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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jul 1, 2020 14:46:06 GMT -5
Tennessee COVID-19 State of Emergency has been extended through August 29, which means TSSAA programs cannot have any competition or scrimmages with other schools and cannot have close contact activities during their fundamental practice during that period.
Tennessee fall high school sports, which includes girls soccer, were scheduled to begin practice July 27 with an August 17 first date for competition.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jul 1, 2020 15:29:20 GMT -5
Tennessee COVID-19 State of Emergency has been extended through August 29, which means TSSAA programs cannot have any competition or scrimmages with other schools and cannot have close contact activities during their fundamental practice during that period. Tennessee fall high school sports, which includes girls soccer, were scheduled to begin practice July 27 with an August 17 first date for competition. Sounds like it. Can't make it seem like others care while you don't... we'll see how fast the other dominoes fall. My guess is it won't take long. |
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Post by rocko1989 on Jul 2, 2020 7:08:19 GMT -5
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Jul 2, 2020 8:17:01 GMT -5
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Post by ga3v3 on Jul 2, 2020 8:30:46 GMT -5
Like I’ve said before the people that seem to want to get back to “normal” the most desperately are the same ones not wearing masks. The question I ask people all of the time is “what’s the downside of putting a mask on when your inside a business?” Still waiting for an adequate answer....
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Post by rocko1989 on Jul 2, 2020 9:30:50 GMT -5
Like I’ve said before the people that seem to want to get back to “normal” the most desperately are the same ones not wearing masks. The question I ask people all of the time is “what’s the downside of putting a mask on when your inside a business?” Still waiting for an adequate answer.... Here is what I find interesting about the mask debate: I have seen my doctor a couple of times recently for some routine stuff. When I specifically asked him his thoughts about masks, he told me there is no need to wear one at all. Nobody in the office was wearing one-they were around-just not covering mouths and noses. Those were for severely ill patients. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 2, 2020 9:35:44 GMT -5
Like I’ve said before the people that seem to want to get back to “normal” the most desperately are the same ones not wearing masks. The question I ask people all of the time is “what’s the downside of putting a mask on when your inside a business?” Still waiting for an adequate answer.... I keep saying this. It's such a strange hill to die on, too.
The tantrums I see people throwing over a piece of cloth (something that EVERY doctor/nurse/emt wears every day) are just mind blowing. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 2, 2020 9:36:35 GMT -5
Like I’ve said before the people that seem to want to get back to “normal” the most desperately are the same ones not wearing masks. The question I ask people all of the time is “what’s the downside of putting a mask on when your inside a business?” Still waiting for an adequate answer.... Here is what I find interesting about the mask debate: I have seen my doctor a couple of times recently for some routine stuff. When I specifically asked him his thoughts about masks, he told me there is no need to wear one at all. Nobody in the office was wearing one-they were around-just not covering mouths and noses. Those were for severely ill patients. You may want to change doctors.. just saying. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jul 2, 2020 9:52:49 GMT -5
www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2020-06-29/pediatric-group-calls-for-children-to-return-to-schools-despite-coronavirusPediatric Associations are recommending students return to school in the fall (in person). They are also recommending kids get outside and play, including sports. While I agree college age is different, I would think younger kids would be better served having social interaction and getting outside. Exactly what the age cutoff is, I have no idea. I do not believe a blanket cancellation from U8 - U19 is what is necessary at this point. Local clubs should be able to do the same thing schools are doing. If parents are comfortable with in-person training/games, then send your kids. If you aren't comfortable with it, keep your kids at home. The clubs are already protected to an extent if they had parents sign a COVID waiver.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jul 2, 2020 9:55:52 GMT -5
Here is what I find interesting about the mask debate: I have seen my doctor a couple of times recently for some routine stuff. When I specifically asked him his thoughts about masks, he told me there is no need to wear one at all. Nobody in the office was wearing one-they were around-just not covering mouths and noses. Those were for severely ill patients. You may want to change doctors.. just saying. I would second this statement. I went in for my annual wellness exam this year and everyone was required to wear a mask in the clinic. All the doctors and staff members wore masks as well. In addition, my Dr. told me a few best practices to try and avoid COVID (staying home wasn't one of them). She mentioned wearing a mask in public, eating well, exercising, and getting outside. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 2, 2020 10:33:20 GMT -5
You may want to change doctors.. just saying. I would second this statement. I went in for my annual wellness exam this year and everyone was required to wear a mask in the clinic. All the doctors and staff members wore masks as well. In addition, my Dr. told me a few best practices to try and avoid COVID (staying home wasn't one of them). She mentioned wearing a mask in public, eating well, exercising, and getting outside. Same. And doctors, dentists, orthodontists, vets... nobody unnecessary inside at all. Everyone masked up, temp taken, hand sanitized... |
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Post by rocko1989 on Jul 2, 2020 10:36:53 GMT -5
Here is what I find interesting about the mask debate: I have seen my doctor a couple of times recently for some routine stuff. When I specifically asked him his thoughts about masks, he told me there is no need to wear one at all. Nobody in the office was wearing one-they were around-just not covering mouths and noses. Those were for severely ill patients. You may want to change doctors.. just saying. Or maybe, just maybe, my doctor recognizes that where I live, which is a pretty rural environment, there is really no evidence to support a mask will protect me. And he recognizes I am not a threat to anyone else. He graduated medical school. He is privy to the latest research and information. Maybe I will trust his judgement. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 2, 2020 10:38:40 GMT -5
Sounds like a bunch of people stabbing in the dark. Just like it was in March.
