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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 10, 2015 19:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 8, 2015 16:08:12 GMT -5
That picture speaks volumes as to why we are way behind in the soccer world. Until soccer becomes a part of our culture and kids are playing on their own all the time like kids in other countries we'll always be playing catch up. Forget the Jurgen argument, we simply don't have the players to compete.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 27, 2015 15:51:47 GMT -5
Don't think so- heard TH White beat Lanier 4-1 today but don't know for sure.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 23, 2015 17:59:53 GMT -5
I'm not agreeing to anything. Prior to the 02's I was with the 97 Boys for four years, most of the boys returned every year unless they made DA teams, can't do DA and ODP.
Clearly you have an agenda or an axe to grind, come right out and say why you think people are dissatisfied.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 23, 2015 17:46:17 GMT -5
You are implying customer dissatisfaction and it may have nothing to do with that at all. There has always been attrition as the players get older, as they transition from two teams to one at the older age groups. High school players also have more demands in their time or maybe have secured a college offer and don't feel like they need ODP anymore.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 23, 2015 17:18:44 GMT -5
One has to question the ODP programs continued decline in numbers. If a program is successful the numbers should be huge. Several age groups struggled to have enough for a team. Told 99s cut none and all 01s made it. Something is causing your program decline in numbers? Customers dissatisfied? I wouldn't say a big decline, the older groups are impacted by DA and ECNL, so most of the top players are taken out of the mix as due to participation in DA and ECNL. Add in players that participate in NL/R3PL and travel every weekend it's hard to add another commitment to the table. Our group has had a 95% return rate the last two years so it seems everyone is happy with the way it's going. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 22, 2015 13:50:02 GMT -5
This is a difficult time of year for parents and players alike that are involved in the ODP tryout process. Since someone mentioned the 02 Boys group I will add a few comments from my perspective as I've been involved with this group for two (now going on three) years.
1. It's a one day (sometimes two day) process and it's difficult to assess that many players, if your kid doesn't show well for whatever reason they have an option for a second look if there is a potential oversight. Look at professional teams (someone mentioned football), they have seven figure recruiting budget, hours of game film, broadcasted games, character assessment, psychological profiles, scouts who spend hundreds of hours tracking these players, even they aren't always perfect. I'm sure we can name dozens of first round draft picks in the last decade that were total busts.
2. Claims of politics-I've been involved in a coaching capacity with ODP for the last seven years. No one has ever told or influenced me to select a player, as the saying goes "the eyes don't lie", my assessment is purely based on what I see. Credibility is important for most coaches, they are not going to push a player forward if they don't think they are ready. If I pushed one of my club players onto a college coach and I painted an inaccurate picture of that player that college coach will not value my opinion in the future, I simply wouldn't do that. Honestly since I coach club girls where the ODP boys play club is irrelevant to me and doesn't factor into my decision process.
3. The "the player isn't even a starter on his club team" argument. We are asked to look for particular skill sets, put a premium on technical ability and playing the posession style that GA Soccer/US Soccer is trying to promote. What if a club coach doesn't value a player because maybe he's not a physical specimen or doesn't value technical ability. We've all seen the teams that play speedsters up front that can latch onto long balls, they have a poor first touch, average technical skill but they are successful due to physical gifts. Maybe there are politics that unfairly impact the bench player as to why he doesn't start, you don't know all the dynamics at play. That is the decision/opinion of the club coach, as I have pointed out above sometimes decision makers make mistakes. At ODP tryouts there are five to ten sets of eyes per group. If the majority of the coaches agree on a particular player I'm going to side with the idea that they hopefully got it right.
4. Selection process- we've established that no selection process is 100% accurate but if you can get close to 90% or above that's a good track record. For coaches it's easy to identify the top players in a group, conversely it doesn't take long to identify the bottom third of the group, say you have 30 players in the middle third vying for 20 spots or so, it's much more difficult as all may not have similar attributes: good first touch, ability to play one/two touch, vision, speed of thought, speed of play, technical skill, etc. Most of those players will be good in one or two of those areas but not all, so I ask again how do you determine 30 middle third players for 20 spots? It's not as easy as people think it is, parents have their own emotional investments/bias as well. Now factor in returning players, you have a known commodity vs an unknown one, the new players will have to be better to supplant a returning player.
