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Post by ball2futbol on Apr 25, 2020 11:24:51 GMT -5
I don’t speak gibberish very well but I’m pretty sure that translated into a confession of planning to leave either way
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 25, 2020 12:45:32 GMT -5
Ok even with the ercl announcement of beach and legends going ercl the newest southwest conference of GAL (on their twitter and instagram) shows both part of GAL. Someone said the top teams of both were going ERCL. Now there is some confusion did their parents have a fit being in 2nd team league, were they waiting for commits to league from others, did clubs just not want to bet on the future are their 2nd teams playing GAL. Addinh those two do add back to strength of GAL even if its their 2nd team.
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Post by justwatching on Apr 25, 2020 13:27:22 GMT -5
I think it is pretty funny that you decide to leave TH because of "travel" and go to ECNL when nothing has been finalized for teams and schedule for TH. Even the proposed schedule many TH people have referenced on here travel is no more than ECNL. If you are leaving TH for an ECNL club and that's the best decision for your daughter that's great but why make up an excuse, especially "travel" when it is likely very similar to ECNL and likely what DA was already doing? Sounds like you already wanted to leave and this just gave you an opportunity to go. coach she say wait for may 1 to tell us how th do but dinero is one of di reason but why you no wan mind u own child dis idea to leave is because his good for ma child and we no have mucho dinero and coach from new club she call me and 4 girls on team so we tink we go to new club my child she wan play ecnl the oda girls on team also look to leaf and th no have ecnl so abiento I didn't understand everything you said here but I think I gather you think going to another club with ECNL is best for your daughter. I think that is great if that's the conclusion but I just wonder why the excuse about money and travel when they are equivalent. No reason to spread that fallacy. I also think it is funny in a previous thread on Girls club that develops girls the best your response was "NTH, NTH, NTH..." I guess that development doesn't matter anymore or just magically stopped huh lol? Also on another note why do you speak this faux patois? I've seen many of your posts that are written in well constructed English. I also have a good idea who this is. I doubt what you say about 4 kids going to new club is true 🙂 but if so good luck to them. I hope it is the kids' decision and not the parents 😉.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 25, 2020 13:30:44 GMT -5
If they are playing in both I'd expect their first teams in GAL... which overall might hurt their chances of being promoted to ECNL (based on performance). A killer showing in ECRL wild likely lead to promotion.
So does anyone know the deal with SE DPL? Purely out of curiosity.
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Post by 04gparent on Apr 25, 2020 16:33:58 GMT -5
If they are playing in both I'd expect their first teams in GAL... which overall might hurt their chances of being promoted to ECNL (based on performance). A killer showing in ECRL wild likely lead to promotion. So does anyone know the deal with SE DPL? Purely out of curiosity. the twitter feed is the best place for the latest... twitter.com/GAcademyLeaguedoesnt look like their is a website yet... let the movement or rumors of movement begin...
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Post by rifle on Apr 26, 2020 7:53:54 GMT -5
We need a meritocracy... not a bunch of “adults” trying to out maneuvers everyone else.
Club based leagues are the cause of this stupidity. This is why #ProRelforUSA still needs to happen.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 26, 2020 11:03:17 GMT -5
das a lot of dinero to travel das why many players she leave th to go ecnl das y we leave di th club next month I think it is pretty funny that you decide to leave TH because of "travel" and go to ECNL when nothing has been finalized for teams and schedule for TH. Even the proposed schedule many TH people have referenced on here travel is no more than ECNL. If you are leaving TH for an ECNL club and that's the best decision for your daughter that's great but why make up an excuse, especially "travel" when it is likely very similar to ECNL and likely what DA was already doing? Sounds like you already wanted to leave and this just gave you an opportunity to go. Let me start by saying I personally do not enjoy reading or trying to decipher the real crux of the posts from soccergurl I think it actually does my head in honestly. But, much like what many have suggested, I just skip and move on. However, over the last week or so, I've seen an uptick, ganging up and a change in how some have chosen to deal with her. I've seen words like gibberish, the intimation of her having a stroke(btw not funny), calling her annoying and now questioning her decision or logic to leave TH. Honestly, I personally think it's out of bounds and uncalled for. I again go back to what others have said, you don't like what or how she says things whether it be in patois, pidgin, Spanglish or martian, Just Ignore. Additionally, and for me more concerning, where does anyone get off questioning her reasoning for leaving or staying at a club. Calling her reasoning an excuse is just rude. If she wants to leave because the sky is bluer or the grass in greener, somewhere else is her right and not for you or I to question. We all come on to the forum to get some semblance of information we use to hopefully further our kids soccer lives and maybe attain their goals. If you don't like something that is said, have a rebuttal, but let's not make it personal. So what was this thread about again, oh yeah the new GAL League Map...
