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Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on Apr 23, 2020 10:04:23 GMT -5
Thanks ATV.....I was having problems attaching from phone. Hart to attach a pic, I had the same issues, has to be a link |
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Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on Apr 23, 2020 10:05:58 GMT -5
why you no show link of map i tink map no real why you no ask admin "hey admin need help how to show map" me tinks no map to begin wit My guess, given the name "msundrcvr", is they have seen something not yet shareable with the masses(us). Thank you for your understanding...you hit it on the head!  |
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 23, 2020 11:11:32 GMT -5
We know NTH and CF are bad about announcing coaches/teams prior to tryouts. Will NTH families even know if the 3rd team is DPL or SCCL prior to tryouts? Also, the same guy who "runs" SCCL and DPL also runs South Atlantic NPL? If so I see a definitely conflict of interests. I'm wondering about the new hierarchy too. My daughter is on the NTH U14G SCCLP team now. The goal is always to make the highest team possible in the position that best suits her ... but it's also scary b/c if the top 3 teams are the only ones representing that league in GA ... that's mo money mo money mo money! |
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Post by footyfan on Apr 23, 2020 11:44:07 GMT -5
We know NTH and CF are bad about announcing coaches/teams prior to tryouts. Will NTH families even know if the 3rd team is DPL or SCCL prior to tryouts? Also, the same guy who "runs" SCCL and DPL also runs South Atlantic NPL? If so I see a definitely conflict of interests. There is no conflict. The more he sells, the more we buy, the more he makes. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 23, 2020 11:45:09 GMT -5
We know NTH and CF are bad about announcing coaches/teams prior to tryouts. Will NTH families even know if the 3rd team is DPL or SCCL prior to tryouts? Also, the same guy who "runs" SCCL and DPL also runs South Atlantic NPL? If so I see a definitely conflict of interests. I'm wondering about the new hierarchy too. My daughter is on the NTH U14G SCCLP team now. The goal is always to make the highest team possible in the position that best suits her ... but it's also scary b/c if the top 3 teams are the only ones representing that league in GA ... that's mo money mo money mo money! For your kid, if that hierarchy is correct, it would be beneficial staying with the same team. Because if the top 3 teams become travel teams, the 2019-20 SCCL-P team becomes the SCCL representative from NTH. So win-win for you. Yep, Sean Carey is the commissioner for GAL/DPL, NPL and SCCL. That's not good IMO. He's selling this to this club (UFA) and that to that club (NTH). |
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 23, 2020 11:54:28 GMT -5
I'm wondering about the new hierarchy too. My daughter is on the NTH U14G SCCLP team now. The goal is always to make the highest team possible in the position that best suits her ... but it's also scary b/c if the top 3 teams are the only ones representing that league in GA ... that's mo money mo money mo money! For your kid, if that hierarchy is correct, it would be beneficial staying with the same team. Because if the top 3 teams become travel teams, the 2019-20 SCCL-P team becomes the SCCL representative from NTH. So win-win for you. Yep, Sean Carey is the commissioner for GAL/DPL, NPL and SCCL. That's not good IMO. He's selling this to this club (UFA) and that to that club (NTH). Coaching wise ... right now, for 2006 ... it goes: Former DA - Troy DPL - Eddie SCCL - Edgar SCCLP - Ria So this is where the fun starts off ... what coaches are going to be coaching the 2 GAL teams for Tophat? |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 23, 2020 11:57:01 GMT -5
Serious question with no disrespect or ill will intended. Why would you want to continue at a club and be on the 4th best team for an age bracket, knowing most of the interest of the club is focused elsewhere, instead of going to another club in the area and possibly being on their second team?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 23, 2020 12:01:21 GMT -5
That is the question. Is the training THAT much better? Really?
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Post by lucydaisy on Apr 23, 2020 12:06:05 GMT -5
It seems that for TH, SCCL 1 could be the winner b/c you play most local clubs 2nd team without traveling too far and spending trillions to play a team in California, say.
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Post by girlsoccer on Apr 23, 2020 12:08:27 GMT -5
Serious question with no disrespect or ill will intended. Why would you want to continue at a club and be on the 4th best team for an age bracket, knowing most of the interest of the club is focused elsewhere, instead of going to another club in the area and possibly being on their second team? That u14 (2006) age group is a particularly strong and deep one for Tophat , at present anyway. So that fourth team may be stronger than many club’s second teams. I don’t think the focus should be on which team (1st,2nd,3rd, etc) at any particular club, but more on is your kid getting good training, playing the appropriate level of competition, getting better, developing a love for the game, achieving their own goals, getting college coach exposure (if that is what they want), etc. I believe those goals can typically be accomplished from the first or the fourth team. Is it “better” to be on the top team at a smaller club and play SCCL or on the fourth team at Tophat and play SCCL? 🤷♀️ depends on the coach and players. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 23, 2020 12:10:44 GMT -5
I'm honestly too lazy to go elsewhere and most of the girls above my daughter have been in the academy system WAY longer than my daughter so their ranks (most of them) are well deserved.
