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Post by bogan on Dec 3, 2020 13:17:33 GMT -5
I won't tell kids not to chase their dreams, but I'm not sold on the dream of being a professional USL soccer player. Agreed.
It's like a kid picking up a guitar and dreaming of being in a cover band playing corporate gigs.
Corporate gigs pay better than USL... |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 3, 2020 13:18:11 GMT -5
Original 5 homegrowns. Carleton - contract declined Goslin - MIA Bello - first team Patrick Okonkwo - Chattanooga USL League 1 Lagos Kunga - contract declined Goslin was a career youth national team player and can't even sniff a MLS roster. Just goes to show ya -- keep grinding! Goslin is down in Port St. Lucie, if you know, you know... |
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Post by guest on Dec 3, 2020 13:21:13 GMT -5
Original 5 homegrowns. Carleton - contract declined Goslin - MIA Bello - first team Patrick Okonkwo - Chattanooga USL League 1 Lagos Kunga - contract declined Goslin was a career youth national team player and can't even sniff a MLS roster. Just goes to show ya -- keep grinding! Goslin is down in Port St. Lucie, if you know, you know... What, he’s playing for the Mets now?! |
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Post by cantgetright on Dec 3, 2020 14:08:40 GMT -5
Jackson's a great kid. My son played with him for years. Wish him nothing but the best.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 3, 2020 15:38:22 GMT -5
I won't tell kids not to chase their dreams, but I'm not sold on the dream of being a professional USL soccer player. Let me be clear, I agree that outside of Bello, who let's be honest, benefited from the ongoing brushfire that was AUs season in this bizzaro season with Covid, so was given the chance to play and show what he could do, none of the HGs has truly panned out in the AU system. Now do you think it's the AU system, $$$, the lack of a robust USL foundational system, $$$, PRO-REL, $$$, MLS clubs being forced to have an Academy Program, $$$, or the HGs not panning out of taking advantage of the once in a lifetime opportunity? I am not judging or pointing fingers, just trying to see what the mitigating reason(s) are as to why we don't seem to hit pay dirt with these signings. Are we signing them too young, which begs the question, why the rush to sign them so quickly? Finally, why doesn't AU and the MLS use their affiliate clubs to test out some of these young talents. Doesn't AU have a stake in Aberdeen in the Premiership, why not send them over for stints & training, that may also lead to signings with European Clubs? |
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Post by bogan on Dec 3, 2020 16:15:04 GMT -5
I won't tell kids not to chase their dreams, but I'm not sold on the dream of being a professional USL soccer player. Let me be clear, I agree that outside of Bello, who let's be honest, benefited from the ongoing brushfire that was AUs season in this bizzaro season with Covid, so was given the chance to play and show what he could do, none of the HGs has truly panned out in the AU system. Now do you think it's the AU system, $$$, the lack of a robust USL foundational system, $$$, PRO-REL, $$$, MLS clubs being forced to have an Academy Program, $$$, or the HGs not panning out of taking advantage of the once in a lifetime opportunity? I am not judging or pointing fingers, just trying to see what the mitigating reason(s) are as to why we don't seem to hit pay dirt with these signings. Are we signing them too young, which begs the question, why the rush to sign them so quickly? Finally, why doesn't AU and the MLS use their affiliate clubs to test out some of these young talents. Doesn't AU have a stake in Aberdeen in the Premiership, why not send them over for stints & training, that may also lead to signings with European Clubs? The answer is as varied as the players themselves. However, American soccer is still in the Wild West phase where there is no clear path. There is also a ton of international competition and very few slots open. Yes, at the root of it all is money. I would tell a promising player to play abroad if going pro was their goal. If not, go to college. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 3, 2020 22:20:29 GMT -5
Agreed.
It's like a kid picking up a guitar and dreaming of being in a cover band playing corporate gigs.
