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Post by oraclesfriend on May 22, 2019 18:07:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't say GSA was the better team because they beat them twice. Kudos to them for figuring out how to play several players deep and if I need to quote "play boom ball" themselves because they NEEDED a result in both games to place 4th in the league. Premier had already clinched 1st in the league with 5 games left to play. They all played the same exact teams the same amount of times so I can't imagine a better barometer of "who is better" than the league standings. I do think the amount of upsets, ties, and surprising scores across the ECNL league shows it is a more competitive environment than DA. Not saying Tophat 05 DA isn't a great team and likely best in the state. Unfortunately we will never know. But if you are beating teams 16-0, that team shouldn't be in the "best" league. Not going to disagree about who is best in U14 ECNL. Both teams are good...maybe GSA has improved more throughout the season? I don't know. I will say, though, that Concorde U15 team won 10-0, 8-1, 8-0, 7-0, 7-1, 6-0 and 6-1 more than once. Not sure that makes ECNL the "best" league either at least in that age group. The problem is that both leagues have their pluses and minuses depending on your views and both have some amazing teams and some not so good teams. More leagues waters things down. That is the only thing I think we all can agree on... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 22, 2019 18:14:21 GMT -5
This post would be moot if there was a single competition that allowed any team of any level to enter and thur champion be crowned best club team in the state. Thankfully HS has this. High school DOES NOT have this. Recall that the state playoffs are based on school size. Pinecrest Academy is NOT playing against Lambert in state playoffs for example... there are 8(?) State champs per gender |
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Post by soccer4life on May 23, 2019 8:35:46 GMT -5
Be mindful that CF (Muller's team) dominated last year including TH DA prospective team. I believe that for 18-19 season that 4 to 6 kids are playing up on GQ's ECNL team that scored over 100 goals and dominated their ECNL season. Give Muller 3 or 4 new starters from the upper age group and I think it would be very competitive to be #1. Heck, they came in 2nd without these kids. Oh fridge - I'm in no way discounting Muller's team and I can't imagine how difficult it was to lose some of his best midfielders and GK in the state and he still managed to stay relevant in the standings this year. He can thank GQ for that mess!!! However, this is clearly a testament to his coaching and his ability to maintain consistency in the midst of the turnover. The facts are there and I'm not disputing that he did well, I was just saying that GSA has improved greatly (which is a good thing). We have a lot of talent between SSA/CF/TH/GSA and we have enough talent just in GA to compete nationally if we stopped playing the alphabet game. The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's? We shall see. Soccermonster, I'm lost in your statement of "The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's?" Why would the CF 06 platinum team break up and run to TH when they clearly destroyed TH in both games they played in ECNL and won the division? 1) If my daughter was on the CF06 team, NO WAY would I have here move to a team that is not better than the team she is already on, (that's like Aaron Rodgers wanting to play for the Browns b/c they are moving to the CFL) and 2) DA is not what its is for the girls as it is for the boys, competition for the girls is clearly in ECNL. DA vs ECNL: you get college looks and Natl team looks from both, so there is no difference and no reason for them to run to TH or UFA. I hope they do keep that CF06 platinum team together so we can see how good they can become! |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 23, 2019 9:53:47 GMT -5
This post would be moot if there was a single competition that allowed any team of any level to enter and thur champion be crowned best club team in the state. Thankfully HS has this. High school DOES NOT have this. Recall that the state playoffs are based on school size. Pinecrest Academy is NOT playing against Lambert in state playoffs for example... there are 8(?) State champs per gender Can't the schools petition for reassignment to a higher bracket?
I doubt the top 1A school teams are going to compete against the top 8A teams.