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Post by justwatching on Apr 26, 2020 11:25:48 GMT -5
I think it is pretty funny that you decide to leave TH because of "travel" and go to ECNL when nothing has been finalized for teams and schedule for TH. Even the proposed schedule many TH people have referenced on here travel is no more than ECNL. If you are leaving TH for an ECNL club and that's the best decision for your daughter that's great but why make up an excuse, especially "travel" when it is likely very similar to ECNL and likely what DA was already doing? Sounds like you already wanted to leave and this just gave you an opportunity to go. Let me start by saying I personally do not enjoy reading or trying to decipher the real crux of the posts from soccergurl I think it actually does my head in honestly. But, much like what many have suggested, I just skip and move on. However, over the last week or so, I've seen an uptick, ganging up and a change in how some have chosen to deal with her. I've seen words like gibberish, the intimation of her having a stroke(btw not funny), calling her annoying and now questioning her decision or logic to leave TH. Honestly, I personally think it's out of bounds and uncalled for. I again go back to what others have said, you don't like what or how she says things whether it be in patois, pidgin, Spanglish or martian, Just Ignore. Additionally, and for me more concerning, where does anyone get off questioning her reasoning for leaving or staying at a club. Calling her reasoning an excuse is just rude. If she wants to leave because the sky is bluer or the grass in greener, somewhere else is her right and not for you or I to question. We all come on to the forum to get some semblance of information we use to hopefully further our kids soccer lives and maybe attain their goals. If you don't like something that is said, have a rebuttal, but let's not make it personal. So what was this thread about again, oh yeah the new GAL League Map... I'm not sure where my response was offensive to anyone. I think it is also people's responsibility to squash untrue rumors on this forum before they spread like wild fire and cause the uninformed to further broadcast it. I said if ECNL and leaving TH is best he her child that is great and good luck to her (I truly mean that). But I don't see how not letting a made up statement like travel comparison slide is not OK. Travel hasn't even been confirmed as the conference and schedules are not completed but even if you take the mock schedule she has seen into consideration the travel is not more. I don't really care her reasoning for changing her daughter from TH to another club. That's her and her daughter's business. She doesn't need to explain it to me or anyone on here only her daughter and maybe her daughter's teammates if they feel inclined. I called her out on the faux patois because she clearly said English is not her first language in another thread when obviously that's not true. She uses English very well as can be seen in other posts and I called her out on saying the best club for girls' development is "NTH, NTH, NTH" but now is pulling her daughter from it. She might have changed her mind for all I know or might think development is secondary to league. So I appreciate you standing up for her because there have been several people to call her annoying etc but I wasn't one of them. I am/was more annoyed by that person's agenda to push a narrative that, as of now, has no bases which could cause an unnecessary panic and false message.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 26, 2020 13:33:41 GMT -5
Ignore sg's trolling, no telling what is true, its the internet FFS.
