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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 17, 2020 14:39:17 GMT -5
Its actually an equation: Successful Infection = Exposure to Virus x Time. Do I actually need to go into detail to compare the professions against that equation? This isn't about prioritizing one over another or a tiered level of importance for any profession for that matter. If you truly want kids back in school and not looking for a short term fix we collectively need to be on the same page, hence our overall objectives being the same. Ok so NON-vulnerable staff should go back. So who might that group be (and please respond to this one)? The only non-vulnerable group according to everyone are the kids. Maybe, the kids could teach each other, drive the buses, even open car doors at drop off lane, serve the food, clean the bathrooms etc. and have you seen an elementary/middle school bathroom lately? Again, my kids have been training/practicing since early April. Plan to go back to school, thankfully for now its possible for them. If and when that changes so be it. As you can see, my risk tolerance for them is high, we've made those calculations as a family and comfortable with that decision. But I'm not going to pretend I have the right to make that decision on anyone else's behalf. Lastly, the data isn't the problem. The problem is your subjective views about the data and I believe that goes for most of us. We all analyze it differently and project those differences as fact. Again its not personal, but you can't start a statement about being amazed at the differing view points when you are partaking in the same practices. That's all and I appreciate the banter on this slow virtual work Friday. It's pretty clear who is vulnerable and who isn't if you look at the stats. Kids aren't. If you take out deaths with pre-existing conditions people from ages 18-60 or so aren't either. So basically non-vulnerable means healthy employees with no major pre-existing conditions. When I mean major I mean like you already have ailments you have to see a doctor about all the time that decrease the quality of your life. A person that is by technical terms "obese" but really just a little overweight is not the obese people that are dying from this. People like to use the obese thing. If you go look the majority of obese people dying from there are morbidly obese (meaning 350-600 lb range....) Someone like myself at 250 when I should be about 210 isn't going to have the issue the 350-600 lb person with breathing etc...
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Post by fridge on Jul 17, 2020 14:50:25 GMT -5
Its actually an equation: Successful Infection = Exposure to Virus x Time. Do I actually need to go into detail to compare the professions against that equation? This isn't about prioritizing one over another or a tiered level of importance for any profession for that matter. If you truly want kids back in school and not looking for a short term fix we collectively need to be on the same page, hence our overall objectives being the same. Ok so NON-vulnerable staff should go back. So who might that group be (and please respond to this one)? The only non-vulnerable group according to everyone are the kids. Maybe, the kids could teach each other, drive the buses, even open car doors at drop off lane, serve the food, clean the bathrooms etc. and have you seen an elementary/middle school bathroom lately? Again, my kids have been training/practicing since early April. Plan to go back to school, thankfully for now its possible for them. If and when that changes so be it. As you can see, my risk tolerance for them is high, we've made those calculations as a family and comfortable with that decision. But I'm not going to pretend I have the right to make that decision on anyone else's behalf. Lastly, the data isn't the problem. The problem is your subjective views about the data and I believe that goes for most of us. We all analyze it differently and project those differences as fact. Again its not personal, but you can't start a statement about being amazed at the differing view points when you are partaking in the same practices. That's all and I appreciate the banter on this slow virtual work Friday. I've enjoyed the good faith banter. So, you still have not given any objective data when King/Queen Inmionion would allow school to open. Is it ZERO deaths/ICUs? Answer it --pretty please! Meanwhile, you ask a question of who is "nonvulnerable" like it is unkown. There is an answer. CDC Data shows that anyone under 60 with no serious vulnerabilities (and the CDC lists them) are more risk to die on the way to work than from Covid. So, pre-Covid you and all teachers were willing to take the risk of death driving to school. If the risk of dying from Covid for under 60 with no serious vulnerabilities is less than the risk of driving, why not open the schools? Finally, I am not being subjective about the data. I am literally quoting it which is absolutely objective. Meanwhile, you are just choosing to ignore it as you have yet to counter with a data driven argument. Even so, I am not blaming you for feeling how you feel. I was looking up the various risks of death just now. Car wreck odds are 1/103; Lightning strike odds are 1/180,000--which makes lightning death virtually impossible. However, when I hear thunder I run to my car and drive home. LOL With that --Have a great weekend!