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Post by fridge on May 23, 2019 12:49:16 GMT -5
Be mindful that CF (Muller's team) dominated last year including TH DA prospective team. I believe that for 18-19 season that 4 to 6 kids are playing up on GQ's ECNL team that scored over 100 goals and dominated their ECNL season. Give Muller 3 or 4 new starters from the upper age group and I think it would be very competitive to be #1. Heck, they came in 2nd without these kids. Oh fridge - I'm in no way discounting Muller's team and I can't imagine how difficult it was to lose some of his best midfielders and GK in the state and he still managed to stay relevant in the standings this year. He can thank GQ for that mess!!! However, this is clearly a testament to his coaching and his ability to maintain consistency in the midst of the turnover. The facts are there and I'm not disputing that he did well, I was just saying that GSA has improved greatly (which is a good thing). We have a lot of talent between SSA/CF/TH/GSA and we have enough talent just in GA to compete nationally if we stopped playing the alphabet game. The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's? We shall see. I think your comment about what happens to Muller team plays into what I call the TH bias. (And, I am not picking on you, but using the comment to make a point.) TH is a GREAT club and has many National Team players. HOWEVER, CF can lay claim to the same. (And both have homegrown and outside the club NT players--though I think TH has more outside the club kids.) The two clubs are neck in neck in accolades and on field competition. The 01 CF team on the field had the edge including beating TH in final 4 nationals 2 years ago. The 02 TH / CF teams over the years have been equal as they usually split against one another--though the CF 02s did get to the final 4 in nationals 3 years ago. The CF younger age groups have actually lept ahead, I would argue like Muller's 05 team who lost more kids to play up than to TH. Or GQ 04 team that is killing every one. Or, the CF 06 team which is killing everyone. Of course, with CF dropping DA, CF did lose a couple girls at certain age groups who wanted to play DA. That was expected, but the losses were not as great as I think most suspected and CF teams haven't skipped a beat. Now TH is in the different position where it has DA but no ECNL, I suspect TH will lose some kids as a result (albeit at the bottom of their DA roster and many ECNL kids--e.g. lots of depth). I also think in the future the marketing edge will depend on what a kid wants. If they want high school, they will likely go to CF or ECNL club. If they believe that they have a better shot on being on National Team, they may lean toward TH--but are not foreclosed if they go to an ECNL club. The NT "marketing" angle is for a very very narrow group of girls. Let's face it, not many girls qualify for NT consideration while many more may be desirous of playing high school. And, if a girl is interested in BOTH, they end up at an ECNL club (and likely at CF given its NT track record). Bottom line, I think TH has been brilliant at recruiting at young ages, but I think it has to walk a very very narrow line. IF it stops getting kids into the NT pool, the marketing falls apart. Further, as UFA improves, the recruiting trail from outside the perimeter will cease. |
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Post by 04gparent on May 23, 2019 15:55:38 GMT -5
Oh fridge - I'm in no way discounting Muller's team and I can't imagine how difficult it was to lose some of his best midfielders and GK in the state and he still managed to stay relevant in the standings this year. He can thank GQ for that mess!!! However, this is clearly a testament to his coaching and his ability to maintain consistency in the midst of the turnover. The facts are there and I'm not disputing that he did well, I was just saying that GSA has improved greatly (which is a good thing). We have a lot of talent between SSA/CF/TH/GSA and we have enough talent just in GA to compete nationally if we stopped playing the alphabet game. The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's? We shall see. I think your comment about what happens to Muller team plays into what I call the TH bias. (And, I am not picking on you, but using the comment to make a point.) TH is a GREAT club and has many National Team players. HOWEVER, CF can lay claim to the same. (And both have homegrown and outside the club NT players--though I think TH has more outside the club kids.) The two clubs are neck in neck in accolades and on field competition. The 01 CF team on the field had the edge including beating TH in final 4 nationals 2 years ago. The 02 TH / CF