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Post by honeybadger on Jun 12, 2020 22:06:40 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong.
And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it.
Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here.
1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________
2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________
3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________
Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not.
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Post by mistercalcio on Jun 12, 2020 22:18:14 GMT -5
_____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. Whew, the arrogance is strong with this one. Not to mention, “the other post was locked so let me bring my dirty laundry BACK UP over on this thread...”. You and ODP logo need to have a private chat, i think |
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 12, 2020 22:27:48 GMT -5
_____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. Whew, the arrogance is strong with this one. Not to mention, “the other post was locked so let me bring my dirty laundry BACK UP over on this thread...”. You and ODP logo need to have a private chat, i think No arrogance here my friend. The other thread was locked. I see ODP logo boy came to this spot and kept going. I simply asked him to answer some questions. You are welcome to answer those 3 questions yourself too. By the way, I asked ODP logo boy to PM me and we could meet in private or message in private. He has yet to PM me. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 12, 2020 22:34:50 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong. And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it. Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here. 1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________ 2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________ 3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. You seem to be very fired up as usual. Since UFA Norcross and Forsyth are the same club how do you fire a coach at one branch and the other branch (arguably the main location) hires that same coach to coach a high level team? This is an honest question because it doesn't make sense to me. I feel like "fire" is a strong word. Besides there is no guarantee that they will keep the same coach with a team back to back years. Sergio is supposed to be a great coach. I wish him the best. All-in would make me nervous if I was the parent of sophomore 05 kids and any of the 03 kids. As sad as it is club names matter. |
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Post by mistercalcio on Jun 12, 2020 22:45:13 GMT -5
Whew, the arrogance is strong with this one. Not to mention, “the other post was locked so let me bring my dirty laundry BACK UP over on this thread...”. You and ODP logo need to have a private chat, i think No arrogance here my friend. The other thread was locked. I see ODP logo boy came to this spot and kept going. I simply asked him to answer some questions. You are welcome to answer those 3 questions yourself too. By the way, I asked ODP logo boy to PM me and we could meet in private or message in private. He has yet to PM me. Only kidding with the gif (hopefully it works). I have no dog in this fight, I just think posing questions that are opinion based and then saying “answer them and I’ll tell you if you flunked” is pretty self-centered. That being said, I feel as if we should all try and be more empathetic anyway, so maybe that’s my own stance coming into play. BUT, you are right, someone else did drag this confrontation from one thread to another so i can recognize your irritation and probably would’ve had a similar reaction in your shoes. |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Jun 12, 2020 22:50:35 GMT -5
No arrogance here my friend. The other thread was locked. I see ODP logo boy came to this spot and kept going. I simply asked him to answer some questions. You are welcome to answer those 3 questions yourself too. By the way, I asked ODP logo boy to PM me and we could meet in private or message in private. He has yet to PM me. Only kidding with the gif (hopefully it works). I have no dog in this fight, I just think posing questions that are opinion based and then saying “answer them and I’ll tell you if you flunked” is pretty self-centered. That being said, I feel as if we should all try and be more empathetic anyway, so maybe that’s my own stance coming into play. BUT, you are right, someone else did drag this confrontation from one thread to another so i can recognize your irritation and probably would’ve had a similar reaction in your shoes. At least we are not talking about Tophat. LOL |
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Post by OTPSoccer on Jun 12, 2020 22:54:17 GMT -5
No arrogance here my friend. The other thread was locked. I see ODP logo boy came to this spot and kept going. I simply asked him to answer some questions. You are welcome to answer those 3 questions yourself too. By the way, I asked ODP logo boy to PM me and we could meet in private or message in private. He has yet to PM me. Only kidding with the gif (hopefully it works). I have no dog in this fight, I just think posing questions that are opinion based and then saying “answer them and I’ll tell you if you flunked” is pretty self-centered. That being said, I feel as if we should all try and be more empathetic anyway, so maybe that’s my own stance coming into play. BUT, you are right, someone else did drag this confrontation from one thread to another so i can recognize your irritation and probably would’ve had a similar reaction in your shoes. Recording zoom meetings. Love the passion. We're talking about kid's soccer on this forum, right? Like round ball, 11 to a side, not-for-profit, rectangular net? "Fun activity". Asking for a friend. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 12, 2020 23:21:08 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong. And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it. Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here. 1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________ 2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________ 3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. Please don't drag me into your petty drama...no one told me anything so no idea why you even mention me |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 12, 2020 23:22:58 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong. And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it. Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here. 1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________ 2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________ 3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. You seem to be very fired up as usual. Since UFA Norcross and Forsyth are the same club how do you fire a coach at one branch and the other branch (arguably the main location) hires that same coach to coach a high level team? This is an honest question because it doesn't make sense to me. I feel like "fire" is a strong word. Besides there is no guarantee that they will keep the same coach with a team back to back years. Sergio is supposed to be a great coach. I wish him the best. All-in would make me nervous if I was the parent of sophomore 05 kids and any of the 03 kids. As sad as it is club names matter. Exactly... that's because he wasn't fired. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 12, 2020 23:29:05 GMT -5
No arrogance here my friend. The other thread was locked. I see ODP logo boy came to this spot and kept going. I simply asked him to answer some questions. You are welcome to answer those 3 questions yourself too. By the way, I asked ODP logo boy to PM me and we could meet in private or message in private. He has yet to PM me. Only kidding with the gif (hopefully it works). I have no dog in this fight, I just think posing questions that are opinion based and then saying “answer them and I’ll tell you if you flunked” is pretty self-centered. That being said, I feel as if we should all try and be more empathetic anyway, so maybe that’s my own stance coming into play. BUT, you are right, someone else did drag this confrontation from one thread to another so i can recognize your irritation and probably would’ve had a similar reaction in your shoes. Well from what I read, it wasn't the ODP guy who did but someone else. He also mentioned me in his last rant when I wasn't even part of it |
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 12, 2020 23:34:13 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong. And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it. Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here. 1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________ 2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________ 3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. I think we both know who won 🏆 |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 13, 2020 0:07:44 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong. And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it. Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here. 1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________ 2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________ 3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. Well first statement is completely a lie as I know one of the girls has signed with a club other then Ufa and All In. So they lost at least one player. Guessing more then that too. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 13, 2020 5:48:43 GMT -5
The dishonest and deceitful part was it all went down after tryouts were over and teams were formed. It left the girls with very few choices. Similar level teams at other clubs were full so could not move to more convenient clubs. Also prevented Norcross from being able to find adequate replacements.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 13, 2020 5:53:11 GMT -5
The dishonest and deceitful part was it all went down after tryouts were over and teams were formed. It left the girls with very few choices. Similar level teams at other clubs were full so could not move to more convenient clubs. Also prevented Norcross from being able to find adequate replacements. Exactly. |
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Post by mistercalcio on Jun 13, 2020 7:11:22 GMT -5
media0.giphy.com/media/3o6ZsZWkJ2DSXabrb2/source.gifOnly kidding with the gif (hopefully it works). I have no dog in this fight, I just think posing questions that are opinion based and then saying “answer them and I’ll tell you if you flunked” is pretty self-centered. That being said, I feel as if we should all try and be more empathetic anyway, so maybe that’s my own stance coming into play. BUT, you are right, someone else did drag this confrontation from one thread to another so i can recognize your irritation and probably would’ve had a similar reaction in your shoes. Recording zoom meetings. Love the passion. We're talking about kid's soccer on this forum, right? Like round ball, 11 to a side, not-for-profit, rectangular net? "Fun activity". Asking for a friend. ...huh? Maybe I missed something but not sure where the Zoom meetings and such references are from. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 13, 2020 7:20:40 GMT -5
Recording zoom meetings. Love the passion. We're talking about kid's soccer on this forum, right? Like round ball, 11 to a side, not-for-profit, rectangular net? "Fun activity". Asking for a friend. ...huh? Maybe I missed something but not sure where the Zoom meetings and such references are from. I think he meant to tag badger, he stated that he recorded the zoom meetings |
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 13, 2020 7:49:45 GMT -5
I do respect everyone's views. There is no "good" time to make a move. I'll just end with this: had our coach not been fired (he was) just before the tryouts (and of course there couldn't be tryouts with CV19) none of our girls were put in a good position to make a decision at the last minute.