Feel free to chime in accordingly
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 15, 2015 10:16:15 GMT -5
That CFC team is very good and could probably play B, but I'm sure since their name isn't "Concorde" they had to start from the bottom. They will destroy the D teams. My suggestion would be to play in the Academy Cup and prove it against the perceived top teams, do well in the first or second bracket no one would deny their ability to be placed accordingly |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 14, 2015 21:11:11 GMT -5
Soccerfan30: I agree fully with your first one. That situation is constantly misunderstood. Regarding the second one, I had to Google "soccer LOTG+shoulder charge" and found this.. www.askasoccerreferee.com/?p=2667Which appears to say it's a judgment call so far as size disparity but you have to be attempting to get the ball. Lastly, because I'm just immature, this line was funny: "Referees do not handicap players by saddling them with artificial responsibilities to be easy on an opponent simply because they are better physically endowed in some way". Too much Beavis and Butthead in my late teen years... The issue with #2 is the opposing player must be attempting to tackle the ball, I'm talking about a player that is running full speed and uses their shoulder to essentially hockey check a player, use of the shoulder is irrelevant if they are not making an attempt to tackle the ball. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 14, 2015 20:25:29 GMT -5
My two favorites are:
Goalkeeper has controlled the save with one hand and ball is pinned to the ground clearly saved, opposing player kicks the ball out of the GK's hands, ref correctly blows for a foul amd the opposing parents yell "you have to have two hands on the ball for possession"
Player A is dribbling the ball, opposing player gets 10 yards of full steam and uses her shoulder to take out the player with no attempt to play the ball, ref correctly blows for a foul and opposing "football dad" takes his hand and starts slapping his shoulder yelling "that was all shoulder".
Honorable mention to: "every time a players ends up on the ground it's a foul" parent
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 14, 2015 20:19:44 GMT -5
U12 Columbus Red Star Elite and U12 CGSA girls both playing U13 Athena D and are blowing out the competition. A clubs top team should not he playing against 3rd or 4th teams. It's possible they finish 1 and 2 and move up during the Spring. The flip side is I feel bad for the third place team, had those two U12 teams not been there they would probably move up and now will have to spend another season in D.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 11, 2015 12:44:45 GMT -5
I would stay away from the chain stores, they typically have entry level cleats or couple of the high end models but not much selection especially for female cleats. I know the soccer store on Pleasant Hill Rd and Best Buy Soccer near spaghetti junction typically have a large selection.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 10, 2015 8:06:29 GMT -5
Six additional months in the calendar year isn't going to make up for lack of technical ability or creativity. Changes to the birthday calendar will have no impact on the areas we are deficient in.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 9, 2015 9:32:38 GMT -5
Two games vs USA are officially off
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 4, 2015 12:01:55 GMT -5
The irony is most soccer concussions don't come from heading the ball, rather from head to head clashes, elbows to the temple, head hitting the ground after a tackle. A player will probably head the ball twice in average during the game. Teaching proper heading technique can help minimize any potential injuries. The problem isn't really concussions. The problem is CTE, Chronic Traumatic Encephalitis. It is the repeated trauma over time that doesn't ever appear like a concussion, just a steady decline in brain function, which may not even show up until later. This can lead to not only problems in thinking, but can significantly contribute to depression as well. I fully understand, CTE is mostly attributed to football and the long term impacts of collisions and head injuries to occur pretty much on every play. I've been coaching for almost 14 years and rarely have I seen a team practicing heading driven balls, it's most soft toss from about five yards away either a kneeling, standing or jumping positions. I don't know the stats but I'm willing to bet more players will suffer ACL teara vs symptoms of CTE. Taylor Twellman had to retire due to multiple concussions and is outspoken in regards to safety protocols when players suffer a head injury. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 3, 2015 12:35:49 GMT -5
The irony is most soccer concussions don't come from heading the ball, rather from head to head clashes, elbows to the temple, head hitting the ground after a tackle. A player will probably head the ball twice in average during the game. Teaching proper heading technique can help minimize any potential injuries.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 26, 2015 9:27:00 GMT -5
