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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 12, 2020 18:17:34 GMT -5
Treatment will be a cocktail of drugs, just like the middle days of the HIV crisis. (early days no one knew anything, middle days they threw everything at the symptoms to prolong life, now with HIV specific drugs) Steroids for breathing, hydroxychloroquine and zinc for blood issues, and a Z-pak (antibiotic) for random infections. If you are obese and diabetic, now would be a good time to make lifestyle changes to no longer be obese and diabetic. Not much medicine can help when you're body is already struggling to breathe and circulate blood before you get the virus... Forgive me if you stated this in another thread but are you a primary care doctor or do you have a specialty? Not if he's pushing hydroxychloroquine. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 12, 2020 20:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jul 12, 2020 21:01:45 GMT -5
One of the biggest problems currently is getting tests back within a reasonable period of time. Tomorrow is day 8 for me without a diagnosis...that means no treatment of any kind. I was told to take Tylenol. I’m sure paracetamol has its benefits but... So if I were going downhill at the time I saw the doctor, I’d probably be in the hospital by now. So, I either didn’t have it or I was one of the luckier ones. A lot of these medications appear to work if you start them early-not after 10 days plus. |
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Post by atlutd17 on Jul 12, 2020 21:16:23 GMT -5
One of the biggest problems currently is getting tests back within a reasonable period of time. Tomorrow is day 8 for me without a diagnosis...that means no treatment of any kind. I was told to take Tylenol. I’m sure paracetamol has its benefits but... So if I were going downhill at the time I saw the doctor, I’d probably be in the hospital by now. So, I either didn’t have it or I was one of the luckier ones. A lot of these medications appear to work if you start them early-not after 10 days plus. I agree, and hope it all turns out good for you. It should not be taking more than 24 hours to get the results, let alone 8 days. Totally ridiculous. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 12, 2020 21:20:33 GMT -5
Treatment will be a cocktail of drugs, just like the middle days of the HIV crisis. (early days no one knew anything, middle days they threw everything at the symptoms to prolong life, now with HIV specific drugs) Steroids for breathing, hydroxychloroquine and zinc for blood issues, and a Z-pak (antibiotic) for random infections. If you are obese and diabetic, now would be a good time to make lifestyle changes to no longer be obese and diabetic. Not much medicine can help when you're body is already struggling to breathe and circulate blood before you get the virus... Forgive me if you stated this in another thread but are you a primary care doctor or do you have a specialty? Professional with multiple degrees (one in engineering) who understands both the science and politics of public health. Nothing I've posted above is at all controversial, unless you have been diagnosed with severe TDS. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 12, 2020 21:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 12, 2020 21:50:40 GMT -5
Here is the problem with medical research, there are often many studies that conflict. A well-designed study is prospective, double-blinded (meaning neither the patient nor the researcher know who is getting the treatment versus a placebo) and randomized and also has enough people in both arms of the study that you can control for many variables. This type of study is very rare. We do not know enough about COVID to even know if we are controlling for the right variables. For example, did they control for blood type? Because we now know that blood type makes a difference. There are several studies that say hydroxychloroquine is useless and causes enough harm (cardiac complications) to have stopped some of those studies before they were completed. There are at least two that I am aware of that show a benefit to the medication. At this point no one is certain what works except prone positioning. |
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Post by footyfan on Jul 13, 2020 5:15:22 GMT -5
Forgive me if you stated this in another thread but are you a primary care doctor or do you have a specialty? Professional with multiple degrees (one in engineering) who understands both the science and politics of public health. Nothing I've posted above is at all controversial, unless you have been diagnosed with severe TDS. You had me at "No" And by all means, non-doctor-who-prescribes-pharma-cocktails-on-a-soccer-message-board, fell free to call me the one deranged by President Trump. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 13, 2020 6:47:12 GMT -5
Professional with multiple degrees (one in engineering) who understands both the science and politics of public health. Nothing I've posted above is at all controversial, unless you have been diagnosed with severe TDS. You had me at "No" And by all means, non-doctor-who-prescribes-pharma-cocktails-on-a-soccer-message-board, fell free to call me the one deranged by President Trump. Me: provides concise summary of publicly available medical information with historical context to a previous epidemic You: you're not a doctor so I'm not listening to you Also Me: looks like it's raining outside, probably should take an umbrella You: you're not a meteorologist so I'm not listening to you |
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Post by papacoach on Jul 13, 2020 7:33:23 GMT -5
Wow.. you are right, being prepared and able to use our smartphones to access available information to adjust seem like common sense.
