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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 30, 2021 21:13:01 GMT -5
UFA ECRL coaches announced:
Girls:
Boys:
Very happy for Renata P. getting 09G ECRL.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 30, 2021 21:19:14 GMT -5
Very happy for Renata too as she deserves it. Great coach! Great person!
Unfortunately that means she will be at Forsyth. Big loss for Norcross.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 30, 2021 21:37:31 GMT -5
Very happy for Renata too as she deserves it. Great coach! Great person! Unfortunately that means she will be at Forsyth. Big loss for Norcross. Definitely is a loss. As a Norcross parent I’m bummed but she deserves it. She’s a gem of a coach, especially for young girls. Tough but fun practices and they love her. |
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Post by soccerworld1974 on Apr 30, 2021 21:45:29 GMT -5
Well deserved Renata. Pure class.
Honestly for a RL staff, not bad. Kudos to UFA.
A few of those coaches could easily be top level ECNL coaches.
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Post by upper90allday on Apr 30, 2021 22:41:37 GMT -5
SAPL now at UFA-Norcross ... is that good for the branch? I have no idea what it is ... my child is still in academy.
Thanks
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Post by soccerworld1974 on Apr 30, 2021 23:14:11 GMT -5
Don't know...
Ecnl
Ecnl RL
Than SAPL but with MLS next, don't know...
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Post by 04gparent on Apr 30, 2021 23:55:54 GMT -5
Bad leadership by the coach? Asking because the ok coaching comment makes it seem like two separate people? I always find the coaching comments interesting. A few 08 parents that I have spoken with were totally good with him. I too find the coaching comments interesting. I thought that talented 08 team won everything, so i am unsure as to what the problem could be. IMO from past experiences, when winning isn't the reason, teams find other issues to pick at(playing times, playing up, coaching styles, perceived favoritism, etc.). I wonder if the fact that these girls don't play their local counterparts as much or traverse the country to find worthy teams to play against is getting tiresome(btw good-luck in Austin). Or could it be the ECNL vs GAL comparison rearing it's ugly head again. When you have an all-star team, from the outside it may look rosy, but internally there might be a lot festering. I also think sometimes no one wants to be the one to break up the band so to say. Will be interesting to see how things end up when the transfer portal opens up next month. Not going to speculate because I think parents on that team should make decisions that benefit their individual kids. Last I checked, no college or soccer federation recruits a whole team. Wishing them all good fortunes as they decide on next moves... I respect the opinions from most people on this anonymous board but some advice is not all correct. The 08 rumor does sound similar to the 07 one but was later revealed that it was all about ECNL when GA was just a thought. IMO this is not about coaching or club leadership it is about playing in the ECNL. I personally know 06s, 07s, and 08s at several clubs around Atlanta. I have watched games in all 3 age groups. There is not a whole lot of development going on in Atlanta. Go check out the ECNL standings for the ATL teams. It’s rough. Several of the 07s who left TH last year are very unhappy. Unhappy enough to go back? I don’t know. Going back to a previous club means a parent swallowing their pride and thats hard. I agree with Futbol G that colleges don’t recruit teams, BUT the recruitment starts with players in the National pool them flows to teams with great records. Go to a showcase and watch how many college coaches are at a game with teams with losing records. I have seen it myself at ECNL and formerly DA showcases. Not many. Especially not many power 5 coaches. Quality of the team does matter. Every parent has to make up their own minds. I firmly believe parents are the key to player development. Elite players don’t develop in 3 practices a week. Sigh. Stepping off soap box. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 1, 2021 1:26:55 GMT -5
