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Post by soccerdad16 on May 10, 2023 12:52:32 GMT -5
Inspector, who sent the email, has to be the most idiotic thread on this forum ever. Who cares? Club A recruits early and poaches players. Club B be gets annoyed and responds with a stupid email to parents saying hey are you aware of this? Lets not act like either club is any better. This happens at all of them. Hopefully this thread can get back to answering questions about tryouts and providing some constructive feedback.
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Post by diamondmid on May 10, 2023 13:13:33 GMT -5
Inspector, who sent the email, has to be the most idiotic thread on this forum ever. Who cares? Club A recruits early and poaches players. Club B be gets annoyed and responds with a stupid email to parents saying hey are you aware of this? Lets not act like either club is any better. This happens at all of them. Hopefully this thread can get back to answering questions about tryouts and providing some constructive feedback. Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man. |
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Post by mochiburon on May 10, 2023 14:35:26 GMT -5
Inspector, who sent the email, has to be the most idiotic thread on this forum ever. Who cares? Club A recruits early and poaches players. Club B be gets annoyed and responds with a stupid email to parents saying hey are you aware of this? Lets not act like either club is any better. This happens at all of them. Hopefully this thread can get back to answering questions about tryouts and providing some constructive feedback. Its a bad hi-jack of the thread, fair point. But this thread has been a debate of character since about the 10th post. I think its a bit much to call this email "recruiting" and that it should be played down. I was at a game where one side was justifying dirty play by saying "all of them are making dirty fouls, your players are doing it too" as if that made it okay for any of them. If its true that this happens all the time, everywhere, then in my mind its a signal that its been left unchecked for too long. People are right to be concerned here not because its unprecedented but because its real....now you know. I hope this will cause conversations with club leadership and something good comes out of it. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 17, 2023 12:23:03 GMT -5
I'm looking for thoughts on how to handle this. My son will be a U12 and our plan is to stay with our current club. However, due to some changes at the club it could push people away. I think these are net positive changes so our plan is to stay. However, I want to be prepared with a backup plan in cause people leave. Should I reach out to other clubs and let them know what is going on. With everyone's tryouts the same days it makes it hard to explore your options.
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Post by natlfutbol on May 17, 2023 12:47:31 GMT -5
I'm looking for thoughts on how to handle this. My son will be a U12 and our plan is to stay with our current club. However, due to some changes at the club it could push people away. I think these are net positive changes so our plan is to stay. However, I want to be prepared with a backup plan in cause people leave. Should I reach out to other clubs and let them know what is going on. With everyone's tryouts the same days it makes it hard to explore your options. We are on the same boat. I reached out to couple of coaches from other organizations but never heard back. Following.... |
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Post by randomparent on May 17, 2023 14:16:48 GMT -5
I'm looking for thoughts on how to handle this. My son will be a U12 and our plan is to stay with our current club. However, due to some changes at the club it could push people away. I think these are net positive changes so our plan is to stay. However, I want to be prepared with a backup plan in cause people leave. Should I reach out to other clubs and let them know what is going on. With everyone's tryouts the same days it makes it hard to explore your options. It never hurts but in the future I would start the process a lot sooner next year. The most aggressive thing you can do if your looking at a top team is to see if the club has a history of keeping the coach attached to the team, if yes, hire that coach to do privates with your kid. Get an idea from them after a few weeks where they would fit in at the club. Either stick it out or move on. You could start this whenever for next year and U13. The more typical, less aggressive approach is to ask if your kid can attend a practice. But U12 will have tryouts next week so you missed out on that from a timing perspective unless you can get one in tonight/tomorrow weather permitting. The best last minute thing you might be able to do is some of the clubs might have a development camp or some BS this week you could pay to attend, just make sure the coach you need to connect with will be there and try to connect with them before hand. I would not share anything with new clubs about your old club. No one cares or wants to hear a whiner. Everyone that you are talking to is already taken the youth soccer red pill and understand the game. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 17, 2023 15:30:10 GMT -5
I'm looking for thoughts on how to handle this. My son will be a U12 and our plan is to stay with our current club. However, due to some changes at the club it could push people away. I think these are net positive changes so our plan is to stay. However, I want to be prepared with a backup plan in cause people leave. Should I reach out to other clubs and let them know what is going on. With everyone's tryouts the same days it makes it hard to explore your options. It never hurts but in the future I would start the process a lot sooner next year. The most aggressive thing you can do if your looking at a top team is to see if the club has a history of keeping the coach attached to the team, if yes, hire that coach to do privates with your kid. Get an idea from them after a few weeks where they would fit in at the club. Either stick it out or move on. You could start this whenever for next year and U13. The more typical, less aggressive approach is to ask if your kid can attend a practice. But U12 will have tryouts next week so you missed out on that from a timing perspective unless you can get one in tonight/tomorrow weather permitting. The best last minute thing you might be able to do is some of the clubs might have a development camp or some BS this week you could pay to attend, just make sure the coach you need to connect with will be there and try to connect with them before hand. I would not share anything with new clubs about your old club. No one cares or wants to hear a whiner. Everyone that you are talking to is already taken the youth soccer red pill and understand the game. Agree with all of this. It’s probably too late to really explore another club or team but can’t hurt to try. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 17, 2023 15:33:27 GMT -5
