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Post by soccerallstar on May 7, 2023 21:11:04 GMT -5
The speculation is that it’s James Harris, the new ECNL girls director at UFA. I was told “everyone knows he did it” and that Iggy would not do something like that. Harris is not well thought of in the coaching circles here, I know that much. Supposedly the email is retaliation for the coach who moved from UFA to AFU last year and took a bunch of his former players. Interesting speculation especially when: Email was sent to the boys side, JH is the girls ECNL director. Link to register for tryouts is to Norcross. Just a thought 🤷 |
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Post by huckleberry on May 7, 2023 21:49:01 GMT -5
That email from UFA is kind of crazy, considering the crapfest that Elite 64 is. UFA is going to have to do a lot more than provide standings. My kid could lose every match this upcoming season, and she would stay at AFU a) because her team is phenomenal (on and off the field) and b) I will never have to worry about any of the AFU coaches sending out an email like that. Yikes. Oh Dabe don’t be so naive you know better 😂 There isn’t a club out there that is trustworthy including AFU. As you said in an earlier post sometimes we just don’t air the dirty laundry out to dry for all to see EVEN IF THEY DESERVE IT but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t stink! 😂 #IYKYK and if you don’t you wouldn’t believe it anyway. |
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Post by huckleberry on May 7, 2023 21:52:13 GMT -5
That email from UFA is kind of crazy, considering the crapfest that Elite 64 is. UFA is going to have to do a lot more than provide standings. My kid could lose every match this upcoming season, and she would stay at AFU a) because her team is phenomenal (on and off the field) and b) I will never have to worry about any of the AFU coaches sending out an email like that. Yikes. Well, based on the standings in most age groups, it doesn’t look like you have to worry much about losing the matches. Think you guys have that part figured out! |
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Post by dabe on May 7, 2023 22:52:36 GMT -5
That email from UFA is kind of crazy, considering the crapfest that Elite 64 is. UFA is going to have to do a lot more than provide standings. My kid could lose every match this upcoming season, and she would stay at AFU a) because her team is phenomenal (on and off the field) and b) I will never have to worry about any of the AFU coaches sending out an email like that. Yikes. Well, based on the standings in most age groups, it doesn’t look like you have to worry much about losing the matches. Think you guys have that part figured out! Struck a nerve, Huckleberry? Which team beat your kid? You're a little weird to start a new account just to say that. Why not use your actual account and stand behind your odd AFU fixation? Edit: Before this becomes a bigger issue than it needs to be: Say all you want about a club, but to criticize children's playing abilities is a little gross. I would hate for this thread to be shut down. If you're going to continue please PM so that we can keep this thread open for others who would like to continue their civil conversations. |
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Post by bogan on May 8, 2023 5:55:35 GMT -5
This is about the time of year that someone who doesn’t post a lot will suddenly appear and throw a grenade into a thread; thus, ticking off the whole forum until fall season starts…
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 8, 2023 8:05:57 GMT -5
So historically, around this time of year (silly season), the following occurs...
• It starts innocently, with a parent or family trying to understand the colossal chaos that is youth "travel soccer."
• The community rallies and gives lots of very good advice and makes recommendations based on age, location, level, etc.
• However, some issues, acts, stories, or reports we all coalesce around and take sides on emerge (UFA director and mass email this year).
• The forum grows by approximately 10–15% because of the new accounts created to advance or decry the issue mentioned above.
• We’re reminded how this is a for-profit enterprise and nothing about the physical or mental development of our kids.
• Someone comes on to remind everyone that we truly have the power as parents (I'll be the first to raise my hand).
• Someone else counters and says, "Yeah, right, you no nofing Jon Snow" Parents have no power over club directors (duh).
• “Silly Season” is quoted way too much but is aptly appropriate.
• A third group tries to get the original post, question, or information request back on track while apologizing for the thread being hijacked.
• We get daily and almost live updates on the situation at specific ID camps and tryouts (43.5 girls showed up and only 99.7 boys showed up).
• Sadly, some parents and families will realize tryouts for the top teams are a ruse. Teams have already been picked.
• Then we get the variation "What's next?" after missing out on the desired outcome for our little ones.
