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Post by fanatic21 on Mar 1, 2024 13:21:09 GMT -5
I believe scoreboard simply ranks by record. Max Preps at least tries to use a strength of schedule component. Early season thought the strength of schedule doesn't mean as much as it does once region games are being played. Pretty sure coaches actually vote on the scoreboard rankings. |
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Post by surgesoccer on Mar 9, 2024 14:07:11 GMT -5
I believe scoreboard simply ranks by record. Max Preps at least tries to use a strength of schedule component. Early season thought the strength of schedule doesn't mean as much as it does once region games are being played. Pretty sure coaches actually vote on the scoreboard rankings. That would be cool if they are, but other than reputation not sure how much they are paying attention to teams not on the schedule. Guess it really doesn't matter anyway as playoff seedings are already set based on which region you are in what place your finish in. |
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Post by ibisduck on Mar 11, 2024 13:05:06 GMT -5
Northgate Girls beat McIntosh 4-2 Double OT in the pouring rain Friday Night......Play Chamblee tonight
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Post by 04gparent on Mar 12, 2024 16:03:46 GMT -5
There are some big games tonight featureing ranked teams
1. Harrison(#1) AT Hillgrove(#9) @ 8pm. - These 2 teams are bitter rivals. Harrison will be missing some players due to GA Champions League. Should be fun to watch
2. 7A vs 4A, West Forsyth(#3) vs Westminster(#1 in 4A). Both teams are undefeated on the year. Should be a great game.
3. North Gwinnett(#5) vs Norcross(#5) - I dont know much about the two teams but both are undefeated in region and the winner will likely determine region championship
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Mar 12, 2024 22:58:33 GMT -5
There are some big games tonight featureing ranked teams 1. Harrison(#1) AT Hillgrove(#9) @ 8pm. - These 2 teams are bitter rivals. Harrison will be missing some players due to GA Champions League. Should be fun to watch 2. 7A vs 4A, West Forsyth(#3) vs Westminster(#1 in 4A). Both teams are undefeated on the year. Should be a great game. 3. North Gwinnett(#5) vs Norcross(#5) - I dont know much about the two teams but both are undefeated in region and the winner will likely determine region championship 1. Hillgrove 4-1….seems like an upset guess missing players were key 2. West Forsyth v Westminster 4-4…sounds like a good time was had 3. North Gwinnett 3-0…North Gwinnett controls their own destiny in region with a convincing win |
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Post by stevenatscorbord on Mar 13, 2024 14:15:28 GMT -5
Pretty sure coaches actually vote on the scoreboard rankings. That would be cool if they are, but other than reputation not sure how much they are paying attention to teams not on the schedule. Guess it really doesn't matter anyway as playoff seedings are already set based on which region you are in what place your finish in. Hey, y'all! I had to come check things out when gasoccerforum.com showed up in our GoogleAnalytics! Love seeing the conversation in here and I'm impressed with how this group seems to be really plugged into high school soccer (especially around my old stomping grounds in south Forsyth County)! Wanted to just drop a quick word of appreciation and offer a little extra info on the Scorbord rankings. You're correct, fanatic21, that the rankings are 100% the result of coaches votes each week. We've got over 210 current, active head coaches involved in the Georgia Coaches Polls this season! And you're also correct, surgesoccer, that early on it is a crapshoot that probably does lean heavy on reputation. I think we're starting to "hit our stride" (Week 4/5) with enough games in the books to have a good sense of where things stand. The Scorbord platform does make it easy for each Ranking Committee Member to check out the team's "resume" as they're adding or reordering teams in their ballot but until that resume is filled in, it does lean a bit on reputation. I'm just glad that the kids and coaches hard work on the field is generating good, fun conversation and I'm humbled that Scorbord helps facilitate that just a bit with the site and the Coaches Poll Rankings! Y'all are literally part of what I described in this article! Also, this was eye opening to realize that it is not 100% clear that the rankings are actually coaches poll rankings, not just some dude at a computer. So thank you for that! All the best, |
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Post by Respect on Mar 13, 2024 20:58:18 GMT -5
