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Post by coffee on Apr 3, 2022 0:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Apr 3, 2022 12:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 3, 2022 13:46:05 GMT -5
Is there any information about ECNL ID camps for these clubs?
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Post by coffee on Apr 4, 2022 18:18:12 GMT -5
Is there any information about ECNL ID camps for these clubs? When you say, ‘ID camps’ and you’re not talking about tryouts, last year they all had pre-tryouts camps. So far I’ve only seen the AFU pre-tryouts camp listed above. The NTH Milton pre-tryouts camp shown above won’t serve GA, or DPL teams. I expect this year will be like last year, and all of the ECNL clubs will eventually announce pre-tryouts camps.
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Post by soccer888 on Apr 4, 2022 18:18:56 GMT -5
Why do the clubs bother to announce these? They think we don't all know that every club will have tryouts on the same dates to screw us over and put us in difficult situations if we want/need to switch clubs?
What we need to see are the planned ID events - MLSNext, ECNL, GA...
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 4, 2022 18:51:32 GMT -5
Is there any information about ECNL ID camps for these clubs? When you say, ‘ID camps’ and you’re not talking about tryouts, last year they all had pre-tryouts camps. So far I’ve only seen the AFU pre-tryouts camp listed above. The NTH Milton pre-tryouts camp shown above won’t serve GA, or DPL teams. I expect this year will be like last year, and all of the ECNL clubs will eventually announce pre-tryouts camps. Last year, the ECNL clubs all had their own "ECNL ID camps", specifically for 2009's and older who were interested in ECNL and ECRL. They were held earlier in the month of May while teams were still playing their regular schedule.
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 4, 2022 19:28:45 GMT -5
Is there any information about ECNL ID camps for these clubs? When you say, ‘ID camps’ and you’re not talking about tryouts, last year they all had pre-tryouts camps. So far I’ve only seen the AFU pre-tryouts camp listed above. The NTH Milton pre-tryouts camp shown above won’t serve GA, or DPL teams. I expect this year will be like last year, and all of the ECNL clubs will eventually announce pre-tryouts camps. The pre tryout camps are the money grabs that have academy age players come out for trainings before tryouts even though most clubs have pool training at academy ages. I am talking about the ECNL ID camps where clubs try to get players from other clubs to come join their ECNL teams. Here is the link to last year’s forum discussion about it gasoccerforum.com/thread/5644/sessions-camps
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 4, 2022 19:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by soccernoleuk on Apr 4, 2022 19:55:32 GMT -5
Meh, GSA already knows who they will have on their ECNL teams next year. They are either returning players or players that have been recruited to the club. Just showing up at their ID Camp and/or tryouts won't get you on one of their ECNL teams. These camps are just for show so they can say they held one like the other clubs. More than likely the players they are interested in, from other clubs, will be invited to train with the current teams through the month of May.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Apr 4, 2022 20:00:01 GMT -5
Meh, GSA already knows who they will have on their ECNL teams next year. They are either returning players or players that have been recruited to the club. Just showing up at their ID Camp and/or tryouts won't get you on one of their ECNL teams. These camps are just for show so they can say they held one like the other clubs. More than likely the players they are interested in, from other clubs, will be invited to train with the current teams through the month of May. Speaking of which, are these unwritten rules that clubs can't recruit other teams ECNL players before mid May or are they actually written somewhere? I suppose if the player isn't committed to an ECNL team in the previous year it's ok, but these 'for show' ID camps as described here are getting old aren't they?
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Post by coffee on Apr 5, 2022 3:31:48 GMT -5
When you say, ‘ID camps’ and you’re not talking about tryouts, last year they all had pre-tryouts camps. So far I’ve only seen the AFU pre-tryouts camp listed above. The NTH Milton pre-tryouts camp shown above won’t serve GA, or DPL teams. I expect this year will be like last year, and all of the ECNL clubs will eventually announce pre-tryouts camps. The pre tryout camps are the money grabs that have academy age players come out for trainings before tryouts even though most clubs have pool training at academy ages. I am talking about the ECNL ID camps where clubs try to get players from other clubs to come join their ECNL teams. Here is the link to last year’s forum discussion about it gasoccerforum.com/thread/5644/sessions-campsYep. My bad. We actually went to more than one last year. I just forgot what they had called them. That ID camps are what I was talking about, but using the wrong term.
