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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 10:59:29 GMT -5
So given it's almost impossible to determine this on the field these days. Which team is the best in the state in each corresponding age group for boys and girls. I've included both the single u16 and u17 age groups. If someone else lists a team - either give that team a 2nd or 3rd vote - the 3rd vote gives the team the spot. Then when we get 3 disagreeing the election - facts will need to be presented to determine top squad. | Age | Boys | Girls | | u13 | 06 Atlanta United DA | 06 Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL | | u14 | | 05 NASA/Tophat DA | | u15 | | | | u16 | | | | u16/u17 | UFA u17 DA | NASA/Tophat DA u17 | | u17 | | | | u18/u19 | 01 KSA |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2019 11:15:21 GMT -5
U13G - Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 11:20:52 GMT -5
So do we do this like a vote, we need a 2nd and 3rd vote for a team to take the spot? if so if you 2nd or 3rd a vote please state that as well.
and then others will have to offer a counter and 2nd/3rd counter for then there to be constructive discussion on who is truly king
power to the people
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 14, 2019 11:59:34 GMT -5
U13G - Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL Second this. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 12:23:55 GMT -5
that is a 3rd for CF Platinum u13s
please try to highlight any 2nd or 3rd votes for squads.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 14, 2019 16:09:33 GMT -5
For U14G, its either CF Premier ECNL or NTH DA with a possible 3rd in Roswell Santos who went undefeated in the NL Piedmont 10-0-1. I don't think there is any way objectively to assess which is better though... www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/regevent/index.php?containerId=NzQzODA1Ng==&partialGames=1However, by plugging Tophat and U14 into the boxes it looks like they went around 20-1-1 on the year, with FOUR wins of over 10 points and FIVE wins by 5+. 9 of their games were close. By and large, U14 GDA looks like garbage with results like that, especially south Florida GDA. CF Premier went 13-3-3 so far with only 1 blowout win (6 goals) in ECNL. I'll give the edge to the NTH team. That said, there are too many GDA and ECNL clubs in Florida (12 vs 6 in Georgia). |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 14, 2019 17:30:03 GMT -5
I misread the instructions - you only want votes for the top team for each, not top 3. So I’ll condense:
Boys:
U12: NASA DA (I know they’re not in your matrix, but they deserve to be recognized)
U13: AU DA
U14: SSA DA
U15: CF DA
U16: CF ECNL
U17: UFA DA
U19: KSA PP 01
Girls:
U13: CF Platinum ECNL
U14: TH DA
U15: TH DA
U16: GSA ECNL
U17: TH DA
U19: TH DA
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2019 17:36:40 GMT -5
I misread the instructions - you only want votes for the top team for each, not top 3. So I’ll condense: Boys: U12: NASA DA (I know they’re not in your matrix, but they deserve to be recognized) U13: CF DA U14: SSA DA U15: CF DA U16: CF ECNL U17: UFA DA U19: AU DA Girls: U13: CF Platinum ECNL U14: TH DA U15: TH DA U16: GSA ECNL U17: TH DA U19: TH DA Yea if you want to go in depth and go top 3, I won’t stop ya - just make it clear if your agreeing with others. |
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Post by gaprospects on May 14, 2019 22:33:39 GMT -5
Its impossible to know how they would stack up to DA squads, but I feel like KSA 01 Boys should be mentioned in this conversation. They might be the most talented non-DA boys team to ever play in this state
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Post by soccerguru on May 15, 2019 8:35:31 GMT -5
The best u18 boys team in the state is KSA 01's, ask the DA teams how they faired against them last year.
KSA
AU DA
UFA DA
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Post by soccerguru on May 15, 2019 8:39:06 GMT -5
u13 boys
AU DA
CF DA
GSA ECNL
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 15, 2019 8:39:51 GMT -5
The best u18 boys team in the state is KSA 01's, ask the DA teams how they faired against them last year. KSA AU DA UFA DA Based on current rumors and facts from the past... are we sure they are truly 01s? lol (No offense, just some snark for the forum.) |
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Post by soccerguru on May 15, 2019 8:56:19 GMT -5
That's another discussion : )
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 15, 2019 9:11:15 GMT -5
do we have a third for KSAs 01s, I haven't seen them play in over a year, since Deedson left.
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Post by mistergrinch on May 15, 2019 9:32:44 GMT -5
For U14G, its either CF Premier ECNL or NTH DA with a possible 3rd in Roswell Santos who went undefeated in the NL Piedmont 10-0-1. I don't think there is any way objectively to assess which is better though... www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/regevent/index.php?containerId=NzQzODA1Ng==&partialGames=1However, by plugging Tophat and U14 into the boxes it looks like they went around 20-1-1 on the year, with FOUR wins of over 10 points and FIVE wins by 5+. 9 of their games were close. By and large, U14 GDA looks like garbage with results like that, especially south Florida GDA. CF Premier went 13-3-3 so far with only 1 blowout win (6 goals) in ECNL. I'll give the edge to the NTH team. That said, there are too many GDA and ECNL clubs in Florida (12 vs 6 in Georgia). NTH 05 DA was ranked #1 nationally for most of the year.. and you're not 100% sure that they're the best team locally?
