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Post by rifle on Jul 15, 2020 19:01:46 GMT -5
My kid will be refereeing, and I got my license in March and will be getting my first games in myself this Fall. Neither of us are afraid of playing or refereeing. congrats and thank you. We need more referees! |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 16, 2020 9:37:21 GMT -5
I'm telling you the numbers are being cooked. Yes, CV19 is real. But the numbers are not. This is from a right wing site, but the actual News Station if Florida is the one reporting this. 334 testing centers claimed 100% of tests in one day were positive? That's impossibble. So the News Affiliate reached out to some of these places. One example: the place reported 98% positive tests, but told the news station it was 9.4%. Huge difference. You can choose not to like the messenger from the right wing site, but was the news station lying? You'd have to believe that 100% of patients in 334 testing centers tested positive in order to believe the news station is lying. use common sense here. www.theblaze.com/news/florida-department-of-health-exposed-for-massively-over-reporting-positive-covid-cases
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 16, 2020 9:40:53 GMT -5
By EOD, most if not all metro county school districts will be announcing 100% virtual for the Fall.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jul 16, 2020 9:47:39 GMT -5
By EOD, most if not all metro county school districts will be announcing 100% virtual for the Fall. Wow, putting yourself out here with that prediction, end of the day are you literally meaning today? |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Jul 16, 2020 9:51:54 GMT -5
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 16, 2020 9:58:13 GMT -5
By EOD, most if not all metro county school districts will be announcing 100% virtual for the Fall. Wow, putting yourself out here with that prediction, end of the day are you literally meaning today? Yup. There might be an outlier county or two holding out on announcing due to lack of preparation. But the pace setter counties and districts are a done deal. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jul 16, 2020 9:58:48 GMT -5
Fulton has a meeting starting at 11am, guess we'll see if they follow suit
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jul 16, 2020 10:06:43 GMT -5
They just announced fulton virtual at the start
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 16, 2020 10:14:44 GMT -5
By EOD, most if not all metro county school districts will be announcing 100% virtual for the Fall. aka "No school"
I don't know about everyone else, but the spring digital learning phase was essentially a wasted quarter. I know they tried in a short timeframe to make something work, but without a defined syllabus, assignments, etc (like a college course), its a waste of time.
Also, there is no reason to do this. This is NOT evidence-based. |
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Post by USoCcer on Jul 16, 2020 10:34:49 GMT -5
I agree. This is a terrible decision. From our experience last semester, my child had about one and a half to two hours of work a day after the March 13 shutdown. And from talking to other families, we were some of the better ones. Other kids got packets of hand outs etc.
Then they announced that your grades could not be lower at the end of the year versus what they were on March 13th. So in theory, my child could have slept all day, or taken up a hobby and would have ended the year with the same "all A's" she had on March 13th. That is unacceptable.
I can only imagine the disaster that will happen with this. Parent complaints will be off the charts..."My kid did the work but had a problem submitting it" Or "its not fair that....."
Ugh. This is a bad deal all the way around
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jul 16, 2020 10:36:59 GMT -5
Fulton superintendent stated that in opening up to training for sports in June to groups of 50 they had seen cases of covid in their students and teachers, also cited cases rising in the county, etc.
For the fall virtual is supposed to be more like classroom learning with periods, teams/zoom calls, attendance, etc. They've had long enough to plan for this, hopefully it's structured like a school day otherwise it will be just as useless as the spring while my kids try to sleep until 2pm like they do in the summer...FWIW I wanted my kids to go back to classroom learning even if it meant wearing a mask at school.
