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Post by soccer3819 on Apr 18, 2023 15:46:23 GMT -5
So we are new to the Metro Atlanta academy soccer landscape and what a landscape it is I have found. I wanted to ask a question to see if this is a normal occurrence each year since the 2023-2024 tryout session announcements are looming, but why would a soccer club charge a fee for an ID camp or even tryouts?
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Post by soccerloafer on Apr 18, 2023 16:33:09 GMT -5
Because they can.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 17:26:21 GMT -5
So we are new to the Metro Atlanta academy soccer landscape and what a landscape it is I have found. I wanted to ask a question to see if this is a normal occurrence each year since the 2023-2024 tryout session announcements are looming, but why would a soccer club charge a fee for an ID camp or even tryouts? As the other poster said, because they can. At one club less cynically they hand out tshirts with numbers for tryouts which I guess covers the cost of them. |
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Post by soccer3819 on Apr 18, 2023 17:49:14 GMT -5
“Because they can” valid response, but if the other branches are not charging a fee, then how can one branch request the fee and the others don’t? Is each branch self governed?
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Post by newposter on Apr 18, 2023 22:38:40 GMT -5
Each club sets their own tryout protocols.
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Post by lovetokickit on Apr 19, 2023 8:12:26 GMT -5
The club could also want to see if you're serious about getting ID'd, right? You're not going to pay if you're not serious about coming.
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Post by rotgg on Apr 19, 2023 8:38:17 GMT -5
Good luck with your quest
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Post by atlchiefs on May 5, 2023 12:29:07 GMT -5
Tryouts, aka the most difficult days of a metro Atlanta youth soccer player and family, are upon us - like a swam of locusts (!). Good grief. The garbage going on between clubs, coaches, and directors borders on the insane.
As someone that's been around this game in the ATL for a long stretch, since the early days of Datagraphics, Concorde, and the Buckhead Bucks, if this game is truly all about the kids, then the adults in the room must come to the rescue. If you don't know what I'm referring to, then count yourself lucky. If you do know, then please implore your club, coaches, and directors to behave professionally and responsibly - and actually in the best interest of your kids, all of them.
It starts with ceasing the threats against current players (children - youth) for exploring potential new clubs and opportunities.
Maybe they want to play with friends or school mates. Or maybe, just maybe they want to try something different.
Good lord. They are kids. And, this is still just a game, their game! It's supposed to be fun.
rant over - out
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Post by diamondmid on May 5, 2023 12:36:25 GMT -5
Here's an idea: Open a dummy email account and send out a mass email to another club's members trying to recruit them to your club. Misrepresent your results and lie about things that haven't happened. True story. There are some really desperate coaches out there.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 5, 2023 12:53:26 GMT -5
Here's an idea: Open a dummy email account and send out a mass email to another club's members trying to recruit them to your club. Misrepresent your results and lie about things that haven't happened. True story. There are some really desperate coaches out there. You referring to the email that UFA sent to AFU parents on the boys’ side? It was despicable. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 5, 2023 13:16:08 GMT -5
Some people call it "Silly Season" for a reason.
Unfortunately the only thing that seems to matter is the bank account of the club and thus the wallet of the directors. What's best for the kids? Whatever the directors say. This more than likely won't change anytime soon because parents don't want to speak out, in fear of retribution from the club.
By the way, I'm not speaking about any 1 club specifically. They all do it.