Anyways, mask ordinances are stupid and I'm not sure they would be upheld in a constitutional challenge (nor should they). But why even let it go there?
The goal should be to get people to WANT TO wear masks, correct?
Some personalities which naturally align themselves with one political party do not mind compulsory declarations if they feel like they're helping society, other personalities that typically align with another political party automatically resist compulsory declarations, seeing the importance of liberty over life. I see and understand both viewpoints.
However, people getting upset about businesses requiring masks are obviously dumb. Many businesses require shirt and shoes to enter the door, its a simple hygiene issue.
But attracting flies with honey is the way to go IMO. How about tax incentives for businesses that require masks? How about even better incentives for businesses which have 100% compliance? Money, its the #1 motivator.
Anecdotally, sitting at TOCA with a mask on for an hour, the mask becomes oppressive and I have to lift it every 5 min or so just to get a decent full breath. They are not pleasant to wear.
Lastly, people like Joy Behar saying she drives around to lambast and snitch on people not wearing masks, and the tip line for social distance/ gatherings...I have one word...Orwellian.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 2, 2020 10:48:44 GMT -5
You may want to change doctors.. just saying. Or maybe, just maybe, my doctor recognizes that where I live, which is a pretty rural environment, there is really no evidence to support a mask will protect me. And he recognizes I am not a threat to anyone else. He graduated medical school. He is privy to the latest research and information. Maybe I will trust his judgement. I know lots of people who graduated medical school. Some of them had Cs.
Remember (as a nice public example), Dr Ben Carson is considered to have been a great surgeon.. he also believes that the pyramids were built to store grain for the pharaohs.
Just because they graduated medical school doesn't mean they have a lick of common sense.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Jul 2, 2020 11:44:15 GMT -5
I want things to be normal. I wear a mask in public. Without hunting down the info, I’ve seen lots of stories about rising cases, and nothing about rising deaths (yes I know they are not zero). Maybe I’m missing it, but not seeing those headlines. It seems like there are many more asymptomatic cases with the additional testing, particularly when testing for other purposes (MLS for example). Makes me hope it’s less deadly and health altering for the healthy population. Would love that for everybody of course.
All makes me hopefully that low risk populations (kids ferried by middle aged adults) can participate in sports this fall if they choose to accept the risk. Youth club sports aren’t exactly apples-to-apples when compared to SEC football or even HS football. Unless they play in empty stadiums... even then it’s a different scale with more coaches, more players, more referees, trainers, etc. Look at a football sideline compared to your kid’s soccer bench. Well if you can remember from 3+ months ago 😜
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 2, 2020 11:48:41 GMT -5
This is a good point. In Georgia at least, the rise in cases since Memorial Day has not had a correlated rise in mortality. Maybe it will long term, but over the last month this hasn't been the case.
