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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 17, 2023 12:19:53 GMT -5
Let the bloodbath commence. AU recently announced some of their roster changes for the 2024 season. The biggest takeaway is that maybe, just maybe, you do not sign a homegrown deal with Atlanta United. In this go-round, four homegrowns have to find a new home or hope to re-sign with AU. Meanwhile, George Campbell is thriving north of the border. He was signed to a three-year deal through the 2025 season. Plus, he's making more than three times the paltry sum he was being paid at AU. I hope the young players released, are able to find a new home to revive their careers and rediscover their love of the beautiful game...
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Post by rifle on Nov 30, 2023 15:41:50 GMT -5
Heads up.
George Bello should be facing off with Mohammad Salah today in UCL match.
Edit: Europa league
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 4, 2023 8:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 15, 2023 19:37:53 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Dec 16, 2023 7:21:38 GMT -5
“We don’t control it so it sucks” -Don Garber . Well, he didn’t really say that but I shortened the article for you.
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Post by rifle on Dec 16, 2023 9:03:03 GMT -5
“We don’t control it so it sucks” -Don Garber . Well, he didn’t really say that but I shortened the article for you. Rather than allowing small teams to host matches against “superior” MLS teams and create a boost to their income stream, MLS prefers to pinch off their income stream. Basically… “we were unable to monetize it so we’re out”. Good riddance. MLS may be on a more solid footing over the past twenty years as a result of the franchise model but their control of the federation is suffocating the growth of the game in our country.
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Post by newguy on Dec 16, 2023 9:26:26 GMT -5
“We don’t control it so it sucks” -Don Garber . Well, he didn’t really say that but I shortened the article for you. Rather than allowing small teams to host matches against “superior” MLS teams and create a boost to their income stream, MLS prefers to pinch off their income stream. Basically… “we were unable to monetize it so we’re out”. Good riddance. MLS may be on a more solid footing over the past twenty years as a result of the franchise model but their control of the federation is suffocating the growth of the game in our country. And we’d rather sell out our home stadiums against Liga MX teams in a completely fabricated tournament while pausing our season for a month instead of maybe having our teams play in Chattanooga where we won’t see a penny.
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Post by rpsoccer on Dec 20, 2023 14:52:02 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 20, 2023 21:00:01 GMT -5
So happy for Johnny Velcro. I was worried his career was stalled stuck on the AU 2 squad. Hopefully, he is finally allowed to shine in Liga MX 👏👏👏
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Post by rifle on Jan 12, 2024 13:22:37 GMT -5
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Post by playfromtheback on Jan 12, 2024 13:34:03 GMT -5
Are they able to make more with NIL's than they would in MLS?
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Post by rifle on Jan 12, 2024 20:56:47 GMT -5
Are they able to make more with NIL's than they would in MLS? No idea but apparently it wouldn’t be very hard to earn more than a MLS rookie contract pays. Clearly they see that being drafted is actually just a tryout and they know that some who do manage to sign a MLS contract are trapped in a league determined to pay them next to nothing. It’s kinda sad that “one more shot at a college championship” is preferable to (hoping to) sign with MLS. If it was just one I would wonder but two players from the same team? I only follow Akron because I grew up fifteen minutes away. Are any other men’s college players doing the same?
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Post by newguy on Jan 13, 2024 10:52:24 GMT -5
Are they able to make more with NIL's than they would in MLS? No idea but apparently it wouldn’t be very hard to earn more than a MLS rookie contract pays. Clearly they see that being drafted is actually just a tryout and they know that some who do manage to sign a MLS contract are trapped in a league determined to pay them next to nothing. It’s kinda sad that “one more shot at a college championship” is preferable to (hoping to) sign with MLS. If it was just one I would wonder but two players from the same team? I only follow Akron because I grew up fifteen minutes away. Are any other men’s college players doing the same? Signing a homegrown contract is less than $70k per year I believe. Depending on their area of studies, graduating and getting started in the real world could be the better play financially.
