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Post by mistergrinch on Apr 1, 2020 13:33:05 GMT -5
It doesn't help the situation that Gwinnett county won't turf pinckneyville park -- at least a single field would make a huge difference. Major plug to UFA, their DA teams do not miss training sessions due to weather --- (advantage for sure of playing DA -- all training sessions occur and typically are the full regularly schedule training sessions of 1.5 hours) Not just DA.. almost none of the academy/select teams miss practices. Unless there is lightning or it's just NASTY out, they practice. |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2020 14:03:35 GMT -5
It doesn't help the situation that Gwinnett county won't turf pinckneyville park -- at least a single field would make a huge difference. Major plug to UFA, their DA teams do not miss training sessions due to weather --- (advantage for sure of playing DA -- all training sessions occur and typically are the full regularly schedule training sessions of 1.5 hours) With all the other fields and parks that need work in Gwinnett, Pinckneyville doenst need to be turfed. It’s a top notch park already and there’s no need for the “rich” to get any richer while other parks and clubs suffer in Gwinnett. There’s already at least half a dozen parks in Gwinnett that have been on the list to be turfed or grass fields built for over 6 years now. |
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Post by messindreams on Apr 1, 2020 14:57:53 GMT -5
It doesn't help the situation that Gwinnett county won't turf pinckneyville park -- at least a single field would make a huge difference. Major plug to UFA, their DA teams do not miss training sessions due to weather --- (advantage for sure of playing DA -- all training sessions occur and typically are the full regularly schedule training sessions of 1.5 hours) UFA Boys DA trains at Norcross facilities. Summerour middle school is turf fields where some Norcross teams practice. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 1, 2020 15:48:37 GMT -5
It doesn't help the situation that Gwinnett county won't turf pinckneyville park -- at least a single field would make a huge difference. Major plug to UFA, their DA teams do not miss training sessions due to weather --- (advantage for sure of playing DA -- all training sessions occur and typically are the full regularly schedule training sessions of 1.5 hours) With all the other fields and parks that need work in Gwinnett, Pinckneyville doenst need to be turfed. It’s a top notch park already and there’s no need for the “rich” to get any richer while other parks and clubs suffer in Gwinnett. There’s already at least half a dozen parks in Gwinnett that have been on the list to be turfed or grass fields built for over 6 years now. UFA offered to pay and if you had to experience field 3 after a sizable drizzle, you'd agree that at the very least it should be turfed...  |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2020 19:23:51 GMT -5
With all the other fields and parks that need work in Gwinnett, Pinckneyville doenst need to be turfed. It’s a top notch park already and there’s no need for the “rich” to get any richer while other parks and clubs suffer in Gwinnett. There’s already at least half a dozen parks in Gwinnett that have been on the list to be turfed or grass fields built for over 6 years now. UFA offered to pay and if you had to experience field 3 after a sizable drizzle, you'd agree that at the very least it should be turfed... So? If they want a turf field then they should go find another Summerour type location. Or share Pinckneyville with other clubs. Either way as a Gwinnett tax payer I’m tired of seeing only North/Rich Gwinnett parks getting updated or built. If Ufa has money to turf fields then they should go buy the land and do it. But considering they’re people within the Gwinnett Co Parks Dept. that are ready to throw Ufa out of the county facilities they should be happy they have what they have. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 1, 2020 19:27:40 GMT -5
UFA offered to pay and if you had to experience field 3 after a sizable drizzle, you'd agree that at the very least it should be turfed... So? If they want a turf field then they should go find another Summerour type location. Or share Pinckneyville with other clubs. Either way as a Gwinnett tax payer I’m tired of seeing only North/Rich Gwinnett parks getting updated or built. If Ufa has money to turf fields then they should go buy the land and do it. But considering they’re people within the Gwinnett Co Parks Dept. that are ready to throw Ufa out of the county facilities they should be happy they have what they have. I'm curious as to why they would want to throw UFA out of their county parks? Could you provide some insight? Thnx... |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2020 19:52:47 GMT -5
So? If they want a turf field then they should go find another Summerour type location. Or share Pinckneyville with other clubs. Either way as a Gwinnett tax payer I’m tired of seeing only North/Rich Gwinnett parks getting updated or built. If Ufa has money to turf fields then they should go buy the land and do it. But considering they’re people within the Gwinnett Co Parks Dept. that are ready to throw Ufa out of the county facilities they should be happy they have what they have. I'm curious as to why they would want to throw UFA out of their county parks? Could you provide some insight? Thnx... Per our County supervisor, Ufa does not like to share or allow anyone to use the fields when they aren’t there. As the county is allowed to rent the fields out when Ufa isn’t using them but Ufa continues to insist they use them 24/7. They also did not pay the out of county fee for multiple players/teams and then tried to hide it. Anyone that lives outside of Gwinnett is suppose to pay a $90 a season tax to use the facilities, this goes for all Gwinnett organizations. Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park, and with Ufa Lawrenceville fighting to take complete control over Rhodes Jordan that is technically infringing on that rule with Ufa already having Pinckneyville. Same reason gsa is having issues now that they took over Dacula/Rabbit Hill and are also wanting Rhodes Jordan. It’s one helluva mess as the Parks Dept is very split, like all politics in Gwinnett, nearly 50/50 so it just depends on who stays in charge over the coming years. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 1, 2020 19:57:04 GMT -5
Wasnt it Forsyth county that turfed their own county parks? UFA just reaped the rewards, right?