teams over the years have been equal as they usually split against one another--though the CF 02s did get to the final 4 in nationals 3 years ago. The CF younger age groups have actually lept ahead, I would argue like Muller's 05 team who lost more kids to play up than to TH. Or GQ 04 team that is killing every one. Or, the CF 06 team which is killing everyone. Of course, with CF dropping DA, CF did lose a couple girls at certain age groups who wanted to play DA. That was expected, but the losses were not as great as I think most suspected and CF teams haven't skipped a beat. Now TH is in the different position where it has DA but no ECNL, I suspect TH will lose some kids as a result (albeit at the bottom of their DA roster and many ECNL kids--e.g. lots of depth). I also think in the future the marketing edge will depend on what a kid wants. If they want high school, they will likely go to CF or ECNL club. If they believe that they have a better shot on being on National Team, they may lean toward TH--but are not foreclosed if they go to an ECNL club. The NT "marketing" angle is for a very very narrow group of girls. Let's face it, not many girls qualify for NT consideration while many more may be desirous of playing high school. And, if a girl is interested in BOTH, they end up at an ECNL club (and likely at CF given its NT track record). Bottom line, I think TH has been brilliant at recruiting at young ages, but I think it has to walk a very very narrow line. IF it stops getting kids into the NT pool, the marketing falls apart. Further, as UFA improves, the recruiting trail from outside the perimeter will cease. The fun and sad part about this topic is this will not be decided on the field! As I have stated before I refuse to attempt to fight the war that US Soccer and US Club are fighting. Both clubs (TH and CF) are good and getting stronger with mergers, etc. Actually both clubs have girls that played at or was trained at one time by the other. For example, it is not stated much, but the 04 CF Plat team has I think 3 former TH girls. My point is both clubs will dominate the leagues they are in. All parents have some type of bias. The bias focused more towards the league (DA, ECNL) than the club. We all wish there were fewer leagues. Heck just 5 years ago there was only ECNL and USYS. Concorde dominated ECNL in Atlanta before TH got it. TH was dominating USYS in Atlanta before moving their top teams to ECNL. The girls soccer landscape is changing soooo fast. I wish the powers that be would reconcile so we can once again have a true champion. Until then we will have strong debates about the Mythical Best Team in Atlanta! |
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Post by EastATL on May 23, 2019 22:18:28 GMT -5
High school DOES NOT have this. Recall that the state playoffs are based on school size. Pinecrest Academy is NOT playing against Lambert in state playoffs for example... there are 8(?) State champs per gender Can't the schools petition for reassignment to a higher bracket?
I doubt the top 1A school teams are going to compete against the top 8A teams.
I think GHSAA is bring the brackets down again anyways? Won't 6A will be the largest in a couple years? Theoretically they can. However it would require ALL sports to move up a classification, not just because of soccer. |
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Post by justafan on May 24, 2019 11:04:50 GMT -5
There was a YNT ID camp this week in Atlanta for the 04/05 girls and these two clubs accounted for 21 of the 30 invites. NTH had the slight advantage with 12 invites. Bottom line is both NTH and CF are loaded with talent
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 24, 2019 13:46:27 GMT -5
Yeah, in the 2 elite leagues for their region, they will likely continually be the #1 team, most everyone else is playing for 2nd. In SCCL they will likely be in the top 3 at most age groups. GSA does well for their size but will generally be (like SSA and UFA) the 2nd/3rd team in the elite brackets.
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Post by soccermonster on May 26, 2019 23:28:35 GMT -5
There was a YNT ID camp this week in Atlanta for the 04/05 girls and these two clubs accounted for 21 of the 30 invites. NTH had the slight advantage with 12 invites. Bottom line is both NTH and CF are loaded with talent Out of curiosity, do you have a breakdown of which alphabet league each player is currently playing in? |
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Post by justafan on May 27, 2019 11:13:34 GMT -5
It was broken down by club affiliation and not league, but most appear to be DA/ECNL. Georgia Rush had an 04 kid in attendance and I don’t believe that they play in either league.