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Post by mightydawg on May 5, 2023 13:20:11 GMT -5
Here's an idea: Open a dummy email account and send out a mass email to another club's members trying to recruit them to your club. Misrepresent your results and lie about things that haven't happened. True story. There are some really desperate coaches out there. You referring to the email that UFA sent to AFU parents on the boys’ side? It was despicable. post it. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 5, 2023 13:30:28 GMT -5
You referring to the email that UFA sent to AFU parents on the boys’ side? It was despicable. post it. Here ya go: From: Soccer Tryouts <atl.soccer.tryouts@gmail.com> Date: May 3, 2023 at 8:45:38 PM EDT To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: AFU vs UFA: 2022/23 Results Good evening, As you may be aware, the deadline for clubs to contact players was on May 1st. Your coaches at AFU have been heavily recruiting replacements for their own teams. Are you safe with your spot on the team? Many of you have already reached out and we are excited to see you at tryouts. However, for those of you who are still deciding what to do next or may be uncertain about which league is best for you, we would like to provide some information to help you make an informed decision. It's important to note that UFA Forsyth has had remarkable success in most ECNL Leagues, outperforming AFU. Additionally, all of our UFA Norcross E64 teams qualified for Nationals after competing against top ECNL and MLS Next teams in regional play. We have highlighted some of the most notable results for comparison purposes. We encourage you to remove any stigma you may have and consider the details provided. We believe that our success speaks for itself and we would love for you to join us. CURRENT STANDINGS AND SIMILAR LEVELS OF PLAY AFU ECNL AFU ECRL UFA ECNL UFA E64 2010B 7/12 7/11 3/12 1/9 (1-0 vs Alabama ECNL) 2009B 6/13 9/12 7/13 2/9 (7-1 vs AFU ECRL) 2008B 2/13 6/11 9/13 1/9 (7-3 vs Concorde ECNL) 2007B 10/13 8/11 8/13 1/9 (3-2 vs AFU ECNL) 2006B 12/13 8/11 5/13 2/9 (Tied GSA ECRL 3-3) INTERESTED? If you are thinking about making a change, we invite you to register for our tryouts and discover for yourself why our two branches have been outperforming AFU this year. Our teams are led by excellent, highly experienced coaches who prioritize the well-being of our young players while also delivering results on the field. CLICK HERE FOR MAY 7th UFA FORSYTH ECNL ID CLINIC CLICK HERE TO REGISTER FOR UFA NORCROSS ELITE 64 TRYOUTS |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 5, 2023 13:32:02 GMT -5
The format of the email gets a little screwy above and the links didn’t come over but you get the gist.
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Post by soccer3819 on May 5, 2023 14:36:09 GMT -5
Tryouts, aka the most difficult days of a metro Atlanta youth soccer player and family, are upon us - like a swam of locusts (!). Good grief. The garbage going on between clubs, coaches, and directors borders on the insane. As someone that's been around this game in the ATL for a long stretch, since the early days of Datagraphics, Concorde, and the Buckhead Bucks, if this game is truly all about the kids, then the adults in the room must come to the rescue. If you don't know what I'm referring to, then count yourself lucky. If you do know, then please implore your club, coaches, and directors to behave professionally and responsibly - and actually in the best interest of your kids, all of them. It starts with ceasing the threats against current players (children - youth) for exploring potential new clubs and opportunities. Maybe they want to play with friends or school mates. Or maybe, just maybe they want to try something different. Good lord. They are kids. And, this is still just a game, their game! It's supposed to be fun. rant over - out I am so with you on this! |
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Post by dabe on May 5, 2023 17:39:58 GMT -5
That email from UFA is kind of crazy, considering the crapfest that Elite 64 is. UFA is going to have to do a lot more than provide standings. My kid could lose every match this upcoming season, and she would stay at AFU a) because her team is phenomenal (on and off the field) and b) I will never have to worry about any of the AFU coaches sending out an email like that.
Yikes.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 5, 2023 22:37:45 GMT -5
That email from UFA is kind of crazy, considering the crapfest that Elite 64 is. UFA is going to have to do a lot more than provide standings. My kid could lose every match this upcoming season, and she would stay at AFU a) because her team is phenomenal (on and off the field) and b) I will never have to worry about any of the AFU coaches sending out an email like that. Yikes. Oh Dabe don’t be so naive you know better 😂 There isn’t a club out there that is trustworthy including AFU. As you said in an earlier post sometimes we just don’t air the dirty laundry out to dry for all to see EVEN IF THEY DESERVE IT but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t stink! 😂 #IYKYK and if you don’t you wouldn’t believe it anyway. |
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Post by keepingithonest on May 6, 2023 6:55:53 GMT -5