I think SAPL is the new name for the South Atlantic Premier League aka NPL that was originally run from the Forsyth location. Kudos to Renata and the rest of the ECRL coaches. Like soccerworld1974 some should already be coaching in the ECNL but there are only so many spots. I thought Renata was one of the Youth Directors at Norcross. Last year or two, I had heard that UFA-N location coaches could coach from either location that was convenient for them and their players. I hope this is the case with Renata, Norcross doesn't need to lose her to the North... |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 1, 2021 6:25:48 GMT -5
I think SAPL is the new name for the South Atlantic Premier League aka NPL that was originally run from the Forsyth location. Kudos to Renata and the rest of the ECRL coaches. Like soccerworld1974 some should already be coaching in the ECNL but there are only so many spots. I thought Renata was one of the Youth Directors at Norcross. Last year or two, I had heard that UFA-N location coaches could coach from either location that was convenient for them and their players. I hope this is the case with Renata, Norcross doesn't need to lose her to the North... She’s moving to Forsyth for good. Yes, she was the girls academy director at Norcross the last 2 seasons. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 1, 2021 6:39:21 GMT -5
I think SAPL is the new name for the South Atlantic Premier League aka NPL that was originally run from the Forsyth location. Kudos to Renata and the rest of the ECRL coaches. Like soccerworld1974 some should already be coaching in the ECNL but there are only so many spots. I thought Renata was one of the Youth Directors at Norcross. Last year or two, I had heard that UFA-N location coaches could coach from either location that was convenient for them and their players. I hope this is the case with Renata, Norcross doesn't need to lose her to the North... She is definitely going to Forsyth. It is indeed a huge loss for Norcross girls. Sergio one year and Renata the next. Ugh! Hopefully having SAPL will be a good thing and keep some girls at Norcross instead of jumping elsewhere. Hard for me to say though. In my mind, at the younger ages it is all about the coach. Clubs have to keep good coaches to keep the kids. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 1, 2021 6:56:51 GMT -5
I think SAPL is the new name for the South Atlantic Premier League aka NPL that was originally run from the Forsyth location. Kudos to Renata and the rest of the ECRL coaches. Like soccerworld1974 some should already be coaching in the ECNL but there are only so many spots. I thought Renata was one of the Youth Directors at Norcross. Last year or two, I had heard that UFA-N location coaches could coach from either location that was convenient for them and their players. I hope this is the case with Renata, Norcross doesn't need to lose her to the North... She is definitely going to Forsyth. It is indeed a huge loss for Norcross girls. Sergio one year and Renata the next. Ugh! Hopefully having SAPL will be a good thing and keep some girls at Norcross instead of jumping elsewhere. Hard for me to say though. In my mind, at the younger ages it is all about the coach. Clubs have to keep good coaches to keep the kids. Do we think UFA-N will field teams in SAPL for girls? Their website announced the SAPL coaches at UFA-N but they're all for boys. No mention of the girls. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 1, 2021 7:20:33 GMT -5
She is definitely going to Forsyth. It is indeed a huge loss for Norcross girls. Sergio one year and Renata the next. Ugh! Hopefully having SAPL will be a good thing and keep some girls at Norcross instead of jumping elsewhere. Hard for me to say though. In my mind, at the younger ages it is all about the coach. Clubs have to keep good coaches to keep the kids. Do we think UFA-N will field teams in SAPL for girls? Their website announced the SAPL coaches at UFA-N but they're all for boys. No mention of the girls. I don't know. Honestly they could just see what they have and choose which location has which team. But if ECRL is the Forsyth 2nd team then you either have to do 3rd team Forsyth in SAPL or Norcross. Most of the time the Norcross team is better than the Forsyth 3rd team but always depends on the age group. Plus right now there is no 05 girls team at Norcross so obviously not at that age group... |
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Post by mightydawg on May 1, 2021 10:21:00 GMT -5
What about UFA North Metro? Will they get a team here and there?