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Post by coffee on Apr 5, 2022 4:16:49 GMT -5
I keep seeing people here act like the teams are all set, or they know all of the good players, and it’s a big waste of time to go to these things. I can tell you from experience that not all players they might be interested are known. I’m not saying that they pickup a lot of new players every year, or that every kid that attends will be picked up by some ECNL, or ECNL-R team. However, I can tell you that it happens. I personally know of two examples from last year of girls not known that were given offers after the ID camps. A year later those two are not even close to being bubble players; they have very secure places on their respective teams.
Look, I understand being realistic. Yet, to my daughter the risk of being told, ‘no’ was not as big as the risk of not playing at the highest level she possibly can. She trains so friggin’ hard. If she wants to take a shot, I’m going to help her in whatever way I can. If your kids is a hard worker and is asking you about ID camps, I say take them. At least they’ll get to see what it’s like at the next level. Last year the ECNL clubs scheduled it so that it was possible to attend all of the ID camps.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 5, 2022 9:00:38 GMT -5
ECNL players are well known by u15. With few exveptions, the top are known to the coaches and to the players themselves. The exception may be a player who moves in from another state. I think people forget that the best players also continue to develop and get better as well. Good luck to all!
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 5, 2022 9:46:31 GMT -5
ECNL players are well known by u15. With few exveptions, the top are known to the coaches and to the players themselves. The exception may be a player who moves in from another state. I think people forget that the best players also continue to develop and get better as well. Good luck to all! The best players sometimes continue to develop and get better but not all of them. Some get hurt (lots on the girls side), some quit for other reasons, some, choose to drop down a level to concentrate on school, some move away. Every year (except possibly U19) there are a number of spots that open up via the above reasons.
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Post by NotherSoccerParent on Apr 5, 2022 11:46:43 GMT -5
ID sessions IMO mean more than the actual tryouts so take them seriously. I think by the time tryouts come around, teams are pretty set except for a couple of spots. The ID session is probably where you’re really going to know whether you’re going to make a certain team.
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Apr 5, 2022 11:49:43 GMT -5
ECNL players are well known by u15. With few exveptions, the top are known to the coaches and to the players themselves. The exception may be a player who moves in from another state. I think people forget that the best players also continue to develop and get better as well. Good luck to all! The best players sometimes continue to develop and get better but not all of them. Some get hurt (lots on the girls side), some quit for other reasons, some, choose to drop down a level to concentrate on school, some move away. Every year (except possibly U19) there are a number of spots that open up via the above reasons. agreed, and not always current players getting worse, many kids hit growth spurts get bigger/faster that allow them to move up a team. the reality is about half the kids on the top team at least hit growth spurts sooner than everyone else which is why they are on the top team. when other kids catch up things get more interesting.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 5, 2022 21:06:45 GMT -5
Experience for our player was the coach improved the team by improving playef 14 to 16. They played limited minutes but minutes played had to be quality.
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Post by NotherSoccerParent on Apr 8, 2022 13:47:05 GMT -5
Well, Concorde is doing ID session as well on May 15. At least it’s in the afternoon to evening so you can go to GSA in the morning, maybe NASA/UFA around noon (I’m just assuming they too will make it that day), and Concorde in the afternoon/evening. 😂
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Post by soccerdad76 on Apr 8, 2022 13:51:30 GMT -5
Any ECNL ID camps on 5/15 will interfere with those playing in the ECNL showcase in SC that weekend… perhaps intentionally?
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Post by soccer888 on Apr 8, 2022 18:52:21 GMT -5
Here's another for girls who may want a shot at Girls Academy - SSA also having IDs on May 15th.
SSA will be hosting pre-tryout ID Events prior to tryouts. These ID Clinics will give both SSA and non-SSA players the opportunity to meet with the coaching staff and become familiar with some of the tryout activities in preparation.