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Post by USoCcer on Jul 16, 2020 10:40:39 GMT -5
I am going out on a limb here....There will be no in person school in Fulton County at all in 2020 - 2021. The precedence has been set. I can come up with a "valid" reason for anything. Hope there is "club football" because a lot of kids are going to miss out on scholarship opportunities by not having HS Football in the fall.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 16, 2020 10:48:56 GMT -5
People who can should look into private schools. I imagine their enrollments will be 100-110% full come August.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jul 16, 2020 11:00:53 GMT -5
Wow, putting yourself out here with that prediction, end of the day are you literally meaning today? Yup. There might be an outlier county or two holding out on announcing due to lack of preparation. But the pace setter counties and districts are a done deal. Wow! So big question now is I’m waiting to hear from Forsyth and hall county who are large but are more of a republican county. Do they cancel or do they stay with kemp and remain open. Most of the counties that have closed so far are democratic counties |
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 16, 2020 11:40:24 GMT -5
LOL! That's funny, but I get it. Not a teacher but we're active in our younger daughters school PTA. As parents I think we discount the impact of teachers have on these types of decisions... like objecting to being in a closed environment during a viral pandemic. Ready to coach a soccer team outdoors? Sure sign me up!
But your kid going to school isn't a unilateral decision you or I alone get to make as parents. I doubt a teacher in Forsyth or Hall County is excited to stand in the center of a classroom of 20 kids for 6hrs a day as much as any other county. Doubt their political views come into play either. That goes for Private schools as well, which my oldest kid attends. Advice is I wouldn't be running to fill out that application too quickly either.
Breaking News, "evidence" shows teachers aren't stupid!
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Post by lsagoalie on Jul 16, 2020 12:04:27 GMT -5
So, I guess you are saying that teachers are not essential workers since they seem to get to choose to not go back to work? I’m sure there are doctors and nurses not to mention all the workers in others field like the local grocery stores that would prefer to stay home and keep themself safe but understand that life need to go on.
Also, interesting the daycares have remained open and I haven’t heard of any outbreaks at the daycares?
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 16, 2020 12:13:37 GMT -5
If all of the students are virtual, the teachers should be able to go to the buildings, sit in their classrooms alone and conduct somewhat normal teaching to students that are attending the class remotely.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 16, 2020 12:21:40 GMT -5
So, I guess you are saying that teachers are not essential workers since they seem to get to choose to not go back to work? I’m sure there are doctors and nurses not to mention all the workers in others field like the local grocery stores that would prefer to stay home and keep themself safe but understand that life need to go on. Also, interesting the daycares have remained open and I haven’t heard of any outbreaks at the daycares? No what I said was, "your kid going to school isn't a unilateral decision you or I alone get to make as parents". For the record again, as of right now my kids are still planning to attend school in person. They also practice and train weekly. Secondly, who ever said teachers weren't willing to go back to work? |
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Post by soccermomma21 on Jul 16, 2020 12:23:10 GMT -5
Please trust me when I say, teachers want to go back to work. We just don’t want to stand in a classroom with 20+ (my district announced at the reopening meeting our class sizes will be increasing due to budget cuts) students who refuse to wear masks because its “optional” and put ourselves and our families at risk. Also know, that we have not been “off of work” since March 13th. I’ve been teaching for 20 years and have never worked harder than I did from March 13th until May 27th. I did everything I could to make my students (middle schoolers) feel safe and like we were still in school. It was HARD! I didn’t go to school to teach remotely. Will it be better this time around, absolutely! We had more than 3 days to get it together. Have faith in the fact that teachers know how this is going to work (not work) and let us do what is best for the students and us.
And wear a damn mask so we can get back to more normal.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 16, 2020 12:28:03 GMT -5
If all of the students are virtual, the teachers should be able to go to the buildings, sit in their classrooms alone and conduct somewhat normal teaching to students that are attending the class remotely. Excellent idea! |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 16, 2020 12:36:11 GMT -5
Please trust me when I say, teachers want to go back to work. We just don’t want to stand in a classroom with 20+ (my district announced at the reopening meeting our class sizes will be increasing due to budget cuts) students who refuse to wear masks because its “optional” and put ourselves and our families at risk. Also know, that we have not been “off of work” since March 13th. I’ve been teaching for 20 years and have never worked harder than I did from March 13th until May 27th. I did everything I could to make my students (middle schoolers) feel safe and like we were still in school. It was HARD! I didn’t go to school to teach remotely. Will it be better this time around, absolutely! We had more than 3 days to get it together. Have faith in the fact that teachers know how this is going to work (not work) and let us do what is best for the students and us. And wear a damn mask so we can get back to more normal. Spot on.