Corporate gigs pay better than USL... Yes, but you'd get a better deal just selling your soul rather than having it sucked out bit by bit as you slog through Celine Dion's greatest hits to drunk salesmen in a convention hall. |
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Post by bogan on Dec 4, 2020 6:50:31 GMT -5
Corporate gigs pay better than USL... Yes, but you'd get a better deal just selling your soul rather than having it sucked out bit by bit as you slog through Celine Dion's greatest hits to drunk salesmen in a convention hall. Valid... |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Dec 4, 2020 8:33:31 GMT -5
I won't tell kids not to chase their dreams, but I'm not sold on the dream of being a professional USL soccer player. Let me be clear, I agree that outside of Bello, who let's be honest, benefited from the ongoing brushfire that was AUs season in this bizzaro season with Covid, so was given the chance to play and show what he could do, none of the HGs has truly panned out in the AU system. Now do you think it's the AU system, $$$, the lack of a robust USL foundational system, $$$, PRO-REL, $$$, MLS clubs being forced to have an Academy Program, $$$, or the HGs not panning out of taking advantage of the once in a lifetime opportunity? I am not judging or pointing fingers, just trying to see what the mitigating reason(s) are as to why we don't seem to hit pay dirt with these signings. Are we signing them too young, which begs the question, why the rush to sign them so quickly? Finally, why doesn't AU and the MLS use their affiliate clubs to test out some of these young talents. Doesn't AU have a stake in Aberdeen in the Premiership, why not send them over for stints & training, that may also lead to signings with European Clubs? Yea, and what makes this one strange is Conway isn't young like the others. And just like Conway, all these kids were and are great kids! Maybe conway becomes the next Jordan Morris, similar style of game in my opinion They have been extremely patient to sign him. Aren't homegrown deals capped, i think they are great for the club because they don't count against the teams salary cap, but not sure how good they are financially for the player. Carleton when signed was one of the best youth players in the country, a can't miss product, he should have warranted huge a $$$$ contract. . I think in general signing kids < 18 to deals is mistake, too much unknown and mentally the boys are no where near mature enough. For now I'm thinking america, not what is done throughout the world, because our soccer system is completely different than the rest of the world. its apples to oranges. America has the race to play kids up, oh your great, oh your in the national team pool, then you have to play up. Well little johhnie is a star he needs to play in his age group and up on sundays. Its almost like for a "club" to justify the quality of a kid, they have to play up. Now to be fair, AU and other MLS academies are in strange spot, 80% of their scheduled youth games are probably not that competitive, to get those top players competitive games, their "perceived" top players play up. Here is the exact problem - the perceived top players are the ones getting the focus, not all 18 players. AU has gone on record how they treat these top kids different etc. Treat player 1-18 the same, what i do for player 1 we should do for player 18. Looking back did Goslin, Carleton, Okonkwo, Kunga deserve more special attention then that group of kids that went off to college? Back to the latest homegrown, again they didn't sign him at 16, they were patient and let him play in a few season of USL etc. This should be common place. But looking at this roster, I struggle to see how he will get time, him and Wolf. Soccer isn't hoops or football, soccer where teams can sub free willy all game and play kids. Given the past season, the new coach is going to have high expectations to win and get results. If your gonna sign these kids then play them! I go back to youth -- I watched the NBA draft most recently, and was blown away at the quality of the kids and maturity level. Kids that had gone through so much and overcame challenges, kids that went to college either for a year or more, and grew up and knew and understood what it takes to become a professional. Kids that were very well spoken, and represented their families and universities with class. Bello was extremely close to slipping of the rails due to injuries -- and they have gone on record discussing how he and others were mishandled. I feel loaning these kids out to other USL sides is a huge mistake, they are no longer under your eye and your control, and developmental is no longer your responsibility -- your giving it to some random coach, club team in another state. So in summary -- don't sign young kids, and the game still has to expand and grow and attract more top youth players and athletes. I have a kid that plays multiple sports and soccer. The kids he plays hoops with are so freaking athletic. Track stars, baseball stars, football specialists, wrestlers. 99% of the soccer players I know are just that, soccer players. I'm telling you I can go watch a youth soccer game and tell that a goalie or key field players have never played another organized competitive youth sport in their life. Their lateral movements are slow, they can't judge a punt (like a fly ball), they can't anticipate the bounce of the ball like a rebound of the glass. They just seem to be missing something, that multi sport level of athleticism that makes soccer players better. Some of these hoops players hand eye coordination is off the charts, keepers would benefit greatly from playing hooops. All the speed and agility training in the world can't equate to playing a competitive sport when their is running clock and a team wins and the other team loses or the next serve wins the match. I'll add in a third, we've taken the word competition out of the sport. We grew up with the mentality that losing was not an option. Now a days, winning doesn't matter. Their is a fine balance yes, don't sacrifice what you do to win, but at some point just like in the Queens Gambit, its a team effort and the goal is to destroy the opposition. (I highly recommend the Queens Gambit on Netflix) |
