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Mike C
Oct 31, 2021 16:34:56 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 31, 2021 16:34:56 GMT -5
Is it true that the 03/04 Navy GA team switched coaches? Yes. |
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Mike C
Nov 1, 2021 6:32:45 GMT -5
Post by interestedspectator on Nov 1, 2021 6:32:45 GMT -5
What was the reason?
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03fk
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Mike C
Nov 2, 2021 13:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by 03fk on Nov 2, 2021 13:51:20 GMT -5
I know it couldn’t be because of his great personality and the way he treats the girls. So surprised that this happened
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 2, 2021 16:38:09 GMT -5
As mentioned earlier there was one person who quit that team. The way she was treated appalled a number of the parents and players. There were a few others threatening to quit. Interestingly I heard that he also drove several little kids to quit playing soccer from the Milton location the year before last. What surprises me the most is just how many people have been saying how awfully he treats the kids and I never heard a peep about any of this until this past summer. I have been wondering if people are getting more bold at complaining about coaches that they think cross the line into abusive behavior. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Nov 2, 2021 19:40:32 GMT -5
As mentioned earlier there was one person who quit that team. The way she was treated appalled a number of the parents and players. There were a few others threatening to quit. Interestingly I heard that he also drove several little kids to quit playing soccer from the Milton location the year before last. What surprises me the most is just how many people have been saying how awfully he treats the kids and I never heard a peep about any of this until this past summer. I have been wondering if people are getting more bold at complaining about coaches that they think cross the line into abusive behavior. Or…people have gotten softer and baby their kids more than ever therefore making more things not acceptable. |
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Post by roki12 on Nov 2, 2021 19:51:44 GMT -5
Cancel culture.
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Mike C
Nov 2, 2021 20:04:08 GMT -5
Post by toobusy4this on Nov 2, 2021 20:04:08 GMT -5
As mentioned earlier there was one person who quit that team. The way she was treated appalled a number of the parents and players. There were a few others threatening to quit. Interestingly I heard that he also drove several little kids to quit playing soccer from the Milton location the year before last. What surprises me the most is just how many people have been saying how awfully he treats the kids and I never heard a peep about any of this until this past summer. I have been wondering if people are getting more bold at complaining about coaches that they think cross the line into abusive behavior. Or…people have gotten softer and baby their kids more than ever therefore making more things not acceptable. |
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Post by toobusy4this on Nov 2, 2021 20:14:24 GMT -5
Or maybe people have started to recognize verbal abuse and recognize that repeatedly calling players losers with no character isn't coaching and crosses a line. Maybe with seniors and juniors parents aren't afraid that talking to the director won't impact future club or soccer play. Not everything is soft or cancel culture. Perhaps, enough is enough.
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Post by rifle on Nov 2, 2021 20:17:18 GMT -5
..or reaping what you sow? |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 2, 2021 20:41:37 GMT -5
Or maybe people have started to recognize verbal abuse and recognize that repeatedly calling players losers with no character isn't coaching and crosses a line. Maybe with seniors and juniors parents aren't afraid that talking to the director won't impact future club or soccer play. Not everything is soft or cancel culture. Perhaps, enough is enough. Most of the players on the team were/are not committed so are vulnerable to having their soccer careers affected. I agree that things I have heard that were said are worthy of being removed from the team. Besides the older team making little kids quit the game is bad for the soccer community and growth of the sport. To the people who say people are soft now, that is total BS. Having spent years in a career where verbal abuse was expected during our training years I can totally say that it is not appropriate to degrade, humiliate, or attack the character of minors (or adults either). Surgeons used to be able to scream at nurses and techs and trainees without repercussions and that is no longer permitted (people get fired for that stuff now) so why should little kids and teens have to listen to the same crap! Oh and let's add that mental health is becoming more accepted as something that people can talk about, so people now know how verbal abuse and bullying affect people, especially teens and little kids. |
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Post by grasshopper on Nov 2, 2021 21:00:43 GMT -5