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jul 17, 2020 14:59:26 GMT -5
Very very bad analogy. If you are going to do an analogy make it statistically accurate at least. For kids its like having 1 poisoned M&M in a bowl of 9089 M&M's at least in Georgia and their stats. For ages 18-39 it would be like 14 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 For ages 40-60 it would be like 97 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 For ages 60-69: it would be like 435 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 For ages 70+ it would be like 1549 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 So as you can see yes the risk goes up with age, but honestly even this analogy doesn't cover everything. You then have to breakdown by pre-existing conditions or healthy indviduals. Since we know most deaths are attributed to people with pre-existing condition either known or discovered after they get covid-19 you would have to adjust the analogy above if you are a healthy individual and then the odds go down way further. The facts are that young people to about age 40 are pretty safe. After that the risk increases but if you are healthy and factor out deaths with pre-existing conditions your risk is likely right around where the 40 and under crowd is that are pretty safe with or without pre-existing conditions. In other words if you really look at the stats its hard to grasp why we are doing what we are doing to our country and to our kids especially. I pulled these numbers straight from DPH's website by age for GA. I adjusted most to make a bowl of 10,000 to make it consistent. Assuming the numbers are correct, which seems to be up for debate except when the numbers suit the slant, this still assumes that a) We're ok with kids getting sick though not dying and b) those kids are not spreading it elsewhere to more vulnerable people including the teachers in the classrooms with them. Personally as I've stated before I want them back in school and they can with masks and social distancing like we are doing elsewhere, but the point I was trying to make is what is an acceptable risk. If we knew that there is a .0001% chance of the child dying then I'm guessing that is an acceptable risk(it still might not be to a minority of people).
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Post by guest on Jul 17, 2020 15:17:19 GMT -5
Here’s my problem with it. Yes kids are mostly immune, not going to die, whatever. But at my wife’s and kids’ schools, many teachers (half? a third?) are old, overweight or have long term health issues. My wife has said teachers she knows call out all the time because of X, Y, Z issues which are now comorbidities. If old and high risk populations are supposed to isolate, we would have hardly any teachers. (Note to offended teachers: my wife is a teacher and I am a substitute teacher). I disagree with the poster that said obese means 500 lbs. Plenty of dead 250 lb’ers too.
And if we want to be honest, that’s why the US has higher numbers than other countries. We’re a fat, unhealthy nation (statistically speaking, not individually). You can’t swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting someone with diabetes, obesity, hypertension, COPD, opioid addiction, you name it. For the love of Mike, just look at TV commercials. They’re all for drugs. %|#€{* Boomers!! You ruined it for everybody!
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Post by fridge on Jul 17, 2020 15:30:44 GMT -5
The entire state of NY has averaged less than 20 deaths/day for the last several weeks and trending DOWN in new cases. The Northeast and mid-Atlantic are similar. Yet, the NYC city schools are still going part time and all the college leagues up there are postponing. Let's face it, even the data doesn't matter. (Have a good weekend--I promise!)
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 17, 2020 15:53:52 GMT -5
Very very bad analogy. If you are going to do an analogy make it statistically accurate at least. For kids its like having 1 poisoned M&M in a bowl of 9089 M&M's at least in Georgia and their stats. For ages 18-39 it would be like 14 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 For ages 40-60 it would be like 97 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 For ages 60-69: it would be like 435 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 For ages 70+ it would be like 1549 poison M&M's in a bowl of 10,000 So as you can see yes the risk goes up with age, but honestly even this analogy doesn't cover everything. You then have to breakdown by pre-existing conditions or healthy indviduals. Since we know most deaths are attributed to people with pre-existing condition either known or discovered after they get covid-19 you would have to adjust the analogy above if you are a healthy individual and then the odds go down way further. The facts are that young people to about age 40 are pretty safe. After that the risk increases but if you are healthy and factor out deaths with pre-existing conditions your risk is likely right around where the 40 and under crowd is that are pretty safe with or without pre-existing conditions. In other words if you really look at the stats its hard to grasp why we are doing what we are doing to our country and to our kids especially. I pulled these numbers straight from DPH's website by age for GA. I adjusted most to make a bowl of 10,000 to make it consistent. Assuming the numbers are correct, which seems to be up for debate except when the numbers suit the slant, this still assumes that a) We're ok with kids getting sick though not dying and b) those kids are not spreading it elsewhere to more vulnerable people including the teachers in the classrooms with them. Personally as I've stated before I want them back in school and they can with masks and social distancing like we are doing elsewhere, but the point I was trying to make is what is an acceptable risk. If we knew that there is a .0001% chance of the child dying then I'm guessing that is an acceptable risk(it still might not be to a minority of people). But if you look at the stats of them dying from the flu or dying in a car accident they are all more likely to die from those many times over than this and we don't stop getting into cars or sending our kids to school during flu season. Why is the extremely low 0.0001% risk not acceptable for this virus but a much higher risk is acceptable on many other things they do everyday?
