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Post by infoguy on Dec 21, 2015 10:00:42 GMT -5
Sorry if this was mentioned before, but I understand DA tryouts are after the customary early June-club tryouts? If so, what do people normally do? Do parents/kid tell the club that you want to wait to commit until you know the results of the DA tryouts? Some kids are notified they have made the DA team before the official DA tryouts so they don't have to go to club tryouts. Otherwise yes, wait to commit until after DA tryouts. That can be tricky though because if your kid doesn't make DA and you did not commit to club along with everyone else, the coach/club team may see it as being uncommitted to their team. Footy: one of my initial thoughts is same as you - maybe the coach/club sees attending DA tryouts as being uncommitted to the team. however, if that club is a member of the GA united alliance, then it would seem unreasonable to think that way. In other words, a player isn't necessarily leaving the club if he/she plays for ga united.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 21, 2015 9:42:34 GMT -5
So DA U12 is a different approach than the older age groups? With all due respect, it seems that the older DA teams (GA united and Concorde) is more selective due to the age groupings and the fact that only 2 organizations offer DA?
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Post by infoguy on Dec 21, 2015 9:36:15 GMT -5
It's only fair of course, which I don't have to tell you parents of U14s.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 18, 2015 9:30:46 GMT -5
Sorry if this was mentioned before, but I understand DA tryouts are after the customary early June-club tryouts? If so, what do people normally do? Do parents/kid tell the club that you want to wait to commit until you know the results of the DA tryouts?
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Post by infoguy on Dec 18, 2015 9:26:24 GMT -5
Why is there water in my eyes?? Tito, pass the tissues. (Bonus points and props for anyone who remembers that line!) Abby is unforgettable. But I respect the message The line is from Eddie Murphy "Raw". Thanks for sharing the video. Just great.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 16, 2015 13:20:04 GMT -5
Disagree - current U14 Premier division has 12 teams, new 16U premier division will have 10. Thus - 1-6 stay put and top 2 from each regional division come in to make 10. 7th and 8th in Premier drop to 1st Division, which will have 12 teams, including 10 from the six states (no more sub-regional divisions in 16U age group.) Thus, 9-12 from the Premier division plus all the non-promoted teams from the 1st divisions will have to re-qualify for RPL at state cup. This is only the 16U division by the way. So based on what you're saying...and the way standings are right now for the current U14: UFA will remain in RPL Premier AFU will be relegated to 1st Division Tophat will be relegated to Athena NASA will be promoted to RPL Premier Concorde, SSA & Dacula will be relegated to Athena And then Tophat, Concorde, SSA & Dacula depending on how they finish at State Cup can go back to RPL 1st Division next fall? Is there definitely a Spring season for the U14 RPL teams? My understanding is "no" for the boys.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 15, 2015 15:57:58 GMT -5
I was going to say the same thing. Other than UFA, AFU & NASA...everyone else in GA is fighting for probably 2 slots How's that? Not sure I follow.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 15, 2015 15:11:19 GMT -5
Stevieg: for current U14 (new U16), since teams that finish 7 or 8 place in the premier league are definitely relegated to Division One, then those finishing 9-12 in Premier seems to have to compete with 12 other teams from the 2 division one divisions (1st Division North + 1st Division South = 20 teams less the 4 promoted and the 4 relegated to classic I) for next year's Division One. So at this age, that's 16 teams just from RPL competing for 10 open slots, not to mention the classic I team(s) potentially promoted.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 15, 2015 12:04:56 GMT -5
Stevieg: I am tracking you now. Again, it's hard to imagine that GA soccer would have a hand in relegating a team more than one division (if a lower team from current U14 RPL Premier, for instance, didn't do well enough at State cup). Seems they would apply more criteria.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 15, 2015 11:02:14 GMT -5
Stevieg,
Thanks for responding - if true, what doesn't make sense is to be relegated from Premier to Classic I, skipping Division One entirely. I.e., I doubt any team would be relegated more than one division.
After further review, current U15 (future U17) has 8 teams in Premier league, so teams finishing 7 & 8 would be the bottom 2 (in this case, the double asterisk makes sense).
For current U14 (future U16) with 10 teams in Premier league, I think it's fair to assume that bottom 4 are relegated from current U14 premier league to Division One, since 4 total are promoted to premier from Division One (top 2 from each of the 2 Division one divisions - Division One North and Division One South).
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Post by infoguy on Dec 15, 2015 7:45:55 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. So here's a question based on the document FALL 2016 SRPL EAST DIVISIONS: There's a double asterik that reads "Teams finishing 7 and 8 from the Premier Division will be relegated to the 1st Division". There are 12 teams in the current U14 RPL East. Just to be clear, what happens to teams 9-12?
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Post by infoguy on Dec 14, 2015 11:25:05 GMT -5
So, I promised a revisit after I had a chance to speak with our girls' director. Basically, it's as we have stated. It looks like GA is going with calendar year, but some of the other decisions, like which year gets the RPL slots, will not be decided until the state meeting in January. It seems that our club is going to try and have players play with their years with minimal exceptions. I've heard other clubs will try and keep teams together if they are successful, but I have also heard that the number of playups may be limited by the state or region (or ECNL). Thanks for reporting back. It sounds like RPL will also be calendar year?