One thing that I thinks is sometimes lost in this discussion (and not saying the coach in question on this thread is not an a$# as we have had a run in or two with him as well years ago) but there is a line between being hard and holding players accountable and being an a$#. We have had one coach in particular that some folks think is yelling and too tough on the kids, but if you actually listen to how he goes about it, it is never personnel, never derogatory and always has a soccer purpose to his yelling. My daughter thrived with his style and would still run through a brickwall for him, but as I have said I have known a number of kids and parents who have no respect for him because if nothing else he holds them accountable. I totally agree with you. This thread has been here and every time an entitled parent and child get called out - they bring back this topic under the concealment of "concern and abuse." What other coach raises parents for sick parents? parents losing their jobs? I will wait... but NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE A FAIR DEBATE. We have a bunch of keyboard gangsters on this forum but losers in real life. As a soccer parent - I am sick of this nonsense. We have a good coach who gives two shizats about the players he coaches and a bunch of entitled, whiny, and undisciplined parents who CAN'T STAND SOMEONE WHO HOLD THEIR KIDS ACCOUNTABLE. IS HE SUPPOSED TO BE SORRY FOR HAVING STANDARDS Y'ALL DON'T HAVE? DO YOU WANT YOUR KID TO GET BROWNIE POINTS FOR SHOWING UP AND HALF ASSING THEIR WORK WHEN THE REST OF THE TEAM IS BUSTING THEIR BUTT AS A TEAMPLAYER? I am thankful for Coach Mike and it sucks to see HIM CONSTANTLY BULLIED AND BELITTLED by the same parents who complain about this type of behavior towards their children....BUNCH OF ENTITLED, SNOWFLAKES, & HYPOCRITES. If you don't want your kids to be held accountable GO PLAY REC AND STOP RUINING IT FOR THE REST OF US WHO APPRECIATE A COACH THAT HAS STANDARDS. US SOCCER PARENTS ALSO KNOW WHO IS STARTING THESE THREADS - WE HEAR THE TALK ON THE SIDELINES SO UNLESS YOU ALL WANT TO BE EXPOSED - CUT OUT THE shizat AND SIGN THE RELEASED YOU WERE OFFERED AND LET THE REST OF US WHO WANT TO PLAY - PLAY. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND SO DO WE. MIKE HAS HATERS BUT HE ALSO HAS PEOPLE WHO HAVE HIS BACK - SO DO Y'ALL WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME? |
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Post by grasshopper on Nov 2, 2021 21:05:20 GMT -5
..or reaping what you sow? rifle HELLO SNOWFLAKE - THIS IS CALLED BULLYING AND CANCEL CULTURE. If by reaping what you sow you mean a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND MYRIAD OF TOP PLAYERS? THEN YES. |
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Post by grasshopper on Nov 2, 2021 21:28:32 GMT -5
Or maybe people have started to recognize verbal abuse and recognize that repeatedly calling players losers with no character isn't coaching and crosses a line. Maybe with seniors and juniors parents aren't afraid that talking to the director won't impact future club or soccer play. Not everything is soft or cancel culture. Perhaps, enough is enough. ain't too busy to be gossiping on a forum, huh? lol CHARACTER IS A PART OF PLAYING SOCCER. THEREFORE, IT IS A RELEVANT TOPIC AND SUBJECT OF COACHING. Instead of bashing a coach doing your job as a parent...go read some parenting books on how to raise a kid with character ready for real life and not the safe bubble you've created... |
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Post by toobusy4this on Nov 2, 2021 21:37:46 GMT -5
Or maybe people have started to recognize verbal abuse and recognize that repeatedly calling players losers with no character isn't coaching and crosses a line. Maybe with seniors and juniors parents aren't afraid that talking to the director won't impact future club or soccer play. Not everything is soft or cancel culture. Perhaps, enough is enough. ain't too busy to be gossiping on a forum, huh? lol CHARACTER IS A PART OF PLAYING SOCCER. THEREFORE, IT IS A RELEVANT TOPIC AND SUBJECT OF COACHING. Instead of bashing a coach doing your job as a parent...go read some parenting books on how to raise a kid with character ready for real life and not the safe bubble you've created... |
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Mike C
Nov 2, 2021 21:38:48 GMT -5
Post by toobusy4this on Nov 2, 2021 21:38:48 GMT -5
Or maybe people have started to recognize verbal abuse and recognize that repeatedly calling players losers with no character isn't coaching and crosses a line. Maybe with seniors and juniors parents aren't afraid that talking to the director won't impact future club or soccer play. Not everything is soft or cancel culture. Perhaps, enough is enough. ain't too busy to be gossiping on a forum, huh? lol CHARACTER IS A PART OF PLAYING SOCCER. THEREFORE, IT IS A RELEVANT TOPIC AND SUBJECT OF COACHING. Instead of bashing a coach doing your job as a parent...go read some parenting books on how to raise a kid with character ready for real life and not the safe bubble you've created... Ok, grasshopper. |
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Post by rifle on Nov 2, 2021 21:42:28 GMT -5
..or reaping what you sow? rifle HELLO SNOWFLAKE - THIS IS CALLED BULLYING AND CANCEL CULTURE. If by reaping what you sow you mean a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND MYRIAD OF PLAYERS ON THE NATIONAL TEAM? THEN YES. LOL.… and yes he clearly has many accomplishments. |
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Post by toobusy4this on Nov 2, 2021 21:59:41 GMT -5
