton of kids were in there AFC training gear. So I guess AFC is still bleeding kids to this MOBA experiment. My kid loves SSA, and we aren't going anywhere, but I have never faulted any parent for looking at their options. Sometimes my kid's perfect fit is not another kids perfect fit. So I have never had any animosity for kids that have played on my son's team trying out elsewhere. So that kind of stuff doesn't bother me. No reason for a kid to stay on a team he hates. It doesn't help the team. It would only bother me if we didn't have enough kids to field a quality team. Strange AFC had big numbers for the DA tryouts! 07's and 06's had a few SSA kids and GSA kids in attendance. I heard from a parent that left our team to go to MOBA. He made their top 06B team, and is now on the team with 6 of AFC's former top team 06B DA players. It seems the DA players from AFC from last year followed their old coach from two years ago over because they didn't like the current coach of DA over there. From their record in DA last year, I can't say that I'm surprised. From what I hear from some SSA DA players the U12 DA team at AFC lost the majority of their games last season. Since DA doesn't keep up with the U12 game scores, I don't know how accurate that is, but I assume it is probably true. I know their U13 DA team only won like 6 games last season. So it seems like coaching issues over there causing current AFC kids to leave, and then I guess they are being filled by former Concorde South players and the occasional SSA kid along with currenty 2nd team and leftover DA players from their last year U12 DA 2nd team.
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Post by justaparent on May 31, 2018 10:35:31 GMT -5
Strange AFC had big numbers for the DA tryouts! 07's and 06's had a few SSA kids and GSA kids in attendance. I heard from a parent that left our team to go to MOBA. He made their top 06B team, and is now on the team with 6 of AFC's former top team 06B DA players. It seems the DA players from AFC from last year followed their old coach from two years ago over because they didn't like the current coach of DA over there. From their record in DA last year, I can't say that I'm surprised. From what I hear from some SSA DA players the U12 DA team at AFC lost the majority of their games last season. Since DA doesn't keep up with the U12 game scores, I don't know how accurate that is, but I assume it is probably true. I know their U13 DA team only won like 6 games last season. So it seems like coaching issues over there causing current AFC kids to leave, and then I guess they are being filled by former Concorde South players and the occasional SSA kid along with currenty 2nd team and leftover DA players from their last year U12 DA 2nd team. I'll try to provide a little balance to some of the things you've heard. The 04 AFC DA team did mostly leave for MOBA last year. It wasn't all about not liking the AFC coach though. There is a complicated relationship with one of the parents and the coach and that's all I'll ever say about that. Bottom line is that most of that team did leave for MOBA and it clearly hurt AFC at the 04 Boys age group. Their record is more of a reflection of the talent that left instead of the coaching. That same coach has two other teams in the final four of State Cup. Can he not coach? The 05 AFC DA team struggled early in the year as they also had some defections to MOBA. But coach Mucillo coached those boys up and turned them into a hard-working, competitive group. This past weekend, they beat LSA DA 9-0 and tied SSA DA 0-0 (The same team that you are hearing about how bad they were). There is apparently an influx of Concorde 05s that should give this team some needed depth. If anyone wants to leave the AFC 05s, because of poor coaching from Mucillo then I'm not sure what they're looking for. This team is not the same as they were in September/October, but it's the same players. The 06 DA has a roster of 24-25 that has to get down to 18 for this year's team. That's just DA rules. The 05 team also had 3 06s playing up on it. So, if they come back down to the 06 roster, it's even tighter to make the roster of 18 for next year. Some players have to leave. Coach Hall appears to be doing a great job with that team as well. I occasionally hear bad things about coaches, but I haven't heard anything negative in his direction. Several players from AFC 06 DA just aren't going to make the team next year. Roster size won't allow it and MOBA would be a great option for them if they don't like the AFC Gold team.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 31, 2018 10:50:39 GMT -5
Feedback For What It's Worth
One club's director is clearly not interested in club shoppers and announced to parents and players on day one that to be considered for a team they must tryout ALL THREE NIGHTS.
Meanwhile a different club we attended for a pre-tryout camp sent us an email today saying they missed seeing the players at tryouts and reminding us that we only have one night left and hope to see them there tonight.
And lastly at tryouts last night club coaches were making some verbal team offers and looking for commitments. Don't you love it when an 11 year old climbs in the car after tryouts and says. "I verbally committed yes to my offer for the team tonight".