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Post by infoguy on Dec 14, 2015 10:30:51 GMT -5
Wow, I read the article. As informed as the author sounds, I do think it boils down to how this age thing affects the individual. I think most of the complaints that I've heard have more to do with parent pride and unnecessary concern over change.
Regarding the author's concern about players playing with kids in different grades, I believe if your child is confident, social and talented, then it should not be a problem.
I hear his concern about U15/8th graders missing Spring club soccer. But as the author points out, that is already an issue ... On that note, why doesn't Georgia Soccer and the Georgia high schools just allow club soccer in the spring anyways -- like Texas? It's not like the HS booster clubs give a crud anyways about the quality of the high school soccer programs (for them, it's all about American football). And currently, the top state players (if you believe DA is the best of the best) aren't allowed to play high school soccer anyways in GA.
As for US producing the top woman's program, heck yes - and I'm proud of it. However, I believe it's more to do with being an advanced nation with equal opportunity vs. having a great youth development program. Because after all, if our youth development program was great, then our men's team would be considered tops. But it isn't, so I applaud the new youth model.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 11, 2015 10:33:59 GMT -5
The whole thing has been handled badly from U.S. Soccer on down. It sounds like Georgia Soccer is implementing the change next season if everyone is preparing to do it. There are definitely going to be some teams split up and I've already had other parents ask me about the birth dates of other players. I foresee a lot of club switching as players try to figure out which clubs have the strongest players per age group. One of my kids was already thinking about switching clubs but this change is going to completely disrupt everything. He was hoping to join a team with some of his friends from school but those boys are all in an older age group. Jash, you are right, this change is not going to benefit anyone other than elite players already on the national team's radar and that is a very, very small group of players. In a few years, however, it will sort itself out at the state level and will probably return to normal. But for players U13 and up, this is really going to disrupt things. My younger son will be forced to skip one age bracket completely. Touchlinedad, I will share one of the better things that I've read on the subject. That is, pay no mind to the U-15, or whatever, designation. Bottom line, kids will play with their birth year. They won't miss a year of soccer.
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Post by infoguy on Dec 9, 2015 7:55:12 GMT -5
Bumping this post up to hear from anyone about the RPL vote, what your respective clubs are communicating, etc. Our coach informally indicated that no one seems to have a clue, but it seems to me that GA Soccer has already adopted the new age chart, and we are all waiting on the RPL vote? Thanks,
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Post by infoguy on Nov 12, 2015 14:02:23 GMT -5
Interesting, because it sounds like they still need to meet for an official next step. But again, as SRPL is USYS Region III, what's to discuss?
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Post by infoguy on Nov 12, 2015 8:09:28 GMT -5
hum -- well so much for that. Age switch is for next year! This explains what GA Soccer will do. I saw some mention of RPL deciding separately on the birth year issue. Since RPL is USYS, seems they have already decided... Is this your understanding?
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Post by infoguy on Oct 28, 2015 8:38:27 GMT -5
I do believe we see this through the lens of how it affects our kids. Of course we do. My kid has a Summer birthday, so my kid has typically been among the youngest on the team. Those were the rules, and we had no choice. My kid performed well - if your kid is a good performer in Select, then you should have nothing to worry about in terms of future performance. My kid also played for a small club, until last year. I feel the overarching challenge with small clubs is recruiting - some do it well, some DON'T. That is, if this change impacts a small club's competitiveness greatly, I believe it's a symptom of a larger disease of that particular club. It is a numbers game, no doubt, but I feel confident predicting which small clubs will continue to put forward competitive teams.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 20, 2015 8:32:38 GMT -5
Here's my read, after absorbing your comments as well (thank you all BTW):
The way the league rules are written under the section "Promotion and Relegation" for the East Region on page 7, "U14 to U15", is describing the transition from U14 to U15. So, I believe the language "Division One Subdivision", again for the East, is referring to the U14 1st Division's E-North and E-South.
While we are still on U14, I do believe there's typo under "Division One". That is, "The four teams relegated from Division One will return to their respective subdivisions of Division One". I believe they meant to say "The four teams relegated from Premier Division...". I base this assumption on the fact that the preceding "Premier Division" section states "The teams that finish in the night through twelfth position of the U14 competition will be relegated to their respective Division One competition."
For current U15s and older in the East, "U15 to U16 ...", 2 teams are relegated from Premier to Division One, and 2 teams from Division One are promoted to Premier. Each state has the option at least of 2 teams in Division One. At the end of the day, it seems that the State Associations choose which 2 teams are to be in the Division.
Welcome your thoughts.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 9, 2015 6:09:53 GMT -5
For the first division, i guess it remains to be seen. Seems that the size of this division would have to be controlled somehow. I am wondering why it would be different than the premier league. I understand equal state representatives for the first year. But, I would expect the same approach as premier league moving forward.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 8, 2015 9:20:01 GMT -5
Could it be that a state is not represented in the RPL, if that state finishes bottom 2 or so in the bracket?
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Post by infoguy on Aug 24, 2015 9:47:07 GMT -5
Does anybody use this site or what other tools do you use to promote your child for college recruiting? I read the other post about email, visiting, etc. But, I was wondering about any online, web-based tools.
Thanks,
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