It never hurts but in the future I would start the process a lot sooner next year. The most aggressive thing you can do if your looking at a top team is to see if the club has a history of keeping the coach attached to the team, if yes, hire that coach to do privates with your kid. Get an idea from them after a few weeks where they would fit in at the club. Either stick it out or move on. You could start this whenever for next year and U13. The more typical, less aggressive approach is to ask if your kid can attend a practice. But U12 will have tryouts next week so you missed out on that from a timing perspective unless you can get one in tonight/tomorrow weather permitting. The best last minute thing you might be able to do is some of the clubs might have a development camp or some BS this week you could pay to attend, just make sure the coach you need to connect with will be there and try to connect with them before hand. I would not share anything with new clubs about your old club. No one cares or wants to hear a whiner. Everyone that you are talking to is already taken the youth soccer red pill and understand the game. Agree with all of this. It’s probably too late to really explore another club or team but can’t hurt to try. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 17, 2023 15:34:39 GMT -5
Thanks! We are planning on staying there were just some changes in the last two/three weeks at the culb that made me realize we should have a back up plan.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 17, 2023 16:09:02 GMT -5
Thanks! We are planning on staying there were just some changes in the last two/three weeks at the culb that made me realize we should have a back up plan. If you’re planning to stay then what you should probably spend your time doing is reaching out to the other parents on the team to get a feel for what they’re doing. While some may be less forthcoming than others, you’ll probably get a good sense of what most of the team is doing. And the first night of tryouts will really tell you because that’s usually the night most kids will explore a new club. If pretty much the whole team is there on the first night, you probably have nothing to worry about. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 22, 2023 10:30:05 GMT -5
We are planning on being at two clubs tryouts who don't overlap. Do the clubs though really expect you to be there every day?
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 22, 2023 11:05:52 GMT -5
We are planning on being at two clubs tryouts who don't overlap. Do the clubs though really expect you to be there every day? If you are a top player then you can get away without being there every day, but if you are not then you may lose your spot if you miss a day. The competition for many teams is very strong so they fill spots before tryouts and then fill in their gaps on the first day. By the second day they pretty much have their team. This is true for ECNL, GA, ECRL, DPL, NL Pro, MLSNext. At clubs where something else is their top team it generally applies there too. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 22, 2023 11:07:40 GMT -5
Thanks! my son is younger, will be a u12 next year and a keeper. I'm not sure if that changes anything as it seems everyone always needs keepers.
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Post by NotherSoccerParent on May 22, 2023 14:16:21 GMT -5
Thanks! my son is younger, will be a u12 next year and a keeper. I'm not sure if that changes anything as it seems everyone always needs keepers. It depends on how far down you are willing to fall down the depth chart. At U12, most teams probably still only have one keeper; it’s not until ECNL age that teams will take two keepers. Although not common, older age group teams will sometimes have one keeper if there isn’t a second keeper very close to skill level as the starter. Therefore, you may have little chance of making the top team bc that position is already filled. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 22, 2023 14:53:25 GMT -5
Looks like 3 hours of soccer the next 3 nights for my son. The good news is he will love it.
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Post by mightydawg on May 22, 2023 19:59:52 GMT -5
How was night one of tryouts?
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Post by trollfather on May 22, 2023 20:49:15 GMT -5
CF too soft, so my son is only trying out for AU.
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Post by trollfather on May 22, 2023 20:50:12 GMT -5
Inspector, who sent the email, has to be the most idiotic thread on this forum ever. Who cares? Club A recruits early and poaches players. Club B be gets annoyed and responds with a stupid email to parents saying hey are you aware of this? Lets not act like either club is any better. This happens at all of them. Hopefully this thread can get back to answering questions about tryouts and providing some constructive feedback. Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man. Can't believe this went unacknowledged... What a bunch of uncultured clods on here. |
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Post by newguy on May 22, 2023 21:51:28 GMT -5
Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man. Can't believe this went unacknowledged... What a bunch of uncultured clods on here.  |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 23, 2023 5:56:05 GMT -5
Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man. Can't believe this went unacknowledged... What a bunch of uncultured clods on here. STFU Donny |
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Post by atlantagray on May 23, 2023 6:19:05 GMT -5
Can't believe this went unacknowledged... What a bunch of uncultured clods on here. STFU Donny you're all out of your element |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 23, 2023 7:37:15 GMT -5
How was night one of tryouts? UFA was disappointing. They took their top teams and pulled them aside; everyone else was just being babysat not really watching anything. |
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Post by newathis on May 23, 2023 8:36:46 GMT -5
How was night one of tryouts? I hate this time of year! Too many decisions and too many puzzle pieces. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 23, 2023 8:40:27 GMT -5
The older the age, the fewer spots that are available especially on the top team. Teams improve by bettering the bench and the number is usually 2 to 3 players. In some cases, current players do some recruiting as they know who the top players are.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 23, 2023 9:06:38 GMT -5
The older the age, the fewer spots that are available especially on the top team. Teams improve by bettering the bench and the number is usually 2 to 3 players. In some cases, current players do some recruiting as they know who the top players are. Very true but we are dealing with U14 and below this week. There is a lot of growth both generally and soccer wise at these young ages. Adults need to be smarter and make decisions. Also the lower team kids still matter and many want to get better and move up so a fresh set of eyes should be on them. |
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Post by playfromtheback on May 23, 2023 9:40:18 GMT -5
I am not expecting my son to make their top team. We are coming from a different club and they do not know him. The coach that was "watching" his field was more interested in juggling a ball it seemed than watching what was going on.