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Post by messindreams on Apr 1, 2020 20:00:35 GMT -5
Wasnt it Forsyth county that turfed their own county parks? UFA just reaped the rewards, right? Isn’t it the morons at Gwinnett county that didn’t let AFU repair broken sprinklers at Scott Hudgens? Jump Jump, Doesn’t AFU have George Pierce and Scott Hudgens? |
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Post by socceristhebest on Apr 1, 2020 20:17:06 GMT -5
I'm curious as to why they would want to throw UFA out of their county parks? Could you provide some insight? Thnx... Per our County supervisor, Ufa does not like to share or allow anyone to use the fields when they aren’t there. As the county is allowed to rent the fields out when Ufa isn’t using them but Ufa continues to insist they use them 24/7. They also did not pay the out of county fee for multiple players/teams and then tried to hide it. Anyone that lives outside of Gwinnett is suppose to pay a $90 a season tax to use the facilities, this goes for all Gwinnett organizations. Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park, and with Ufa Lawrenceville fighting to take complete control over Rhodes Jordan that is technically infringing on that rule with Ufa already having Pinckneyville. Same reason gsa is having issues now that they took over Dacula/Rabbit Hill and are also wanting Rhodes Jordan. It’s one helluva mess as the Parks Dept is very split, like all politics in Gwinnett, nearly 50/50 so it just depends on who stays in charge over the coming years. Years ago we heard about the legendary Gwinnett by law “Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park...” - was an issue when norcross started using cemetery. Is the rule documented in any official Gwinnett codes and/or regulations? |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2020 21:20:03 GMT -5
Wasnt it Forsyth county that turfed their own county parks? UFA just reaped the rewards, right? Isn’t it the morons at Gwinnett county that didn’t let AFU repair broken sprinklers at Scott Hudgens? Jump Jump, Doesn’t AFU have George Pierce and Scott Hudgens? Scott Hudgins is owned by Ga DNR and leased to the City of Duluth. SHP is on the river and has certain rules that have to be followed since it’s technically protected wildlife land. Thus no permanent lights and anytime anything is built/repaired it has to be approved by the state. Gwinnett County Parks has no control over it. |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 1, 2020 21:21:19 GMT -5
Per our County supervisor, Ufa does not like to share or allow anyone to use the fields when they aren’t there. As the county is allowed to rent the fields out when Ufa isn’t using them but Ufa continues to insist they use them 24/7. They also did not pay the out of county fee for multiple players/teams and then tried to hide it. Anyone that lives outside of Gwinnett is suppose to pay a $90 a season tax to use the facilities, this goes for all Gwinnett organizations. Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park, and with Ufa Lawrenceville fighting to take complete control over Rhodes Jordan that is technically infringing on that rule with Ufa already having Pinckneyville. Same reason gsa is having issues now that they took over Dacula/Rabbit Hill and are also wanting Rhodes Jordan. It’s one helluva mess as the Parks Dept is very split, like all politics in Gwinnett, nearly 50/50 so it just depends on who stays in charge over the coming years. Years ago we heard about the legendary Gwinnett by law “Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park...” - was an issue when norcross started using cemetery. Is the rule documented in any official Gwinnett codes and/or regulations? Great question and no idea. I think this is why there is a lot of gray area as it’s written in some documents but not all. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 2, 2020 8:12:25 GMT -5
I'm curious as to why they would want to throw UFA out of their county parks? Could you provide some insight? Thnx... Per our County supervisor, Ufa does not like to share or allow anyone to use the fields when they aren’t there. As the county is allowed to rent the fields out when Ufa isn’t using them but Ufa continues to insist they use them 24/7. They also did not pay the out of county fee for multiple players/teams and then tried to hide it. Anyone that lives outside of Gwinnett is suppose to pay a $90 a season tax to use the facilities, this goes for all Gwinnett organizations. So if you play for UFA, and don't live in either Forsyth or Gwinett, you have to pay a $390 extra in fees? Outside residents in Forsyth = $300 (at least that was the tax a few years ago) Outside residents of Gwinett = $90 UFA has always been so much more expensive than most of the other clubs. I always wondered why... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 2, 2020 8:30:37 GMT -5