That would be cool if they are, but other than reputation not sure how much they are paying attention to teams not on the schedule. Guess it really doesn't matter anyway as playoff seedings are already set based on which region you are in what place your finish in. Hey, y'all! I had to come check things out when gasoccerforum.com showed up in our GoogleAnalytics! Love seeing the conversation in here and I'm impressed with how this group seems to be really plugged into high school soccer (especially around my old stomping grounds in south Forsyth County)! Wanted to just drop a quick word of appreciation and offer a little extra info on the Scorbord rankings. You're correct, fanatic21, that the rankings are 100% the result of coaches votes each week. We've got over 210 current, active head coaches involved in the Georgia Coaches Polls this season! And you're also correct, surgesoccer, that early on it is a crapshoot that probably does lean heavy on reputation. I think we're starting to "hit our stride" (Week 4/5) with enough games in the books to have a good sense of where things stand. The Scorbord platform does make it easy for each Ranking Committee Member to check out the team's "resume" as they're adding or reordering teams in their ballot but until that resume is filled in, it does lean a bit on reputation. I'm just glad that the kids and coaches hard work on the field is generating good, fun conversation and I'm humbled that Scorbord helps facilitate that just a bit with the site and the Coaches Poll Rankings! Y'all are literally part of what I described in this article! Also, this was eye opening to realize that it is not 100% clear that the rankings are actually coaches poll rankings, not just some dude at a computer. So thank you for that! All the best, Typically the HS coaches of the 20+ top ranked teams in each classification are well versed on the most valuable , impactful players on other teams’ rosters as well as other teams’ coaches, tactics, and playing style. Plus they share notes and film throughout the season. |
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Post by stevenatscorbord on Mar 13, 2024 21:56:10 GMT -5
Hey, y'all! I had to come check things out when gasoccerforum.com showed up in our GoogleAnalytics! Love seeing the conversation in here and I'm impressed with how this group seems to be really plugged into high school soccer (especially around my old stomping grounds in south Forsyth County)! Wanted to just drop a quick word of appreciation and offer a little extra info on the Scorbord rankings. You're correct, fanatic21, that the rankings are 100% the result of coaches votes each week. We've got over 210 current, active head coaches involved in the Georgia Coaches Polls this season! And you're also correct, surgesoccer, that early on it is a crapshoot that probably does lean heavy on reputation. I think we're starting to "hit our stride" (Week 4/5) with enough games in the books to have a good sense of where things stand. The Scorbord platform does make it easy for each Ranking Committee Member to check out the team's "resume" as they're adding or reordering teams in their ballot but until that resume is filled in, it does lean a bit on reputation. I'm just glad that the kids and coaches hard work on the field is generating good, fun conversation and I'm humbled that Scorbord helps facilitate that just a bit with the site and the Coaches Poll Rankings! Y'all are literally part of what I described in this article! Also, this was eye opening to realize that it is not 100% clear that the rankings are actually coaches poll rankings, not just some dude at a computer. So thank you for that! All the best, Typically the HS coaches of the 20+ top ranked teams in each classification are well versed on the most valuable , impactful players on other teams’ rosters as well as other teams’ coaches, tactics, and playing style. Plus they share notes and film throughout the season. That's a little generous but you're still correct that the top coaches have a good feel for "the field" for the most part. Although, candidly, they're usually mostly focused on getting the most out of their own team and the day-to-day demands of managing it while also running a classroom. |
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Post by thatonekeeper28 on Mar 14, 2024 6:43:59 GMT -5
Have any of y'all seen Carly Bramwell play for South Forsyth High School? She is a 10th grader but she made the all-state team last year as a freshman. I'd highly recommend going to a South Forsyth game if you have the opportunity if you are looking to scout, she's #18.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 14, 2024 7:52:55 GMT -5
