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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 11, 2021 19:04:32 GMT -5
What is the protocol for when a player on a team unfortunately comes down with Covid or is exposed to a close family member that comes down with Covid in regards to their team? Only asking because I'm hearing some teams at different clubs are already in quarantine process due to exposures. Please I lets dispense with the political rhetoric, just asking what teams, coaches or clubs are doing...
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 11, 2021 19:14:09 GMT -5
Typically just the player in question quarantines for 7-10 days, I haven't heard of an entire team at TH that's had to quarantine.
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Post by flamengo100 on Aug 11, 2021 20:27:44 GMT -5
Not sure about now but late last spring our entire team had to quarantine for at least 7 days. each player had to confirm they had no symptoms over the 7 day period and show proof of a negative covid test taken after at least 3 days after the covid exposure. the only exception was if someone had been vaccinated or had covid within 3 months. i believe we were following fulton county schools guidelines. I don't know what the protocols will be now.
This is from the SSA Classic Tournament
SCHEDULE ADJUSTMENTS DUE TO COVID-19 TEAM WITHDRAWALS: We are receiving emails from registered teams on a daily basis informing us that they have team members that are having to quarantine due to a Covid-19 positive test and/or Covid-19 close contact. Given how close we are to the event itself, we are past the point unfortunately where we can make significant changes to divisions in such a way whereby we can still guarantee a usual 3 or 4 game schedule for teams in the affected divisions where a team has to withdraw as a consequence. As such, if a team has to withdraw from a division, it's likely that we will have to cancel the team's games and look to issue a partial refund for the other teams in the division. If your division is affected in this way, we will update you accordingly.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 11, 2021 20:42:55 GMT -5
AFU shut our entire ECNL team down for 7 days due to a player and his mom getting Covid. Neither were vaccinated. Heard Steamers and Rush are following CDC guidelines so only the player Quarantines if unvaccinated and comes into close contact with someone that tested positive. Vaccinated players only need to Quarantine if they show symptoms. www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.html |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 11, 2021 20:51:24 GMT -5
I imagine things will be different this year than last and could change yet again. Last year the whole team had to quarantine for any player testing positive. I think with many older teams having vaccinated kids/parents and with newer CDC info it will be different. I would guess the younger teams with no vaccinated kids possible it could be different by age group.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 11, 2021 21:06:10 GMT -5
I imagine things will be different this year than last and could change yet again. Last year the whole team had to quarantine for any player testing positive. I think with many older teams having vaccinated kids/parents and with newer CDC info it will be different. I would guess the younger teams with no vaccinated kids possible it could be different by age group. Exactly. Luckily most of it says close contact to someone testing positive. So being outside at practice wouldn't be included, except for say U11 boys who are wrestling on the field while coach is on his cell phone. Haha |
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Post by Shesakeeper on Aug 11, 2021 21:18:12 GMT -5
We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it.
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Post by roki12 on Aug 11, 2021 21:46:11 GMT -5
What is the protocol for when a player on a team unfortunately comes down with Covid or is exposed to a close family member that comes down with Covid in regards to their team? Only asking because I'm hearing some teams at different clubs are already in quarantine process due to exposures. Please I lets dispense with the political rhetoric, just asking what teams, coaches or clubs are doing... Hopefully they are taking it more seriously this year. Our experiences last year was don’t ask, don’t tell. We had several players that we knew had Covid and disappeared without saying anything. Others we knew that were supposed to be on quarantine due to school but still attended club practice. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 11, 2021 21:49:32 GMT -5
We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it. It's going to be interesting to see how this affects teams and their regular season. I currently have heard of 5 teams at 3 different clubs who are in full-on quarantine - at least officially from club practice and activities... |
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Post by hotspur1 on Aug 12, 2021 5:45:39 GMT -5
My daughters team (college) if you are vaccinated you are fine unless you have symptoms. Then test. Only quarantine if positive.
If unvaccinated but not deemed close contact with infected person, test only with symptoms. If unvaccinated and close contact, test and quarantine until negative result.
(However throughout the season unvaccinated players will be tested weekly and will be subject to additional periodic random tests. It was brutal for my daughter last year)
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Post by 0507coop23dad on Aug 12, 2021 6:37:32 GMT -5
It’s going to hit the fan when the weekend trips start happening and there’s no escape from the spreadnecks.