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Post by rifle on Jan 13, 2024 12:59:09 GMT -5
Found this on Bigsoccer I think some ‘withdrawals’ post-draft were anticipated.
"New for this year, the SuperDraft was expanded to include college players who are collegiate sophomores and above, Generation Adidas players, any former college player who departed college with remaining eligibility since the conclusion of the college season approximately one (1) year prior to the SuperDraft, and other players specifically made available by the League.
Drafted players with collegiate eligibility remaining can opt to return to school in the fall. Any drafted player who opts to return to college in the fall of 2024 or turns professional will not be draft-eligible in the future."www.bigsoccer.com/threads/akron-zips-2024.2129053/Sorry for the off topic rabbit hole. Back to the thread…
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 13, 2024 21:55:15 GMT -5
No idea but apparently it wouldn’t be very hard to earn more than a MLS rookie contract pays. Clearly they see that being drafted is actually just a tryout and they know that some who do manage to sign a MLS contract are trapped in a league determined to pay them next to nothing. It’s kinda sad that “one more shot at a college championship” is preferable to (hoping to) sign with MLS. If it was just one I would wonder but two players from the same team? I only follow Akron because I grew up fifteen minutes away. Are any other men’s college players doing the same? Signing a homegrown contract is less than $70k per year I believe. Depending on their area of studies, graduating and getting started in the real world could be the better play financially. rifle is correct in that even if you're drafted, you don't have to immediately leave college and head to work as a Pro. The local kid formerly of AU, who recently got drafted from Clemson by Charlotte FC is returning this fall for his Junior year. Additionally, with the new CBA between the MLS and the MLSPA the minimum for senior players goes to $109,200k and $97,700 for reserve roster players in 2024. Additionally, player and their family get full medical coverage, 401k MLS contribution, plus an interesting "Gameday" bonus. Senior players get one of the following: $500/$750/$1,000 for Gameday Roster/Play/Start. For Reserve/HG players it is $250/$750/$1,500. Keep in mind, this is per game. Of course their are still individual bonuses in each contract and team bonuses for winning the supporters shield, making the playoffs, winning the whole thing, etc...
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 13, 2024 21:59:29 GMT -5
It's the new rule with the MLS Superdraft. Akin to the Homegrown rights a club may have with players in college, it allows you to finish your degree before embarking on your pro career. Prior to last month, only seniors and graduates could go into the Superdraft. This year, it was opened up to Sophomores and Juniors. The only way Freshmen could go into the draft was via a Generation Adidas contract...
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Post by newguy on Jan 13, 2024 22:45:43 GMT -5
Signing a homegrown contract is less than $70k per year I believe. Depending on their area of studies, graduating and getting started in the real world could be the better play financially. rifle is correct in that even if you're drafted, you don't have to immediately leave college and head to work as a Pro. The local kid formerly of AU, who recently got drafted from Clemson by Charlotte FC is returning this fall for his Junior year. Additionally, with the new CBA between the MLS and the MLSPA the minimum for senior players goes to $109,200k and $97,700 for reserve roster players in 2024. Additionally, player and their family get full medical coverage, 401k MLS contribution, plus an interesting "Gameday" bonus. Senior players get one of the following: $500/$750/$1,000 for Gameday Roster/Play/Start. For Reserve/HG players it is $250/$750/$1,500. Keep in mind, this is per game. Of course their are still individual bonuses in each contract and team bonuses for winning the supporters shield, making the playoffs, winning the whole thing, etc... A very sincere thank you for the added information. Genuinely curious, if a player signs a homegrown deal and plays with the twos what does that look like? Do they still get all the benefits?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 13, 2024 23:22:07 GMT -5
rifle is correct in that even if you're drafted, you don't have to immediately leave college and head to work as a Pro. The local kid formerly of AU, who recently got drafted from Clemson by Charlotte FC is returning this fall for his Junior year. Additionally, with the new CBA between the MLS and the MLSPA the minimum for senior players goes to $109,200k and $97,700 for reserve roster players in 2024. Additionally, player and their family get full medical coverage, 401k MLS contribution, plus an interesting "Gameday" bonus. Senior players get one of the following: $500/$750/$1,000 for Gameday Roster/Play/Start. For Reserve/HG players it is $250/$750/$1,500. Keep in mind, this is per game. Of course their are still individual bonuses in each contract and team bonuses for winning the supporters shield, making the playoffs, winning the whole thing, etc... A very sincere thank you for the added information. Genuinely curious, if a player signs a homegrown deal and plays with the twos what does that look like? Do they