There was one girl who wasn't on our team last year who had agreed to come to Norcross when Claude was the coach. Then when he was fired, it created a situation for them. I don't blame them for signing with a good team closer to their home. But what I mean in an earlier post was that of the 17 girls on our roster from last year there are 3 waiting on more information and 14 have signed with the new club.
Soccermom, my apologies if I responded to you when I meant someone else. That was an error on my part.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 13, 2020 8:02:13 GMT -5
I do respect everyone's views. There is no "good" time to make a move. I'll just end with this: had our coach not been fired (he was) just before the tryouts (and of course there couldn't be tryouts with CV19) none of our girls were put in a good position to make a decision at the last minute. There was one girl who wasn't on our team last year who had agreed to come to Norcross when Claude was the coach. Then when he was fired, it created a situation for them. I don't blame them for signing with a good team closer to their home. But what I mean in an earlier post was that of the 17 girls on our roster from last year there are 3 waiting on more information and 14 have signed with the new club. Soccermom, my apologies if I responded to you when I meant someone else. That was an error on my part. Sure there is a good time to leave. Most coaches announce they are leaving between the end of the regular season and the beginning of tryouts. I have no problem with coaches or players leaving but there is a right way to do it. Just like players should not verbally accept spots and then back out, coaches should not accept teams for the next year and then bolt. You announced to the forum on May 17th that Sergio was taking over the 05 team. That was two full weeks before tryouts. If Sergio was leaving, he never should have accepted the 05 team. THat would have been the right thing to do. There is no way to spin it—leaving after tryouts and after teams were formed was deceitful. |
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 13, 2020 13:04:38 GMT -5
I do respect everyone's views. There is no "good" time to make a move. I'll just end with this: had our coach not been fired (he was) just before the tryouts (and of course there couldn't be tryouts with CV19) none of our girls were put in a good position to make a decision at the last minute. There was one girl who wasn't on our team last year who had agreed to come to Norcross when Claude was the coach. Then when he was fired, it created a situation for them. I don't blame them for signing with a good team closer to their home. But what I mean in an earlier post was that of the 17 girls on our roster from last year there are 3 waiting on more information and 14 have signed with the new club. Soccermom, my apologies if I responded to you when I meant someone else. That was an error on my part. Sure there is a good time to leave. Most coaches announce they are leaving between the end of the regular season and the beginning of tryouts. I have no problem with coaches or players leaving but there is a right way to do it. Just like players should not verbally accept spots and then back out, coaches should not accept teams for the next year and then bolt. You announced to the forum on May 17th that Sergio was taking over the 05 team. That was two full weeks before tryouts. If Sergio was leaving, he never should have accepted the 05 team. THat would have been the right thing to do. There is no way to spin it—leaving after tryouts and after teams were formed was deceitful. You sir nailed it! He knew he was leaving way before tryouts and he CHOSE to do it this way. Some parents also KNEW before (And they know who they are). The way it was done was wrong because it put the girls/parents in a bad position with not much of a choice. I have heard from a couple of parents that he would call them and tell them they were the only ones left and they would have no team if they stayed. If he had left before tryouts, would all the same people have left with him or would some have stayed or maybe go to other clubs. It was selfish, end of story |
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 13, 2020 13:07:43 GMT -5
I do respect everyone's views. There is no "good" time to make a move. I'll just end with this: had our coach not been fired (he was) just before the tryouts (and of course there couldn't be tryouts with CV19) none of our girls were put in a good position to make a decision at the last minute. There was one girl who wasn't on our team last year who had agreed to come to Norcross when Claude was the coach. Then when he was fired, it created a situation for them. I don't blame them for signing with a good team closer to their home. But what I mean in an earlier post was that of the 17 girls on our roster from last year there are 3 waiting on more information and 14 have signed with the new club. Soccermom, my apologies if I responded to you when I meant someone else. That was an error on my part. He wasn't fired, he was relocated to Forsyth. If he had been fired he wouldn't still be working at UFA. There are no guarantees that you will have the same team year after year. SM got to keep his teams longer because of his position at the club |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 13, 2020 13:34:03 GMT -5