I was like "Did you negotiate good contract terms?" or at least "tell them you have to talk to your manager?"
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Post by soccerfan30 on May 31, 2018 11:10:40 GMT -5
This is BS, you better believe if Alex Morgan showed up for one night on the last day of tryouts any coach would take her in a NY minute. No coach would say. well you didn't the attend the first two nights, sorry we can't take you. Its just a ploy to hold kids hostage and not allow them to explore their options.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 31, 2018 11:32:02 GMT -5
This is BS, you better believe if Alex Morgan showed up for one night on the last day of tryouts any coach would take her in a NY minute. No coach would say. well you didn't the attend the first two nights, sorry we can't take you. Its just a ploy to hold kids hostage and not allow them to explore their options. Just STOP you. Trying to use logic and reason in youth sports! LOL I didn't say I believed it ... I'm just reporting it. LOL And I agree ... This is Academy age plus the rising U13's. This is a pretty literal age group especially girls. LOL I think it's outrageous to say that to an age group 8-12.
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Post by atlsoccer on May 31, 2018 11:55:53 GMT -5
This is BS, you better believe if Alex Morgan showed up for one night on the last day of tryouts any coach would take her in a NY minute. No coach would say. well you didn't the attend the first two nights, sorry we can't take you. Its just a ploy to hold kids hostage and not allow them to explore their options. I 99% agree with this. I only want to add two things. Forcing a player to be at every night of tryouts is definitely a ploy. But if every kid only went to one night of tryouts at three different places, it would be a mess. But this is generally a handful of players (in my experience) and shouldn't be an issue. If you do plan to only be at one or two nights of tryouts and it is at a new club where they do not know your child, you should definitely let them know up front. The need to focus more on your kid when he/she is there and this is even more true if they likely will not be on the top team. I'd hate for them to show up to the first night of tryouts hoping to make the B team, only to find out the B team coach didn't really pay attention until the top team was selected.
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Post by 442player on May 31, 2018 12:30:03 GMT -5
Strange AFC had big numbers for the DA tryouts! 07's and 06's had a few SSA kids and GSA kids in attendance. I heard from a parent that left our team to go to MOBA. He made their top 06B team, and is now on the team with 6 of AFC's former top team 06B DA players. It seems the DA players from AFC from last year followed their old coach from two years ago over because they didn't like the current coach of DA over there. From their record in DA last year, I can't say that I'm surprised. From what I hear from some SSA DA players the U12 DA team at AFC lost the majority of their games last season. Since DA doesn't keep up with the U12 game scores, I don't know how accurate that is, but I assume it is probably true. I know their U13 DA team only won like 6 games last season. So it seems like coaching issues over there causing current AFC kids to leave, and then I guess they are being filled by former Concorde South players and the occasional SSA kid along with currenty 2nd team and leftover DA players from their last year U12 DA 2nd team. LOL. Stop with the BS
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Post by justaparent on May 31, 2018 12:50:32 GMT -5
I heard from a parent that left our team to go to MOBA. He made their top 06B team, and is now on the team with 6 of AFC's former top team 06B DA players. It seems the DA players from AFC from last year followed their old coach from two years ago over because they didn't like the current coach of DA over there. From their record in DA last year, I can't say that I'm surprised. From what I hear from some SSA DA players the U12 DA team at AFC lost the majority of their games last season. Since DA doesn't keep up with the U12 game scores, I don't know how accurate that is, but I assume it is probably true. I know their U13 DA team only won like 6 games last season. So it seems like coaching issues over there causing current AFC kids to leave, and then I guess they are being filled by former Concorde South players and the occasional SSA kid along with currenty 2nd team and leftover DA players from their last year U12 DA 2nd team. LOL. Stop with the BS This same poster was trying to spread false rumors about AFC this time last year as well. They claim to not have a problem with AFC, but it's happening again. They also claim that they are "hearing" these things from others, but they find the false rumors credible enough to take the time to post it here. This poster has serious credibility issues even if they claim they are posting second hand info. It's dangerous because if I hadn't had first hand knowledge of these situations, I would probably believe them.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 31, 2018 13:00:43 GMT -5