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 1, 2021 12:46:26 GMT -5
Do we think UFA-N will field teams in SAPL for girls? Their website announced the SAPL coaches at UFA-N but they're all for boys. No mention of the girls. I don't know. Honestly they could just see what they have and choose which location has which team. But if ECRL is the Forsyth 2nd team then you either have to do 3rd team Forsyth in SAPL or Norcross. Most of the time the Norcross team is better than the Forsyth 3rd team but always depends on the age group. Plus right now there is no 05 girls team at Norcross so obviously not at that age group... No SAPL/ NPL for girls at Norcross |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 2, 2021 0:10:32 GMT -5
I don't know. Honestly they could just see what they have and choose which location has which team. But if ECRL is the Forsyth 2nd team then you either have to do 3rd team Forsyth in SAPL or Norcross. Most of the time the Norcross team is better than the Forsyth 3rd team but always depends on the age group. Plus right now there is no 05 girls team at Norcross so obviously not at that age group... No SAPL/ NPL for girls at Norcross I think this effectively kills UFA-N and the talent that is left starts to bleed. Starting with the closest club to Norcross AFU. For those that went to the AFU ID Camp, did you notice a few UFA players on hand? Next will be the good coaches. Now I'm speaking specifically to the Girls Side of things... |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 2, 2021 6:17:16 GMT -5
No SAPL/ NPL for girls at Norcross I think this effectively kills UFA-N and the talent that is left starts to bleed. Starting with the closest club to Norcross AFU. For those that went to the AFU ID Camp, did you notice a few UFA players on hand? Next will be the good coaches. Now I'm speaking specifically to the Girls Side of things... There were a handful of 07's at AFU but didn't see any '08's. Also a handful of 06's, who were starting up as we left the 07/08 session. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 2, 2021 8:38:35 GMT -5
No SAPL/ NPL for girls at Norcross I think this effectively kills UFA-N and the talent that is left starts to bleed. Starting with the closest club to Norcross AFU. For those that went to the AFU ID Camp, did you notice a few UFA players on hand? Next will be the good coaches. Now I'm speaking specifically to the Girls Side of things... Well not all UFA girls that tryout at AFU are Norcross girls. Several years ago there was a mass exodus from the 05 UFA forsyth Premier team to AFU. There were many reasons behind it but it happened. There are three Forsyth girls that moved there last year. The pyramid that UFA put out actually looked like there would be no SAPL at all for girls. Don't know if that is legitimately their plan or if they are still mulling that over. I agree that Norcross will continue to bleed girls (talented and not as talented). The loss of Renata severely hurts their academy program. Unless they bring in someone awesome they are going to lose more players this year. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 3, 2021 8:39:54 GMT -5
I think this effectively kills UFA-N and the talent that is left starts to bleed. Starting with the closest club to Norcross AFU. For those that went to the AFU ID Camp, did you notice a few UFA players on hand? Next will be the good coaches. Now I'm speaking specifically to the Girls Side of things... Well not all UFA girls that tryout at AFU are Norcross girls. Several years ago there was a mass exodus from the 05 UFA forsyth Premier team to AFU. There were many reasons behind it but it happened. There are three Forsyth girls that moved there last year. The pyramid that UFA put out actually looked like there would be no SAPL at all for girls. Don't know if that is legitimately their plan or if they are still mulling that over. I agree that Norcross will continue to bleed girls (talented and not as talented). The loss of Renata severely hurts their academy program. Unless they bring in someone awesome they are going to lose more players this year. Norcross should have merged with AFU if it wasn’t for that worthless POS Hoover. |
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Post by soccerworld1974 on May 3, 2021 10:04:21 GMT -5
On a separate note, does anyone happen to know whom the 06 and 07 boys ecnl coaches will be at concorde? I know they never post their coaching list so figured I ask here to see if anyone was in the know.