toobusy4this ain't too busy to be gossiping on a forum, huh? lol CHARACTER IS A PART OF PLAYING SOCCER. THEREFORE, IT IS A RELEVANT TOPIC AND SUBJECT OF COACHING. Instead of bashing a coach doing your job as a parent...go read some parenting books on how to raise a kid with character ready for real life and not the safe bubble you've created... Ok, grasshopper. Seriously, any book recommendations? This thread is helping me be calm about the Braves. |
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Post by roki12 on Nov 2, 2021 22:02:42 GMT -5
..or reaping what you sow? I’m certain if anyone looks at their own club they will find coaches who are both better or worse than him in terms of relationships with players/parents, yelling, belittling, and the other things he is being accused of. With all the clubs/teams/Age groups in the area and proportionally how much he comes up in this forum - it seems to be a calculated attack. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 2, 2021 22:21:21 GMT -5
What is a shame is that with just a little due diligence most parents can figure out whether a coach is going to be a good or bad fit for their child. Especially for the older age groups. You need to ask questions of parents who have been through this, find coaches who may not be coaching you age you can trust and go and watch either practices or games before tryouts and you will see how they are generally. In general I would agree with this statement but I have seen a few scenarios where coaches change the way they interact with certain players or even a whole team. Maybe they get burned out on that team or player or maybe they just stop liking the player or team. This has happened to my kids before. Coaches that are a good fit one year and then the next start doing things that you think are wrong. For this coach I have never personally seen an event that was abusive but when the parents of players who have not been personally insulted are super upset by what they have seen and heard on other players' behalves that is worrisome. The GA came out with a strong statement about not permitting abuse, including verbal abuse. All clubs need to be concerned about liability too. Look at NWSL and NHL in the last several weeks. If you know and don't investigate and do something you could be in a world of trouble |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 2, 2021 22:25:07 GMT -5
..or reaping what you sow? I’m certain if anyone looks at their own club they will find coaches who are both better or worse than him in terms of relationships with players/parents, yelling, belittling, and the other things he is being accused of. With all the clubs/teams/Age groups in the area and proportionally how much he comes up in this forum - it seems to be a calculated attack. Can't comment on the calculated attack part but I hope that more people comment on those they find concerning at their own clubs or other clubs. I have not had a coach for my kid that I thought was abusive though there have been a few incidents where comments have been out of line. One or two in a season is probably doable especially if there is enough good to counteract the bad. Persistent comments and I would not stay and would call attention to it. |
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Mike C
Nov 3, 2021 5:14:33 GMT -5
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Post by rifle on Nov 3, 2021 5:14:33 GMT -5
..or reaping what you sow? I’m certain if anyone looks at their own club they will find coaches who are both better or worse than him in terms of relationships with players/parents, yelling, belittling, and the other things he is being accused of. With all the clubs/teams/Age groups in the area and proportionally how much he comes up in this forum - it seems to be a calculated attack. Certainly possible. I have no idea who he is but I agree it would be unfortunate if this is all sour grapes. |
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Mike C
Nov 3, 2021 8:02:27 GMT -5
Post by turfburns on Nov 3, 2021 8:02:27 GMT -5
Wow just wow. And we wonder why we are losing good coaches? This right here! Two of my kids have had Coach Mike and he is by far the best coach they both have had to date. He is tough but always fair. If your kid gives 100%, they will never have a problem with him- period. Sounds like some players were on a team that was above their ability and mindset. I am most surprised that u18/u19 player/s, had to have parents come in and have a coach removed with the season almost done because he questioned someone’s character?! That seems amazingly soft and sheltered for players going off of their own in the next year. Coach Mike has supporters because he demands the best from his players and that is something every parent should want. I think this is sour grapes and I think keyboard warriors are getting more courage to push their own agenda. Sad. In my opinion, Coach Mike should be coaching the top team- not 2nd teams, where players and parents seem to have a different mindset and expectations of commitment and development.
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Post by oldhat on Nov 3, 2021 8:30:04 GMT -5
Tell me which one of these things is ok:
A player just commits to play in college. A coach sees player and says unsarcastically, I can't believe you signed with someone.
A player has a bad game. Player is separated from the rest of the team to practice on their own during most of practice.
Telling a 13 year old girl they are lazy and need to lose weight.
