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Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2019 7:17:05 GMT -5
I believe there's something AFU related in the pipe.
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Post by toddga675 on May 14, 2019 7:53:07 GMT -5
I believe there's something AFU related in the pipe. I think perhaps a modification of the "rich get richer," to something more like the "big get bigger, and the small get small or simply die." New world order for Soccer in Georgia. |
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Post by cleansheet on May 14, 2019 8:43:34 GMT -5
I believe there's something AFU related in the pipe. What would be a smart target for AFU in their footprint? All In FC? Relieve CF of their North branch? Ambush? (Doubtful bc of ties to the Alpharetta govt). |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 8:53:18 GMT -5
Would be interesting with AFU given All in FC's Mark MacKain's breakup with AFU and the suit back in the day.
Doesn't ambush have some rule that x% of each roster needs to be Alpharetta players?
Ambush is basically irrelevant in the modern footprint of youth soccer. KSA is the other interesting one, that we keep hearing rumors about.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2019 9:13:28 GMT -5
Its something I overheard this weekend, which didn't make sense (to me) on the surface and its nothing to do with any of the mentioned clubs. I have no idea if its actually happening, but it will NOT reshape GA Soccer like the NTH/Smyrna acquisition.
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Post by cleansheet on May 14, 2019 9:29:51 GMT -5
Would be interesting with AFU given All in FC's Mark MacKain's breakup with AFU and the suit back in the day. Doesn't ambush have some rule that x% of each roster needs to be Alpharetta players? Ambush is basically irrelevant in the modern footprint of youth soccer. KSA is the other interesting one, that we keep hearing rumors about. Steamers FC Liberty FC All In FC Collins Hill SC All these could be in play for AFU. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 14, 2019 9:51:55 GMT -5
I believe there's something AFU related in the pipe. What would be a smart target for AFU in their footprint? All In FC? Relieve CF of their North branch? Ambush? (Doubtful bc of ties to the Alpharetta govt). AFU should swallow up LSA, that would help them control Hall county. Yes LSA has an “alliance” with tophat but they are not an official merger with tophat. From the nth websites, they don’t even list LSA. If heard the LSA/tophat alliance was only guaranteed for either 2-3 years anyway |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2019 9:57:29 GMT -5
I agree that would make sense. But its nothing within the areas mentioned. It may even be more of a mentoring situation.
Anyways, did the Smyrna families even know this was a possibility or likelihood?
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Post by MAP1 on May 14, 2019 11:09:37 GMT -5
Thought JC just signed a new commitment for a couple of years as DOC. How does a board have this much power? Will this location have SCCL,DPL, DA? Surely TH won't sacrifice their name for a few teams? Don't think there is much higher than Athena B there. However the boys side seems to be good.
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Post by MAP1 on May 14, 2019 11:13:05 GMT -5
What would be a smart target for AFU in their footprint? All In FC? Relieve CF of their North branch? Ambush? (Doubtful bc of ties to the Alpharetta govt). AFU should swallow up LSA, that would help them control Hall county. Yes LSA has an “alliance” with tophat but they are not an official merger with tophat. From the nth websites, they don’t even list LSA. If heard the LSA/tophat alliance was only guaranteed for either 2-3 years anyway So is Smyrna on its on or are they NTH? Can Smyrna go back to its own club years later or has the leadership been given to NTH? |
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Post by cleansheet on May 14, 2019 11:27:38 GMT -5
AFU should swallow up LSA, that would help them control Hall county. Yes LSA has an “alliance” with tophat but they are not an official merger with tophat. From the nth websites, they don’t even list LSA. If heard the LSA/tophat alliance was only guaranteed for either 2-3 years anyway So is Smyrna on its on or are they NTH? Can Smyrna go back to its own club years later or has the leadership been given to NTH? It’s a 100% buyout by NTH. |
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Post by soccerworld1974 on May 14, 2019 11:32:43 GMT -5
Again, good move on NTH's part. Gives then control of a pocket are of players whom generally end up at SSA and are generally very stong in the younger age groups (particular speaking on the boys). If you look at the 05 SSA DA group, almost half that team came from Smyrna. I think this will play big for NTH for the years to come.
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 14, 2019 11:40:13 GMT -5
So will some current SSC coaches go to NTH or be cut? Also, I wonder if the added player pool numbers may factor into NTH getting DA up to the 18/19 age group and becoming another full DA club.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 14, 2019 11:44:38 GMT -5
Opinion only: Coupled with TH going with DA & dropping ECNL, NASA move with Smyrna certainly strengthens the possibility of getting full DA on boys side in 20/21.
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Post by newnan1996 on May 14, 2019 11:51:13 GMT -5
So is Smyrna on its on or are they NTH? Can Smyrna go back to its own club years later or has the leadership been given to NTH? It’s a 100% buyout by NTH. An appropriate time for the playing of "Rains of Castamere." This was brilliantly executed flanking of JC and his team. Going straight to the SSC board of directors and working a deal. No one of leadership left in SSC. It is a total take-over. NTH now 100% owns it, the fields, and all of the players. I always thought it would be SSA that killed SSC but Dave simply plays the game better.