I heard from a parent that left our team to go to MOBA. He made their top 06B team, and is now on the team with 6 of AFC's former top team 06B DA players. It seems the DA players from AFC from last year followed their old coach from two years ago over because they didn't like the current coach of DA over there. From their record in DA last year, I can't say that I'm surprised. From what I hear from some SSA DA players the U12 DA team at AFC lost the majority of their games last season. Since DA doesn't keep up with the U12 game scores, I don't know how accurate that is, but I assume it is probably true. I know their U13 DA team only won like 6 games last season. So it seems like coaching issues over there causing current AFC kids to leave, and then I guess they are being filled by former Concorde South players and the occasional SSA kid along with currenty 2nd team and leftover DA players from their last year U12 DA 2nd team. I'll try to provide a little balance to some of the things you've heard. The 04 AFC DA team did mostly leave for MOBA last year. It wasn't all about not liking the AFC coach though. There is a complicated relationship with one of the parents and the coach and that's all I'll ever say about that. Bottom line is that most of that team did leave for MOBA and it clearly hurt AFC at the 04 Boys age group. Their record is more of a reflection of the talent that left instead of the coaching. That same coach has two other teams in the final four of State Cup. Can he not coach? The 05 AFC DA team struggled early in the year as they also had some defections to MOBA. But coach Mucillo coached those boys up and turned them into a hard-working, competitive group. This past weekend, they beat LSA DA 9-0 and tied SSA DA 0-0 (The same team that you are hearing about how bad they were). There is apparently an influx of Concorde 05s that should give this team some needed depth. If anyone wants to leave the AFC 05s, because of poor coaching from Mucillo then I'm not sure what they're looking for. This team is not the same as they were in September/October, but it's the same players. The 06 DA has a roster of 24-25 that has to get down to 18 for this year's team. That's just DA rules. The 05 team also had 3 06s playing up on it. So, if they come back down to the 06 roster, it's even tighter to make the roster of 18 for next year. Some players have to leave. Coach Hall appears to be doing a great job with that team as well. I occasionally hear bad things about coaches, but I haven't heard anything negative in his direction. Several players from AFC 06 DA just aren't going to make the team next year. Roster size won't allow it and MOBA would be a great option for them if they don't like the AFC Gold team.
First of all none of what I said was purposely trying to slander anyone. I don't have a dog in this hunt as my kid isn't going to MOBA or AFC, nor do I have any animosity toward either group. Well I take that back. I don't like MOBA due to the way they are recruiting coaches and stealing whole teams with those coaches. I think that is just low down, but they are the shiny new club with turf fields down there, so I understand why people are flocking there. I just heard what I heard from parents I know. Whether or not those parents are truthful or the parents they talked to (The AFC DA players that went to MOBA) were truthful is a whole other thing. I could very well see those DA player's parents that knew they were going to be cut act as if their kid was on the top team and just left due to coaching. I mean most parents obviously wouldn't admit to another parent their kid was likely going to be cut from a team at another club. So I will give you that maybe what I reported has partial truths in it but likely had some exaggerations from those parents as well. I'm just putting it all out there based on what I heard and was told. Again no animosity to anyone here. For the record I like Steve Mucillio. My son has taken numerous camps over the summer and winter months of his. He is a good coach.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 31, 2018 13:02:01 GMT -5
This same poster was trying to spread false rumors about AFC this time last year as well. They claim to not have a problem with AFC, but it's happening again. They also claim that they are "hearing" these things from others, but they find the false rumors credible enough to take the time to post it here. This poster has serious credibility issues even if they claim they are posting second hand info. It's dangerous because if I hadn't had first hand knowledge of these situations, I would probably believe them.
No I did not spread anything last year. I did not talk about anything last year to my knowledge except for when someone asked about the Southside clubs. I gave them an honest answer to it, and if you go back to my posts you will see that I even promoted AFC as a viable option for DA versus having to travel all the way up to Marietta to play DA for SSA. I don't even think I was on this board last year much at all except in a reading mode. I haven't posted much if ever until the last 4-6 months or so. My only other post about AFC was that they accepted like 40-50 kids two years ago in the 06B age group after promising a former player of ours there would only be 30 kids accepted. Then ended up having 4-5 teams instead of 3 like they were promised. That parent then asked to be let out of his contract and came back to SSA to play the fall and spring that year since it wasn't what they were promised at tryouts. It is what it is on that. That was before Steve took over, and all that info above I didn't even put in any post in my past history if you look. I got no issues with AFC, and if they were closer for us training field wise it would be a consideration for our kid. So please quit spreading rumors about me as well.
