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Post by futbolmama on Jan 27, 2022 21:34:29 GMT -5
How are the high schools divided into “classes”? Such as 4A,5A,6A
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Post by defendingmygoal on Jan 28, 2022 7:36:44 GMT -5
Its based on school population size. But sometimes if private schools are dominating a low classification they get moved up even with a small enrollment number
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 28, 2022 7:40:19 GMT -5
Generally speaking they're divided by enrollment. They (GHSA) will increase the enrollment figure for private schools for the # of students outside the school's area. Also do this for city schools that accept students outside of their district. I don't know the exact rules of how they calculate enrollment in those situations, but I know it changed recently and there will be a big realignment of schools/classes next school year.
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Jan 28, 2022 8:13:02 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jan 28, 2022 8:14:33 GMT -5
Generally speaking they're divided by enrollment. They (GHSA) will increase the enrollment figure for private schools for the # of students outside the school's area. Also do this for city schools that accept students outside of their district. I don't know the exact rules of how they calculate enrollment in those situations, but I know it changed recently and there will be a big realignment of schools/classes next school year. Geographic regions can get together as well with the blessings of GHSA. About 10 years ago, many of the Columbus area schools decided to be 5A so they would not have to travel that far for regular season games (it was a bus/money issue). |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jan 28, 2022 8:50:13 GMT -5
One important thing to keep in mind is classifications are not just for soccer. Typically all sports at a school participate in the same classification. So, a 6A school would have all sports in 6A, no matter how competitive they are in any given sport.
In other words, a good football team doesn't get moved up while all other teams remain in a lower classification.
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 28, 2022 9:19:43 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 28, 2022 9:24:01 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 28, 2022 9:32:35 GMT -5
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Post by ball2futbol on Jan 28, 2022 14:39:56 GMT -5
AD at St Pius can’t be too happy about this realignment!
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 28, 2022 15:19:48 GMT -5
AD at St Pius can’t be too happy about this realignment! Yep - could be tough sledding for a few years in some sports. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 28, 2022 16:35:52 GMT -5
AD at St Pius can’t be too happy about this realignment! Pius appealed and got moved down to 6A, currently they are 5A but would have been bumped to 7A without the appeal. From what I hear, they are happy with it because their region is Dunwoody, Lakeside, Marist, North Atlanta, Riverwood, and South Cobb. Being region opponents will add some extra juice to the Marist rivalry. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 28, 2022 17:47:39 GMT -5
AD at St Pius can’t be too happy about this realignment! Pius appealed and got moved down to 6A, currently they are 5A but would have been bumped to 7A without the appeal. From what I hear, they are happy with it because their region is Dunwoody, Lakeside, Marist, North Atlanta, Riverwood, and South Cobb. Being region opponents will add some extra juice to the Marist rivalry. Glad you followed up with that - I looked at the calculated enrollment numbers and it looked like they should've been higher than where they landed. |
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Post by dawgsoccerdad23 on Jan 28, 2022 21:02:51 GMT -5
Speaking of 6A / 7A… it’s a shame what JG has done to what once was an astonishing harrison girls soccer program. Absolutely shameful. Putting good players to waste. Destroyed the equity of the program and ruined the reputation. Not what it used to be. All because of poor coaching decisions.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 28, 2022 23:51:28 GMT -5
Equity of the program?