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Post by bogan on Dec 4, 2020 8:59:02 GMT -5
Let me be clear, I agree that outside of Bello, who let's be honest, benefited from the ongoing brushfire that was AUs season in this bizzaro season with Covid, so was given the chance to play and show what he could do, none of the HGs has truly panned out in the AU system. Now do you think it's the AU system, $$$, the lack of a robust USL foundational system, $$$, PRO-REL, $$$, MLS clubs being forced to have an Academy Program, $$$, or the HGs not panning out of taking advantage of the once in a lifetime opportunity? I am not judging or pointing fingers, just trying to see what the mitigating reason(s) are as to why we don't seem to hit pay dirt with these signings. Are we signing them too young, which begs the question, why the rush to sign them so quickly? Finally, why doesn't AU and the MLS use their affiliate clubs to test out some of these young talents. Doesn't AU have a stake in Aberdeen in the Premiership, why not send them over for stints & training, that may also lead to signings with European Clubs? Yea, and what makes this one strange is Conway isn't young like the others. And just like Conway, all these kids were and are great kids! Maybe conway becomes the next Jordan Morris, similar style of game in my opinion. They have been extremely patient to sign him. Aren't homegrown deals capped, i think they are great for the club because they don't count against the teams salary cap, but not sure how good they are financially for the player. Carleton when signed was one of the best youth players in the country, a can't miss product, he should have warranted huge a $$$$ contract. . I think in general signing kids < 18 to deals is mistake, too much unknown and mentally the boys are no where near mature enough. For now I'm thinking america, not what is done throughout the world, because our soccer system is completely different than the rest of the world. its apples to oranges. America has the race to play kids up, oh your great, oh your in the national team pool, then you have to play up. Well little johhnie is a star he needs to play in his age group and up on sundays. Its almost like for a "club" to justify the quality of a kid, they have to play up. Now to be fair, AU and other MLS academies are in strange spot, 80% of their scheduled youth games are probably not that competitive, to get those top players competitive games, their "perceived" top players play up. Here is the exact problem - the perceived top players are the ones getting the focus, not all 18 players. AU has gone on record how they treat these top kids different etc. Treat player 1-18 the same, what i do for player 1 we should do for player 18. Looking back did Goslin, Carleton, Okonkwo, Kunga deserve more special attention then that group of kids that went off to college? Back to the latest homegrown, again they didn't sign him at 16, they were patient and let him play in a few season of USL etc. This should be common place. But looking at this roster, I struggle to see how he will get time, him and Wolf. Soccer isn't hoops or football, soccer where teams can sub free willy all game and play kids. Given the past season, the new coach is going to have high expectations to win and get results. If your gonna sign these kids then play them! I go back to youth -- I watched the NBA draft most recently, and was blown away at the quality of the kids and maturity level. Kids that had gone through so much and overcame challenges, kids that went to college either for a year or more, and grew up and knew and understood what it takes to become a professional. Kids that were very well spoken, and represented their families and universities with class. Bello was extremely close to slipping of the rails due to injuries -- and they have gone on record discussing how he and others were mishandled. I feel loaning these kids out to other USL sides is a huge mistake, they are no longer under your eye and your control, and developmental is no longer your responsibility -- your giving it to some random coach, club team in another state. So in summary -- don't sign young kids, and the game still has to expand and grow and attract more top youth players and athletes. I have a kid that plays multiple sports and soccer. The kids he plays hoops with are so freaking athletic. Track stars, baseball stars, football specialists, wrestlers. 99% of the soccer players I know are just that, soccer players. I'm telling you I can go watch a youth soccer game and tell that a goalie or key field players have never played another organized competitive youth sport in their life. Their lateral movements are slow, they can't judge a punt (like a fly ball), they can't anticipate the bounce of the ball like a rebound of the glass. They just seem to be missing something, that multi sport level of athleticism that makes soccer players better. Some of these hoops players hand eye coordination is off the charts, keepers would benefit greatly from playing hooops. All the speed and agility training in the world can't equate to playing a competitive sport when their is running clock and a team wins and the other team loses or the next serve wins the match. I'll add in a third, we've taken the word competition out of the sport. We grew up with the mentality that losing was not an option. Now a days, winning doesn't matter. Their is a fine balance yes, don't sacrifice what you do to win, but at some point just like in the Queens Gambit, its a team effort and the goal is to destroy the opposition. (I highly recommend the Queens Gambit on Netflix) |