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 9:42:05 GMT -5
How was night one of tryouts? UFA was disappointing. They took their top teams and pulled them aside; everyone else was just being babysat not really watching anything. They didn't even play the game of a real tryout for the first 30 minutes? Normally, clubs will have small sided scrimmages for the first 30 minutes or so with everyone mixed up and they will play several games. Then a water break. Then will take the previously identified (weeks ago, not at tryouts) and start grouping them together for small sided scrimmages and sending other kids to other fields for scrimmages. Then another water break. Then larger sided games with too many people in too little of a space. My favorite is 11 v. 11 on a 7 v 7 field. Night 2. Skip the small sided games and just scrimmage with too many people in too little of a space. Coaches mostly on phones. Night 3. Rinse and repeat. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 9:45:01 GMT -5
I am not expecting my son to make their top team. We are coming from a different club and they do not know him. The coach that was "watching" his field was more interested in juggling a ball it seemed than watching what was going on. Got to show the parents that the kids are going to be coached a real soccer player. |
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Post by futbolhero on May 23, 2023 9:51:09 GMT -5
UFA was disappointing. They took their top teams and pulled them aside; everyone else was just being babysat not really watching anything. They didn't even play the game of a real tryout for the first 30 minutes? Normally, clubs will have small sided scrimmages for the first 30 minutes or so with everyone mixed up and they will play several games. Then a water break. Then will take the previously identified (weeks ago, not at tryouts) and start grouping them together for small sided scrimmages and sending other kids to other fields for scrimmages. Then another water break. Then larger sided games with too many people in too little of a space. My favorite is 11 v. 11 on a 7 v 7 field. Night 2. Skip the small sided games and just scrimmage with too many people in too little of a space. Coaches mostly on phones. Night 3. Rinse and repeat. A lot of people give AFU grief but if they put their inflated egos aside and came out they would be surprised at what they see. Last night the first 15-20 mins were stretching then they were split into 5 teams of 12. They teams rotated field to field with the keepers staying put. The teams were sorted by 1-2-3-4-5 so all players of all skill level were blended. Sure some teams were stronger than others but it was not intentional. Anywhere from 3-4 coaches were on each field evaluating players. It would be nice if people with their inflated egos and pride took the time to see what else is out there instead of continuing to drink the Kool-Aid of these other places. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 10:05:19 GMT -5
They didn't even play the game of a real tryout for the first 30 minutes? Normally, clubs will have small sided scrimmages for the first 30 minutes or so with everyone mixed up and they will play several games. Then a water break. Then will take the previously identified (weeks ago, not at tryouts) and start grouping them together for small sided scrimmages and sending other kids to other fields for scrimmages. Then another water break. Then larger sided games with too many people in too little of a space. My favorite is 11 v. 11 on a 7 v 7 field. Night 2. Skip the small sided games and just scrimmage with too many people in too little of a space. Coaches mostly on phones. Night 3. Rinse and repeat. A lot of people give AFU grief but if they put their inflated egos aside and came out they would be surprised at what they see. Last night the first 15-20 mins were stretching then they were split into 5 teams of 12. They teams rotated field to field with the keepers staying put. The teams were sorted by 1-2-3-4-5 so all players of all skill level were blended. Sure some teams were stronger than others but it was not intentional. Anywhere from 3-4 coaches were on each field evaluating players. It would be nice if people with their inflated egos and pride took the time to see what else is out there instead of continuing to drink the Kool-Aid of these other places. Glad that you had a good experience with AFU. What age group were you watching last night? Who is the top team head coach? I have been to AFU ID camps and tryouts in previous years. How the ID camp and tryout are run are very dependent on the coach of the top team. I have seen it just as you described; I have seen it where the head guy already has his team set and leaves after 20 or 30 minutes; and I have seen it where they immediately break kids up into to perceived teams. Like most clubs, it all depends on who the coach is going to be. |
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