Have any of y'all seen Carly Bramwell play for South Forsyth High School? She is a 10th grader but she made the all-state team last year as a freshman. I'd highly recommend going to a South Forsyth game if you have the opportunity if you are looking to scout, she's #18. My daughter has faced her in club games, not HS, but yes she’s pretty damn good. Her club team scores a lot of goals and she’s a big reason why. |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Mar 14, 2024 11:38:20 GMT -5
There are some big games tonight featureing ranked teams 1. Harrison(#1) AT Hillgrove(#9) @ 8pm. - These 2 teams are bitter rivals. Harrison will be missing some players due to GA Champions League. Should be fun to watch 2. 7A vs 4A, West Forsyth(#3) vs Westminster(#1 in 4A). Both teams are undefeated on the year. Should be a great game. 3. North Gwinnett(#5) vs Norcross(#5) - I dont know much about the two teams but both are undefeated in region and the winner will likely determine region championship 1. Hillgrove 4-1….seems like an upset guess missing players were key 2. West Forsyth v Westminster 4-4…sounds like a good time was had 3. North Gwinnett 3-0…North Gwinnett controls their own destiny in region with a convincing win West Forsyth vs Westminster was a fun one... lots of good goals and could have gone either way at the end. My sense was that both teams have weaknesses but could be great on any given day. Ref had his hands full and was a little inconsistent, which led to a lot of parents/coaches yelling, but the girls on both sides played hard start to finish. |
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Post by diamondmid on Mar 14, 2024 12:33:22 GMT -5
That would be cool if they are, but other than reputation not sure how much they are paying attention to teams not on the schedule. Guess it really doesn't matter anyway as playoff seedings are already set based on which region you are in what place your finish in. Hey, y'all! I had to come check things out when gasoccerforum.com showed up in our GoogleAnalytics! Love seeing the conversation in here and I'm impressed with how this group seems to be really plugged into high school soccer (especially around my old stomping grounds in south Forsyth County)! Wanted to just drop a quick word of appreciation and offer a little extra info on the Scorbord rankings. You're correct, fanatic21 , that the rankings are 100% the result of coaches votes each week. We've got over 210 current, active head coaches involved in the Georgia Coaches Polls this season! And you're also correct, surgesoccer , that early on it is a crapshoot that probably does lean heavy on reputation. I think we're starting to "hit our stride" (Week 4/5) with enough games in the books to have a good sense of where things stand. The Scorbord platform does make it easy for each Ranking Committee Member to check out the team's "resume" as they're adding or reordering teams in their ballot but until that resume is filled in, it does lean a bit on reputation. I'm just glad that the kids and coaches hard work on the field is generating good, fun conversation and I'm humbled that Scorbord helps facilitate that just a bit with the site and the Coaches Poll Rankings! Y'all are literally part of what I described in this article! Also, this was eye opening to realize that it is not 100% clear that the rankings are actually coaches poll rankings, not just some dude at a computer. So thank you for that! All the best, Not to discount coaches' opinions but there may be some glad-handing going on when ranking teams as well. I don't know if strength of schedule is coming into play in the polling - you have ranked teams with good looking records but you look at their schedule and they aren't playing anyone. If you're beating teams with losing records and losing to the few you've played that have winning records, then how good are you really?? But hey, you've got a winning record. There isn't a fool-proof method for ranking these HS programs so ScorBord is probably the best at what's out there. |
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Post by stevenatscorbord on Mar 14, 2024 13:07:29 GMT -5
Hey, y'all! I had to come check things out when gasoccerforum.com showed up in our GoogleAnalytics! Love seeing the conversation in here and I'm impressed with how this group seems to be really plugged into high school soccer (especially around my old stomping grounds in south Forsyth County)! Wanted to just drop a quick word of appreciation and offer a little extra info on the Scorbord rankings. You're correct, fanatic21 , that the rankings are 100% the result of coaches votes each week. We've got over 210 current, active head coaches involved in the Georgia Coaches Polls this season! And you're also correct, surgesoccer , that early on it is a crapshoot that probably does lean heavy on reputation. I think we're starting to "hit our stride" (Week 4/5) with enough games in the books to have a good sense of where things stand. The Scorbord platform does make it easy for each Ranking