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 17, 2020 15:58:42 GMT -5
We've got enough statisticians on this forum, what use am I quoting the same data just to have someone discredit it with another source of roughly the same information. Again, no one is challenging the accuracy of your data. How you decide to use it is another story. The subjection comes when we introduce it as binding to us, which is based upon our own individual environments, experiences and biases.
We all know the facts, I think 99% of the people on this forum understand the progression of risk due to age, pre-existing conditions, weight, blood-type and so on. What scares me is the reaction to those simply saying, I'm not willing to take this particular risk. I'll use your analogy, the educators already "hear the thunder", only they aren't running alone. In many cases those running along side them are love ones with the same underlying conditions we just discussed. Let's face it, our kids are cute, walking masses of germs that like to hug, touch and be affectionate with their teachers, at the younger ages of course. From the janitor to the superintendent, they all have our kids best interest in mind, we should trust them. So let's pick another villain (like TopHat) not teachers to defeat and reach our collective objectives.
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Post by bogan on Jul 17, 2020 16:06:16 GMT -5
“You can’t swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting someone...”😳🤣😆
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 17, 2020 16:50:00 GMT -5
Here’s my problem with it. Yes kids are mostly immune, not going to die, whatever. But at my wife’s and kids’ schools, many teachers (half? a third?) are old, overweight or have long term health issues. My wife has said teachers she knows call out all the time because of X, Y, Z issues which are now comorbidities. If old and high risk populations are supposed to isolate, we would have hardly any teachers. (Note to offended teachers: my wife is a teacher and I am a substitute teacher). I disagree with the poster that said obese means 500 lbs. Plenty of dead 250 lb’ers too. And if we want to be honest, that’s why the US has higher numbers than other countries. We’re a fat, unhealthy nation (statistically speaking, not individually). You can’t swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting someone with diabetes, obesity, hypertension, COPD, opioid addiction, you name it. For the love of Mike, just look at TV commercials. They’re all for drugs. %|#€{* Boomers!! You ruined it for everybody! You took my case to the extreme. The stats are that morbidly obese people are dying from this in more numbers than just technically barely "obese" people like myself. There is a clear difference between morbidly obese and just barely obese. Even the doctors are saying morbidly obese. I'm sorry but 250 lbs at 6 foot tall does not fall into the category of morbidly obese. Any 250 lb people dying from this aren't dying necessarily from being obese but most cases because of other more serious underlying issues as well. In a perfect world the older medically fragile teachers would be allowed to teach the people that opt for online learning, but we know that there are more kids opting for in-person over online anyway in most counties so that won't work for all. In my opinion if these medically fragile older teachers are going out and about and eating out and going to grocery stores instead of doing delivery service etc... then they really don't have a leg to stand on about complaining of going back to work. Also in reality there are a lot of employees that don't have a choice right now that work (people even with pre-existing conditions) because their employer tells them they have to or else they will get fired or have to quit. Why are teachers an exception and are allowed to tell their employer (the school system and the tax payer) what they will and will not do? The answer is they shouldn't be. I'm not allowed to do that. I would get canned in a heartbeat. As far as kids bringing it home to sickly family members well they don't have to go to in-person school. There are online options that will not expose those kids or the family to anything. If they still opt to send their kids to school anyway and one of the family members gets deathly sick or dies then that is on them. They knew the risk and decided it was an acceptable risk.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jul 17, 2020 21:11:50 GMT -5