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Post by infoguy on May 29, 2019 15:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by soccermonster on May 29, 2019 19:05:15 GMT -5
Oh fridge - I'm in no way discounting Muller's team and I can't imagine how difficult it was to lose some of his best midfielders and GK in the state and he still managed to stay relevant in the standings this year. He can thank GQ for that mess!!! However, this is clearly a testament to his coaching and his ability to maintain consistency in the midst of the turnover. The facts are there and I'm not disputing that he did well, I was just saying that GSA has improved greatly (which is a good thing). We have a lot of talent between SSA/CF/TH/GSA and we have enough talent just in GA to compete nationally if we stopped playing the alphabet game. The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's? We shall see. Soccermonster, I'm lost in your statement of "The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's?" Why would the CF 06 platinum team break up and run to TH when they clearly destroyed TH in both games they played in ECNL and won the division? 1) If my daughter was on the CF06 team, NO WAY would I have here move to a team that is not better than the team she is already on, (that's like Aaron Rodgers wanting to play for the Browns b/c they are moving to the CFL) and 2) DA is not what its is for the girls as it is for the boys, competition for the girls is clearly in ECNL. DA vs ECNL: you get college looks and Natl team looks from both, so there is no difference and no reason for them to run to TH or UFA. I hope they do keep that CF06 platinum team together so we can see how good they can become! no need to feel lost regarding my question as it was poorly stated - I should have rephrased it as "will the 06 team suffer the same fate?" Not picking on that team because I have LOVED that team since they banded together to make that "dream team" but there will be girls who will want to leave and play DA. DA (10 months of training) vs ECNL (5 months of training) it will make a difference when they start HS so we may not necessarily see any real changes this season. At some point The National Team will go looking at DA first and ECNL 2nd but the likelihood of players making that team is slim anyway so I won't even begin to argue that point  I will agree with you that DA is currently not what it is for the girls as it is for the boys but its changing and it was felt during the showcases this year. There were so many scouts at one game during the DA showcase that you couldn't even keep count as they kept coming and going taking their notes on their ipads . This was not the case during the ECNL Showcases (talking U15 on up) - You had scouts at the ECNL showcases on their phones not even taking notes, like they were asked to show up to be seen. It was truly frustrating to see that firsthand. Tryout season is upon us and we will see what happens. I'm tied to both 06 teams so I will find out either way  will they stay or will they go! |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on May 29, 2019 20:04:14 GMT -5
The team to watch this season is going to come from (surprise) TH. The 08 team is going to be fire! They r getting the best of UFA NORCROSS AND Forsyth, plus pieces from GSA, SSA and CF.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 29, 2019 20:14:03 GMT -5
The team to watch this season is going to come from (surprise) TH. The 08 team is going to be fire! They r getting the best of UFA NORCROSS AND Forsyth, plus pieces from GSA, SSA and CF. ahhhh ... I remember when U12 was going to be "the best year of soccer ever." And then an age mandate And a club merger And a new league And puberty, injuries, over training, concussions, and crappy coaches ... And then another club merger And then another new league And then high school soccer Stay strong crazzzy4soccer ... the crazy train has barely started. |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on May 29, 2019 20:27:30 GMT -5
I have an older son who also plays so I get it. I still stand firm on my prediction of the 08 TH Girls team.