Committee Member to check out the team's "resume" as they're adding or reordering teams in their ballot but until that resume is filled in, it does lean a bit on reputation. I'm just glad that the kids and coaches hard work on the field is generating good, fun conversation and I'm humbled that Scorbord helps facilitate that just a bit with the site and the Coaches Poll Rankings! Y'all are literally part of what I described in this article! Also, this was eye opening to realize that it is not 100% clear that the rankings are actually coaches poll rankings, not just some dude at a computer. So thank you for that! All the best, Not to discount coaches' opinions but there may be some glad-handing going on when ranking teams as well. I don't know if strength of schedule is coming into play in the polling - you have ranked teams with good looking records but you look at their schedule and they aren't playing anyone. If you're beating teams with losing records and losing to the few you've played that have winning records, then how good are you really?? But hey, you've got a winning record. There isn't a fool-proof method for ranking these HS programs so ScorBord is probably the best at what's out there. Thank you for that! I'll relay to the Ranking Committees (Coaches) your vote of confidence! They'll love that! I'll let you know that we try to reiterate as often as possible that the Ranking Committee Members need to dig in a little further than the W-L record and our Ranking Committee Dashboard makes it easy for them to do that! It's super lazy to live by the "you are what your record says you are" mantra and we're trying to inspire the voting members to go beyond that. The beautiful part about having a statistically significant voting group is that glad-handing or favoritism gets absorbed and its impact is more or less mitigated when you have enough votes. Also, we have a Coach serving as the Ranking Committee Chairperson for each Poll who has the responsibility of reviewing the ballots and, if one is found to be "way out-of-line", they can return it to the voter for adjustment. (This is only used for the insane cases like voting your whole region 1-8 or all zero-win teams in the Top 10). So far the setup has done pretty well and the coaches and chairs have operated with pretty good integrity and fairness, in my opinion! And just like you mentioned, I think it's important for everyone to keep in mind that the rankings are indeed the results of coaches collective opinions. Ultimately it's to give 'em something to talk about. BTW, I've got some future ideas for coming up with a strength of schedule slash strength of record in a way that would be pretty cool (and would still rely on coaches input, of course!) |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Mar 19, 2024 7:00:14 GMT -5
Does anyone know why it looks like Milton won’t play Denmark?
Aren’t you suppose to play everyone in your conference?
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Mar 19, 2024 10:57:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know why it looks like Milton won’t play Denmark? Aren’t you suppose to play everyone in your conference? That is very odd. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 19, 2024 11:23:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know why it looks like Milton won’t play Denmark? Aren’t you suppose to play everyone in your conference? Unless I'm reading it incorrectly, Denmark beat Milton 1-0 last Thursday (3/14). It appears the game was played @ Milton. |
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Post by maze on Mar 19, 2024 12:48:07 GMT -5
Does anyone know why it looks like Milton won’t play Denmark? Aren’t you suppose to play everyone in your conference? Unless I'm reading it incorrectly, Denmark beat Milton 1-0 last Thursday (3/14). It appears the game was played @ Milton. Yep, that's what I saw too |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Mar 19, 2024 12:51:35 GMT -5
Ok i missed that. I didnt see Denmark or Lambert on their schedule but i could have seen an outdated one..
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Mar 19, 2024 12:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Mar 19, 2024 14:40:23 GMT -5
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Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 20, 2024 5:45:51 GMT -5
www.scorbord.com/teams/667790They play @ Lambert on Friday. I use MaxPreps for High School Football and other sports, but I use ScorBord for soccer.
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Post by futbolfan1 on Mar 25, 2024 12:03:00 GMT -5
Game of the Year, April 5th Buford @ Jefferson. Played at UGA Turner Complex.
Also same night different location BIG GAME, Marist @ Westminster.
Also some good games coming up as well, but these games take the cake.