Per our County supervisor, Ufa does not like to share or allow anyone to use the fields when they aren’t there. As the county is allowed to rent the fields out when Ufa isn’t using them but Ufa continues to insist they use them 24/7. They also did not pay the out of county fee for multiple players/teams and then tried to hide it. Anyone that lives outside of Gwinnett is suppose to pay a $90 a season tax to use the facilities, this goes for all Gwinnett organizations. So if you play for UFA, and don't live in either Forsyth or Gwinett, you have to pay a $390 extra in fees? Outside residents in Forsyth = $300 (at least that was the tax a few years ago) Outside residents of Gwinett = $90 UFA has always been so much more expensive tan most of the other clubs. I always wondered why... Those fees are IN ADDITION to the regular posted club fees. You don't pay 390, you pay either 90 or 300 depending on which branch you play at. UFA used to have cheaper fees for the lower level teams and fewer practices for them. So if your U12 kid was on the 3rd team or lower you practiced twice per week instead of three times and your fees reflected that. Now it is not like that and the fees are higher for everyone unless you are a high school age lower team and then your fees are a lot less than the upper level teams. It will be interesting to see if they raise the fees for the older teams playing SCCL 2 or 3. The athena fees were under $1000 for those kids but the SCCL, NPL fees were higher. Not really sure why the fees are higher but people still pay them. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Apr 2, 2020 9:13:49 GMT -5
Per our County supervisor, Ufa does not like to share or allow anyone to use the fields when they aren’t there. As the county is allowed to rent the fields out when Ufa isn’t using them but Ufa continues to insist they use them 24/7. They also did not pay the out of county fee for multiple players/teams and then tried to hide it. Anyone that lives outside of Gwinnett is suppose to pay a $90 a season tax to use the facilities, this goes for all Gwinnett organizations. Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park, and with Ufa Lawrenceville fighting to take complete control over Rhodes Jordan that is technically infringing on that rule with Ufa already having Pinckneyville. Same reason gsa is having issues now that they took over Dacula/Rabbit Hill and are also wanting Rhodes Jordan. It’s one helluva mess as the Parks Dept is very split, like all politics in Gwinnett, nearly 50/50 so it just depends on who stays in charge over the coming years. Years ago we heard about the legendary Gwinnett by law “Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park...” - was an issue when norcross started using cemetery. Is the rule documented in any official Gwinnett codes and/or regulations? I'm not sure that rule is a reality. Don't both GSA & UFA have access to Rhodes Jordan Park in Lawrenceville? |
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Post by atv on Apr 2, 2020 9:18:53 GMT -5
One thing not mentioned here is the impact the UFA girls will have on High School soccer programs. (I know we will get one special striker back.) Area high schools will be a lot stronger. Hopefully these young women will enjoy the experience of playing for their school, under the lights of a high school stadium in front of their peers, and coverage by the local newspapers.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 2, 2020 10:46:12 GMT -5
I guess a good question is how many parks out there are shared by multiple clubs?
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Post by Keeper on Apr 2, 2020 13:23:20 GMT -5
I'm sure ecnl teams players will not have to pay out of county fees --- to the best of my knowledge DA players do not have to pay out of county fees. I think this is fair practice, however, if a new player is added from outside the club that was not with the club the prior year and lives outside the county of interest, I could see and justify that player having to pay out of county fees. But this does get a little confusing, DA teams like the u17/u19 boys teams at UFA train at fowler, south and summerour - so would you charge kids both ways... See that’s the issue. Every out of county player no matter if they are playing Rec, Academy, Classic/Athena, SCCL, NPL, DA, or ECNL is suppose to pay. This is their equivalent of what us Gwinnett residents pay in taxes per year ($90 a season/sport). This goes for football, baseball and all other sports ran at Gwinnett Parks Dept clubs. |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 2, 2020 13:25:03 GMT -5
Years ago we heard about the legendary Gwinnett by law “Gwinnett also has a rule that only one organization is allowed to have access to one park...” - was an issue when norcross started using cemetery. Is the rule documented in any official Gwinnett codes and/or regulations? I'm not sure that rule is a reality. Don't both GSA & UFA have access to Rhodes Jordan Park in Lawrenceville? Both are able to rent the fields, like all other Gwinnett Parks clubs. But Rhodes Jordan was built specifically for Adult play and rental so the Adult leagues are suppose to get priority. |
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Post by atv on Apr 2, 2020 14:53:45 GMT -5
It’s not unlikely to find ECNL and DA teams with 50 to 90-percent of the players not living in the specific county where practices occur. One or two may not even live in the same state.
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