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Post by shaka on Apr 26, 2020 13:48:21 GMT -5
I think it is pretty funny that you decide to leave TH because of "travel" and go to ECNL when nothing has been finalized for teams and schedule for TH. Even the proposed schedule many TH people have referenced on here travel is no more than ECNL. If you are leaving TH for an ECNL club and that's the best decision for your daughter that's great but why make up an excuse, especially "travel" when it is likely very similar to ECNL and likely what DA was already doing? Sounds like you already wanted to leave and this just gave you an opportunity to go. Let me start by saying I personally do not enjoy reading or trying to decipher the real crux of the posts from soccergurl I think it actually does my head in honestly. But, much like what many have suggested, I just skip and move on. However, over the last week or so, I've seen an uptick, ganging up and a change in how some have chosen to deal with her. I've seen words like gibberish, the intimation of her having a stroke(btw not funny), calling her annoying and now questioning her decision or logic to leave TH. Honestly, I personally think it's out of bounds and uncalled for. I again go back to what others have said, you don't like what or how she says things whether it be in patois, pidgin, Spanglish or martian, Just Ignore. Additionally, and for me more concerning, where does anyone get off questioning her reasoning for leaving or staying at a club. Calling her reasoning an excuse is just rude. If she wants to leave because the sky is bluer or the grass in greener, somewhere else is her right and not for you or I to question. We all come on to the forum to get some semblance of information we use to hopefully further our kids soccer lives and maybe attain their goals. If you don't like something that is said, have a rebuttal, but let's not make it personal. So what was this thread about again, oh yeah the new GAL League Map... "We all come on to the forum to get some semblance of information we use to hopefully further our kids soccer lives and maybe attain their goals." FG, your posts are almost always enlightening, informative and insightful. Alternatively, someone going out of their way to post material that is difficult to decipher is frustrating to those of us who utilize this forum. I choose to ignore her bc of that. The saying: "If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all" certainly applies to all of us. Likewise, when someone chooses to make their thoughts & info hard to understand bc they think it's cute or funny that's not nice either. She may have good info to share, so just share it instead of creating difficulty. And using the word gibberish is totally accurate for what she posts. I will continue to enjoy reading your insights FG
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 26, 2020 15:33:23 GMT -5
I think it is also people's responsibility[ who make u responsibility police] to squash untrue rumors on this forum before they spread like wild fire and cause the uninformed to further broadcast it[ why u informed but me uninformed]. I said if ECNL and leaving TH is best he her child that is great and good luck to her (I truly mean that). But I don't see how not letting a made up statement like travel comparison slide is not OK. Travel hasn't even been confirmed as the conference and schedules are not completed but even if you take the mock schedule she has seen into consideration the travel is not more[ not true]. I called her out on the faux patois because she clearly said English is not her first language in another thread when obviously that's not true[ true]. She uses English very well as can be seen in other posts[ no like, no read] and I called her out on saying the best club for girls' development is "NTH, NTH, NTH" but now is pulling her daughter from it[ was true]. She might have changed her mind for all I know or might think development is secondary to league[ true]. So I appreciate you standing up for her because there have been several people to call her annoying etc but I wasn't one of them. I am/was more annoyed by that person's agenda to push a narrative that, as of now, has no bases [ 2 yr at NTH = basis] which could cause an unnecessary panic and false message[ peepu not sheep, decide on own].
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Post by justwatching on Apr 26, 2020 15:47:56 GMT -5
I never said you are uninformed and I am. I am saying you have seen the schedule and non TH people have not, meaning they are uninformed. If the travel is more can you specify how much more the travel is by trips, hours, or whatever since you are sure of it.
Again if you believe league is priority over player development for your daughter which from your posts seems to be young (I assume pre-HS) then more power to you and good luck next season.
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Post by justadad on Apr 26, 2020 18:53:34 GMT -5
Ok even with the ercl announcement of beach and legends going ercl the newest southwest conference of GAL (on their twitter and instagram) shows both part of GAL. Someone said the top teams of both were going ERCL. Now there is some confusion did their parents have a fit being in 2nd team league, were they waiting for commits to league from others, did clubs just not want to bet on the future are their 2nd teams playing GAL. Addinh those two do add back to strength of GAL even if its their 2nd team. As i mentioned before, the top teams for the Beach and Legends will be in GAL
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Post by justadad on Apr 26, 2020 18:59:21 GMT -5
I think it is also people's responsibility[ who make u responsibility police] to squash untrue rumors on this forum before they spread like wild fire and cause the uninformed to further broadcast it[ why u informed but me uninformed]. I said if ECNL and leaving TH is best he her child that is great and good luck to her (I truly mean that). But I don't see how not letting a made up statement like travel comparison slide is not OK. Travel hasn't even been confirmed as the conference and schedules are not completed but even if you take the mock schedule she has seen into consideration the travel is not more[ not true]. I called her out on the faux patois because she clearly said English is not her first language in another thread when obviously that's not true[ true]. She uses English very well as can be seen in other posts[ no like, no read] and I called her out on saying the best club for girls' development is "NTH, NTH, NTH" but now is pulling her daughter from it[ was true]. She might have changed her mind for all I know or might think development is secondary to league[ true]. So I appreciate you standing up for her because there have been several people to call her annoying etc but I wasn't one of them. I am/was more annoyed by that person's agenda to push a narrative that, as of now, has no bases [ 2 yr at NTH = basis] which could cause an unnecessary panic and false message[ peepu not sheep, decide on own]. Travel for GAL for TH will be about the same as if they were in ECNL or DA. More out of conference matches will be in Atlanta than not. Same travel to Florida, as in DA, with travel to play USA and Weston and also a weekend down at IMG and West Florida.