Even when they fly around the country, very few teams can even give them a good game.
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Post by DOOM on May 15, 2019 10:29:02 GMT -5
I’ll give this a go. Only for age groups I’ve seen personally recently: U13G 1 - CF Platinum 2 - TH ECNL 3 - UFA combined 06s (best of DA play-ups and NPL. Not technically a team at the moment) U14G 1 - TH DA 2 - SSA (CF Premier ECNL) 3 - CF Platinum U16G 1 - TH combined 03s (same situation since gap year in DA) 2 - AFC Gold 3 - UFA combined 03s 4 - GSA ECNL (based on results only, stylistically and technically I put them much much lower) 5 - CF ECNL U17G 1 - TH DA 2 - CF Platinum 3 - Tormenta (don’t know if they count since merger with USA-Mt. Pleasant, but they are excellent) U12B 1 - NASA/TH DA 2 - Atlanta United DA (important to note that AU routinely plays their best players up, so this shouldn’t be taken to imply that they don’t have the best group player for player) U13B 1 - Atlanta United DA 2 - CF DA 3 - UFA DA or GSA ECNL (I haven’t seen these two recently, but big step down from the top 2 to either of these) U17 1 - UFA DA 2 - CF DA 3 - Atlanta United DA (important to note that AU routinely plays their best players up, so this shouldn’t be taken to imply that they don’t have the best group player for player) Re: U14G...I will give you TH DA...but GSA 05 ECNL just beat SSA twice in 2 weeks...and tied Concorde Platinum twice...with Platinum playing all their 04 Playups. So based on head to head GSA 05 ECNL would be the No. 2 U14 girls team. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 15, 2019 10:38:24 GMT -5
ok -- so updated the list above -- have 3 in so far -- have not heard 3rd votes for other age groups yet.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 15, 2019 11:35:15 GMT -5
Changing my U19 boys top team vote from AU DA to
KSA PP 01. You now have 3.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 15, 2019 11:36:22 GMT -5
And U14 boys SSA DA is a no-brainer.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 15, 2019 11:39:59 GMT -5
And U15 boys SSA DA is a no-brainer. do you mean u14, ie 05s? |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 15, 2019 11:44:54 GMT -5
Sorry, yes - 05s.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 15, 2019 11:47:03 GMT -5
u13 boys AU DA CF DA GSA ECNL Both CF & AU boys U13 teams are very good, but yeah I have to give the edge to AU upon reflection. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 15, 2019 13:15:56 GMT -5
AU boys u13s 2006s - just took the u13 spot
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Post by EastATL on May 15, 2019 15:24:40 GMT -5
U15G - Tophat DA or Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL
U16G - GSA ECNL
U16/17G - Tophat DA
U17G - Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL
U18/19G - Tophat DA or Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL
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Post by soccerguru on May 16, 2019 7:42:17 GMT -5
I don't know if Deedson has left yet, lots of rumors but some KSA players have told me that he's still here and will play through nationals, and was planning on returning to KSA again next year.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 16, 2019 7:44:46 GMT -5
I don't know if Deedson has left yet, lots of rumors but some KSA players have told me that he's still here and will play through nationals, and was planning on returning to KSA again next year. Wow he's only a junior in high school? and updated list - tophat u17 DA made the group
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Post by soccerpsych on May 16, 2019 11:37:44 GMT -5
I know I can’t be the only person on this forum to chuckle anytime KSA of any age group is mentioned with rarified greatness. A number of prior KSA 01 parents have knowingly laughed when I asked them about the age rumors. Each of them said it is one of the reasons they left. Apparently losing playing time to older players rubs people the wrong way. Regardless, there is no way the 01 team (u18) is better than any of the three u19 DA squads or GBs ECNL team that is leading the Southeast conference with a +32 differential.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 16, 2019 12:45:12 GMT -5
Oh, I’m right there with you, but for the oldest age group on this list, I couldn’t care less.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 16, 2019 13:47:30 GMT -5
There are more logical ways of figuring out the top teams outside of polling. This isn't global warming. Use deductive reasoning.
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Post by Keeper on May 16, 2019 22:43:28 GMT -5
There are more logical ways of figuring out the top teams outside of polling. This isn't global warming. Use deductive reasoning. Omg! Thank you for the Monty Python! |
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