Here ya go: From: Soccer Tryouts <atl.soccer.tryouts@gmail.com> Date: May 3, 2023 at 8:45:38 PM EDT To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: AFU vs UFA: 2022/23 Results Good evening, As you may be aware, the deadline for clubs to contact players was on May 1st. Your coaches at AFU have been heavily recruiting replacements for their own teams. Are you safe with your spot on the team? Many of you have already reached out and we are excited to see you at tryouts. However, for those of you who are still deciding what to do next or may be uncertain about which league is best for you, we would like to provide some information to help you make an informed decision. It's important to note that UFA Forsyth has had remarkable success in most ECNL Leagues, outperforming AFU. Additionally, all of our UFA Norcross E64 teams qualified for Nationals after competing against top ECNL and MLS Next teams in regional play. We have highlighted some of the most notable results for comparison purposes. We encourage you to remove any stigma you may have and consider the details provided. We believe that our success speaks for itself and we would love for you to join us. CURRENT STANDINGS AND SIMILAR LEVELS OF PLAY AFU ECNL AFU ECRL UFA ECNL UFA E64 2010B 7/12 7/11 3/12 1/9 (1-0 vs Alabama ECNL) 2009B 6/13 9/12 7/h13 2/9 (7-1 vs AFU ECRL) 2008B 2/13 6/11 9/13 1/9 (7-3 vs Concorde ECNL) 2007B 10/13 8/11 8/13 1/9 (3-2 vs AFU ECNL) 2006B 12/13 8/11 5/13 2/9 (Tied GSA ECRL 3-3) INTERESTED? If you are thinking about making a change, we invite you to register for our tryouts and discover for yourself why our two branches have been outperforming AFU this year. Our teams are led by excellent, highly experienced coaches who prioritize the well-being of our young players while also delivering results on the field. CLICK HERE FOR MAY 7th UFA FORSYTH ECNL ID CLINIC CLICK HERE TO REGISTER FOR UFA NORCROSS ELITE 64 TRYOUTS Hey AFU kids and parents. Your coaches are trying to replace you so instead come and try to replace our kids to really stick it to them. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 6, 2023 10:15:25 GMT -5
Tryouts, aka the most difficult days of a metro Atlanta youth soccer player and family, are upon us - like a swam of locusts (!). Good grief. The garbage going on between clubs, coaches, and directors borders on the insane. As someone that's been around this game in the ATL for a long stretch, since the early days of Datagraphics, Concorde, and the Buckhead Bucks, if this game is truly all about the kids, then the adults in the room must come to the rescue. If you don't know what I'm referring to, then count yourself lucky. If you do know, then please implore your club, coaches, and directors to behave professionally and responsibly - and actually in the best interest of your kids, all of them. It starts with ceasing the threats against current players (children - youth) for exploring potential new clubs and opportunities. Maybe they want to play with friends or school mates. Or maybe, just maybe they want to try something different. Good lord. They are kids. And, this is still just a game, their game! It's supposed to be fun. rant over - out Unfortunately no one cares about your kids except you. I wish that was not true. We are exploring options at our child’s request. Wants to be closer to home and have a different coach and different teammates. Wants a more serious and focused approach by teammates so that they can learn more. Who knows? May not happen but the closer would be nice. |
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Post by diamondmid on May 6, 2023 11:20:03 GMT -5
That email from UFA is kind of crazy, considering the crapfest that Elite 64 is. UFA is going to have to do a lot more than provide standings. My kid could lose every match this upcoming season, and she would stay at AFU a) because her team is phenomenal (on and off the field) and b) I will never have to worry about any of the AFU coaches sending out an email like that. Yikes. Oh Dabe don’t be so naive you know better 😂 There isn’t a club out there that is trustworthy including AFU. As you said in an earlier post sometimes we just don’t air the dirty laundry out to dry for all to see EVEN IF THEY DESERVE IT but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t stink! 😂 #IYKYK and if you don’t you wouldn’t believe it anyway. While your point is valid - sending out an email like that is a different low. Thing is, we all know clubs recruit - especially at the older age groups. It's after the May 1 contact date - if you want to send out a mass email to promote your club, you aren't committing a violation. So why not put your name to the email and be upfront about it. Also - promote your club without the lies. Being anonymous and lying isn't a good look and that's what makes it seem desperate. |
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Post by hereforthedrama on May 6, 2023 13:32:20 GMT -5
Sometime ago I found this forum when I was looking for some actual information on something soccer related. I have stayed for the drama because I just can't seem to look away from all the jabs, conjectures, unfounded theories, sales jobs to try to get people to change clubs, etc. I just couldn't help but comment on this one. This email is terrible. I sure hope UFA leadership / management didn't send it out because shame on them if they did. But I'm skeptical about everything in this soccer world. So how do we know a parent or single coach or someone else didn't send it unbeknownst to their leadership? And how did this person, whoever it is (or the group) get the email addresses. Were the email addresses accurate? If so, any chance the email addresses came from inside AFU? I have so many questions and this doesn't all add up. Although the drama factor his high, which is why I follow!