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 26, 2020 19:07:52 GMT -5
Ok even with the ercl announcement of beach and legends going ercl the newest southwest conference of GAL (on their twitter and instagram) shows both part of GAL. Someone said the top teams of both were going ERCL. Now there is some confusion did their parents have a fit being in 2nd team league, were they waiting for commits to league from others, did clubs just not want to bet on the future are their 2nd teams playing GAL. Addinh those two do add back to strength of GAL even if its their 2nd team. As i mentioned before, the top teams for the Beach and Legends will be in GAL In the NTH thread Westcoast said that Beach GDA told they were playing ERCL.
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 27, 2020 15:21:55 GMT -5
I didn't understand everything you said here but I think I gather you think going to another club with ECNL is best for your daughter. I think that is great if that's the conclusion but I just wonder why the excuse about money and travel when they are equivalent. No reason to spread that fallacy. I also think it is funny in a previous thread on Girls club that develops girls the best your response was "NTH, NTH, NTH..." I guess that development doesn't matter anymore or just magically stopped huh lol? Also on another note why do you speak this faux patois? I've seen many of your posts that are written in well constructed English. I also have a good idea who this is. I doubt what you say about 4 kids going to new club is true 🙂 but if so good luck to them. I hope it is the kids' decision and not the parents 😉. so u know, the coach he talk to everybody, he have plan and he convince a lot of tha team to stay except 2, we all talk and now we stay together, see u on field, NTH NTH NTH
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Post by soccermonster on Apr 27, 2020 16:36:49 GMT -5
I didn't understand everything you said here but I think I gather you think going to another club with ECNL is best for your daughter. I think that is great if that's the conclusion but I just wonder why the excuse about money and travel when they are equivalent. No reason to spread that fallacy. I also think it is funny in a previous thread on Girls club that develops girls the best your response was "NTH, NTH, NTH..." I guess that development doesn't matter anymore or just magically stopped huh lol? Also on another note why do you speak this faux patois? I've seen many of your posts that are written in well constructed English. I also have a good idea who this is. I doubt what you say about 4 kids going to new club is true 🙂 but if so good luck to them. I hope it is the kids' decision and not the parents 😉. so u know, the coach he talk to everybody, he have plan and he convince a lot of tha team to stay except 2, we all talk and now we stay together, see u on field, NTH NTH NTH Do you want to share a few bullet points on what the coach said that is convincing you to stay? Do you think this applies to all age groups or just a few?
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 27, 2020 19:45:43 GMT -5
GA (I think from what I am hearing they are going to drop the l) put out the mid atlantic teams. 7 of the 8 DA clubs (all but Penn Fusion). Again you can argue they werent the top teams in DA but they are still DA teams and will draw college coaches if they can keep their teams togeather.
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 27, 2020 19:53:34 GMT -5
The Southern Cal Forum had the following teams for the Frontier Conference (Texas)
FC Dallas Lonestar SC Houston Dash Oklahoma Energy Sporting Blue Valley Sporting Omaha Colorado Rush?
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Post by Soccerphreak on Apr 27, 2020 20:11:17 GMT -5
GA (I think from what I am hearing they are going to drop the l) put out the mid atlantic teams. 7 of the 8 DA clubs (all but Penn Fusion). Again you can argue they werent the top teams in DA but they are still DA teams and will draw college coaches if they can keep their teams togeather. I dont know that I would agree with this, Respectfully, because the rumblings across the various regions (yes I'm a state to state blog snob) is that the top players are leaving to play ECNL if its available in their cities. I dont think those DA teams will be able to keep the teams together as its unrealistic. Yes I agree that coaches will go visit certain clubs but they will also follow the players and right now, those players are bolting and not buying into that league.