• Soon after tryouts conclude, there will be some kind of consensus on which age, team, club, or league came out on top.
• Even more "new" accounts will be created to dispute the assertion above that club x, age group y, will win it all in league z.
• At the end of a crescendo of posts, comments, hurt feelings, threats, and feel-good stories, we all return to our respective corners and take on the beach life until August.
There is still a lot of good advice and well-intentioned people on this forum. Please don't hesitate to use their knowledge and experience to make your journey as fun and painless as possible. I wish all the families and their loved ones a lot of luck during this "silly season." 🤞⚽🤞
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Post by randomparent on May 8, 2023 8:49:24 GMT -5
So historically, around this time of year (silly season), the following occurs... • It starts innocently, with a parent or family trying to understand the colossal chaos that is youth "travel soccer." • The community rallies and gives lots of very good advice and makes recommendations based on age, location, level, etc. • However, some issues, acts, stories, or reports we all coalesce around and take sides on emerge (UFA director and mass email this year). • The forum grows by approximately 10–15% because of the new accounts created to advance or decry the issue mentioned above. • We’re reminded how this is a for-profit enterprise and nothing about the physical or mental development of our kids. • Someone comes on to remind everyone that we truly have the power as parents (I'll be the first to raise my hand). • Someone else counters and says, "Yeah, right, you no nofing Jon Snow" Parents have no power over club directors (duh). • “Silly Season” is quoted way too much but is aptly appropriate. • A third group tries to get the original post, question, or information request back on track while apologizing for the thread being hijacked. • We get daily and almost live updates on the situation at specific ID camps and tryouts (43.5 girls showed up and only 99.7 boys showed up). • Sadly, some parents and families will realize tryouts for the top teams are a ruse. Teams have already been picked. • Then we get the variation "What's next?" after missing out on the desired outcome for our little ones. • Soon after tryouts conclude, there will be some kind of consensus on which age, team, club, or league came out on top. • Even more "new" accounts will be created to dispute the assertion above that club x, age group y, will win it all in league z. • At the end of a crescendo of posts, comments, hurt feelings, threats, and feel-good stories, we all return to our respective corners and take on the beach life until August. There is still a lot of good advice and well-intentioned people on this forum. Please don't hesitate to use their knowledge and experience to make your journey as fun and painless as possible. I wish all the families and their loved ones a lot of luck during this "silly season." 🤞⚽🤞 Great list, I would add right after tryouts you will hear about "Nationals." Right now the the most successful money grab youth soccer has created in the US. Just saying the word - Nationals. You would almost think means something to someone other than your immediate family. Nationals Nationals Maybe we will hear another word - Showcase Showcase This is a super duper important shooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwcase We are going to naaaaaaaaaaatiooooooooooooonaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalssssssssssssssssssssss |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 8, 2023 9:25:43 GMT -5
So historically, around this time of year (silly season), the following occurs... • It starts innocently, with a parent or family trying to understand the colossal chaos that is youth "travel soccer." • The community rallies and gives lots of very good advice and makes recommendations based on age, location, level, etc. • However, some issues, acts, stories, or reports we all coalesce around and take sides on emerge (UFA director and mass email this year). • The forum grows by approximately 10–15% because of the new accounts created to advance or decry the issue mentioned above. • We’re reminded how this is a for-profit enterprise and nothing about the physical or mental development of our kids. • Someone comes on to remind everyone that we truly have the power as parents (I'll be the first to raise my hand). • Someone else counters and says, "Yeah, right, you no nofing Jon Snow" Parents have no power over club directors (duh). • “Silly Season” is quoted way too much but is aptly appropriate. • A third group tries to get the original post, question, or information request back on track while apologizing for the thread being hijacked. • We get daily and almost live updates on the situation at specific ID camps and tryouts (43.5 girls showed up and only 99.7 boys showed up). • Sadly, some parents and families will realize tryouts for the top teams are a ruse. Teams have already been picked. • Then we get the variation "What's next?" after missing out on the desired outcome for our little ones. • Soon after tryouts conclude, there will be some kind of consensus on which age, team, club, or league came out on top. • Even more "new" accounts will be created to dispute the assertion above that club x, age group y, will win it all in league z. • At the end of a crescendo of posts, comments, hurt feelings, threats, and feel-good stories, we all return to our respective corners and take on the beach life until August. There is still a lot of good advice and well-intentioned people on this forum. Please don't hesitate to use their knowledge and experience to make your journey as fun and painless as possible. I wish all the families and their loved ones a lot of luck during this "silly season." 🤞⚽🤞 I cant get over some of the nonsense that is spewed here with partial truths that is taken as 100% factual just to make one side look better than the other. |