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Post by mightydawg on May 3, 2021 10:12:18 GMT -5
On a separate note, does anyone happen to know whom the 06 and 07 boys ecnl coaches will be at concorde? I know they never post their coaching list so figured I ask here to see if anyone was in the know. Ken is taking over the platinum team at 2007. Current coach is staying with premier. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 3, 2021 12:00:10 GMT -5
No SAPL/ NPL for girls at Norcross I think this effectively kills UFA-N and the talent that is left starts to bleed. Starting with the closest club to Norcross AFU. For those that went to the AFU ID Camp, did you notice a few UFA players on hand? Next will be the good coaches. Now I'm speaking specifically to the Girls Side of things... Agree -- dishes are done. I'd done this -- pitch ecnl/ecnl regional league as a UFA thing and then give a sccl spot to each location. drop NPL  |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 3, 2021 16:13:19 GMT -5
I know it would be a pain for families with boys n girls, but I would have Forsyth focus on ECNL for Girls and have Norcross focus on ECNL for Boys. Have ECRL out of the South Forsyth location for both boys n girls and then you can locate the various SCCL Club/Premier locations across multiple locations based on strength of the teams. Or if that seems too complicated, have ECNL at South Forsyth for both boys n girls and have Forsyth focus on building the girls program and Norcross the boys program. Akin to how the TH portion of NTH is separate from the rest of NASA...
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 3, 2021 16:27:31 GMT -5
its all about perception -- make it "appear" to be a club program and for those willing to make the sacrifice etc. Perception can sometimes be more important than reality.....
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Post by mightydawg on May 3, 2021 16:33:28 GMT -5
its all about perception -- make it "appear" to be a club program and for those willing to make the sacrifice etc. Perception can sometimes be more important than reality..... I was thinking the same thing. Looking at the results on the girls side, pretty big disparity between older ECNL teams (doing well) and younger ECNL teams (not so well). U13 12th place; U14 9th place; U15 10th compared to U16 3rd; U17 2nd; u18/19 7th; Composite 2nd Boys side is 5th or better at every age group. |
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Post by diamondmid on May 4, 2021 13:12:51 GMT -5
On a separate note, does anyone happen to know whom the 06 and 07 boys ecnl coaches will be at concorde? I know they never post their coaching list so figured I ask here to see if anyone was in the know. Ken is taking over the platinum team at 2007. Current coach is staying with premier. What age group? Hearing something different to this. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 4, 2021 13:29:11 GMT -5
Ken is taking over the platinum team at 2007. Current coach is staying with premier. What age group? Hearing something different to this. The information that I was told on Saturday for 2007s (rising U15) is Ken would coach Platinum and Sukhi would be coaching Premier. Concorde is notorious for assignments changing. I have seen coaching assignments change from May development camp to tryouts, during tryouts, and on at least one occasion after the team was fully registered. What are you hearing? |
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Post by diamondmid on May 4, 2021 15:53:56 GMT -5
What age group? Hearing something different to this. The information that I was told on Saturday for 2007s (rising U15) is Ken would coach Platinum and Sukhi would be coaching Premier. Concorde is notorious for assignments changing. I have seen coaching assignments change from May development camp to tryouts, during tryouts, and on at least one occasion after the team was fully registered. What are you hearing? No names, heard the same with Ken and Platinum but that the current Premium coach would take an older team. |
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Post by ecnlquestions on May 4, 2021 16:09:43 GMT -5
What age group? Hearing something different to this. The information that I was told on Saturday for 2007s (rising U15) is Ken would coach Platinum and Sukhi would be coaching Premier. Concorde is notorious for assignments changing. I have seen coaching assignments change from May development camp to tryouts, during tryouts, and on at least one occasion after the team was fully registered. What are you hearing? How are the 07 parents feeling about this, are players looking for a move or happy with the coaching choice? |
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Post by anonymous1959 on May 4, 2021 16:30:15 GMT -5
I think this effectively kills UFA-N and the talent that is left starts to bleed. Starting with the closest club to Norcross AFU. For those that went to the AFU ID Camp, did you notice a few UFA players on hand? Next will be the good coaches. Now I'm speaking specifically to the Girls Side of things... Agree -- dishes are done. I'd done this -- pitch ecnl/ecnl regional league as a UFA thing and then give a sccl spot to each location. drop NPL |
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Post by anonymous1959 on May 4, 2021 16:31:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know Kyle? I hear he may be involved in the 07 or 08 boys group next year.
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