Having multiple players refuse to play on a team and instead choosing to play on a lower team because players/parents have zero respect for the coach.
Talking on the sideline during a match where bench players can hear. Saying one player sucks. This player is awful and etc. Saying he should have taken different players at try-outs.
Talking to some players and making them believe they made a team at the end of try-outs. Then never calling them yourself to tell them you decided to choose someone else.
Some parents/players have had a good relationship with a coach. Some have had an awful time. Would you want your daughter spending time with someone you knew treated other girls poorly?
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Post by turfburns on Nov 3, 2021 9:34:00 GMT -5
Tell me which one of these things is ok: A player just commits to play in college. A coach sees player and says unsarcastically, I can't believe you signed with someone. A player has a bad game. Player is separated from the rest of the team to practice on their own during most of practice. Telling a 13 year old girl they are lazy and need to lose weight. Having multiple players refuse to play on a team and instead choosing to play on a lower team because players/parents have zero respect for the coach. Talking on the sideline during a match where bench players can hear. Saying one player sucks. This player is awful and etc. Saying he should have taken different players at try-outs. Talking to some players and making them believe they made a team at the end of try-outs. Then never calling them yourself to tell them you decided to choose someone else. Some parents/players have had a good relationship with a coach. Some have had an awful time. Would you want your daughter spending time with someone you knew treated other girls poorly? Do I think any of the those things are good? Of course not! But I also recognize that life is not butterflies and rainbows! Not every coach, teacher, boss will like you, or see your value, but does that mean you quit or get them fired? No. Use it as a motivation! Prove yourself on the field. It is not always pretty or all positive, but it is part of being successful in life. I also don’t think saying someone sucks during the game means much either. Both of my kids have heard much worse from various coaches about players on their team while on the bench. Have you heard the top team benches? It is cut throat and the players pay zero attention. Mindset matters and I guess that is where the difference is- his players that thrive and the ones that don’t. And in regards to tryouts and players thinking they made the team, how about just asking? In all the years I have been in youth soccer, I have yet to find a club or coach with decent communication. Again, the attacks seems targeted and from a small group with an agenda. |
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Mike C
Nov 3, 2021 9:45:48 GMT -5
Post by fanatic21 on Nov 3, 2021 9:45:48 GMT -5
Tell me which one of these things is ok: A player just commits to play in college. A coach sees player and says unsarcastically, I can't believe you signed with someone. A player has a bad game. Player is separated from the rest of the team to practice on their own during most of practice. Telling a 13 year old girl they are lazy and need to lose weight. Having multiple players refuse to play on a team and instead choosing to play on a lower team because players/parents have zero respect for the coach. Talking on the sideline during a match where bench players can hear. Saying one player sucks. This player is awful and etc. Saying he should have taken different players at try-outs. Talking to some players and making them believe they made a team at the end of try-outs. Then never calling them yourself to tell them you decided to choose someone else. Some parents/players have had a good relationship with a coach. Some have had an awful time. Would you want your daughter spending time with someone you knew treated other girls poorly? Do I think any of the those things are good? Of course not! But I also recognize that life is not butterflies and rainbows! Not every coach, teacher, boss will like you, or see your value, but does that mean you quit or get them fired? No. Use it as a motivation! Prove yourself on the field. It is not always pretty or all positive, but it is part of being successful in life. I also don’t think saying someone sucks during the game means much either. Both of my kids have heard much worse from various coaches about players on their team while on the bench. Have you heard the top team benches? It is cut throat and the players pay zero attention. Mindset matters and I guess that is where the difference is- his players that thrive and the ones that don’t. And in regards to tryouts and players thinking they made the team, how about just asking? In all the years I have been in youth soccer, I have yet to find a club or coach with decent communication. Again, the attacks seems targeted and from a small group with an agenda. Turfburns, you honetsly don't think a coach should be fired for saying/doing these sorts of things to players? I don't know anything about this situation, but if those accusations are true, he 100% should be fired. |
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Post by flix on Nov 3, 2021 9:56:11 GMT -5
Tell me which one of these things is ok: A player just commits to play in college. A coach sees player and says unsarcastically, I can't believe you signed with someone. A player has a bad game. Player is separated from the rest of the team to practice on their own during most of practice. Telling a 13 year old girl they are lazy and need to lose weight. Having multiple players refuse to play on a team and instead choosing to play on a lower team because players/parents have zero respect for the coach. Talking on the sideline during a match where bench players can hear. Saying one player sucks. This player is awful and etc. Saying he should have taken different players at try-outs. Talking to some players and making them believe they made a team at the end of try-outs. Then never calling them yourself to tell them you decided to choose someone else. Some parents/players have had a good relationship with a coach. Some have had an awful time. Would you want your daughter spending time with someone you knew treated other girls poorly? You definitely don’t want to play at Atlanta United. I could see 4/6 of those examples being heard over there. Some people things like that roll off their back while others it really bothers them. |
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Post by turfburns on Nov 3, 2021 10:03:07 GMT -5
I have no idea what things happened. And as I said, I do not think any of the above are appropriate, but I think almost every coach would be fired if we base it off a coach saying a player sucks during the game. I have had him for 2 kids and not had that experience with him. There are always 3 sides to every story. Player/parent, coach and then the truth.