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Post by bogan on Dec 4, 2020 9:02:00 GMT -5
Let me be clear, I agree that outside of Bello, who let's be honest, benefited from the ongoing brushfire that was AUs season in this bizzaro season with Covid, so was given the chance to play and show what he could do, none of the HGs has truly panned out in the AU system. Now do you think it's the AU system, $$$, the lack of a robust USL foundational system, $$$, PRO-REL, $$$, MLS clubs being forced to have an Academy Program, $$$, or the HGs not panning out of taking advantage of the once in a lifetime opportunity? I am not judging or pointing fingers, just trying to see what the mitigating reason(s) are as to why we don't seem to hit pay dirt with these signings. Are we signing them too young, which begs the question, why the rush to sign them so quickly? Finally, why doesn't AU and the MLS use their affiliate clubs to test out some of these young talents. Doesn't AU have a stake in Aberdeen in the Premiership, why not send them over for stints & training, that may also lead to signings with European Clubs? Yea, and what makes this one strange is Conway isn't young like the others. And just like Conway, all these kids were and are great kids! Maybe conway becomes the next Jordan Morris, similar style of game in my opinion They have been extremely patient to sign him. Aren't homegrown deals capped, i think they are great for the club because they don't count against the teams salary cap, but not sure how good they are financially for the player. Carleton when signed was one of the best youth players in the country, a can't miss product, he should have warranted huge a $$$$ contract. . I think in general signing kids < 18 to deals is mistake, too much unknown and mentally the boys are no where near mature enough. For now I'm thinking america, not what is done throughout the world, because our soccer system is completely different than the rest of the world. its apples to oranges. America has the race to play kids up, oh your great, oh your in the national team pool, then you have to play up. Well little johhnie is a star he needs to play in his age group and up on sundays. Its almost like for a "club" to justify the quality of a kid, they have to play up. Now to be fair, AU and other MLS academies are in strange spot, 80% of their scheduled youth games are probably not that competitive, to get those top players competitive games, their "perceived" top players play up. Here is the exact problem - the perceived top players are the ones getting the focus, not all 18 players. AU has gone on record how they treat these top kids different etc. Treat player 1-18 the same, what i do for player 1 we should do for player 18. Looking back did Goslin, Carleton, Okonkwo, Kunga deserve more special attention then that group of kids that went off to college? Back to the latest homegrown, again they didn't sign him at 16, they were patient and let him play in a few season of USL etc. This should be common place. But looking at this roster, I struggle to see how he will get time, him and Wolf. Soccer isn't hoops or football, soccer where teams can sub free willy all game and play kids. Given the past season, the new coach is going to have high expectations to win and get results. If your gonna sign these kids then play them! I go back to youth -- I watched the NBA draft most recently, and was blown away at the quality of the kids and maturity level. Kids that had gone through so much and overcame challenges, kids that went to college either for a year or more, and grew up and knew and understood what it takes to become a professional. Kids that were very well spoken, and represented their families and universities with class. Bello was extremely close to slipping of the rails due to injuries -- and they have gone on record discussing how he and others were mishandled. I feel loaning these kids out to other USL sides is a huge mistake, they are no longer under your eye and your control, and developmental is no longer your responsibility -- your giving it to some random coach, club team in another state. So in summary -- don't sign young kids, and the game still has to expand and grow and attract more top youth players and athletes. I have a kid that plays multiple sports and soccer. The kids he plays hoops with are so freaking athletic. Track stars, baseball stars, football specialists, wrestlers. 99% of the soccer players I know are just that, soccer players. I'm telling you I can go watch a youth soccer game and tell that a goalie or key field players have never played another organized competitive youth sport in their life. Their lateral movements are slow, they can't judge a punt (like a fly ball), they can't anticipate the bounce of the ball like a rebound of the glass. They just seem to be missing something, that multi sport level of athleticism that makes soccer players better. Some of these hoops players hand eye coordination is off the charts, keepers would benefit greatly from playing hooops. All the speed and agility training in the world can't equate to playing a competitive sport when their is running clock and a team wins and the other team loses or the next serve wins the match. I'll add in a third, we've taken the word competition out of the sport. We grew up with the mentality that losing was not an option. Now a days, winning doesn't matter. Their is a fine balance yes, don't sacrifice what you do to win, but at some point just like in the Queens Gambit, its a team effort and the goal is to destroy the opposition. (I highly recommend the Queens Gambit on Netflix) Tayler Twellman would agree on the need to play other sports...but will tell you he got blacklisted in the soccer community for doing so. |
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Post by rifle on Dec 4, 2020 18:08:19 GMT -5
Any news on what AC will do next?