still get all the benefits? It depends. If you are a HG, you get the pay et.al. But technically you are loaned out to AU2 so you are not eligible for the benefits. The inverse is also true. To get you playing time, you may be rostered with the first team, train with the first team, be on game-day rosters for the first team but play most of your actual games with AU2. This technically keeps you sharp and in playing form instead of just being on the bench all the time. In some of those instances you may get some of the benefits. I'm sure MLS Next Pro has it's own costs of operations. I knew a kid who played for AU2 while in the Academy and I believe he said they got between $55 and $75 for per diem instead of the $100 for the first team per day. Side note: The MLS Next Pro league does not have any salary cap, so you are free to negotiate whatever you feel you can get from the club. But we all know they won't pay you more than they pay their first team players...
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Post by socks on Jan 15, 2024 16:04:43 GMT -5
Any word on if the Academy will continue to drop teams in the younger age groups?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 20, 2024 12:36:11 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the new limit to stoppage rules adopted by the MLS for the 2024 season?
The off-field treatment rule: This rule requires any player who remains down with a "suspected" injury for at least 15 seconds to leave the field and sit out for at least 2 minutes. I call it the Neymar rule...
The timed substitution rule: This rule requires players to exit within 10 seconds or risk your replacement having to wait another 1 minute to enter the game...
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Post by bogan on Jan 20, 2024 12:46:08 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the new limit to stoppage rules adopted by the MLS for the 2024 season? The off-field treatment rule: This rule requires any player who remains down with a "suspected" injury for at least 15 seconds to leave the field and sit out for at least 2 minutes. I call it the Neymar rule... The timed substitution rule: This rule requires players to exit within 10 seconds or risk your replacement having to wait another 1 minute to enter the game... I personally think stopping the clock makes the most sense…but these changes could help.
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 20, 2024 13:26:23 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the new limit to stoppage rules adopted by the MLS for the 2024 season? The off-field treatment rule: This rule requires any player who remains down with a "suspected" injury for at least 15 seconds to leave the field and sit out for at least 2 minutes. I call it the Neymar rule... The timed substitution rule: This rule requires players to exit within 10 seconds or risk your replacement having to wait another 1 minute to enter the game... I like it. Interested to see how it works. Gets back to playing soccer and not spend the entire second half laying on the ground.
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Post by manutott on Jan 21, 2024 9:36:10 GMT -5
Any word on if the Academy will continue to drop teams in the younger age groups? Also curious about the younger age groups. It seems they are being directed to the Futures program but that is just my perception.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 21, 2024 22:38:37 GMT -5
Any word on if the Academy will continue to drop teams in the younger age groups? IMO and based on discussions, it appears that AU is set to gradually discontinue most of their youth academy teams, retaining only the U15s, U17s, and possibly the U19s. The decision is influenced by the annual MLS International Generation Adidas Cup tournament, ensuring the retention of the U15s and U17s teams. Currently, the 19s play in the local UPSL and are used to supplement the MLS Next Pro team - AU2. This phased transition commenced last year with the removal of the U12 and U16 age groups. The approach involves a controlled phase-out, allowing the current U13s and U14s to naturally age out without replacement. The void left by these age groups is expected to be filled by the RDS, the Futures program, and a yet-to-be-specified discovery program. This strategic move positions AU to closely monitor and engage with local talent and clubs... Honestly, if this is the pathway for AU, I genuinely like the new approach. It enables a more focused recruitment of developed and proven academy players at the ages of 15 or 17, rather than relying on anointed players at 11 whose future success is uncertain or based solely on their size relative to their age group. In my view, the U19s should be given the flexibility to choose between playing in UPSL or with local ECNL clubs during the fall season. Opting for UPSL could be suitable for those already committed to college, while utilizing ECNL and its showcases can be an excellent platform to finalize college recruitment for others. Regardless of the choice, in the spring, players should have the opportunity to participate in High School soccer. This approach not only allows reconnection with their local schools but also provides a meaningful way to conclude their youth soccer journey by playing alongside and against friends. I recall that last year, a couple of AU players chose this path, with one earning the Gatorade Player of the Year and the other securing a State Championship...