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Post by soccer55 on Jul 2, 2020 13:35:08 GMT -5
Here is what I find interesting about the mask debate: I have seen my doctor a couple of times recently for some routine stuff. When I specifically asked him his thoughts about masks, he told me there is no need to wear one at all. Nobody in the office was wearing one-they were around-just not covering mouths and noses. Those were for severely ill patients. You may want to change doctors.. just saying. No kidding, just because a doctor has an MD likely doesn’t mean he is doing research on this infectious virus. But I bet she/he can prescribe a statin and treat hypertension with the best of them. |
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Post by bogan on Jul 2, 2020 13:37:43 GMT -5
You may want to change doctors.. just saying. No kidding, just because a doctor has an MD likely doesn’t mean he is doing research on this infectious virus. But I bet she/he can prescribe a statin and treat hypertension with the best of them. Q: What do you call a person who finishes last in their class at Med school? A: Doctor. |
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Post by nole95 on Jul 2, 2020 13:47:22 GMT -5
The 7 day line for deaths in Georgia has been trending down for the past 17 days.
If you follow the graphs on the GA Dept of Health website, a very large percentage of these new cases are in the less than 30 age group. The ones that are least at risk of dying.
I read somewhere last week that children under 15 have a larger chance of getting struck by lightning than they do of dying from Covid. Kids need social interaction and they need to be outdoors. As does everyone else.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jul 2, 2020 13:51:13 GMT -5
Anecdotally, sitting at TOCA with a mask on for an hour, the mask becomes oppressive and I have to lift it every 5 min or so just to get a decent full breath. They are not pleasant to wear. I'm surprised you are allowed in at TOCA. Where we go for indoor all parents need to stay outside in the parking lot. If we want to talk with the coach we are supposed to have our player notify him and he will come outside. In addition he is taking temperature upon arrival and has mandatory hand sanitizer during water break. I agree with the breathing issue when I wear mine, especially when it's hot out or I am indoors. I'm not a huge fan of wearing the mask, but I personally think it is warranted so I am doing it. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jul 2, 2020 13:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by soccer55 on Jul 2, 2020 13:54:46 GMT -5
The 7 day line for deaths in Georgia has been trending down for the past 17 days. If you follow the graphs on the GA Dept of Health website, a very large percentage of these new cases are in the less than 30 age group. The ones that are least at risk of dying. I read somewhere last week that children under 15 have a larger chance of getting struck by lightning than they do of dying from Covid. Kids need social interaction and they need to be outdoors. As does everyone else. Very true, and it can be possible if everyone wears a mask in public indoor areas and when they will be in close contact. If that’s too difficult then youth soccer and any youth sports will be put on hold. It’s not a difficult choice in a public perspective. Johnny and Jenny can get outside and run on their own or with a close friend...organized sports which we all love aren’t as important as we make it out to be on here |
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 2, 2020 13:56:56 GMT -5
Sounds like a bunch of people stabbing in the dark. Just like it was in March. Anyways, mask ordinances are stupid and I'm not sure they would be upheld in a constitutional challenge (nor should they). But why even let it go there? The goal should be to get people to WANT TO wear masks, correct? Some personalities which naturally align themselves with one political party do not mind compulsory declarations if they feel like they're helping society, other personalities that typically align with another political party automatically resist compulsory declarations, seeing the importance of liberty over life. I see and understand both viewpoints. However, people getting upset about businesses requiring masks are obviously dumb. Many businesses require shirt and shoes to enter the door, its a simple hygiene issue. But attracting flies with honey is the way to go IMO. How about tax incentives for businesses that require masks? How about even better incentives for businesses which have 100% compliance? Money, its the #1 motivator. Anecdotally, sitting at TOCA with a mask on for an hour, the mask becomes oppressive and I have to lift it every 5 min or so just to get a decent full breath. They are not pleasant to wear. Lastly, people like Joy Behar saying she drives around to lambast and snitch on people not wearing masks, and the tip line for social distance/ gatherings...I have one word...Orwellian. Where did you get your law degree from? If masks were mandated, the statute would almost certainly be upheld as constitutional. The police powers especially in times of emergency are very broad. Ask people of Japanese descent about the constitutionality of the police powers during World War II. Also we have some very basic examples like speed limits, seat belts, etc that show government‘s ability to mandate certain things or face criminal punishment. |
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Post by bogan on Jul 2, 2020 13:59:48 GMT -5