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Post by justaparent on May 31, 2018 13:21:27 GMT -5
No I did not spread anything last year. I did not talk about anything last year to my knowledge except for when someone asked about the Southside clubs. I gave them an honest answer to it, and if you go back to my posts you will see that I even promoted AFC as a viable option for DA versus having to travel all the way up to Marietta to play DA for SSA. I don't even think I was on this board last year much at all except in a reading mode. I haven't posted much if ever until the last 4-6 months or so. My only other post about AFC was that they accepted like 40-50 kids two years ago in the 06B age group after promising a former player of ours there would only be 30 kids accepted. Then ended up having 4-5 teams instead of 3 like they were promised. That parent then asked to be let out of his contract and came back to SSA to play the fall and spring that year since it wasn't what they were promised at tryouts. It is what it is on that. That was before Steve took over, and all that info above I didn't even put in any post in my past history if you look. I got no issues with AFC, and if they were closer for us training field wise it would be a consideration for our kid. So please quit spreading rumors about me as well. That was the post I remember. You said that AFC offered a half price deal for a certain age group which led to 4-5 teams at that age group. It just didn't happen. I understand that you are just saying what you heard, but when it's not true, it's dangerous.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 31, 2018 13:42:02 GMT -5
No I did not spread anything last year. I did not talk about anything last year to my knowledge except for when someone asked about the Southside clubs. I gave them an honest answer to it, and if you go back to my posts you will see that I even promoted AFC as a viable option for DA versus having to travel all the way up to Marietta to play DA for SSA. I don't even think I was on this board last year much at all except in a reading mode. I haven't posted much if ever until the last 4-6 months or so. My only other post about AFC was that they accepted like 40-50 kids two years ago in the 06B age group after promising a former player of ours there would only be 30 kids accepted. Then ended up having 4-5 teams instead of 3 like they were promised. That parent then asked to be let out of his contract and came back to SSA to play the fall and spring that year since it wasn't what they were promised at tryouts. It is what it is on that. That was before Steve took over, and all that info above I didn't even put in any post in my past history if you look. I got no issues with AFC, and if they were closer for us training field wise it would be a consideration for our kid. So please quit spreading rumors about me as well. That was the post I remember. You said that AFC offered a half price deal for a certain age group which led to 4-5 teams at that age group. It just didn't happen. I understand that you are just saying what you heard, but when it's not true, it's dangerous. There are always 3 sides to a story...what one person says, what another person says and the truth. Fact is that rarely is there a "truth" to anything...there is only someone's perception.
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Post by justaparent on May 31, 2018 13:49:28 GMT -5
That was the post I remember. You said that AFC offered a half price deal for a certain age group which led to 4-5 teams at that age group. It just didn't happen. I understand that you are just saying what you heard, but when it's not true, it's dangerous. There are always 3 sides to a story...what one person says, what another person says and the truth. Fact is that rarely is there a "truth" to anything...there is only someone's perception. This is valuable advice in situations where you are evaluating subjective information. But, when you are talking about information that can be fact-checked, the facts do exist.
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Post by soccergator on May 31, 2018 14:37:37 GMT -5
From my impressions - I felt the 06 DA team at AFC was the most improved team from August to May in the u12 group. So my conclusions would be the coach did a great job this year with that group.
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Post by spectator on May 31, 2018 21:36:56 GMT -5
A number of girls showed up at NTH tryouts wearing their ODP practice shirt, I'm sure it was the parent's idea. LOL. Like all the years the Top Hat girls showed up at ODP tryouts in their TopHat shorts. Hey - glad to see someone still showing a little respect for ODP. Maybe its not dead yet after all
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 1, 2018 6:23:12 GMT -5
There are always 3 sides to a story...what one person says, what another person says and the truth. Fact is that rarely is there a "truth" to anything...there is only someone's perception. This is valuable advice in situations where you are evaluating subjective information. But, when you are talking about information that can be fact-checked, the facts do exist. Fact checks from where? I don't know anything personally about this issue (AFC and Moba boys) but I know that parents are offered and told things by the club that aren't always true. And how much money someone pays is often a personal matter that others don't have "facts" on unless they happened to be in charge of the club's finances. I never view anything from a parent's mouth or a coach's mouth of even a director's mouth as "fact."
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