The little clubs were already extreme under dogs in a battle with the Big 6 but this was next level extermination of competition. A club/house destruction worthy of Game of Thrones.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 11:57:10 GMT -5
Comes back to who now takes over Interatlanta -- a precious jewel inside the perimeter.
I also take this as these clubs still don't want to bow down to Atlanta United as lord of the 7 kingdoms
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Post by newnan1996 on May 14, 2019 12:09:44 GMT -5
Comes back to who now takes over Interatlanta -- a precious jewel inside the perimeter. I also take this as these clubs still don't want to bow down to Atlanta United as lord of the 7 kingdoms
Inter Atlanta is remaining unclaimed crown jewel. Much coveted by Concorde Fire. But I don't think CF plays the game of thrones very well. Over the last two years CF has lost far more territory than it has claimed. Losing Concorde North to NTH and losing Concorde South to AFC. The closest claim to a "win" is the deal alliance with SSA. I can't help but wonder if that alliance is why Dave moved on SSC. The move puts Dave much closer to full border war with SSA and it's a good preemptive strike if that CF/SSA alliance turns into a full merger. Most of these DOCs say this is just business, but I think this far more like playing the game of thrones.
After Inter Atlanta the remaining kingdoms/houses will look at the minor houses of Ambush, Roswell, Impact, and AFC.
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 14, 2019 12:11:38 GMT -5
Comes back to who now takes over Interatlanta -- a precious jewel inside the perimeter. I also take this as these clubs still don't want to bow down to Atlanta United as lord of the 7 kingdoms Location wise - would make most sense for CF to want it... but would probably never happen. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 12:18:35 GMT -5
Concorde in hindsight made a strong play giving up the south to get an ally from the north!
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Post by newnan1996 on May 14, 2019 12:23:45 GMT -5
Concorde in hindsight made a strong play giving up the south to get an ally from the north! Sounds like creative spin doctoring. AFC came in and hired all of their coaches at Concorde South, while NTH hired all of the Concorde North coaches. This wasn't a strong play it was a massive coup that CF never saw coming. The move to align with SSA was after taking massive geographical losses.
But that alliance will most likely convert into a full merger eventually which completely explains Dave's blitz attack on SSC.
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Post by cleansheet on May 14, 2019 12:27:16 GMT -5
Opinion only: Coupled with TH going with DA & dropping ECNL, NASA move with Smyrna certainly strengthens the possibility of getting full DA on boys side in 20/21. Good point. If this happens does NASA boys drop ECNL? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2019 12:30:22 GMT -5
I'd personally like to see AFU ally with IAFC, but don't think it'd ever happen.
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Post by atlsoccer on May 14, 2019 12:38:02 GMT -5
Most of us have a much better grasp of the 3-6 mega clubs in the north metro area, but does anything like this happen south of the city? I would think there could at least be one give club of an ECNL/DA level?
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Post by surgesoccer on May 14, 2019 12:50:52 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate but here is a map with GA soccer Clubs. www.georgiasoccer.org/club_directory/map/2 clubs that would make sense for UFA would be Roswell and GA Rush. An AFU UFA merger would really create a large footprint. |
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Post by cleansheet on May 14, 2019 13:11:13 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate but here is a map with GA soccer Clubs. www.georgiasoccer.org/club_directory/map/2 clubs that would make sense for UFA would be Roswell and GA Rush. An AFU UFA merger would really create a large footprint. Rush is a national club so I don’t see them merging. Roswell Santos has the purse strings of the city like Ambush. They better the community. Doubtful. AFU buying LSA makes the most sense geographically. Duluth to Suwanee to Gainesville. Solidify the i85/i985 corridor. LSA gives them numbers and fields. LSA gets ECNL and SCCLp |
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Post by dontworryaboutit on May 14, 2019 13:14:53 GMT -5
I agree that would make sense. But its nothing within the areas mentioned. It may even be more of a mentoring situation. Anyways, did the Smyrna families even know this was a possibility or likelihood? NOT AT ALL... Everybody was blindsided by this besides the 4 parents that make up the board. No telling what they got out of this... |
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Post by guest1996 on May 14, 2019 13:19:53 GMT -5
Curious, is this a full buy out by NTH or some alliance/partnership?
Announcement states Partnership, but reads as takeover...
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Post by cleansheet on May 14, 2019 13:26:54 GMT -5
Curious, is this a full buy out by NTH or some alliance/partnership? Announcement states Partnership, but reads as takeover... It’s a pure buyout. Go to Smyrna SC’s website and their language is more direct. They “merged” with NTH. |
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Post by guest1996 on May 14, 2019 13:33:33 GMT -5
Curious, is this a full buy out by NTH or some alliance/partnership? Announcement states Partnership, but reads as takeover... It’s a pure buyout. Go to Smyrna SC’s website and their language is more direct. They “merged” with NTH. So, SSC board goes away and Dave Smith and the NTH calls the shots now? |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 14, 2019 13:54:56 GMT -5
Opinion only: Coupled with TH going with DA & dropping ECNL, NASA move with Smyrna certainly strengthens the possibility of getting full DA on boys side in 20/21. Good point. If this happens does NASA boys drop ECNL? Don’t think so. ECNL doesn’t seem to have leverage enough to care if boys clubs also have boys DA. |
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