Assuming the numbers are correct, which seems to be up for debate except when the numbers suit the slant, this still assumes that a) We're ok with kids getting sick though not dying and b) those kids are not spreading it elsewhere to more vulnerable people including the teachers in the classrooms with them. Personally as I've stated before I want them back in school and they can with masks and social distancing like we are doing elsewhere, but the point I was trying to make is what is an acceptable risk. If we knew that there is a .0001% chance of the child dying then I'm guessing that is an acceptable risk(it still might not be to a minority of people). But if you look at the stats of them dying from the flu or dying in a car accident they are all more likely to die from those many times over than this and we don't stop getting into cars or sending our kids to school during flu season. Why is the extremely low 0.0001% risk acceptable for this virus but a much higher risk is acceptable on many other things they do everyday? Very, very bad comparison to quote earlier. We mitigate risk in cars with seatbelts, airbags, speed limits, etc. We mitigate the flu with treatments, shots, drugs, and seeing people with the flu and avoiding them. If everyone doesn't mitigate risk with covid we're more apt to spreading it. And again, i'm not talking about dying i'm talking about just getting sick and going through it, suffering, and spreading it to people that it can be worse for. Whatever numbers are believed(People here openly discount the CDC and the numbers reported so if that's true we really can't have it both ways and use those same numbers to make our case.) We don't trust the experts, we don't trust scientists, we don't trust politicians, we definitely don't trust the media so if there isn't a plan to mitigate risk in the public school system by the people we trust with our children's safety from 8am-3pm then really that has to be enough to pause it. We can ague or debate it all you want on our youth soccer forum, that's not going to change what's happening so the best we can do is try and mitigate risk and do our part to get back to whatever normal we can get whether that's soccer, school or going into Kroger for groceries.
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 8:03:22 GMT -5
I’m not directing this at any one in particular, but from what I’ve seen personally, from folks that had/have it-it takes 2-3x as long to get over as the flu. And I’m not talking about the folks that have had to go into the hospital, either. Im usually over the flu in a week-a friend of mine is still battling COVID-today is day 12. He runs marathons. So he’s in decent shape... Bottom line is that it really sucks to get as an adult if you are over 40, even if you don’t die from it from what I’ve witnessed. That said, I want my kid to play sports-he’s got a tennis tournament today and soccer starts back in earnest hopefully August 1st. I’m going to let him play while I take necessary precautions to hopefully stay COVID free.
I wish everyone the best dealing with the pandemic. Stay safe, y’all.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jul 18, 2020 8:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by newposter on Jul 18, 2020 9:30:16 GMT -5
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Post by honeybadger on Jul 18, 2020 9:33:04 GMT -5
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Post by honeybadger on Jul 18, 2020 9:36:18 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 10:12:03 GMT -5
Yep-a lot of bad info and stats out there. Had a case locally that a young lady died from childbirth, but because she had a positive covid test the state labeled it as a COViD death. The local doctor even came out and said “she did not die from COViD.” That’s one of the biggest issues with the pandemic-bad or incomplete data. The other is politicization of the disease. However, the virus sucks and we shouldall do what we can to get it under control.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 18, 2020 11:00:07 GMT -5
I’m not directing this at any one in particular, but from what I’ve seen personally, from folks that had/have it-it takes 2-3x as long to get over as the flu. And I’m not talking about the folks that have had to go into the hospital, either. Im usually over the flu in a week-a friend of mine is still battling COVID-today is day 12. He runs marathons. So he’s in decent shape... Bottom line is that it really sucks to get as an adult if you are over 40, even if you don’t die from it from what I’ve witnessed. That said, I want my kid to play sports-he’s got a tennis tournament today and soccer starts back in earnest hopefully August 1st. I’m going to let him play while I take necessary precautions to hopefully stay COVID free. I wish everyone the best dealing with the pandemic. Stay safe, y’all. Marathon runner is only in decent shape? What is in good shape to you?🤣🤣🤣
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 11:02:14 GMT -5
I’m not directing this at any one in particular, but from what I’ve seen personally, from folks that had/have it-it takes 2-3x as long to get over as the flu. And I’m not talking about the folks that have had to go into the hospital, either. Im usually over the flu in a week-a friend of mine is still battling COVID-today is day 12. He runs marathons. So he’s in decent shape... Bottom line is that it really sucks to get as an adult if you are over 40, even if you don’t die from it from what I’ve witnessed. That said, I want my kid to play sports-he’s got a tennis tournament today and soccer starts back in earnest hopefully August 1st. I’m going to let him play while I take necessary precautions to hopefully stay COVID free. I wish everyone the best dealing with the pandemic. Stay safe, y’all. Marathon runner is only in decent shape? What is in good shape to you?🤣🤣🤣 Sorry forgot to put it in sarcasm font 🤣