It's not about not liking someone, I was simply responding to the poster and shared something I knew to be factual based on my prior personal experience and I didn't name anyone. There are all types of people at every club, that includes the club I am at. Wouldn't bother me if you shared an experience about Tophat, as long as I do things the right way, help my players and do right with my families what other people do has no bearing on me, so feel free to share if you feel the need.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 26, 2015 7:55:36 GMT -5
I know a certain coach at KSA like that Absolutely !! The same coach who demands discipline and respect, will make his players run if they are a minute late, keeps them beyond the end of practice time but yet is consistently late himself 70% of the time. Just guessing here..... |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 26, 2015 7:53:48 GMT -5
I know a certain coach at KSA like that Don't we all know a few clubs with coaches like this? The real question is what clubs don't have a coach or two like this. I'm pretty biased but I think just about all the Tophat coaches are on time unless they are coming from another game. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 25, 2015 20:38:44 GMT -5
My son had a coach last year that would show up late to practice on a regular basis. As well as show up for games just before the start (assistant coaches warmed them up) or show up by halftime more than 4 times . I know a certain coach at KSA like that |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 24, 2015 8:28:58 GMT -5
An hour for me and the team prior to the game.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 17, 2015 13:36:09 GMT -5
We live in the entitlement and everyone gets a trophy culture, studies show that this generation of kids are I'll prepared for the realities of life, as illustrated by your examples above.
As a former player and current coach I plan to instill my daughter with values of good work habits, dealing with failures and adversity, personal accountability etc. I see so many tangible examples everyday of "how not to raise your child"
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 16, 2015 16:20:44 GMT -5
Played at CESA many times, fantastic facility and very organized.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 13, 2015 11:43:29 GMT -5
This surely a joke right?
The top 15 U12 Teams are better than any team in Classic V. Other than scheduling issues for Academy games no one can give a legitimate reason that this is for development purposes.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 6, 2015 18:59:30 GMT -5
They are practicing at a nearby park while all of this gets settled is what i have heard. I cant help but think that if it was any other club but ksa this wouldn't be happening? Not true, there are quite a few clubs that get denied GSSA affiliation the first year. To make this out like GA Soccer "is out to get them" is what created some of the problems they had last year. Some of the things mentioned at the Gwinnett Board Meeting the other night are factually incorrect. Many of these problems are from the KSA leadership that they created themselves, as I said before people aren't always the way they portray themselves to be. I'll leave it at that. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 6, 2015 11:46:49 GMT -5
Things aren't always as they appear to be. That's all I'm going to say about this topic.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 6, 2015 11:40:32 GMT -5
Because Platinum is higher than gold and it fits more closely with their established naming convention. The Gold became the pre-ecnl team and Navy was renamed gold etc. Their ECNL team is called Platinum now? The top U13 Tophat Team is called Platinum, they didn't want to use Pre-ECNL for the name, U14 and above top teams will have the ECNL designation in their name. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Jul 20, 2015 9:15:31 GMT -5
At the older age groups DA is impacting the turnout of quality players that would likely participate in ODP. In other states the DA programs may not be in close proximity geographically or not cost effective so you will fun some of the other states are able to retain their best players in ODP.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Jul 17, 2015 13:50:10 GMT -5
We just got out of closing ceremonies a bit ago, the total was 18 I believe for the 2002 Pool from GA, I don't know the 03's that well as I was working with the 02's this past weekend. Think final number was 11 02's and 7 03's
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Post by soccerfan30 on Jul 17, 2015 13:47:40 GMT -5
I believe 7 GA 03's were named to the 2002 region pool, GA had the most total.
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