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Post by heretounderstand on May 29, 2019 21:23:35 GMT -5
I think your comment about what happens to Muller team plays into what I call the TH bias. (And, I am not picking on you, but using the comment to make a point.) TH is a GREAT club and has many National Team players. HOWEVER, CF can lay claim to the same. (And both have homegrown and outside the club NT players--though I think TH has more outside the club kids.) The two clubs are neck in neck in accolades and on field competition. The 01 CF team on the field had the edge including beating TH in final 4 nationals 2 years ago. The 02 TH / CF teams over the years have been equal as they usually split against one another--though the CF 02s did get to the final 4 in nationals 3 years ago. The CF younger age groups have actually lept ahead, I would argue like Muller's 05 team who lost more kids to play up than to TH. Or GQ 04 team that is killing every one. Or, the CF 06 team which is killing everyone. Of course, with CF dropping DA, CF did lose a couple girls at certain age groups who wanted to play DA. That was expected, but the losses were not as great as I think most suspected and CF teams haven't skipped a beat. Now TH is in the different position where it has DA but no ECNL, I suspect TH will lose some kids as a result (albeit at the bottom of their DA roster and many ECNL kids--e.g. lots of depth). I also think in the future the marketing edge will depend on what a kid wants. If they want high school, they will likely go to CF or ECNL club. If they believe that they have a better shot on being on National Team, they may lean toward TH--but are not foreclosed if they go to an ECNL club. The NT "marketing" angle is for a very very narrow group of girls. Let's face it, not many girls qualify for NT consideration while many more may be desirous of playing high school. And, if a girl is interested in BOTH, they end up at an ECNL club (and likely at CF given its NT track record). Bottom line, I think TH has been brilliant at recruiting at young ages, but I think it has to walk a very very narrow line. IF it stops getting kids into the NT pool, the marketing falls apart. Further, as UFA improves, the recruiting trail from outside the perimeter will cease. The fun and sad part about this topic is this will not be decided on the field! As I have stated before I refuse to attempt to fight the war that US Soccer and US Club are fighting. Both clubs (TH and CF) are good and getting stronger with mergers, etc. Actually both clubs have girls that played at or was trained at one time by the other. For example, it is not stated much, but the 04 CF Plat team has I think 3 former TH girls. My point is both clubs will dominate the leagues they are in. All parents have some type of bias. The bias focused more towards the league (DA, ECNL) than the club. We all wish there were fewer leagues. Heck just 5 years ago there was only ECNL and USYS. Concorde dominated ECNL in Atlanta before TH got it. TH was dominating USYS in Atlanta before moving their top teams to ECNL. The girls soccer landscape is changing soooo fast. I wish the powers that be would reconcile so we can once again have a true champion. Until then we will have strong debates about the Mythical Best Team in Atlanta! Could not agree more! Impossible to compare when clubs keep changing leagues and all the kids (parents) clubhop the way they do. Can someone start a poll to ask how many clubs everyone has been a member of? Maybe say U13 and above. I bet there are a shocking number of folks who have been at three clubs in four years. |
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Post by soccermonster on May 29, 2019 22:06:30 GMT -5
The team to watch this season is going to come from (surprise) TH. The 08 team is going to be fire! They r getting the best of UFA NORCROSS AND Forsyth, plus pieces from GSA, SSA and CF. ahhhh ... I remember when U12 was going to be "the best year of soccer ever." And then an age mandate And a club merger And a new league And puberty, injuries, over training, concussions, and crappy coaches ... And then another club merger And then another new league And then high school soccer Stay strong crazzzy4soccer ... the crazy train has barely started. Haha if that is not the truth. Well said! U8? Seriously? Tell me they were kidding? They havent even gone through puberty yet. |
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Post by hgth on May 29, 2019 22:33:15 GMT -5
Soccermonster, I'm lost in your statement of "The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's?" Why would the CF 06 platinum team break up and run to TH when they clearly destroyed TH in both games they played in ECNL and won the division? 1) If my daughter was on the CF06 team, NO WAY would I have here move to a team that is not better than the team she is already on, (that's like Aaron Rodgers wanting to play for the Browns b/c they are moving to the CFL) and 2) DA is not what its is for the girls as it is for the boys, competition for the girls is clearly in ECNL. DA vs ECNL: you get college looks and Natl team looks from both, so there is no difference and no reason for them to run to TH or UFA. I hope they do keep that CF06 platinum team together so we can see how good they can become! no need to feel lost regarding my question as it was poorly stated - I should have rephrased it as "will the 06 team suffer the same fate?" Not picking on that team because I have LOVED that team since they banded together to make that "dream team" but there will be girls who will want to leave and play DA. DA (10 months of training) vs ECNL (5 months of training) it will make a difference when they start HS so we may not necessarily see any real changes this season. At some point The National Team will go looking at DA first and ECNL 2nd but the likelihood of players making that team is slim anyway so I won't even begin to argue that point I will agree with you that DA is currently not what it is for the girls as it is for the boys but its changing and it was felt during the showcases this year. There were so many scouts at one game during the DA showcase that you couldn't even keep count as they kept coming and going taking their notes on their ipads . This was not the case during the ECNL Showcases (talking U15 on up) - You had scouts at the ECNL showcases on their phones not even taking notes, like they were asked to show up to be seen. It was truly frustrating to see that firsthand. Tryout season is upon us and we will see what happens. I'm tied to both 06 teams so I will find out either way will they stay or will they go! |
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Post by hgth on May 29, 2019 23:46:22 GMT -5
Hmm... very bold statements soccermonster! Let’s sit back and let these 13 year old girls show what the truth is. That’s why we love soccer so much, we can say whatever we want but the players will show what really is happening. Never doubt what a unified team is capable of doing. Some teams really do stick together .