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Post by justwatching on Aug 12, 2021 7:40:30 GMT -5
We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it. What club are you with? It seems a lot of organizations and teams are following if vaccinated and no symptoms no quarantine. Your club's rules seem pretty harsh. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 12, 2021 7:51:13 GMT -5
We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it. What club are you with? It seems a lot of organizations and teams are following if vaccinated and no symptoms no quarantine. Your club's rules seem pretty harsh. Agreed. And there have been studies done that show that outdoor sports are incredibly low risk for Covid exposure if one of the players has it. And that was for all unvaccinated players. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 12, 2021 8:21:19 GMT -5
What is the protocol for when a player on a team unfortunately comes down with Covid or is exposed to a close family member that comes down with Covid in regards to their team? Only asking because I'm hearing some teams at different clubs are already in quarantine process due to exposures. Please I lets dispense with the political rhetoric, just asking what teams, coaches or clubs are doing... There is no quarantine for the team if a 3rd party is involved. What I mean is the only way a team needs to quarantine is if a team member or coach on the team that has been around the kids in the last 3-5 days (6 feet 15 mins) tests positive for covid. If a person on the team was exposed by a family member or somewhere else only that kid needs to quarantine. Now subsequently that kid or coach should go ahead and get a covid test so that if it is negative, the team knows that he didn't have it the last contact that person had with the team and they are good to go. If the kid does get a positive test within 3-5 days of being around the team then and only then would the whole team need to quarantine. All of that above is for unvaccinated people. If the whole team and coach are vaccinated then there is not supposed to be any quarantining at all, but with so few kids actually vaccinated I doubt that would actually be the case for most teams. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 12, 2021 9:25:40 GMT -5
We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it. Curious how you knew "most of her team is vaccinated" ?? |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 12, 2021 9:39:33 GMT -5
From my understanding, the GSA 07 girls ECNL team is under quarantine and will not be attending the CESA Friendlies.
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Post by nole95 on Aug 12, 2021 10:05:10 GMT -5
We had a kid last year whose mom tested positive. She just had to quarantine, but the entire team did not. I assume it is the same this year.
The way I see it, these kids are outdoors. Even if a player tested positive, I do not think the whole team should have to quarantine. I would not even keep my daughter at home if she was in contact outdoors with someone who tested positive.
The schools in our county are not even quarantining close contacts at the moment, and that's in an indoor setting.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 12, 2021 11:06:07 GMT -5
We had a kid last year whose mom tested positive. She just had to quarantine, but the entire team did not. I assume it is the same this year. The way I see it, these kids are outdoors. Even if a player tested positive, I do not think the whole team should have to quarantine. I would not even keep my daughter at home if she was in contact outdoors with someone who tested positive. The schools in our county are not even quarantining close contacts at the moment, and that's in an indoor setting. I agree with this. I was just stating what the CDC says you should do. Not to get political but half the time I don't think they know what you should be doing they change it so much. I know of an incident on my son's team last year when the schools were being strict on close contacts and making people quarantine. The parent was chatting with me about his kid having to quarantine, but it was like a Monday. I just told him if I was him I would just go get him a covid test on Friday afternoon and if negative I don't see why there would be an issue with him playing with the team that weekend as it would have been 4-6 days past the exposure. The kid got one, was negative and played with us and he never got covid. |
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Post by Keeper on Aug 12, 2021 11:45:07 GMT -5
We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it. Curious how you knew "most of her team is vaccinated" ?? Most colleges have held vaccine drives so if the whole or most of the team got the shot from the school then there’s that. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Aug 12, 2021 11:48:12 GMT -5
The problem with all the vaccinated v. unvaccinated is it completely ignores the immunity provided by antibodies after you have Covid. An experimental genetic therapy (mRNA is not a vaccine, but a therapy) isn't the only way to gain immunity. Not sure of your status? Give blood every 8 weeks, get a free antibody test.
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Post by mamadona on Aug 12, 2021 12:43:14 GMT -5
Ugh. I take covid seriously but outdoors is low risk. I'm not sure what our club's policy is. I hope the whole team won't have to quarantine if someone gets it. The players are too young to be vaccinated, hopefully soon.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 12, 2021 12:50:41 GMT -5