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 27, 2020 20:32:13 GMT -5
GA (I think from what I am hearing they are going to drop the l) put out the mid atlantic teams. 7 of the 8 DA clubs (all but Penn Fusion). Again you can argue they werent the top teams in DA but they are still DA teams and will draw college coaches if they can keep their teams togeather. I dont know that I would agree with this, Respectfully, because the rumblings across the various regions (yes I'm a state to state blog snob) is that the top players are leaving to play ECNL if its available in their cities. I dont think those DA teams will be able to keep the teams together as its unrealistic. Yes I agree that coaches will go visit certain clubs but they will also follow the players and right now, those players are bolting and not buying into that league. As I have said before on the forum, I think some will go, some will stay and some will come as it is every year. While some of the top top talent may move you need to remember in all of these cities there are only so many slots for talented girls (and they arent really adding top teams to the landscape just changing name of leagur) Some (and maybe they are at the bottom of ecnl rosters) will come and maybe they are not quite as talented but they are probably still D1/D2 talent which will give good games across the league.
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Post by collegesoccer on Apr 27, 2020 21:35:14 GMT -5
I dont know that I would agree with this, Respectfully, because the rumblings across the various regions (yes I'm a state to state blog snob) is that the top players are leaving to play ECNL if its available in their cities. I dont think those DA teams will be able to keep the teams together as its unrealistic. Yes I agree that coaches will go visit certain clubs but they will also follow the players and right now, those players are bolting and not buying into that league. As I have said before on the forum, I think some will go, some will stay and some will come as it is every year. While some of the top top talent may move you need to remember in all of these cities there are only so many slots for talented girls (and they arent really adding top teams to the landscape just changing name of leagur) Some (and maybe they are at the bottom of ecnl rosters) will come and maybe they are not quite as talented but they are probably still D1/D2 talent which will give good games across the league. True. One example - last year when Tophat lost ECNL (which was the second team in each age group after DA) 7 of 16 players left one of the teams and went to area ECNL teams. And players from other clubs came to TH tryouts. As a result, the DPL (formerly ECNL) team was significantly better this year than last years ECNL team. Clubs, coaches, and team members want players who want to be with the team, club, and league. If they aren’t happy or getting what they need they should transition to a place where they can be happy. The worst thing they could do is stay - this negatively affects everyone involved.
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Post by justadad on Apr 27, 2020 21:59:20 GMT -5
As I have said before on the forum, I think some will go, some will stay and some will come as it is every year. While some of the top top talent may move you need to remember in all of these cities there are only so many slots for talented girls (and they arent really adding top teams to the landscape just changing name of leagur) Some (and maybe they are at the bottom of ecnl rosters) will come and maybe they are not quite as talented but they are probably still D1/D2 talent which will give good games across the league. True. One example - last year when Tophat lost ECNL (which was the second team in each age group after DA) 7 of 16 players left one of the teams and went to area ECNL teams. And players from other clubs came to TH tryouts. As a result, the DPL (formerly ECNL) team was significantly better this year than last years ECNL team. Clubs, coaches, and team members want players who want to be with the team, club, and league. If they aren’t happy or getting what they need they should transition to a place where they can be happy. The worst thing they could do is stay - this negatively affects everyone involved. College coaches will always go to see TH players regardless of the league they are playing in. Ranked #1 as the top girls soccer club, and arguably one of the top programs in the country, colleges (big and small) will scout and secure talent from this program. So if it is DA, ECNL, NL or GAL, they will travel to see them play. Any thoughts that coaches will not is fallacy.