Unrelated mostly: Roswell’s Cal Jennings just signed with Indy11 for next season. He tore up USL Championship after joining Memphis last season. Just like he tore up RPL, DA and NCAA before that - simply a goal scorer.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 4, 2020 19:48:23 GMT -5
(I highly recommend the Queens Gambit on Netflix) I would have to second that suggestion - Queen's Gambit made me want to take up Chess again. Trust me, it's a good watch for sure 👏👏👏 |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 8, 2021 9:38:04 GMT -5
Crazy -- looks like Carleton still hasn't been picked up by a mls club. I have to assume he's turned down USL offers....But could be wrong. www.transfermarkt.us/still has Chris Goslin without a club Patrick Okonkwo without a club Lagos Kunga - not sure status, says without club |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 8, 2021 12:28:17 GMT -5
Crazy -- looks like Carleton still hasn't been picked up by a mls club. I have to assume he's turned down USL offers....But could be wrong. www.transfermarkt.us/still has Chris Goslin without a club Patrick Okonkwo without a club Lagos Kunga - not sure status, says without club In regards to AC, I know of two families utilizing his skills to give their kids training sessions to work on their touches... |
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 8, 2021 13:07:30 GMT -5
How long until he is playing in the adult leagues at Silverbacks?
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Post by bogan on Mar 8, 2021 13:09:11 GMT -5
How long until he is playing in the adult leagues at Silverbacks? Me, looking at my watch...🤔 |
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Post by footyfan on Mar 8, 2021 14:14:07 GMT -5
Crazy -- looks like Carleton still hasn't been picked up by a mls club. I have to assume he's turned down USL offers....But could be wrong. www.transfermarkt.us/still has Chris Goslin without a club Patrick Okonkwo without a club Lagos Kunga - not sure status, says without club I can't see any USL club aside from Independence having any interest. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 8, 2021 14:23:55 GMT -5
No question, he had off the field issues, I also don't think he was ever really given a chance with the first team here.
did he produce with the 2s, probably not either, but the 2s were a nightmare. Bunch of individuals playing a team sport.
This is a damn shame in my opinion. Failure on many levels so far. Many are too blame, fortunately we are not.
Kid had talent, I still think there is a small glimmer of a chance.
There probably is more to this story, because it's crazy how far he's fallen off the radar.
Just goes to show ya, my broken record argument, of caring about your entire player pool. don't anoint the next great one at 15 years of age -- IT DOES NOT WORK!!!
Crazy part, is there were rumors early on that Goslin was going to be the better long term prospect. He dropped off even quicker.
Crazy again, life time youth national players, basically done.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 8, 2021 17:08:58 GMT -5
No question, he had off the field issues, I also don't think he was ever really given a chance with the first team here. did he produce with the 2s, probably not either, but the 2s were a nightmare. Bunch of individuals playing a team sport. This is a damn shame in my opinion. Failure on many levels so far. Many are too blame, fortunately we are not. Kid had talent, I still think there is a small glimmer of a chance. There probably is more to this story, because it's crazy how far he's fallen off the radar. Just goes to show ya, my broken record argument, of caring about your entire player pool. don't anoint the next great one at 15 years of age -- IT DOES NOT WORK!!! Crazy part, is there were rumors early on that Goslin was going to be the better long term prospect. He dropped off even quicker. Crazy again, life time youth national players, basically done. Does this add to the argument that kids ought to play college at least for one or two years? Why not have them play college and have some sort of development player status at clubs that allows them to train with the club that owns their rights? Maybe they train over spring break and summer with the MLS team. I don't know. Just brainstorming. It just seems like a shame that a 17 year old (or younger in some cases) kid was given a chance with a pro team and now he is persona non grata. He is still very young and many things can change in a year or two with maturity. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 8, 2021 17:37:10 GMT -5
could you imagine how quickly 99% of young basketball players would fail if they were thrown to the nba wolves at age 15 to 17. it takes a special level of maturity.