The problem with all the vaccinated v. unvaccinated is it completely ignores the immunity provided by antibodies after you have Covid. An experimental genetic therapy (mRNA is not a vaccine, but a therapy) isn't the only way to gain immunity. Not sure of your status? Give blood every 8 weeks, get a free antibody test. Oh I'm all on this. The Federal Government and CDC refuse to even acknowledge natural immunity from recovering from Covid as just as good if not better than the vaccine. My whole family have antibodies, and I had been checking my antibodies every few months. We pinpoint to all of us getting it sometime October-November of last year. None of us had symptoms, but we all test positive for the antibodies now and still do even 6+ months since we had it. Before you all post a couple of the mainstream media experts and articles saying what I said above is not true, I have read 5 different peer-reviewed medical journal studies that show natural immunity from having covid antibody wise is as good or even better in some of the studies than the vaccine immunity. As of now the CDC will only publicly talk about the one Kentucky study that showed that to not be the case which is funny since that is the only study that actually confirms their bias. I feel like they are being political with which science is talked about and which science is being ignored when its all relevant and unbiased scientists will actually admit as much as well. So the way I see it. I will take the 5 peer reviewed journals that show my point versus the 1 that doesn't just because there are more studies that say one thing is true versus the other. Only time will tell ultimately when more studies are done and reported on, but right now I am going to go what the majority of the science says and that is that natural immunity is as good or better than the vaccine. Until our family's antibodies go away none of us are getting the vaccine, as it would be redundant and serves no purpose since we are just as immune to covid as a vaccinated person is. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 12, 2021 12:51:53 GMT -5
Curious how you knew "most of her team is vaccinated" ?? Most colleges have held vaccine drives so if the whole or most of the team got the shot from the school then there’s that. Ahhhh... college soccer. That makes more sense. I thought you were talking club soccer. I was just curious. Thanks! |
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Post by Shesakeeper on Aug 12, 2021 13:19:01 GMT -5
This is AFU. According to my 16 yo, "most of them were vaccinated", so not confirmed on that, lol. I had hoped the ones that were could at least practice but I guess I should just be happy it's 7 days and not 14 like last year. It sucks missing CESA though, she's bummed. We are in quarantine currently for 7 days and missing the cesa friendlies because of it. Most of her team is vaccinated but one that wasn't got it. What club are you with? It seems a lot of organizations and teams are following if vaccinated and no symptoms no quarantine. Your club's rules seem pretty harsh. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 12, 2021 13:37:20 GMT -5
This is AFU. According to my 16 yo, "most of them were vaccinated", so not confirmed on that, lol. I had hoped the ones that were could at least practice but I guess I should just be happy it's 7 days and not 14 like last year. It sucks missing CESA though, she's bummed. What club are you with? It seems a lot of organizations and teams are following if vaccinated and no symptoms no quarantine. Your club's rules seem pretty harsh. We just joined AFU. I'm a little surprised at their decision, given that the current CDC guidance says that if you come into contact with a person who tests positive but you are fully vaccinated, you don't need to quarantine unless you have symptoms: www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.html |
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Post by Keeper on Aug 12, 2021 14:30:00 GMT -5
This is AFU. According to my 16 yo, "most of them were vaccinated", so not confirmed on that, lol. I had hoped the ones that were could at least practice but I guess I should just be happy it's 7 days and not 14 like last year. It sucks missing CESA though, she's bummed. What club are you with? It seems a lot of organizations and teams are following if vaccinated and no symptoms no quarantine. Your club's rules seem pretty harsh. Yeah they sat out 08s boys last week for that and we missed Concorde. Not sure the logic but at least it sounds consistent. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 12, 2021 14:52:05 GMT -5
This is AFU. According to my 16 yo, "most of them were vaccinated", so not confirmed on that, lol. I had hoped the ones that were could at least practice but I guess I should just be happy it's 7 days and not 14 like last year. It sucks missing CESA though, she's bummed. Yeah they sat out 08s boys last week for that and we missed Concorde. Not sure the logic but at least it sounds consistent. I'm going to be completely honest. I would just handle it per the CDC guidelines as a familiy, and if that means there is no need for the team to quarantine due to it being a 3rd party issue then there is no point in even telling the coach or team. Tell them your child isn't feeling well, and you hope they get better soon, and then to verify go get a covid test on like day 4-5 and if they don't have it, then go train and play with the team. It seems some people are going way overboard with the quarantining or they aren't reading the guidelines right, so its best when that situation is occurring use your common sense and the CDC guidelines and just don't tell the people that are going way overboard unless your kid actually tests positive. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Aug 12, 2021 15:26:26 GMT -5
common sense and the CDC guidelines = often incongruent
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Post by reading1soccer on Aug 12, 2021 20:39:13 GMT -5
This is AFU. According to my 16 yo, "most of them were vaccinated", so not confirmed on that, lol. I had hoped the ones that were could at least practice but I guess I should just be happy it's 7 days and not 14 like last year. It sucks missing CESA though, she's bummed. We just joined AFU. I'm a little surprised at their decision, given that the current CDC guidance says that if you come into contact with a person who tests positive but you are fully vaccinated, you don't need to quarantine unless you have symptoms: www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.htmlThis no different than what Cobb schools are doing. Contact tracing is no longer a thing. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Aug 13, 2021 6:25:56 GMT -5
FWIW I spoke to AFU about it, ultimately if I read between the lines it's about not knowing who is vaccinated vs who isn't(And not wanting to ask due to the politics over it) and the rise in cases in Gwinnett schools. It does sound like they didn't take the decision lightly and have consulted with hospital and CDC specialists in making the decision. Honestly we all know this is a difficult decision to make, especially with how polarizing the topic is (masks, vaccinate) they are erring on the side of caution. I know I certainly don't want to argue about vaccinations with anyone, but if people are choosing not to get vaccinated then this is just going to be a side effect of that for the foreseeable future where businesses just don't want to be part of the spread of the virus.
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