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Post by huckleberry on May 8, 2023 18:38:38 GMT -5
Well, based on the standings in most age groups, it doesn’t look like you have to worry much about losing the matches. Think you guys have that part figured out! Struck a nerve, Huckleberry? Which team beat your kid? You're a little weird to start a new account just to say that. Why not use your actual account and stand behind your odd AFU fixation? Edit: Before this becomes a bigger issue than it needs to be: Say all you want about a club, but to criticize children's playing abilities is a little gross. I would hate for this thread to be shut down. If you're going to continue please PM so that we can keep this thread open for others who would like to continue their civil conversations. No sir, no nerves affected here. Yes I did start an account to comment 👍, I’m pretty sure everyone has to! I was actually on here to read the high school thread but saw this. As far as the email, I haven’t met the guy who everyone is accusing. You won’t catch me on that bandwagon because you know as well as I do, ANYONE could have sent that, it could’ve been someone from AFU to just stir this up. As to questioning a child’s playing ability, that’s a nice try!! The success of a team starts at the top with the director-coach-and in some cases the parents (because they think they run the team) |
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Post by dabe on May 8, 2023 19:54:46 GMT -5
Struck a nerve, Huckleberry? Which team beat your kid? You're a little weird to start a new account just to say that. Why not use your actual account and stand behind your odd AFU fixation? Edit: Before this becomes a bigger issue than it needs to be: Say all you want about a club, but to criticize children's playing abilities is a little gross. I would hate for this thread to be shut down. If you're going to continue please PM so that we can keep this thread open for others who would like to continue their civil conversations. No sir, no nerves affected here. Yes I did start an account to comment 👍, I’m pretty sure everyone has to! I was actually on here to read the high school thread but saw this. As far as the email, I haven’t met the guy who everyone is accusing. You won’t catch me on that bandwagon because you know as well as I do, ANYONE could have sent that, it could’ve been someone from AFU to just stir this up. As to questioning a child’s playing ability, that’s a nice try!! The success of a team starts at the top with the director-coach-and in some cases the parents (because they think they run the team) I'm not concerned about who wrote the email. I don't think James Harris wrote the email. I'm not sure why that was brought up. Anyway, what you said was rude and unnecessary. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that it was a dig at the coaching staff, but please remember that players have access to the internet too. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 8, 2023 21:34:38 GMT -5
Struck a nerve, Huckleberry? Which team beat your kid? You're a little weird to start a new account just to say that. Why not use your actual account and stand behind your odd AFU fixation? Edit: Before this becomes a bigger issue than it needs to be: Say all you want about a club, but to criticize children's playing abilities is a little gross. I would hate for this thread to be shut down. If you're going to continue please PM so that we can keep this thread open for others who would like to continue their civil conversations. No sir, no nerves affected here. Yes I did start an account to comment 👍, I’m pretty sure everyone has to! I was actually on here to read the high school thread but saw this. As far as the email, I haven’t met the guy who everyone is accusing. You won’t catch me on that bandwagon because you know as well as I do, ANYONE could have sent that, it could’ve been someone from AFU to just stir this up. As to questioning a child’s playing ability, that’s a nice try!! The success of a team starts at the top with the director-coach-and in some cases the parents (because they think they run the team) I know with 100% certainty where the email came from. |
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Post by rifle on May 8, 2023 21:39:25 GMT -5
No sir, no nerves affected here. Yes I did start an account to comment 👍, I’m pretty sure everyone has to! I was actually on here to read the high school thread but saw this. As far as the email, I haven’t met the guy who everyone is accusing. You won’t catch me on that bandwagon because you know as well as I do, ANYONE could have sent that, it could’ve been someone from AFU to just stir this up. As to questioning a child’s playing ability, that’s a nice try!! The success of a team starts at the top with the director-coach-and in some cases the parents (because they think they run the team) I know with 100% certainty where the email came from. …so why did you write it? |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 8, 2023 21:57:45 GMT -5