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Post by soccermonster on May 30, 2019 0:42:18 GMT -5
Hmm... very bold statements soccermonster! Let’s sit back and let these 13 year old girls show what the truth is. That’s why we love soccer so much, we can say whatever we want but the players will show what really is happening. Never doubt what a unified team is capable of doing. Some teams really do stick together . I have no doubt that the 06s may prove me wrong cause they do have an amazing coach who loves them and is fighting to keep them all with the club... Kudos to her and the team !😊⚽️ |
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Post by mot on May 30, 2019 7:39:15 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on May 30, 2019 7:42:59 GMT -5
Aren’t the 3rd games being played today and it seems KSA older boys are holding their own right now.
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Post by papacoach on May 30, 2019 7:44:33 GMT -5
U18s for KSA seems to have two teams..I’m assuming you knew that based on the provided link to state cup
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Post by mot on May 30, 2019 7:46:11 GMT -5
I was at a few the u18 games yesterday and the day before all the teams all were very competitive. I could be wrong but as these kids get to 18, 19 years old seems to be less of disparity between teams and leagues. I saw a lot of good players playing their butts off but no one individual player really stood out from what I saw.
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Post by fridge on May 30, 2019 7:47:09 GMT -5
Soccermonster, I'm lost in your statement of "The 06 CF team will suffer the same fate this year the way muller's team suffered when they dropped DA. Question is, will they play for TH or UFA and will the 06 CF be as successful as Muller's?" Why would the CF 06 platinum team break up and run to TH when they clearly destroyed TH in both games they played in ECNL and won the division? 1) If my daughter was on the CF06 team, NO WAY would I have here move to a team that is not better than the team she is already on, (that's like Aaron Rodgers wanting to play for the Browns b/c they are moving to the CFL) and 2) DA is not what its is for the girls as it is for the boys, competition for the girls is clearly in ECNL. DA vs ECNL: you get college looks and Natl team looks from both, so there is no difference and no reason for them to run to TH or UFA. I hope they do keep that CF06 platinum team together so we can see how good they can become! no need to feel lost regarding my question as it was poorly stated - I should have rephrased it as "will the 06 team suffer the same fate?" Not picking on that team because I have LOVED that team since they banded together to make that "dream team" but there will be girls who will want to leave and play DA. DA (10 months of training) vs ECNL (5 months of training) it will make a difference when they start HS so we may not necessarily see any real changes this season. At some point The National Team will go looking at DA first and ECNL 2nd but the likelihood of players making that team is slim anyway so I won't even begin to argue that point I will agree with you that DA is currently not what it is for the girls as it is for the boys but its changing and it was felt during the showcases this year. There were so many scouts at one game during the DA showcase that you couldn't even keep count as they kept coming and going taking their notes on their ipads . This was not the case during the ECNL Showcases (talking U15 on up) - You had scouts at the ECNL showcases on their phones not even taking notes, like they were asked to show up to be seen. It was truly frustrating to see that firsthand. Tryout season is upon us and we will see what happens. I'm tied to both 06 teams so I will find out either way will they stay or will they go! I guess we have completely different experiences after seeing girl's DA and ECNL. First, DA trains 9 or perhaps 10 months/year. They take off July and a good part of January through part of February. ECNL through U17 trains about 8 mth/year. They take off July and late February through early May. (Most SE Conf ECNL teams go to Florida showcase in January and Texas Showcase in February so the teams are still training during this timeframe). And, during that 70 days out of club they are playing HS which we can leave for another time what diminishing returns the DA girls get from 2 months of training with their DA team v playing HS. Also, going from ECNL to DA back to ECNL, our teams have experienced no difference in the amount of coaches on the sidelines. I guess a coach may be on the phone once in a while, but I think the explicit claim coaches go to ECNL events disinterested and just to show a presence is actually ridiculous. (First time I've used this term on the Forum--sorry.) |
