University of Georgia Soccer

Looks like BL will not be fired. He will be representing UGA at the college showcase in Raleigh starting tomorrow. I doubt they would send him if they were going to let him go.

Not sure I agree with the word “good”

is this the year?
UGA currently sits a top the SEC-east with 4 points, after beating South Carolina and getting a tie @ Florida.
A result against the VOLS tonight could be huge for them.

Interesting thread, just read the whole thing. I've wondered the same about UGA soccer - why aren't we better? Anyway, I have noticed a solid start to the season, so hopefully it's not fool's gold. Go Dawgs.

Money, plain & simple.  If they add soccer, they'd have to do it for both men and women to stay in compliance with Title IX.  And quite frankly the last 15-20 years has not been good for them financially in their athletic department.

You said girls and GT in the same sentence.  Funny.

Rolling....

Wow, okay - not sure what prompted the jackass reply but whatever.

The point was that if GT is currently in compliance with Title IX, the only way they could add a sport like soccer is to add another sport/team for the opposite sex that keeps them in compliance with Title IX.  Presumably if they were to add women's soccer, you'd think they'd go ahead and add men's soccer too since they could save $$ on facilities by sharing fields, equipment, etc.  I never stated that adding a sport for one sex means you must add that same sport for the opposite sex.

i think it's something with the proportion of scholarships need to be similar to the proportions of your undergrad enrollment.


yea found that here:
An institution must meet all of the following requirements in order to be in compliance with Title IX:

For participation requirements, institutions officials must meet one of the following three tests. An institution may:
Provide participation opportunities for women and men that are substantially proportionate to their respective rates of enrollment of full-time undergraduate students;
Demonstrate a history and continuing practice of program expansion for the underrepresented sex;

Fully and effectively accommodate the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex; and,

Female and male student-athletes must receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation; and,

Equal treatment of female and male student-athletes in the eleven provisions as mentioned above.
www.ncaa.org/about/resources/inclusion/title-ix-frequently-asked-questions#athletics

Dunwoodysoccerdad, I’m sorry, I was born this way. Snark and Schadenfreude are life-long afflictions. But the first step is to admit one has a problem, right. We good?

Ok now back to TIX. In almost every school that offers football there are FAR more men’s scholarships than women’s. UGA is a prime example. It’s been a while since I looked but the numbers are out there. Way more male Dawgs in total. Outside of football of course there are way more Lady Dawgs.

Second, they do not have to have scholarships in proportion to their student body. Again look at UGA, who has a much higher female student body percentage. How do these schools get around the rule? Someone pointed out the different rules. One says something like meaningful advances in women’s opportunity. So in 1970, UGA had zero women’s scholarships and now we have 200. That’s progress! Box checked. Another is offering programs that meet the interest of the student body. A few well placed surveys here and there that show that only X% of women want to play a sport and that’s another box checked.

Lastly and I’ll get off my horse, is the need for TIX at all anymore. It was passed when there was 57% male student body. That was a ‘national emergency’ as Sen Bayh once said. Now there is 57% female student body. No national emergency to get more males into college. Also, when passed, there were 294K girls playing HS sports. Now there are over 3.2M. That is serious legitimate progress. I have a girl and a boy. The girl is now playing college sports. During recruiting colleges were desperate to find girls to play. Do you have a pair of cleats and can you fit into our uniform? You’re in. (This is more snark, sorry). My son on the other hand does play football but he is too ***** and skinny for that to be his thing in college (same thing for soccer). That’s why he plays lacrosse now, plus he enjoys it.

Ok that’s it. Enjoy or dislike as you will.

Interesting side note: a non-insignificant piece of TIX case law, decided unanimously by SCOTUS, involved a case out of Gwinnett County High School (Go Dawgs!). So hey we’re famous (or infamous).

I don’t look at it all that often TBH. But I just pulled up NCAA scholys allowed. Football and basketball are head count sports meaning everyone gets a full ride. The rest of men’s are equivalency sports meaning they can be split. Women’s full ride sports are b-ball, gymnastics, volleyball and tennis. The rest are equivalency. But many of these are full too. There are 14 women’s swim schollys and 18 on a team (plus walkons). So almost everyone is full ride. The equestrian you mention is 15, so a lot of walk ons there. I hope if you’re rich enough to own a horse that you can afford college.

But this pretty much proves my point. I said outside of football there are more Lady Dawgs than Dawgs There are 8 men’s sports and 11 women’s. And those women’s sports are funded at a higher level. 8 women’s tennis schollys, 4 men’s. And so on. Plus add all the women’s only sports like the aforementioned equestrian, beach volleyball, field hockey, water polo, etc and the gap grows wider. Outside of football there are 149 men’s schollys, add football (FBS) and men’s is up to 234. There are 244 women’s. Not sure how many more walk on but I suspect it is higher in men’s.

Sorry I got off from your original point but I took it and ran. Did I mention topic creep as one of my afflictions?

How can you file a discrimination lawsuit when the same thing happened to the males?