[br Someone once told me that the folks in Alabama are more than an hour behind... (Before anyone roasts me, I have family there-and I give them h3ll for it every chance I get). |
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Post by guest on Jul 2, 2020 14:00:48 GMT -5
Friends don’t let their friends’ kids go to Bama. WDE |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 2, 2020 19:04:27 GMT -5
You may want to change doctors.. just saying. Or maybe, just maybe, my doctor recognizes that where I live, which is a pretty rural environment, there is really no evidence to support a mask will protect me. And he recognizes I am not a threat to anyone else. He graduated medical school. He is privy to the latest research and information. Maybe I will trust his judgement. In addition to those doctors that graduate with C's as someone else mentioned, there are doctors that have to repeat years of med school as well. They generally don't like to kick out med students out of school. It is good that you trust your doctor because trust like that is important between a providers and patients. That being said I would be very concerned about the physician and staff not wearing masks when in close contact with patients. They also may be just not using it with those deemed low risk so they can save money on the masks or are concerned about availability and they want make sure they have supplies for when they do have the sick ones. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 2, 2020 19:08:19 GMT -5
Anecdotally, sitting at TOCA with a mask on for an hour, the mask becomes oppressive and I have to lift it every 5 min or so just to get a decent full breath. They are not pleasant to wear. I'm surprised you are allowed in at TOCA. Where we go for indoor all parents need to stay outside in the parking lot. If we want to talk with the coach we are supposed to have our player notify him and he will come outside. In addition he is taking temperature upon arrival and has mandatory hand sanitizer during water break. I agree with the breathing issue when I wear mine, especially when it's hot out or I am indoors. I'm not a huge fan of wearing the mask, but I personally think it is warranted so I am doing it. You will get used to wearing a mask if you wear it. I used to wear one all day long and trust me that my heart rate was up pretty high and I was breathing heavily with exertion using a mallet to pound metal rods into broken legs while wearing a 40lbs lead apron and being pregnant. One of our ortho sayings "suck it up butter cup." |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jul 2, 2020 21:22:00 GMT -5
Sounds like a bunch of people stabbing in the dark. Just like it was in March. Anyways, mask ordinances are stupid and I'm not sure they would be upheld in a constitutional challenge (nor should they). But why even let it go there? The goal should be to get people to WANT TO wear masks, correct? Some personalities which naturally align themselves with one political party do not mind compulsory declarations if they feel like they're helping society, other personalities that typically align with another political party automatically resist compulsory declarations, seeing the importance of liberty over life. I see and understand both viewpoints. However, people getting upset about businesses requiring masks are obviously dumb. Many businesses require shirt and shoes to enter the door, its a simple hygiene issue. But attracting flies with honey is the way to go IMO. How about tax incentives for businesses that require masks? How about even better incentives for businesses which have 100% compliance? Money, its the #1 motivator. Anecdotally, sitting at TOCA with a mask on for an hour, the mask becomes oppressive and I have to lift it every 5 min or so just to get a decent full breath. They are not pleasant to wear. Lastly, people like Joy Behar saying she drives around to lambast and snitch on people not wearing masks, and the tip line for social distance/ gatherings...I have one word...Orwellian. Where did you get your law degree from? If masks were mandated, the statute would almost certainly be upheld as constitutional. The police powers especially in times of emergency are very broad. Ask people of Japanese descent about the constitutionality of the police powers during World War II. Also we have some very basic examples like speed limits, seat belts, etc that show government‘s ability to mandate certain things or face criminal punishment. That's not what you should be upset about in his comments... It should be that he watched/quoted something form Joy Behar!!! Ugh... she's freakin' horrible.. Pew! |
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Jul 2, 2020 21:28:54 GMT -5
www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/Here's the GA data. Just like in the spring in NY and CA/WA, the spread takes times to manifest in confirmed cases because it takes a couple of weeks to show symptoms, get tested and get results. Confirmed cases started spiking 2 weeks ago. Hospitalizations have doubled since then. HOW CAN ANYONE THINK DEATHS WON'T FOLLOW? It takes time to die from COVID. Guys... the season is already cancelled, we just don't know it yet.
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Post by rifle on Jul 2, 2020 22:00:03 GMT -5
[br Someone once told me that the folks in Alabama are more than an hour behind... (Before anyone roasts me, I have family there-and I give them h3ll for it every chance I get). 150 miles... or twenty five years is what I heard. |
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