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Post by socks on Jan 23, 2024 14:59:32 GMT -5
Any word on if the Academy will continue to drop teams in the younger age groups? IMO and based on discussions, it appears that AU is set to gradually discontinue most of their youth academy teams, retaining only the U15s, U17s, and possibly the U19s. The decision is influenced by the annual MLS International Generation Adidas Cup tournament, ensuring the retention of the U15s and U17s teams. Currently, the 19s play in the local UPSL and are used to supplement the MLS Next Pro team - AU2. This phased transition commenced last year with the removal of the U12 and U16 age groups. The approach involves a controlled phase-out, allowing the current U13s and U14s to naturally age out without replacement. The void left by these age groups is expected to be filled by the RDS, the Futures program, and a yet-to-be-specified discovery program. This strategic move positions AU to closely monitor and engage with local talent and clubs... Honestly, if this is the pathway for AU, I genuinely like the new approach. It enables a more focused recruitment of developed and proven academy players at the ages of 15 or 17, rather than relying on anointed players at 11 whose future success is uncertain or based solely on their size relative to their age group. In my view, the U19s should be given the flexibility to choose between playing in UPSL or with local ECNL clubs during the fall season. Opting for UPSL could be suitable for those already committed to college, while utilizing ECNL and its showcases can be an excellent platform to finalize college recruitment for others. Regardless of the choice, in the spring, players should have the opportunity to participate in High School soccer. This approach not only allows reconnection with their local schools but also provides a meaningful way to conclude their youth soccer journey by playing alongside and against friends. I recall that last year, a couple of AU players chose this path, with one earning the Gatorade Player of the Year and the other securing a State Championship... Fantastic insight; thank you!
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 27, 2024 6:00:35 GMT -5
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Post by rotgg on Feb 27, 2024 9:36:54 GMT -5
Any word on if the Academy will continue to drop teams in the younger age groups? I talked to a strong source that said they were not dropping the U13 team next year and are actively recruiting for that team. I still do not know what to believe lol
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 21, 2024 11:14:48 GMT -5
Some info on IMHO the best youth tournament for boys in North America... www.soccerwire.com/news/broadcast-schedule-released-for-2024-generation-adidas-cup/International Professional Clubs from - Argentina, Brazil, Croatia, Spain, France, England, Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, Columbia, Mexico, South Korea + All MLS Academys
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Post by footyfan on Mar 27, 2024 20:35:15 GMT -5
Any word on if the Academy will continue to drop teams in the younger age groups? I talked to a strong source that said they were not dropping the U13 team next year and are actively recruiting for that team. I still do not know what to believe lol Hearing MLS Next will be U15, U16, U18
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Post by socks on Mar 28, 2024 12:31:43 GMT -5
I talked to a strong source that said they were not dropping the U13 team next year and are actively recruiting for that team. I still do not know what to believe lol Hearing MLS Next will be U15, U16, U18 This is certainly interesting. Any idea what they will do with players in the younger age groups if true? I believe they have players as young as upcoming U12 on their current U13 team.
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