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Post by Brinker on May 6, 2023 13:37:35 GMT -5
As stated in other posts, the UFA email is not really recruiting, it’s desperation. Top ECNL boys programs, like NASA and CF Platinum, will recruit certain top players privately, but this email is not that.
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Post by futbolhero on May 6, 2023 19:11:52 GMT -5
Oh Dabe don’t be so naive you know better 😂 There isn’t a club out there that is trustworthy including AFU. As you said in an earlier post sometimes we just don’t air the dirty laundry out to dry for all to see EVEN IF THEY DESERVE IT but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t stink! 😂 #IYKYK and if you don’t you wouldn’t believe it anyway. While your point is valid - sending out an email like that is a different low. Thing is, we all know clubs recruit - especially at the older age groups. It's after the May 1 contact date - if you want to send out a mass email to promote your club, you aren't committing a violation. So why not put your name to the email and be upfront about it. Also - promote your club without the lies. Being anonymous and lying isn't a good look and that's what makes it seem desperate. It is Iggy. He is a worthless POS. |
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Post by messindreams on May 6, 2023 19:16:49 GMT -5
Sometime ago I found this forum when I was looking for some actual information on something soccer related. I have stayed for the drama because I just can't seem to look away from all the jabs, conjectures, unfounded theories, sales jobs to try to get people to change clubs, etc. I just couldn't help but comment on this one. This email is terrible. I sure hope UFA leadership / management didn't send it out because shame on them if they did. But I'm skeptical about everything in this soccer world. So how do we know a parent or single coach or someone else didn't send it unbeknownst to their leadership? And how did this person, whoever it is (or the group) get the email addresses. Were the email addresses accurate? If so, any chance the email addresses came from inside AFU? I have so many questions and this doesn't all add up. Although the drama factor his high, which is why I follow! This is crazy. How did someone get hold of that contact list? Did any coach or admin switch sides? Edit: now that I thought about it, it is not hard to buy data. |
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Post by messindreams on May 6, 2023 19:18:35 GMT -5
While your point is valid - sending out an email like that is a different low. Thing is, we all know clubs recruit - especially at the older age groups. It's after the May 1 contact date - if you want to send out a mass email to promote your club, you aren't committing a violation. So why not put your name to the email and be upfront about it. Also - promote your club without the lies. Being anonymous and lying isn't a good look and that's what makes it seem desperate. It is Iggy. He is a worthless POS. Hard to believe. Sorry if they did wrong by you but this is a serious allegation. |
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Post by soccerboysmomma on May 7, 2023 9:27:33 GMT -5
Wow. There's a lot of speculation and assumptions on this thread about the reasoning behind this email and none of it is accurate.
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Post by dabe on May 7, 2023 10:11:34 GMT -5
Wow. There's a lot of speculation and assumptions on this thread about the reasoning behind this email and none of it is accurate. Do tell. I will say that there's not a whole lot of scenarios that I can think of where the sending of the email would be in good faith. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 7, 2023 10:20:38 GMT -5
The speculation is that it’s James Harris, the new ECNL girls director at UFA. I was told “everyone knows he did it” and that Iggy would not do something like that. Harris is not well thought of in the coaching circles here, I know that much. Supposedly the email is retaliation for the coach who moved from UFA to AFU last year and took a bunch of his former players.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 7, 2023 13:00:26 GMT -5
The speculation is that it’s James Harris, the new ECNL girls director at UFA. I was told “everyone knows he did it” and that Iggy would not do something like that. Harris is not well thought of in the coaching circles here, I know that much. Supposedly the email is retaliation for the coach who moved from UFA to AFU last year and took a bunch of his former players. Well it is an interesting theory considering we have not seen this type of email before, or if it happened it was kept quiet. New guy seems like the obvious one to blame. I would not be surprised about anyone from any club doing this sort of thing though. There is no class in the youth soccer world at the Director level tbh |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 7, 2023 16:57:11 GMT -5
The speculation is that it’s James Harris, the new ECNL girls director at UFA. I was told “everyone knows he did it” and that Iggy would not do something like that. Harris is not well thought of in the coaching circles here, I know that much. Supposedly the email is retaliation for the coach who moved from UFA to AFU last year and took a bunch of his former players. It is Iggys club therefore he is responsible for the actions of his staff. |
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