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Post by papacoach on May 30, 2019 7:49:36 GMT -5
Let’s see how day three results line up the teams for next rds
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 30, 2019 8:11:08 GMT -5
soccer4life no need to feel lost regarding my question as it was poorly stated - I should have rephrased it as "will the 06 team suffer the same fate?" Not picking on that team because I have LOVED that team since they banded together to make that "dream team" but there will be girls who will want to leave and play DA. DA (10 months of training) vs ECNL (5 months of training) it will make aI guess we have completely different experiences after seeing girl's DA and ECNL. First, DA trains 9 or perhaps 10 months/year. They take off July and a good part of January through part of February. ECNL through U17 trains about 8 mth/year. They take off July and late February through early May. (Most SE Conf ECNL teams go to Florida showcase in January and Texas Showcase in February so the teams are still training during this timeframe). And, during that 70 days out of club they are playing HS which we can leave for another time what diminishing returns the DA girls get from 2 months of training with their DA team v playing HS. Also, going from ECNL to DA back to ECNL, our teams have experienced no difference in the amount of coaches on the sidelines. I guess a coach may be on the phone once in a while, but I think the explicit claim coaches go to ECNL events disinterested and just to show a presence is actually ridiculous. (First time I've used this term on the Forum--sorry.) If I recall didn't ecnl come out with language that coaching would be more of a "team" effort and multiple coaches would be assigned to a team? For DA at the non-AU clubs on the boys side (correct me if I'm wrong)- its really just one main coach per team at training sessions. rarely are their multiple coaches coaching a team during a training session. --- This has to change for DA, should be a requirement to always have 2 staff members present and coaching, especially at the younger ages. |
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Post by infoguy on May 30, 2019 9:03:01 GMT -5
Let’s see how day three results line up the teams for next rds Just curious if the group of players on the KSA Pro Profile 01 and 00 state cup teams are the same group of players that people in this group claim to be the best single teams in their age groups in GA, regardless of league. For instance, did a handful of players from either team end up playing elsewhere - DA tournament? |
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Post by mot on May 30, 2019 9:07:10 GMT -5
Let’s see how day three results line up the teams for next rds Just curious if the group of players on the KSA Pro Profile 01 and 00 state cup teams are the same group of players that people in this group claim to be the best single teams in their age groups in GA, regardless of league. For instance, did a handful of players from either team end up playing elsewhere - DA tournament? |
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I will agree with you that DA is currently not what it is for the girls as it is for the boys but its changing and it was felt during the showcases this year. There were so many scouts at one game during the DA showcase that you couldn't even keep count as they kept coming and going taking their notes on their ipads . This was not the case during the ECNL Showcases (talking U15 on up) - You had scouts at the ECNL showcases on their phones not even taking notes, like they were asked to show up to be seen. It was truly frustrating to see that firsthand. Tryout season is upon us and we will see what happens. I'm tied to both 06 teams so I will find out either way 
will they stay or will they go! 