Girls 2004-2010 Girls Academy League ID May 15th Marathon Park
2:30-3:45 PM- 04s-06s
4:15-5:30 PM- 07s-08s
6:00-7:15 PM- 09s-10s
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 9, 2022 1:05:20 GMT -5
ECNL players are well known by u15. With few exveptions, the top are known to the coaches and to the players themselves. The exception may be a player who moves in from another state. I think people forget that the best players also continue to develop and get better as well. Good luck to all! Sorry no Sorry - but that right there is partially the issue we have in youth soccer. Top players are known and so everyone should just take their ball and go home since it's all rigged. Not coming at you personally, I'm just echoing the thoughts that many on here already know. Most kids don't grow, progress, improve or get the game at the same rate as others. The stud/studdess of today may be a good player in a couple of years(extra training not withstanding). Additionally, these types of sessions are were most of the decisions are solidified. Yes you may have a shell of a good team, but maybe this is where you improve on your current winger, center-back, etc. Another goal of this is to sometimes find someone who may be looking to move clubs who had not given any indication earlier. I've said in the past and I'll say again. By the time Tryouts arrive, many spots are already locked down with offers from coaches. Those spots are usually locked down at the pre-tryout ID Camps. Good-Luck everyone...
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Post by dabe on Apr 10, 2022 4:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by misssocceratl on Apr 10, 2022 10:43:48 GMT -5
UFA tryouts: http://instagr.am/p/CcAkLoQObnC Got word there will be an "ECNL ID Camp". I believe invites for tryouts will be sent out based on tht. Don't quote me.. You do not need an invite to go to tryouts. That being said, many times the ECNL ID camp is where players are identified and approached by coaches if they haven’t already been prior to the camp.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 10, 2022 13:06:32 GMT -5
Lest we not forget, the current team members also know talent and can contact a player. I know this happens...no coach contact needed.
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Post by dabe on Apr 10, 2022 18:35:13 GMT -5
UFA tryouts: http://instagr.am/p/CcAkLoQObnC Got word there will be an "ECNL ID Camp". I believe invites for tryouts will be sent out based on tht. Don't quote me.. You do not need an invite to go to tryouts. That being said, many times the ECNL ID camp is where players are identified and approached by coaches if they haven’t already been prior to the camp. Oh okay- wasn’t sure. Thanks for the info! Still unclear on whether or not ID camps are expected but we’ll figure it out LOL
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Post by coffee on Apr 21, 2022 14:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Apr 21, 2022 14:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Apr 21, 2022 15:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 21, 2022 16:25:40 GMT -5
Yo, so my kid is super elite, I'm talking super. next level elite. I'm talking the next American Messi, he's that good. he can dribble through cones like you have never seen. He can also juggle, the circus was interested him performing once a month, that is how good he is. The coaches at our club, most have not ever seen him play, but they all oooh and ahhh over him. Ask them all who the best 12 year old at the club is, and they will say my kids name, even though, they have never seen him play. That's how good he is. I was an Olympic athlete and my wife a professional track star, so it's in his blood. he gets it, hes just special. Oh yea, we can't drive to AU, so we turned down a spot there.
Does he go to super elite tryouts or ecnl tryouts.
Confused parents wants to know.......
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Post by bogan on Apr 21, 2022 17:47:13 GMT -5
Yo, so my kid is super elite, I'm talking super. next level elite. I'm talking the next American Messi, he's that good. he can dribble through cones like you have never seen. He can also juggle, the circus was interested him performing once a month, that is how good he is. The coaches at our club, most have not ever seen him play, but they all oooh and ahhh over him. Ask them all who the best 12 year old at the club is, and they will say my kids name, even though, they have never seen him play. That's how good he is. I was an Olympic athlete and my wife a professional track star, so it's in his blood. he gets it, hes just special. Oh yea, we can't drive to AU, so we turned down a spot there. Does he go to super elite tryouts or ecnl tryouts. Confused parents wants to know....... …just go ahead and sign the Nike deal…
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