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 18, 2020 11:06:56 GMT -5
Two friends of mine who don't know each other both went for CV testing. They filled out the paperwork and waited. They got tired of waiting and both left. 1-2 weeks later they each receive a letter stating they tested positive. So for those who call people who think this is a little overblown "idiots" and other nonsense, you may want to rethink that. Or how about the 334 testing centers in Fla last week that a local news station reported ALL 5,000 people tested that day tested positive? You think that is statistically possible? No it's not. My own uncle tested positive in Alabama, but he was asymptomatic and never had other family members tested. It's a household of 5. The paperwork counted all 5 as positive for CV. So forgive me if I'm not going to be a sheep like some people. Also, if you expand your horizons and check different sources for news you will see many epidemiologists say the masks are more harm than good. They are often laid down at home (any virus from the store that landed on the mask is still there, plus any bacteria they may be around) and used over and over. So no, I don't buy everything I'm told just because CNN or MSNBC tells me. Kids are less likely to catch it being out in open air on a soccer field than staying couped up or going to the grocery store. Outdoors is better than indoors--that's basic common sense. Ok badger dude.. I'll bite Cite an epidemiologist that says masks do more harm than good. I'm sure they've published their findings and didn't just go on Alex Jones, so it should be easy for you to dig up. *Crickets*
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jul 18, 2020 17:55:54 GMT -5
I’m not directing this at any one in particular, but from what I’ve seen personally, from folks that had/have it-it takes 2-3x as long to get over as the flu. And I’m not talking about the folks that have had to go into the hospital, either. Im usually over the flu in a week-a friend of mine is still battling COVID-today is day 12. He runs marathons. So he’s in decent shape... Bottom line is that it really sucks to get as an adult if you are over 40, even if you don’t die from it from what I’ve witnessed. That said, I want my kid to play sports-he’s got a tennis tournament today and soccer starts back in earnest hopefully August 1st. I’m going to let him play while I take necessary precautions to hopefully stay COVID free. I wish everyone the best dealing with the pandemic. Stay safe, y’all. Agree 100% . It's not just "the Flu". It's a little worse. It spreads easily. It takes longer to leave. Its not Ebola, but it will ruin your week. Or three. And if you are a cooperative member of society, it will have additional impact while you change your daily routine under self-quarantine while recovering. What is interesting however, now that this is a common topic of conversation, is how easy it is to recognize the people that don't really care if they spread their germs... the ones not wearing masks and the same ones that (in regular times) send their kids to school sick, go to restaurants or the movies feeling a little under the weather, etc.
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jul 18, 2020 17:57:12 GMT -5
Yep-a lot of bad info and stats out there. Had a case locally that a young lady died from childbirth, but because she had a positive covid test the state labeled it as a COViD death. The local doctor even came out and said “she did not die from COViD.” That’s one of the biggest issues with the pandemic-bad or incomplete data. The other is politicization of the disease. However, the virus sucks and we shouldall do what we can to get it under control. Was that in the news? How did you hear about this "mis-labeling" of a COVID case. Genuinely intetested.
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 18:06:40 GMT -5
Yep-a lot of bad info and stats out there. Had a case locally that a young lady died from childbirth, but because she had a positive covid test the state labeled it as a COViD death. The local doctor even came out and said “she did not die from COViD.” That’s one of the biggest issues with the pandemic-bad or incomplete data. The other is politicization of the disease. However, the virus sucks and we shouldall do what we can to get it under control. Was that in the news? How did you hear about this "mis-labeling" of a COVID case. Genuinely intetested. Correct-I’ll see if I can find the article and post it.
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Post by footyfan on Jul 18, 2020 18:18:53 GMT -5
Until we hear from the hospitals that deaths are being improperly diagnosed, it's all just fodder for the extremist rags. Breitbart, Infowars, OANN etc live off that utter gullibility of its adherents.