Very few could handle, and 2 were and are the greatest ever to play the game - Lebron and Kobe.
But throw them in the league at 15, and I bet they wouldn't have been the same player.
At least they graduated highschool - these young homegrown players are still in highschool, and i'm assuming do online/home schooling or get GED equivalents.
Did he have mentorship from any older players? if it was me, i'd have a staffer with the young players 24/7 -- Do they not realize how hard it is for a kid to play 99.9% of every minute of his youth career and be the man, to all of a sudden he's lucky to play in the 90th minute? At some point, your like, I don't give a sh*t how hard I train, or how much time I put in, I'm not going to see the pitch. Everyone knows the mental side of the game is just as important as the physical side. you have to be a complete player mentally and physically.
I just feel like they expected these young kids to act and be pros, when they hadn't even been in regular schooling. You need people there to help, listen to them, push them, help them navigate the challenge of being a professional athlete at 16.
I still don't understand the passport thing either -- still seems to me, that a team liaison would have all the players passport a day or 2 before travel, to ensure those things don't happen. But i'm not in charge of logistics or player development. I'd probably do a shizatty job at player development, but I'd take it freaking personally if all these young kids failed under my watch. It would mean I failed.... and I don't like failure!
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 8, 2021 17:53:15 GMT -5
As a parent, would you let your kid sign up a MLS homegrown contract before graduating high school without a contractual guarantee of being on the Senior Roster? Before you answer, here is some info from the Charlotte MLS 101 site on maximum homegrown salaries(https://charlottefootballclub.com/mls-101-allocation-money-salary-budgets-and-financial-rules/#:~:text=If%20they%20are%20not%20in,Salary%20(%2481%2C375%20in%202020):
There is no limit to the number of Homegrown Players a club may sign in any given year and their salaries only count against the Salary Budget if they are on the Senior Roster (roster slots 1-20). “This usually only happens when a Homegrown player proves himself and earns a new contract—think Jordan Morris,” says Charlotte MLS Director of Player Personnel Bobby Belair. If they are not in the Senior Roster Slots, Homegrown Players will be on the Supplemental Roster (slots 21-30). There, they may earn in total each year up to $125,000 above the Reserve Minimum Salary ($63,547 in 2020) or the Senior Minimum Salary ($81,375 in 2020).
So maximum amount of money is $185,000 to $205,000.
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Post by bogan on Mar 8, 2021 18:02:31 GMT -5
As a parent, would you let your kid sign up a MLS homegrown contract before graduating high school without a contractual guarantee of being on the Senior Roster? Before you answer, here is some info from the Charlotte MLS 101 site on maximum homegrown salaries(https://charlottefootballclub.com/mls-101-allocation-money-salary-budgets-and-financial-rules/#:~:text=If%20they%20are%20not%20in,Salary%20(%2481%2C375%20in%202020): There is no limit to the number of Homegrown Players a club may sign in any given year and their salaries only count against the Salary Budget if they are on the Senior Roster (roster slots 1-20). “This usually only happens when a Homegrown player proves himself and earns a new contract—think Jordan Morris,” says Charlotte MLS Director of Player Personnel Bobby Belair. If they are not in the Senior Roster Slots, Homegrown Players will be on the Supplemental Roster (slots 21-30). There, they may earn in total each year up to $125,000 above the Reserve Minimum Salary ($63,547 in 2020) or the Senior Minimum Salary ($81,375 in 2020). So maximum amount of money is $185,000 to $205,000. Yeah, uh, no. |
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 8, 2021 18:26:57 GMT -5
My requirements would be:
1. Life changing signing bonus likely $2.5 million or more
2. Guaranteed invite to camp and training with top team
3. Club pays for college of his choice if he does not make it
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Post by rifle on Mar 8, 2021 19:35:06 GMT -5
I’m shocked you think AC is turning down USL opportunities. I hope he continues to play but won’t be shocked if it’s over.