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 28, 2020 0:42:59 GMT -5
so u know, the coach he talk to everybody, he have plan and he convince a lot of tha team to stay except 2, we all talk and now we stay together, see u on field, NTH NTH NTH Do you want to share a few bullet points on what the coach said that is convincing you to stay? Do you think this applies to all age groups or just a few? |TG met with parents|12-19 games|new coach|division + cross-over games|cross-over games all at home so no travel|team wants to stay together|price for season|out of state tournaments| Do you think this applies to all age groups or just a few? |Yes and no|Age dependent|Still do not like many kool-aid drinking team parents|daughter loves teammates|
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 28, 2020 7:35:58 GMT -5
Congrats on your speedy recovery and rehab from your stroke
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Post by justadad on Apr 28, 2020 13:28:02 GMT -5
Travel for GAL for TH will be about the same as if they were in ECNL or DA. More out of conference matches will be in Atlanta than not. Same travel to Florida, as in DA, with travel to play USA and Weston and also a weekend down at IMG and West Florida. Can someone please send a map that shows having 5 ECNL teams in the same city is equivalent to the Southeast gal teams travel? I am so confused. Not a rocket scientist, but in ECNL SE - there are 6 teams in Florida (3 travel trips to Florida); in GAL SE - there will probably 5-6 teams in Florida (3 travel trips to Florida). Showcases and tournaments will not be in Atlanta, so ECNL and GAL will both have to travel to those.
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Post by footyfan on Apr 28, 2020 14:27:48 GMT -5
Can someone please send a map that shows having 5 ECNL teams in the same city is equivalent to the Southeast gal teams travel? I am so confused. Not a rocket scientist, but in ECNL SE - there are 6 teams in Florida (3 travel trips to Florida); in GAL SE - there will probably 5-6 teams in Florida (3 travel trips to Florida). Showcases and tournaments will not be in Atlanta, so ECNL and GAL will both have to travel to those. We might want to wait until DPL-C and DPL-Premier teams are known before we judge travel reqts of each
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Apr 28, 2020 17:46:00 GMT -5
Mid America
Cincinnati Cleveland FC United Nationals Sockers Salvo SC Wave SC MN Eclipse Beading SC Indy Premier NortheastSeacoast United South Shore NEFC Oakwood New York SC Long Island STA DA Cedar Stars Mid AtlanticArlington SA Baltimore FC Virginia Metro United PA Classics SJEB Rush Cedar Stars Penn Fusion SoutheastWeston IMG United Soccer Alliance Tophat 1 Tophat 2 West Florida S. Orlando Wake FC Tophat just posted on Facebook they are going to GAL The list was almost 100% correct. The only team that you have on the list but wasn't on the post was S.Orlando. Maybe they will be added later
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Post by footyfan on Apr 28, 2020 20:50:46 GMT -5
Is that the team list that parents expected? Is there a different team list for dpl?
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 29, 2020 6:22:08 GMT -5
Mid America
Cincinnati Cleveland FC United Nationals Sockers Salvo SC Wave SC MN Eclipse Beading SC Indy Premier NortheastSeacoast United South Shore NEFC Oakwood New York SC Long Island STA DA Cedar Stars Mid AtlanticArlington SA Baltimore FC Virginia Metro United PA Classics SJEB Rush Cedar Stars Penn Fusion SoutheastWeston IMG United Soccer Alliance Tophat 1 Tophat 2 West Florida S. Orlando Wake FC Tophat just posted on Facebook they are going to GAL The list was almost 100% correct. The only team that you have on the list but wasn't on the post was S.Orlando. Maybe they will be added later Apparently Orlando was going to be in it, but then TG decided they were not good enough and booted them. This is after they had already told everyone that were going to be in GAL and has all their promotional stuff ready to go. The SE region for GAL is not strong, for anyone that followed DA knows that those teams were not that good. United Soccer Alliance had a good team at the oldest age but most of those girls graduating now. West Florida Flames is one of the worst teams in the nation, followed closely by Weston. IMG is up and down, they got better when they allowed outside talent to join their teams. I believe Wake FC was NPL not DA prior to this. Also anyone that has been around all of this, knows that TG had not so very nice things to say about those clubs and their talent. Stay if you want, go if you want. But do what's best for your kid, not what TG or anyone else wants you to do. What if the GAL is a disaster? TH will just move on to something new the year after. Don't get me wrong it could turn out to be the best thing ever, however, how old is your kid? Are you willing to be their guinea pig and pay a lot of $$ in the process and waste a year? Good luck to everyone at tryouts, glad to not be in that mess anymore
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