You mention the weather and to bring a umbrella just in case.. gotcha 😉, there’s one already in car next to the med kit, flashlight, extra towel, blanket, hand sanitizer 🧼and wet wipes.. - kids are messy in the car 😏
Being prepared and able to adjust to shifting environments isn’t rocket science even for the politically deranged believing any DC politics at the local pitch in Ga is functional and helpful 🤭🤔😯
C19 information is easily accessible via the internet and at times, shifting as it should. Assess your own risk factors and adjust to what is comfortable to your surrounding bubble/safe space..
It’s time to reopen and continue to move forward on our new normal of Optional masks 😷, temp checks and hand sanitizer stations everywhere 🤣.. we are ready for schools to reopen, sports, and less politics in a soccer forum..
By chance, what’s the actual risk level of catching and recovery from C19 these days based on age and NO underlying causes? - I saw it’s roughly high 98% overall but who knows if the church sign was updated as of this morning 🤭🤔🧐
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 13, 2020 8:43:41 GMT -5
You had me at "No" And by all means, non-doctor-who-prescribes-pharma-cocktails-on-a-soccer-message-board, fell free to call me the one deranged by President Trump. Me: provides concise summary of publicly available medical information with historical context to a previous epidemic also You: properly corrected on said medical information by an actual doctor |
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Post by footyfan on Jul 13, 2020 11:32:29 GMT -5
Me: provides concise summary of publicly available medical information with historical context to a previous epidemic also You: properly corrected on said medical information by an actual doctor " mistergrinch", please dont interrupt doctorloafer. He has already figured out what the actual doctors have just begun to understand and none have consensus on. Because he was an engineering major. And is now.... A PROFESSIONAL. |
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Post by bogan on Jul 13, 2020 11:57:52 GMT -5
also You: properly corrected on said medical information by an actual doctor " mistergrinch", please dont interrupt doctorloafer. He has already figured out what the actual doctors have just begun to understand and none have consensus on. Because he was an engineering major. And is now.... A PROFESSIONAL. I slept at a holiday inn last night... |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 13, 2020 12:25:55 GMT -5
" mistergrinch ", please dont interrupt doctorloafer. He has already figured out what the actual doctors have just begun to understand and none have consensus on. Because he was an engineering major. And is now.... A PROFESSIONAL. I slept at a holiday inn last night... Dude, if you're going to roast me, at least get it right. It's Holiday Inn Express... |
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Post by bogan on Jul 13, 2020 12:38:13 GMT -5
I slept at a holiday inn last night... Dude, if you're going to roast me, at least get it right. It's Holiday Inn Express... You are right. Guess I’m not a professional... |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Jul 14, 2020 18:39:08 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Jul 14, 2020 18:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Jul 14, 2020 19:39:49 GMT -5
Footy. You need some positivity, a couple of months ago we thought we wouldn't be this close. |
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Post by footyfan on Jul 14, 2020 20:34:08 GMT -5
Footy. You need some positivity, a couple of months ago we thought we wouldn't be this close. I was always optimistic that we would have a vaccine come spring and am grateful they are still on track for it. Thanks for posting. Gives me hope. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jul 15, 2020 8:48:56 GMT -5
Don’t fall for the vaccine hype. First of all, vaccines through the FDA have traditionally taken 10 years to come to market, now everyone is hoping for 1 in less than a year? How many shortcuts will have been taken to push to market. Even if we have a vaccine, at best it would work like the flu vaccine which is not a cure. This is not like finding the cure for polio, there is no vaccine that will completely eradicate covid-19.
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Post by honeybadger on Jul 15, 2020 10:17:22 GMT -5
Fact:
1. the 5 states that opened up early do have higher covid rates today, but the mortality rates for the 5 states that have remained most closed ( NY, NJ, California and two others I can’t remember ) have higher death rates.
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 15, 2020 10:22:28 GMT -5
Hey, unless you're a doctor or vaccine research scientist, you shouldn't be posting medical information on this forum. Just stick to the facts presented by the government and do as you're told.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 15, 2020 11:18:03 GMT -5
There's no vaccine at all, so hard to determine what extend of coverage it will and wont provide. Vaccines have been developed and in production for distribution within 18 months. Not saying it'll happen with C19, but I'm certainly not taking anyone's medical advice on this forum. How do you use a 100 yr old benchmark to compare scientific advancements and place them in the same 10 year time frame today? Not logical. I still don't understand how people come on here throwing things around as factual, or putting it in all caps, like that's going to make a difference in the validity of their statement. (I'm referring to our friend that transforms himself into a grossly inaccurate statistician, then answers himself in the 3rd person from another account). Some folks clearly need to get outside sooner than others.