I know with 100% certainty where the email came from. …so why did you write it? Not I. Just view the source code of the email. “The source code of an email will contain the header information for the email and will often include HTML code to style the rest of the message. This means that, by viewing the source code of an email, you can see when you received the message, what server sent it, and lots of other information.” |
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Post by natlfutbol on May 9, 2023 6:13:13 GMT -5
So historically, around this time of year (silly season), the following occurs... • It starts innocently, with a parent or family trying to understand the colossal chaos that is youth "travel soccer." • The community rallies and gives lots of very good advice and makes recommendations based on age, location, level, etc. • However, some issues, acts, stories, or reports we all coalesce around and take sides on emerge (UFA director and mass email this year). • The forum grows by approximately 10–15% because of the new accounts created to advance or decry the issue mentioned above. • We’re reminded how this is a for-profit enterprise and nothing about the physical or mental development of our kids. • Someone comes on to remind everyone that we truly have the power as parents (I'll be the first to raise my hand). • Someone else counters and says, "Yeah, right, you no nofing Jon Snow" Parents have no power over club directors (duh). • “Silly Season” is quoted way too much but is aptly appropriate. • A third group tries to get the original post, question, or information request back on track while apologizing for the thread being hijacked. • We get daily and almost live updates on the situation at specific ID camps and tryouts (43.5 girls showed up and only 99.7 boys showed up). • Sadly, some parents and families will realize tryouts for the top teams are a ruse. Teams have already been picked. • Then we get the variation "What's next?" after missing out on the desired outcome for our little ones. • Soon after tryouts conclude, there will be some kind of consensus on which age, team, club, or league came out on top. • Even more "new" accounts will be created to dispute the assertion above that club x, age group y, will win it all in league z. • At the end of a crescendo of posts, comments, hurt feelings, threats, and feel-good stories, we all return to our respective corners and take on the beach life until August. There is still a lot of good advice and well-intentioned people on this forum. Please don't hesitate to use their knowledge and experience to make your journey as fun and painless as possible. I wish all the families and their loved ones a lot of luck during this "silly season." 🤞⚽🤞 That is a long list/drama.. since i am sort of new, I come here to get a better understanding of the North ATL world of soccer.. All in relation to a 2012b. coaches, teams, pre-ecnl and organization. |
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Post by lovetokickit on May 9, 2023 7:38:29 GMT -5
So historically, around this time of year (silly season), the following occurs... • It starts innocently, with a parent or family trying to understand the colossal chaos that is youth "travel soccer." • The community rallies and gives lots of very good advice and makes recommendations based on age, location, level, etc. • However, some issues, acts, stories, or reports we all coalesce around and take sides on emerge (UFA director and mass email this year). • The forum grows by approximately 10–15% because of the new accounts created to advance or decry the issue mentioned above. • We’re reminded how this is a for-profit enterprise and nothing about the physical or mental development of our kids. • Someone comes on to remind everyone that we truly have the power as parents (I'll be the first to raise my hand). • Someone else counters and says, "Yeah, right, you no nofing Jon Snow" Parents have no power over club directors (duh). • “Silly Season” is quoted way too much but is aptly appropriate. • A third group tries to get the original post, question, or information request back on track while apologizing for the thread being hijacked. • We get daily and almost live updates on the situation at specific ID camps and tryouts (43.5 girls showed up and only 99.7 boys showed up). • Sadly, some parents and families will realize tryouts for the top teams are a ruse. Teams have already been picked. • Then we get the variation "What's next?" after missing out on the desired outcome for our little ones. • Soon after tryouts conclude, there will be some kind of consensus on which age, team, club, or league came out on top. • Even more "new" accounts will be created to dispute the assertion above that club x, age group y, will win it all in league z. • At the end of a crescendo of posts, comments, hurt feelings, threats, and feel-good stories, we all return to our respective corners and take on the beach life until August. There is still a lot of good advice and well-intentioned people on this forum. Please don't hesitate to use their knowledge and experience to make your journey as fun and painless as possible. I wish all the families and their loved ones a lot of luck during this "silly season." 🤞⚽🤞 Great list, I would add right after tryouts you will hear about "Nationals." Right now the the most successful money grab youth soccer has created in the US. Just saying the word - Nationals. You would almost think means something to someone other than your immediate family. Nationals Nationals Maybe we will hear another word - Showcase Showcase This is a super duper important shooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwcase We are going to naaaaaaaaaaatiooooooooooooonaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalssssssssssssssssssssss Cheerleading has WORLDS... Maybe we should create that tournament and make bank?! |
