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Post by mightydawg on Aug 10, 2020 14:22:45 GMT -5
And while I’m thinking of it, if there are fewer college non-football teams, then you wouldn’t need many HS sports right? Just play Club soccer, no HS. It’s becoming like that in many sports. With the exception of football, club has already replaced high school for where most of the recruiting occurs. AAU is more important than high school basketball. Showcases has replaced high school soccer for recruiting purposes. Volleyball club>high school. Swimming club>high school. Summer ball for baseball > high school for both colleges and MLB draft.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Aug 10, 2020 14:47:43 GMT -5
The loss of revenue from football(and basketball) feels like a no brainer for them to want to cancel from a monetary perspective, but I agree when it returns it's going to start to look a lot different than before. It will definitely hurt the non-revenue sports as well. I do think that this was coming with or without covid, with the players getting the rights to their likeness just being the start of it.
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Post by guest on Aug 10, 2020 14:59:52 GMT -5
And while I’m thinking of it, if there are fewer college non-football teams, then you wouldn’t need many HS sports right? Just play Club soccer, no HS. It’s becoming like that in many sports. With the exception of football, club has already replaced high school for where most of the recruiting occurs. AAU is more important than high school basketball. Showcases has replaced high school soccer for recruiting purposes. Volleyball club>high school. Swimming club>high school. Summer ball for baseball > high school for both colleges and MLB draft. I know that is where recruiting takes place. I was a D1 swimmer. What I’m suggesting is there is no need to have HS soccer if there is no college soccer. If everything goes to semi-pro sports instead of college sports, then there is no need for HS sports. Just play club or AAU or rec or whatever. See?! Solving the worlds problems on an anonymous soccer forum!!
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Post by mistergrinch on Aug 10, 2020 15:10:44 GMT -5
It may be on Twitter, but it's not on ESPN yet.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 10, 2020 15:48:31 GMT -5
Its about time they move NCAA football and basketball (possibly baseball) to a minor-league professional system that is a fundraising arm of the universities. There is no reason to keep the current paradigm anymore. No need for them to be student-athletes as they're about to be professionals anyways. I am torn on the subject. If athletes take advantage of it, a free college education is a significant benefit. If you are talking about Vanderbilt ($73K per year), Duke ($77K per year), Northwestern ($78K per year) and the like, players are receiving a $300K benefit not including the academic support and training support provided by the schools. Also, i don't know how you would manage setting the pay scale for recruits and the like. On the football side of it, I have seen too many 5 star players not pan out while a 2 or 3 star, turns into a superstar. If it only truly worked like that. I’ve known so many D1 athletes who get this “free” education and end up with 3-4 years of study in like leisure sports or some random Communications or Sociology degree that they have no interest in or didn't have the time to take the detailed courses to actually get a career out of it. Too many times classes and majors are dictated by when practice is and if something too hard they’re told to drop it and find something else instead of trying to buckle down and study through it.
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Post by atlutd17 on Aug 10, 2020 16:25:32 GMT -5
It's happening. Big 10 football is completely cancelled.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 10, 2020 16:43:15 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Aug 10, 2020 17:17:34 GMT -5
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Post by soccerspin on Aug 10, 2020 19:00:50 GMT -5
Based on limited studies and can be caused by many other viruses... Has there been any evidence athletes are picking up the virus on the field of play? If not, keep taking the precautions and let them play. And if some want to opt out, allow them to do so without penalty.
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Post by bogan on Aug 10, 2020 19:20:55 GMT -5
Based on limited studies and can be caused by many other viruses... Has there been any evidence athletes are picking up the virus on the field of play? If not, keep taking the precautions and let them play. And if some want to opt out, allow them to do so without penalty. I tend to agree but there are attorneys out there just waiting to pounce. 98% of attorneys give the other 2% a bad name...
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Post by wolves97 on Aug 10, 2020 19:40:14 GMT -5
Friend of mine’s son plays for the University of Indiana’s soccer team.
They were told there would be an announcement tomorrow
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Post by soccerspin on Aug 10, 2020 20:21:01 GMT -5
Based on limited studies and can be caused by many other viruses... Has there been any evidence athletes are picking up the virus on the field of play? If not, keep taking the precautions and let them play. And if some want to opt out, allow them to do so without penalty. I tend to agree but there are attorneys out there just waiting to pounce. 98% of attorneys give the other 2% a bad name... True, but that’s why we’re signing all those new Covid waivers right? 😉
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Post by bogan on Aug 10, 2020 20:35:56 GMT -5
I tend to agree but there are attorneys out there just waiting to pounce. 98% of attorneys give the other 2% a bad name... True, but that’s why we’re signing all those new Covid waivers right? 😉 I’m sure we are going to find out how well they were written in the coming months.