She has a good coach this year who helps with development.
Also, as of January ... she started working with a private trainer on a much more consistent basis so we can work out these technical kinks. A lot of the higher up coaches say that she is powerful and fast, but her technical needs to improve so we are finally being more aggressive about it.
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Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on Apr 23, 2020 12:43:23 GMT -5
Is the thought that NTH would have two GAL teams and DPL or is this to replace DPL? It is looking it will be tiered: GAL Tophat 1 Tophat 2 DPL Tophat 3 Just a guess, but that's what it is looking like. |
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Post by girlsoccer on Apr 23, 2020 12:58:12 GMT -5
Is the thought that NTH would have two GAL teams and DPL or is this to replace DPL? It is looking it will be tiered: GAL Tophat 1 Tophat 2 DPL Tophat 3 Just a guess, but that's what it is looking like. So they are effectively adding another “elite” team? For some age groups (those that demolished the competition in SCCL) this may work out. For other age groups it seems like a stretch. We’ll see I guess. Thanks for the info. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Apr 23, 2020 13:17:18 GMT -5
Serious question with no disrespect or ill will intended. Why would you want to continue at a club and be on the 4th best team for an age bracket, knowing most of the interest of the club is focused elsewhere, instead of going to another club in the area and possibly being on their second team? Reasonable ppl will agree families take countless factors into consideration when deciding to stay or leave a club are numerous! Typically comes down to best fit for growth and development but there's more discussion about chasing leagues vs chasing better technique and day to day competition not just on gameday. "A rising tide lifts all ships" so i guess to answer the earlier post, Yes IMO the training is better. |
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Post by interestedspectator on Apr 23, 2020 13:22:24 GMT -5
Is the thought that NTH would have two GAL teams and DPL or is this to replace DPL? It is looking it will be tiered: GAL Tophat 1 Tophat 2 DPL Tophat 3 Just a guess, but that's what it is looking like. They won't put their 3rd team into DPL. |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Apr 23, 2020 13:31:43 GMT -5
It is looking it will be tiered: GAL Tophat 1 Tophat 2 DPL Tophat 3 Just a guess, but that's what it is looking like. They won't put their 3rd team into DPL. What makes you think that? Isn't TG on the board for DPL? If he is and he get 2 teams in GAL I would imagine he wants a team there |
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Post by interestedspectator on Apr 23, 2020 13:33:28 GMT -5
They won't put their 3rd team into DPL. What makes you think that? Isn't TG on the board for DPL? If he is and he get 2 teams in GAL I would imagine he wants a team there Most of the SCCL kids play there for a reason. Because they don't want to travel/spend the money. TG knows that. Also TG is on the DPL board and GAL/DPL are run by the same board. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 23, 2020 14:15:33 GMT -5
Perhaps he's thinking he can draw from other clubs to form a 3rd travel team?
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Post by lucydaisy on Apr 23, 2020 14:37:52 GMT -5
I would think in this economy, a 3rd Travel Team would be stretching it!
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 23, 2020 15:38:00 GMT -5
Ok Penn Fusion off the list but the other two werent on the list. If thats all GAL loses from the list not too bad....but Penn Fusion was a big fish Im sure GAL would have loved to have.
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 23, 2020 16:17:16 GMT -5
So how can they make a map and teams drop out? Is it a wish list? Or are teams telling GAL they will join and then leaving anyway
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 23, 2020 16:41:09 GMT -5
So how can they make a map and teams drop out? Is it a wish list? Or are teams telling GAL they will join and then leaving anyway This league would have made sense if Girls DA was never created --if all the left over clubs came together to create their own super league who couldn't gain ecnl admission -- circa 5 years ago etc..... I just don't see how you will ever get an established ecnl team now to leave for GAL. You could add more 2nd tier clubs, but this would be a tough sell for me as a club DOC. The feds basically handed over top tier US youth soccer to US club soccer. period. end of story. If US club wanted to create their own soccer rules to play by they could - experiment with an offside line vs midfield experiment with biobanding allow head injury substitutions and re-entry regardless if any subs are left or not (might already) create teams with boys and girls ecnl -- create a coed team at each age group and play in a coed showcase monthly ecnl id sessions in each region - i.e. atlanta would host. establish player identification process for identifying players on the opposing side and lastly make hand balls legal inside the center circle (for those who read till the end.......) |
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Post by justadad on Apr 23, 2020 16:53:42 GMT -5
Ok Penn Fusion off the list but the other two werent on the list. If thats all GAL loses from the list not too bad....but Penn Fusion was a big fish Im sure GAL would have loved to have. As you may have noticed, with some of the latest clubs "moving away" from GAL to ECNL (4 west coast clubs + Penn Fusion, etc.); the ECNL announcement does not say the are an "ALL IN" club with the top programming in ECNL. These clubs will also be a part of GAL, and their top clubs will be in GAL. |
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 23, 2020 16:55:24 GMT -5
I would agree today that any DOC of an ECNL team wouldnt want to go GAL now. The question I think the GAL teams have to keep in the back of their head will it be that way in 3 or 4 years. I remember 3 years ago everyone was saying just the same thing against ECNL and that there was no way DA wouldnt be the end all and be all because US Soccer was the driver. I think if ECNL doesnt take all of the top clubs (which so far they haven't and sounds like they aren't or are too petty to) they will leave themselves open to a league which will probably be hungry to prove themselves. Whether GAL succeeds or fails will be determined by the product they give, if the parents feel their money was well spent and ultimately if their kids play at the next level. Across all business this happens ask Blockbuster who had the chance to buy Netflix for peanuts - 10 to 15 years later Blockbuster is gone and Netflix is the powerhouse.