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Post by cluelessparents on Mar 25, 2024 13:29:04 GMT -5
Game of the Year, April 5th Buford @ Jefferson. Played at UGA Turner Complex. Also same night different location BIG GAME, Marist @ Westminster. Also some good games coming up as well, but these games take the cake. What happened in Oklahoma? Did westminster travel with their full squad? |
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Post by cluelessparents on Mar 25, 2024 13:33:53 GMT -5
Game of the Year, April 5th Buford @ Jefferson. Played at UGA Turner Complex. Also same night different location BIG GAME, Marist @ Westminster. Also some good games coming up as well, but these games take the cake. My prediction Buford by 2+ and Marist by 1-2. Looking forward to see how they play out. |
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Post by maze on Mar 25, 2024 14:09:26 GMT -5
Game of the Year, April 5th Buford @ Jefferson. Played at UGA Turner Complex. Also same night different location BIG GAME, Marist @ Westminster. Also some good games coming up as well, but these games take the cake. What happened in Oklahoma? Did westminster travel with their full squad? Unfortunately, I think Westminster came back with a number of injuries. |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Mar 25, 2024 18:26:57 GMT -5
What happened in Oklahoma? Did westminster travel with their full squad? Unfortunately, I think Westminster came back with a number of injuries. This is true. They won the first game but got banged up. After a close second game (which they lost 2-1 after an unlucky own goal and a banger free kick from 40 yards away), reserves played a great deal in game 3. Wouldn't read too much into results from Game 2 and 3. |
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Post by soccerprof1 on Mar 25, 2024 20:53:18 GMT -5
Game of the Year, April 5th Buford @ Jefferson. Played at UGA Turner Complex. Also same night different location BIG GAME, Marist @ Westminster. Also some good games coming up as well, but these games take the cake. My prediction Buford by 2+ and Marist by 1-2. Looking forward to see how they play out. |
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Post by soccerprof1 on Mar 25, 2024 21:01:11 GMT -5
Game of the Year, April 5th Buford @ Jefferson. Played at UGA Turner Complex. Also same night different location BIG GAME, Marist @ Westminster. Also some good games coming up as well, but these games take the cake. My prediction Buford by 2+ and Marist by 1-2. Looking forward to see how they play out. I think Buford/Jefferson will be tight. Buford is always solid because they are Buford. Saw one half of the Jefferson/Loganville game and Jefferson is solid from the midfield to the GK who made several “not so routine” saves. They can fly at the top as well. Both teams are scoring machines and given up a combined 3 goals. MaxPreps has Jefferson with the higher strength of schedule. Will it be televised? |
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Post by futbolfan1 on Mar 26, 2024 9:18:13 GMT -5
Crazy schedules and other good games coming up for girls. Remaining schedules that will test schools:
1) Starr's Mill (12-0-1) Schedule: vs McIntosh 3/28, vs Southeast Whitfield 4/5, vs Northgate 4/9, & @ Harrison 4/12
2) Lovett (11-0) Schedule: vs Pace 3/28, vs Holy Innocents 4/3, & vs GAC 4/11
3) Harrison (12-1) Schedule: vs Hillgrove 3/29 (rematch, only loss on the year to Hillgrove), @ Johns Creek 4/9, & vs Starr's Mill 4/12
4) Marist (11-0) Schedule: vs Walton 3/26, @ Westminster 4/5, vs Brookwood 4/9, & @ Midtown 4/12
5) Walton (8-3-1) Schedule: @ Marist 3/26, vs Pope 4/9, & @ Westminster 4/12
6) Westminster (10-2-2) Schedule: vs Druid Hills 3/28, vs Marist 4/5, & vs Walton 4/12
A lot of other good games coming up:
Norcross @ Campbell 3/26
Roswell vs Johns Creek 3/26
North Oconee @ Cherokee Bluff 3/28
Lambert @ West Forsyth 3/28
Wesleyan vs Lumpkin County 3/28
Mt Paran vs Walker School 3/28
Allatoona vs Northwest Whitfield 3/29
Buford @ Jefferson 4/5 (GOY) UGA Turner Complex
Denmark @ Cambridge 4/9
Loganville vs Oconee County 4/9
Social Circle vs Jackson County 4/10
East Laurens @ Fitzgerald 4/10
Social Circle vs Dutchtown 4/12
Lassiter vs North Atl 4/12
Jefferson vs North Oconee 4/12
Lambert @ Northgate 4/12
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Post by nole95 on Mar 29, 2024 13:01:34 GMT -5
Have any of y'all seen Carly Bramwell play for South Forsyth High School? She is a 10th grader but she made the all-state team last year as a freshman. I'd highly recommend going to a South Forsyth game if you have the opportunity if you are looking to scout, she's #18. For whatever reason, South just cannot seem to get over the hump in their region. After a good start to the season, they have proceeded to lose every region game this year. In addition to Bramwell, they have two college commits in their midfield. Unlike previous years, they did play Central, Lambert and Denmark very tough, and lost what most would consider heartbreakers. They lost to Central in PKs and gave up the game winner against Lambert off a corner in the final 30 seconds. West is obviously very good this year, so that loss is excusable. Then they finished it off last night by getting shut out by Milton. They just can't seem to get that signature win in or out of region play. It has been this way for them for a while now. |
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