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Post by roki12 on Aug 11, 2020 8:20:21 GMT -5
I love college football This is sad and devastating for sure, but not as sad as all the people who continue to be affected by Covid whether health or financially or otherwise.
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Post by mistergrinch on Aug 11, 2020 14:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Aug 11, 2020 14:24:57 GMT -5
Good info. The news wire (ESPN)makes it sound like the SEC is going to plow ahead no matter what.
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Post by fgug on Aug 11, 2020 14:30:32 GMT -5
I’m really curious what people think the odds are we have a soccer season. I don’t care about the “should we” or not. Simply the odds of “will we?”
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 11, 2020 14:34:13 GMT -5
Good info. The news wire (ESPN)makes it sound like the SEC is going to plow ahead no matter what. I read that too. SEC has the green light to continue at the moment. They don't start games for 6 more weeks though. That is a lot of time for things to change.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 11, 2020 14:36:13 GMT -5
SEC commish is waiting as long as possible to make that decision -- right now them and the ACC plan to push forward for sure. That can always change....
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 11, 2020 14:36:28 GMT -5
I’m really curious what people think the odds are we have a soccer season. I don’t care about the “should we” or not. Simply the odds of “will we?” The delay in getting schedules out certainly makes me think that the season will not be played. I anticipate that the teams will continue to practice but that the games will be cancelled. I fully expect the decision to be announced around Labor Day weekend after Concorde, SSA, NTH and GSA have completed their tournaments. GSA suddenly adding the GSA Juniors Cup to its tournament offerings a couple of weeks ago helped to influence this perspective.
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Post by bogan on Aug 11, 2020 14:36:54 GMT -5
I’m really curious what people think the odds are we have a soccer season. I don’t care about the “should we” or not. Simply the odds of “will we?” Some season 90% Full Season 10%
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Aug 11, 2020 14:47:27 GMT -5
Piedmont NL schedules only official through Labor Day weekend, No GA L schedules. The SCCL seems spotty, no SCCL premier schedules, ECNL with mystery schedules beyond Labor Day..this is all looking shaky to me
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Post by ball2futbol on Aug 11, 2020 14:56:05 GMT -5
No surprise here, PAC-12 is about to announce by EOD cancellation of the season as well. Has anyone heard or seen definitive decisions on college fall sports outside of football?
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 11, 2020 14:58:06 GMT -5
No surprise here, PAC-12 is about to announce by EOD cancellation of the season as well. Has anyone heard or seen definitive decisions on college fall sports outside of football? Big 10 statement included all sports. Besides football, other sports impacted are men's and women's cross country, field hockey, men's and women's soccer and women's volleyball.
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Aug 11, 2020 15:54:49 GMT -5
I’m really curious what people think the odds are we have a soccer season. I don’t care about the “should we” or not. Simply the odds of “will we?” Some season 90% Full Season 10% I think even this is optimistic, but we may get a game or two in. It was pretty obvious 6 weeks ago that this was where we were headed. Pretending there is no virus doesn't do much to stop a virus from spreading. Whether you are willing to sacrifice granny or not, in today's litigious society there is almost no way we just play through all the kids getting infected (which, based on the full contact practicing I see, is more or less an epidemiological certainty if we stay the current course).
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Post by mistergrinch on Aug 11, 2020 16:42:07 GMT -5
No surprise here, PAC-12 is about to announce by EOD cancellation of the season as well. Has anyone heard or seen definitive decisions on college fall sports outside of football? Pac officially announced about an hour ago
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Post by rifle on Aug 11, 2020 19:18:39 GMT -5
I’m really curious what people think the odds are we have a soccer season. I don’t care about the “should we” or not. Simply the odds of “will we?” Definitely maybe, and unlikely.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 27, 2020 20:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by ball2futbol on Aug 27, 2020 21:06:15 GMT -5
Good reads. Sounds like the Big 10 made some gross miscalculations and/or assumptions. There’s been previous reporting on the lack of synergy amongst the power 5.
ND did what they do best, built upon an existing partnership with the ACC and both capitalized. Read an article recently on how ND survived during World War II due to a college training program they established with the US Navy. That relationship bears fruit for both institutions to this day.
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Post by footyfan on Sept 3, 2020 12:59:20 GMT -5
BREAKING: #PennState's director of athletic medicine, Wayne Sebastianelli, says that cardiac MRI scans revealed that roughly 30-35 percent of Big Ten athletes who tested positive for COVID-19 appeared to have myocarditis. t.co/md4p1IoaLh
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