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 23, 2020 16:59:34 GMT -5
Ok Penn Fusion off the list but the other two werent on the list. If thats all GAL loses from the list not too bad....but Penn Fusion was a big fish Im sure GAL would have loved to have. As you may have noticed, with some of the latest clubs "moving away" from GAL to ECNL (4 west coast clubs + Penn Fusion, etc.); the ECNL announcement does not say the are an "ALL IN" club with the top programming in ECNL. These clubs will also be a part of GAL, and their top clubs will be in GAL. I cant imagine ECNL buying off on that, if anything their 2nd teams would be GAL just like in the old world DA was top and ECNL was the 2nd team at places like Tophat that had both. |
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Post by westcoast on Apr 23, 2020 17:05:11 GMT -5
As you may have noticed, with some of the latest clubs "moving away" from GAL to ECNL (4 west coast clubs + Penn Fusion, etc.); the ECNL announcement does not say the are an "ALL IN" club with the top programming in ECNL. These clubs will also be a part of GAL, and their top clubs will be in GAL. I cant imagine ECNL buying off on that, if anything their 2nd teams would be GAL just like in the old world DA was top and ECNL was the 2nd team at places like Tophat that had both. The Southern California clubs that are in the ECNL Regional League, including Beach and Legends, will be playing their top teams in ECRL. Clubs already announced this to their former GDA teams. |
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Post by justadad on Apr 23, 2020 17:16:02 GMT -5
As you may have noticed, with some of the latest clubs "moving away" from GAL to ECNL (4 west coast clubs + Penn Fusion, etc.); the ECNL announcement does not say the are an "ALL IN" club with the top programming in ECNL. These clubs will also be a part of GAL, and their top clubs will be in GAL. I cant imagine ECNL buying off on that, if anything their 2nd teams would be GAL just like in the old world DA was top and ECNL was the 2nd team at places like Tophat that had both. Dont take my word for it, just compare the press release for Charlotte, NC Courage, and UFA with those of the West Coast teams plus Penn. One would think they would be consistent. Quite normally, ECNL parents would automatically assume that these clubs first teams would be in ECNL - |
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 23, 2020 17:30:51 GMT -5
Ok Penn Fusion off the list but the other two werent on the list. If thats all GAL loses from the list not too bad....but Penn Fusion was a big fish Im sure GAL would have loved to have. As you may have noticed, with some of the latest clubs "moving away" from GAL to ECNL (4 west coast clubs + Penn Fusion, etc.); the ECNL announcement does not say the are an "ALL IN" club with the top programming in ECNL. These clubs will also be a part of GAL, and their top clubs will be in GAL. Wishful thinking? No need to say All-In when DA doesn't exist anymore. I doubt any club would put their top team in GAL and 2nd team in ECNL. |
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Post by justadad on Apr 23, 2020 18:08:16 GMT -5
As you may have noticed, with some of the latest clubs "moving away" from GAL to ECNL (4 west coast clubs + Penn Fusion, etc.); the ECNL announcement does not say the are an "ALL IN" club with the top programming in ECNL. These clubs will also be a part of GAL, and their top clubs will be in GAL. Wishful thinking? No need to say All-In when DA doesn't exist anymore. I doubt any club would put their top team in GAL and 2nd team in ECNL. Then why say it for UFA, NC Courage, and Charlotte? Just sayin... I am not here to argue the point, but i dont think one can assume off the bat that those clubs first teams will be in ECNL (the clubs that just announced) |
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 23, 2020 18:12:11 GMT -5
Wishful thinking? No need to say All-In when DA doesn't exist anymore. I doubt any club would put their top team in GAL and 2nd team in ECNL. Then why say it for UFA, NC Courage, and Charlotte? Just sayin... I am not here to argue the point, but i dont think one can assume off the bat that those clubs first teams will be in ECNL (the clubs that just announced) After thinking about I think I saw something that said they call it all-in when they have both boys and girls in ecnl and not necessarily which of the girls teams is actually in there. |
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