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Post by bogan on May 9, 2023 7:42:42 GMT -5
Great list, I would add right after tryouts you will hear about "Nationals." Right now the the most successful money grab youth soccer has created in the US. Just saying the word - Nationals. You would almost think means something to someone other than your immediate family. Nationals Nationals Maybe we will hear another word - Showcase Showcase This is a super duper important shooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwcase We are going to naaaaaaaaaaatiooooooooooooonaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalssssssssssssssssssssss Cheerleading has WORLDS... Maybe we should create that tournament and make bank?! Let’s just go for it all and create “universe tournament “ 🤣 |
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Post by soccerp77 on May 9, 2023 16:56:26 GMT -5
Hey! Looking for the top soccer club for my son 13 2010. Who has the best club in Atl and or Atl adjacent. One with the win records to match... please and thank you.
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Post by randomparent on May 9, 2023 19:17:32 GMT -5
Hey! Looking for the top soccer club for my son 13 2010. Who has the best club in Atl and or Atl adjacent. One with the win records to match... please and thank you. Depends if having Elite in your league name or MLS is more important to you with your friends and family. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 9, 2023 20:21:00 GMT -5
I am familiar with 2 GA soccer/USYS clubs hosting tryouts NEXT WEEK. This is news to me, i guess they're fallback options for kids who don't make ECNL/GA/ECNLR/DPL rosters?
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Post by Keeper on May 9, 2023 22:17:32 GMT -5
I am familiar with 2 GA soccer/USYS clubs hosting tryouts NEXT WEEK. This is news to me, i guess they're fallback options for kids who don't make ECNL/GA/ECNLR/DPL rosters? Yes GA Soccer moved there’s up a week about 2 years ago to combat SCCL/USClub starting May 1st. |
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Post by rifle on May 10, 2023 4:59:55 GMT -5
…so why did you write it? Not I. Just view the source code of the email. “The source code of an email will contain the header information for the email and will often include HTML code to style the rest of the message. This means that, by viewing the source code of an email, you can see when you received the message, what server sent it, and lots of other information.” I’m certainly curious now. Would you post the header info “for transparency”? |
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Post by diamondmid on May 10, 2023 6:53:14 GMT -5
Not I. Just view the source code of the email. “The source code of an email will contain the header information for the email and will often include HTML code to style the rest of the message. This means that, by viewing the source code of an email, you can see when you received the message, what server sent it, and lots of other information.” I’m certainly curious now. Would you post the header info “for transparency”? I doubt the person knows... email is from "anonymous" and a Google server - source code does not tell you the sender's name. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 10, 2023 8:04:07 GMT -5
I’m certainly curious now. Would you post the header info “for transparency”? I doubt the person knows... email is from "anonymous" and a Google server - source code does not tell you the sender's name. "https://unitedfa.us14.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D6ab2deb75ebdd= 540e42c2ad2f&id=3D7275dc5f95&e=3D674fca9002" title=3D"https://unite= dfa.us14.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D6ab2deb75ebdd540e42c2ad2f&id= =3D7275dc5f95&e=3D674fca9002" As you can see this is in the code showing the server used to manage and track the list |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 10, 2023 8:07:25 GMT -5
I doubt the person knows... email is from "anonymous" and a Google server - source code does not tell you the sender's name. "https://unitedfa.us14.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D6ab2deb75ebdd= 540e42c2ad2f&id=3D7275dc5f95&e=3D674fca9002" title=3D"https://unite= dfa.us14.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D6ab2deb75ebdd540e42c2ad2f&id= =3D7275dc5f95&e=3D674fca9002" As you can see this is in the code showing the server used to manage and track the list While the account might have been "anonymous" they either forgot or were unaware of the embedded tracking of the links in the email. |
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Post by mamadona on May 10, 2023 8:28:28 GMT -5
Isn’t that just info from the links though? Not from who sent it?