Anyway, back to how this thread pertains to youth soccer and our kids. I do agree no-one should be looking for a vaccine as a silver bullet. Once available for distribution, to any magnitude (this year or next year), it will be most certainly prioritized. Beginning with Senior Living Facilities and Front-line workers, etc. I don't think pre-teen and teen's will be at the front of that list.
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Post by bogan on Jul 15, 2020 11:41:00 GMT -5
“...Trust me on the sunscreen.”😎
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Post by bogan on Jul 15, 2020 11:51:52 GMT -5
“In a press conference this morning, Gov. Kay Ivey (Alabama) implemented a mandatory mask order beginning tomorrow, July 16...”
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 15, 2020 13:16:28 GMT -5
“In a press conference this morning, Gov. Kay Ivey (Alabama) implemented a mandatory mask order beginning tomorrow, July 16...” That face when Alabama is being smarter than other states...
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 15, 2020 15:08:38 GMT -5
There's no vaccine at all, so hard to determine what extend of coverage it will and wont provide. Vaccines have been developed and in production for distribution within 18 months. Not saying it'll happen with C19, but I'm certainly not taking anyone's medical advice on this forum. How do you use a 100 yr old benchmark to compare scientific advancements and place them in the same 10 year time frame today? Not logical. I still don't understand how people come on here throwing things around as factual, or putting it in all caps, like that's going to make a difference in the validity of their statement. (I'm referring to our friend that transforms himself into a grossly inaccurate statistician, then answers himself in the 3rd person from another account). Some folks clearly need to get outside sooner than others. Anyway, back to how this thread pertains to youth soccer and our kids. I do agree no-one should be looking for a vaccine as a silver bullet. Once available for distribution, to any magnitude (this year or next year), it will be most certainly prioritized. Beginning with Senior Living Facilities and Front-line workers, etc. I don't think pre-teen and teen's will be at the front of that list. Nor should kids and teens be at the front of the list. Kids have a 99.99% chance of surviving even if they get the virus. There is no point in giving the vaccine to kids and teens at all or most young people under 24 or so. That also doesn't mean that we need to refrain from allowing kids and teens to play sports and go to school. The science and stats just don't support keeping all that closed for anyone much less kids and preteens. Doesn't everyone say listen to the science? Well go look at the stat breakdown by age. Look at the science. |
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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Jul 15, 2020 15:57:00 GMT -5
So - how many parents can attend a soccer game if we have to maintain the 6" rule?
OR
Are we all going to wear masks
OR
Are we going to wear masks if mandated
OR
Do we kick all of us parents out, let the kids play sans masks (have fun)
and not worry about the referees because... I'm not sure there will be many
Oh, there are just way too many scenarios to talk about.
I have seen the ugly side of COVID
I do believe it is real
I have also seen someone dying from a vaccine and someone living because of one.
This isn't a laughing matter
People need to live their lives
people need money to pay bills
healthcare is needed for those who get sick....
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 15, 2020 16:22:44 GMT -5
So - how many parents can attend a soccer game if we have to maintain the 6" rule? OR Are we all going to wear masks OR Are we going to wear masks if mandated OR Do we kick all of us parents out, let the kids play sans masks (have fun) and not worry about the referees because... I'm not sure there will be many Oh, there are just way too many scenarios to talk about. I have seen the ugly side of COVID I do believe it is real I have also seen someone dying from a vaccine and someone living because of one. This isn't a laughing matter People need to live their lives people need money to pay bills healthcare is needed for those who get sick.... My kid will be refereeing, and I got my license in March and will be getting my first games in myself this Fall. Neither of us are afraid of playing or refereeing. |
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Post by honeybadger on Jul 15, 2020 16:41:10 GMT -5
I'm telling you the numbers are being cooked. Yes, CV19 is real. But the numbers are not. This is from a right wing site, but the actual News Station if Florida is the one reporting this. 334 testing centers claimed 100% of tests in one day were positive? That's impossibble. So the News Affiliate reached out to some of these places. One example: the place reported 98% positive tests, but told the news station it was 9.4%. Huge difference. You can choose not to like the messenger from the right wing site, but was the news station lying? You'd have to believe that 100% of patients in 334 testing centers tested positive in order to believe the news station is lying. use common sense here. www.theblaze.com/news/florida-department-of-health-exposed-for-massively-over-reporting-positive-covid-cases |
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