You want things to get back to normal? Do the bare minimum to get us there.
Our school has a team of doctors advising them. what I've heard so far is 'we're all for opening back up.. mandatory masks. Kids with masks and teachers with masks makes it pretty low risk'
A doctor I know commented 'if masks didn't work, we'd all have TB'
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 16, 2020 13:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 16, 2020 14:01:03 GMT -5
I believe there was a German study with similar results. Lets hope they're right. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 16, 2020 14:22:38 GMT -5
I did the numbers again today for Georgia. in the <1 - 17 age group only 1 kid had died and they had pre-existing conditions. There have been 9089 cases in that age range.
Let's do some math:
1/9089 x 100 = 0.011% mortality rate for that age range which means that if a kid actually gets the virus they have a 99.989% chance of recovery.
I can do similar math for healthy individuals as well and their recovery rate is like 99.9% as well. Some medical experts predict the mortality rate to be 1% while the CDC has also stated it could be as low as 0.26% when it is all said and done.
This is just straight up panic and fear driven closures. There is no need to not have in-person school and there is no reason to close it every time someone positive is found to have gone to the school. The fearful people have their alternatives already (home school or online) so why are those people that have their choice keeping the majority of parents from making their choice. In my county 71% of parents surveyed intend on enrolling their kid in in-person school. I think that speaks volumes. They have looked at the risk and see they have an online option yet chose in person anyway. Its because the stats don't lie.
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Post by ga3v3 on Jul 16, 2020 14:47:35 GMT -5
I did the numbers again today for Georgia. in the <1 - 17 age group only 1 kid had died and they had pre-existing conditions. There have been 9089 cases in that age range. Let's do some math: 1/9089 x 100 = 0.011% mortality rate for that age range which means that if a kid actually gets the virus they have a 99.989% chance of recovery. I can do similar math for healthy individuals as well and their recovery rate is like 99.9% as well. Some medical experts predict the mortality rate to be 1% while the CDC has also stated it could be as low as 0.26% when it is all said and done. This is just straight up panic and fear driven closures. There is no need to not have in-person school and there is no reason to close it every time someone positive is found to have gone to the school. The fearful people have their alternatives already (home school or online) so why are those people that have their choice keeping the majority of parents from making their choice. In my county 71% of parents surveyed intend on enrolling their kid in in-person school. I think that speaks volumes. They have looked at the risk and see they have an online option yet chose in person anyway. Its because the stats don't lie. From what I have heard the pressure has been coming from the teachers. Our country polled parents and students with similar results. The one group they didn’t poll- teachers? |
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Post by uga326 on Jul 16, 2020 14:50:41 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jul 16, 2020 14:53:32 GMT -5
“This to shall pass...maybe like a kidney stone but it will pass. “
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Post by bogan on Jul 16, 2020 15:37:03 GMT -5
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Jul 16, 2020 15:56:07 GMT -5
I agree there is a rise in children but I think it is important to find out is there a rise in hospitalization. I believe that numbers will continue to grow because of testing and people's concerns of the unknown but my concerns is this causing more problems at the hospitals which will put us back to square 1 |
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Post by bogan on Jul 16, 2020 16:13:39 GMT -5
I agree there is a rise in children but I think it is important to find out is there a rise in hospitalization. I believe that numbers will continue to grow because of testing and people's concerns of the unknown but my concerns is this causing more problems at the hospitals which will put us back to square 1 Agree-there are so many unknowns. A close friend is an ER doc and he said he has given up trying to predict caseloads. Sometimes he’s flooded with patients with the virus and other times not. However, he does say it’s increasing. I’ve asked if he thought it was “safe” for the kids to play soccer. He just said that’s a loaded question-it boils down to what you are comfortable with. |
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