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Post by diamondmid on May 10, 2023 8:33:10 GMT -5
Isn’t that just info from the links though? Not from who sent it? UFA Mailchimp email campaign... that's as close as it's going to get. |
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Post by mamadona on May 10, 2023 10:18:29 GMT -5
Isn’t that just info from the links though? Not from who sent it? UFA Mailchimp email campaign... that's as close as it's going to get. Yeah I think you’re right. I found this Whenever someone uses an email service provider to send emails, the service providers replace all the links within the email with their URLs which on click will ultimately be pointing to the original link only. They replace these links with their sub-domain to track the email clicks. |
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Post by cluelessparents on May 10, 2023 10:45:41 GMT -5
UFA Mailchimp email campaign... that's as close as it's going to get. Yeah I think you’re right. I found this Whenever someone uses an email service provider to send emails, the service providers replace all the links within the email with their URLs which on click will ultimately be pointing to the original link only. They replace these links with their sub-domain to track the email clicks. So sleaze balls and idiots. Good combo. Moral to the story go there if you want to chase a title or whatever soccer society deems it but don’t look to get anything else out of it like character or improved skills. |
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Post by bogan on May 10, 2023 12:03:26 GMT -5
Wonder if this was a false flag operation…
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Post by mochiburon on May 10, 2023 12:41:59 GMT -5
mailchimp.com/legal/terms/Just gonna leave the mailchimp Terms of use right here. 17. General Rules By agreeing to these Terms, you promise to follow these rules: You won’t send spam! You won’t use purchased, rented, or third-party lists of email addresses. You’ll comply with our Acceptable Use Policy, which forms part of these Terms. If you use our API, you’ll comply with our API Use Policy, which forms part of these Terms. Mailchimp doesn’t allow accounts that promote or incite harm toward others or that promote discriminatory, hateful, or harassing Content. To this end, we may suspend or terminate your account if you send a Campaign, create or manage a Site, or otherwise distribute any Content that we determine, in our sole discretion, contains either of the following: A Threat of Physical Harm. This means any statement, photograph, advertisement, or other Content that in our sole judgment could be reasonably perceived to threaten, advocate, or incite physical harm to or violence against others. Hateful Content. This means any statement, image, photograph, advertisement, or other Content that in our sole judgment could be reasonably perceived to harm, threaten, promote the harassment of, promote the intimidation of, promote the abuse of, or promote discrimination against others based solely on race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, disease, or immigration status. We also may suspend or terminate your account if we determine, in our sole discretion, that you are either: an organization that has publicly stated or acknowledged that its goals, objectives, positions, or founding tenets include statements or principles that could be reasonably perceived to advocate, encourage, or sponsor Hateful Content or A Threat of Physical Harm; a person that has publicly made a comment or statement, or otherwise publicly made known a position, including by membership in an organization as discussed above, that could be reasonably perceived as Hateful Content or A Threat of Physical Harm; or a person or organization that has acted in such a way as could be reasonably perceived to support, condone, encourage, or represent Hateful Content or A Threat of Physical Harm. Mailchimp also does not allow the distribution of Content that is, in our sole discretion, materially false, inaccurate, or misleading in a way that could deceive or confuse others about important events, topics, or circumstances. Someone at MailChimp would have to weigh in because it is at their "Sole Discretion" if it was sent in bad faith. It also requires an opt in which it sounds like the recipients most definitely did not do. Leaving the "Report Abuse" link here for anyone that actually has the email. There is a spot to paste the email header on this page. mailchimp.com/contact/abuse/
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