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Post by bogan on Mar 8, 2021 19:46:38 GMT -5
I’m shocked you think AC is turning down USL opportunities. I hope he continues to play but won’t be shocked if it’s over. Maybe he should hang out with Johnny “Win or lose we booze” manziel and play golf... I just hope his shenanigans don’t hurt his siblings. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 8, 2021 21:33:35 GMT -5
I’m shocked you think AC is turning down USL opportunities. I hope he continues to play but won’t be shocked if it’s over. I had tweeted something similar and the response I got from a few was they “thought” he was waiting and holding our for another mls offer vs USL. |
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Post by bogan on Mar 9, 2021 5:52:11 GMT -5
I’m shocked you think AC is turning down USL opportunities. I hope he continues to play but won’t be shocked if it’s over. I had tweeted something similar and the response I got from a few was they “thought” he was waiting and holding our for another mls offer vs USL. I wish him good luck.👍 |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 17, 2021 10:33:32 GMT -5
AJC chats with Efrain Morales, the youngest player on the Atlanta United First Team www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-united/atlanta-uniteds-youngest-player-remains-patient/CTZYPQEORRDQ5CIDETS6ZDFZL4/Atlanta United’s youngest player remains patient. Atlanta United's Efrain Morales. | March 16, 2021 By Doug Roberson, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Efrain Morales is only 17 years old but is taking a long, wise approach to his career as a professional soccer player. Because of an MCL injury and then a pulled quadricep, Morales hasn’t gotten to play a lot of soccer during the past year. He estimates he is two weeks away from being able to participate in Atlanta United’s training camp under new manager Gabriel Heinze. After signing his Homegrown contract in August 2020, Morales said he felt a lot of pressure to compete in his first training camp this year. The quad pull, sustained while playing for the team’s U17 squad against Charlotte two weeks ago, has changed his perspective. “It’s fueling me in a good way,” he said. Having missed most of the training camp, and with the team already having a pool of centerbacks and pursuing another player, Morales said he has simple goals this season: stay healthy and play consecutive games, whether for the first team, Atlanta United 2 or in the team’s Academy. He just wants to play. “I need to master each level before I can start playing professionally,” he said. Hearing such a grounded approach was surprising, but Morales’ soccer education is unique to most players. A member of Atlanta United’s inaugural U12 class for the 2016-17 season, Morales typically has played above his age group. In 2017-18, he split time with the U14s and U15s. In 2018-19, he played well enough to twice be called into the U15 U.S. national team camps. Only 14, he also made 10 appearances for Atlanta United’s U17 team that season. And then he hit hyperdrive last year. First, Morales was invited to train with Manchester United’s academy teams in January. Morales spent eight days with the English powers. He didn’t get to train with the first team, but did get to see first-teamers Luke Shaw and Paul Pogba. Efrain Morales, a native of Suwanee. Personally, Morales said he learned that he’s pretty good at adapting to new players and systems, and that he learned a lot about tactics. He also made relationships with players that he still talks to. Culturally, there is a big difference between the soccer environments in England and the U.S., but America is catching on. “Talent is here in the U.S, just a step behind in values and culture of soccer,” he said. Morales was then called to the U17 national team camp in February, typically considered a precursor of the team that would compete in the later-canceled 2021 U17 World Cup. The past year helped Morales realize that while his parents — his dad owns an IT consulting company and his mom is a part-time real-estate agent — at one time wanted him to earn a college scholarship, he felt it would be wrong not to take advantage of his soccer abilities and become a professional. His parents are supporting his decision. Morales is listed as a centerback by Atlanta United. He said he he thinks he has the greatest potential at that position, but also thinks he’s technical enough and aggressive enough to play as a defensive midfielder. He said he admires Miles Robinson’s abilities as a defender, Leandro Gonzalez Pirez’s passing and Michael Parkhurst’s intelligence. He said Parkhurst, who retired following the 2019 season, shares tips with him. Listening to Morales self-scout, he sounds potentially like a combination of those three. He’s tall (6-foot-3), aggressive and a good tackler. He’s learning more about defensive tactics. There are only two more things he needs to complete his long game: strength (he weighs only 170 pounds) and experience. “With time, and once I start thickening up a little bit, I can be a wall at the back,” he said. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 24, 2021 8:07:23 GMT -5
Sounds like Machop Chol is the homegrown to watch - can't tell me this could would have been better playing for the 2s the last 4 years.
He's in such a better spot having spent 4 years at wake.
Original 5 homegrowns.
Carleton - rumors by tweet that he is headed or flying somewhere....
Goslin - no team
Bello - first team, assuming this will be his last year (no idea his contract situation)
Patrick Okonkwo - no team
Lagos Kunga - no team
Next group
Conway - assuming 2s?
Morales - assuming 2s?
Wolf - assuming 2s?
Campbell - backup center back for first team?
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