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jan 29, 2022 8:13:02 GMT -5
Speaking of 6A / 7A… it’s a shame what JG has done to what once was an astonishing harrison girls soccer program. Absolutely shameful. Putting good players to waste. Destroyed the equity of the program and ruined the reputation. Not what it used to be. All because of poor coaching decisions. What are you talking about? They seem to be doing just fine. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Jan 29, 2022 9:03:41 GMT -5
Anyone know the formula used or radius to determine what or what is not considered “out of zone” for private schools? |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 29, 2022 9:17:28 GMT -5
Anyone know the formula used or radius to determine what or what is not considered “out of zone” for private schools? Not sure about the radius - I believe I heard that it's smaller under the new rules? Don't quote me on that, though. The formula is that "out of zone" kids are counted 3 times. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 29, 2022 10:34:28 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Jan 29, 2022 17:10:00 GMT -5
How is that ridiculous? Makes complete sense. And with so many private schools giving out scholarships now it’s great to see GHSA even the playing field between private and public. |
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Post by fanatic21 on Jan 29, 2022 21:47:26 GMT -5
How is that ridiculous? Makes complete sense. And with so many private schools giving out scholarships now it’s great to see GHSA even the playing field between private and public. I don't think private schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships. Only need-based financial aid. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 29, 2022 22:21:24 GMT -5
Need based depending on how good they are at sports ball I'm guessing. I think it would be interesting to know how many scholarship players there are per team at the various private schools. GHSA likely had a lot of complaints and did a good job leveling the playing field, especially in the non-football sports.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 30, 2022 0:32:44 GMT -5
How is that ridiculous? Makes complete sense. And with so many private schools giving out scholarships now it’s great to see GHSA even the playing field between private and public. I don't think private schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships. Only need-based financial aid. Oh they do. They may word them differently but they’re full on sports scholarships and certain schools start handing them out in middle school. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jan 30, 2022 11:13:46 GMT -5
I don't think private schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships. Only need-based financial aid. Oh they do. They may word them differently but they’re full on sports scholarships and certain schools start handing them out in middle school. So, you are saying Elementary School age kids are not recruited to play sports for a school? That is something I would agree with by the way, because I don't think it is possible to identify a 5-8 year old as a potential high school star. Which is why I think it is insane that there is a blanket 3x rule for out of district students. Why in the world is a student that started at a school at Kindergarten counted as 3x if they are out of district? I don't believe there is anyone on the planet that could predict they will be an athletic star 9 years later. IMO the out of district multiplier shouldn't apply to a student unless they started at a school district in middle school or high school. If you want, back it up to include moving in as 4th or 5th graders. Including younger students is just insane and lazy. My prediction. Now that the Private & City schools are spread out more across all classes, they will just win a higher percentage of State Titles. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 30, 2022 12:51:52 GMT -5
Using school district is ridiculous because it does not accurately reflect the service area of a private school. A much better definition of service area for a private school would be a 3 mile radius from the school. Take the north Atlanta school district for example. I think there are 6 or 7 ghsa private schools spread across the attendance area but yet they are all considered to have identical service areas. Similar thing happens in Roswell with blesses trinity and fellowship Christian.
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 30, 2022 12:58:52 GMT -5
The difference between private school success and public school is not recruiting or scholarships. The main difference between public school v private school success in sports is participation rates. As a general rule, private schools are accepting students who are motivated to participate in extra curricular activities. At most private schools the participation rate is 75%. At most public schools, the participation rate is 25 to 30%.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jan 30, 2022 20:36:00 GMT -5
The difference between private school success and public school is not recruiting or scholarships. The main difference between public school v private school success in sports is participation rates. As a general rule, private schools are accepting students who are motivated to participate in extra curricular activities. At most private schools the participation rate is 75%. At most public schools, the participation rate is 25 to 30%. Glad someone made this point. I’ve watched kid(s) at a private school, get cut from a very competitive soccer team and make a b-line across the field, to ask the track coach for a tryout… on the same day. Trust me, none of those kids were on any form of scholarship. As one opportunity closed, they were simply looking for the next opportunity to compete and participate. We as parents, who are willing to read and/or comment on a soccer blog, I think can all appreciate that, doing nothing, was simply not an option. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Feb 8, 2022 1:00:13 GMT -5
This breaks my heart ... they are putting BT in my local school's region...Wow |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 8, 2022 12:37:25 GMT -5
The difference between private school success and public school is not recruiting or scholarships. The main difference between public school v private school success in sports is participation rates. As a general rule, private schools are accepting students who are motivated to participate in extra curricular activities. At most private schools the participation rate is 75%. At most public schools, the participation rate is 25 to 30%. Glad someone made this point. I’ve watched kid(s) at a private school, get cut from a very competitive soccer team and make a b-line across the field, to ask the track coach for a tryout… on the same day. Trust me, none of those kids were on any form of scholarship. As one opportunity closed, they were simply looking for the next opportunity to compete and participate. We as parents, who are willing to read and/or comment on a soccer blog, I think can all appreciate that, doing nothing, was simply not an option. Agree. My kids are in public school, but I have told them that doing nothing is not an option. My older one has done soccer since they were 5, but my middle school aged kid started soccer later and just started academy this year versus recreation, I think mainly because big sibling was doing it as well. I'm not sure its their passion, but our rule always is they have to do some form of activity and extra curricular, but of course with that one starting academy where we are paying big bucks, I have to actually see a want to get better and be competitive or we will put them back in recreation or whatever other activity they want to do instead. |
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Post by benched on Feb 14, 2022 12:21:08 GMT -5
Anyone know if an athlete can play two HS sports overlapping like basketball and soccer? I cannot find a specific rule on the GHSA site or our local school district (Cobb) site. It has always been my understanding that you have to finish one sport or be released by the coach, before you can participate in the other.
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