As we hear "they" make more money off covid patients in the same breath as "they" are laying off doctors and nurses, because "they" can't make money, we realize that the adherents have no, no, idea what they are rambling about.
Follow the data. Ignore the news. Go straight to the sources.
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 18:20:00 GMT -5
Was that in the news? How did you hear about this "mis-labeling" of a COVID case. Genuinely intetested. Correct-I’ll see if I can find the article and post it. [ I couldn’t find that article online anymore but I did find this: “GDPH reported a 25th death in Troup County on Friday as well. The number of deaths had actually decreased by one to 24...” m.lagrangenews.com/2020/06/19/new-high-for-covid-19-patients-at-wgmc/So, there are duplicate entries and errors in reporting.
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 18:26:42 GMT -5
Until we hear from the hospitals that deaths are being improperly diagnosed, it's all just fodder for the extremist rags. Breitbart, Infowars, OANN etc live off that utter gullibility of its adherents. As we hear "they" make more money off covid patients in the same breath as "they" are laying off doctors and nurses, because "they" can't make money, we realize that the adherents have no, no, idea what they are rambling about. Follow the data. Ignore the news. Go straight to the sources. I don’t think (at least from the hospitals) there is any intention in misrepresenting the data-I just think human error and lack of a consistent methodology (especially in the early days of the pandemic) caused confusion and erroneous data.
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Post by rifle on Jul 18, 2020 18:27:40 GMT -5
Until we hear from the hospitals that deaths are being improperly diagnosed, it's all just fodder for the extremist rags. Breitbart, Infowars, OANN etc live off that utter gullibility of its adherents. As we hear "they" make more money off covid patients in the same breath as "they" are laying off doctors and nurses, because "they" can't make money, we realize that the adherents have no, no, idea what they are rambling about. Follow the data. Ignore the news. Go straight to the sources. things that suck: Cancer and other horrible illnesses Unemployment Unsubstantiated social media BS
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Post by footyfan on Jul 18, 2020 18:34:49 GMT -5
Until we hear from the hospitals that deaths are being improperly diagnosed, it's all just fodder for the extremist rags. Breitbart, Infowars, OANN etc live off that utter gullibility of its adherents. As we hear "they" make more money off covid patients in the same breath as "they" are laying off doctors and nurses, because "they" can't make money, we realize that the adherents have no, no, idea what they are rambling about. Follow the data. Ignore the news. Go straight to the sources. I don’t think (at least from the hospitals) there is any intention in misrepresenting the data-I just think human error and lack of a consistent methodology (especially in the early days of the pandemic) caused confusion and erroneous data. Very true. See the representations of cases per 100k on the GA health site. The shift in covid case #s categories makes it seem like things arent getting worse. Likely a problem with folks not understanding tableaus auto-categorizations(or whatever tech), not evil staff lying to make numbers appear low in the visualizations. Jumping to conspiracies is a whole diff level of absurd. Those people need to quiet down a whole bunch on both sides.
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Post by rifle on Jul 18, 2020 18:57:28 GMT -5
It is amazing that the data isn’t transparent. I’d like to do things like sort by BMI, by age, etc to try to see statistical trends. Not sure how that type of data can account for comorbidities but surely there is a way to publish.
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Post by footyfan on Jul 18, 2020 18:58:39 GMT -5
It is amazing that the data isn’t transparent. I’d like to do things like sort by BMI, by age, etc to try to see statistical trends. Not sure how that type of data can account for comorbidities but surely there is a way to publish. Rules regarding PII make it difficult to know too much about medical cases.
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Post by bogan on Jul 18, 2020 19:06:47 GMT -5
It is amazing that the data isn’t transparent. I’d like to do things like sort by BMI, by age, etc to try to see statistical trends. Not sure how that type of data can account for comorbidities but surely there is a way to publish. The data I have seen only list a yes or no for comorbidity It would be interesting to see a breakdown. Age Gender Race Comorbidity 37 Female Black No 57 Female Black No 58 Female Black Yes 61 Female Black Yes 65 Female Black Yes 66 Female Black Yes 66 Male White Unknown 69 Male Black Yes 71 Female Black Yes 74 Male Black Yes 74 Female Black Yes 74 Female Unknown Unknown 75 Female White Yes 81 Male Black No 82 Female White Yes
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