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Mike C
Nov 3, 2021 10:24:26 GMT -5
Post by grasshopper on Nov 3, 2021 10:24:26 GMT -5
Do I think any of the those things are good? Of course not! But I also recognize that life is not butterflies and rainbows! Not every coach, teacher, boss will like you, or see your value, but does that mean you quit or get them fired? No. Use it as a motivation! Prove yourself on the field. It is not always pretty or all positive, but it is part of being successful in life. I also don’t think saying someone sucks during the game means much either. Both of my kids have heard much worse from various coaches about players on their team while on the bench. Have you heard the top team benches? It is cut throat and the players pay zero attention. Mindset matters and I guess that is where the difference is- his players that thrive and the ones that don’t. And in regards to tryouts and players thinking they made the team, how about just asking? In all the years I have been in youth soccer, I have yet to find a club or coach with decent communication. Again, the attacks seems targeted and from a small group with an agenda. Turfburns, you honetsly don't think a coach should be fired for saying/doing these sorts of things to players? I don't know anything about this situation, but if those accusations are true, he 100% should be fired. fanatic21 - if you don't know anything about the situation,, why are you commenting and validating a side of the story without hearing the other? This is exactly my problem with this forum. A bunch of parents without knowledge about a situation - speaking on it. Find a hobby please. |
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Post by grasshopper on Nov 3, 2021 10:30:14 GMT -5
Tell me which one of these things is ok: A player just commits to play in college. A coach sees player and says unsarcastically, I can't believe you signed with someone. A player has a bad game. Player is separated from the rest of the team to practice on their own during most of practice. Telling a 13 year old girl they are lazy and need to lose weight. Having multiple players refuse to play on a team and instead choosing to play on a lower team because players/parents have zero respect for the coach. Talking on the sideline during a match where bench players can hear. Saying one player sucks. This player is awful and etc. Saying he should have taken different players at try-outs. Talking to some players and making them believe they made a team at the end of try-outs. Then never calling them yourself to tell them you decided to choose someone else. Some parents/players have had a good relationship with a coach. Some have had an awful time. Would you want your daughter spending time with someone you knew treated other girls poorly? You definitely don’t want to play at Atlanta United. I could see 4/6 of those examples being heard over there. Some people things like that roll off their back while others it really bothers them. flix - you are a breath of fresh air. Most of these parents like oldhat want their kids to play soccer at a competitive level and get mad if a player gets called out about their weight? Go join the spelling bee, science fairs, and book club where weight doesn't matter. IF YOU ARE AN ATHLETE, WEIGHT MATTERS. I don't know how that's not common sense. Perhaps do your job as a parents and feed your child healthy food instead of wasting time gossiping on a forum. Second, all the other stuff about he said this, he said that - how do we know it's not made up? Are we supposed to take your word at face value oldhat? Lol My experience has been completely different. Coach Mike is always trying to get his kids signed up with colleges, he actively recruits players for college and abroad. But I suppose we are supposed to believe what an old hat says on this forum.... |
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Post by grasshopper on Nov 3, 2021 10:34:44 GMT -5
I know it couldn’t be because of his great personality and the way he treats the girls. So surprised that this happened Lol since you don't have any facts - let me give them to you. 03fk oraclesfriend a very sensitive and insecure mom is projecting all of her insecurities onto her child. As a consequence, she is actively campaigning and bringing back this thread to get Coach Mike fired. She is talking to parents, directors, and even myself trashing Coach Mike because she is sensitive and thinks her daughter should be held accountable to REC LEVELS AND NOT THE "TOUGH" STANDARD AT ONE OF THE BEST CLUBS IN THE NATION. What a shame. These are the parents who raise snowflakes and have to buy buildings for their kids to get into college....because they were never taught hard-work, discipline, and accountability. But sure, blame it on the Coach's personality to feel better about your lack of self-accountability. I hope this answers your question. These are facts - not some made up bs. interestedspectator unitedmom |
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