I do respect everyone's views. There is no "good" time to make a move. I'll just end with this: had our coach not been fired (he was) just before the tryouts (and of course there couldn't be tryouts with CV19) none of our girls were put in a good position to make a decision at the last minute. There was one girl who wasn't on our team last year who had agreed to come to Norcross when Claude was the coach. Then when he was fired, it created a situation for them. I don't blame them for signing with a good team closer to their home. But what I mean in an earlier post was that of the 17 girls on our roster from last year there are 3 waiting on more information and 14 have signed with the new club. Soccermom, my apologies if I responded to you when I meant someone else. That was an error on my part. Wrong again. This girl played the entire season last year for Norcross and left for another club. And the new club is not closer to home it’s actually farther but not as far as Sugar Hill. |
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Post by soccerallstar on Jun 13, 2020 15:07:19 GMT -5
14 of the 17 chose to go and have accepted All-In. Other three are waiting on a little more information. 0 have said no. So the 9 staying is just misinformation. Whoever told SoccerMom is wrong. And for the record, ODP logo boy/DOC told lies here to try to divide the team. NO ONE WAS FORCED TO leave. Coach never asked one person to follow. People spoke with him, talked amongst each other, and it is what it is. SM spoke highly of Renata. Said if you choose to stay she's a good coach. I've met her. She's a good person. I have the recorded Zoom meeting to prove it. Now, back to ODP logo boy: the other thread was locked but before It was I asked you a couple questions that you were not allowed to answer so answer them here. 1. How many clubs had SM been at the last 15 years, and how many clubs has JS been at in just the last 5? _______________________________________ 2. If you were a CUSTOMER at UFA and JS fired your coach just a week before tyouts and there were not gonna be tryouts, and everyone was in limbo, who would YOU trust? SM who was loyal for 15 years or JS who has been to more clubs in 2 years than SM has been to in 15? ____________________ 3. Is it true that had JS not fired Claudin 1 week before tryouts that he would still have his 05 team at Norcross who finished 4th in SCCL-C and then went and added an ECNL and DA player, meaning they were going to be even stronger? _____________________________ Answers these and I'll tell you if you flunked the test or not. Now 14 of them decided to go but I am pretty sure 7 of them were leaning towards staying ( meaning neither of the two would have a full competitive team) but Coach Renata called these girls that were leaning toward staying and said it wasn’t fair to the girls to stay and have the rest of team filled with rec/ Lower level players. And kudos to her on putting the girls best interest before the clubs or her own (very different than other people). There are too many sides to this story, let’s stop putting the blame on people. It does look really bad for SM because of the timing as other people here have said, but he must have had his reasons to do things the way he did and I hope he has a clear conscience. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 14, 2020 11:03:47 GMT -5
It sounds like he may have hinged his future role at the club on GA soccer giving him 2 NL Piedmont spots... which is predicted on those families leaving UFA. There's a word for that...pawns.
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Post by upper90allday on Jun 16, 2020 15:21:02 GMT -5
How is Trey Henderson at AFU?
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 17, 2020 15:23:11 GMT -5
He's good. I think he works with the younger age groups unless it's changed over their?
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Post by soccermomma21 on Jun 19, 2020 16:52:25 GMT -5
Doe anyone know anything about Ricky Aguilar at UFA Forsyth?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 19, 2020 17:33:41 GMT -5
Doe anyone know anything about Ricky Aguilar at UFA Forsyth? Yes. He is nice and treats the kids well. He will never say anything mean. The kids love him. He is not going to push them too hard. PM me if you want more details. Whether he is the right fit for your kid depends on what you are looking for. |
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 19, 2020 17:38:04 GMT -5
Though I've never met Mr. Aguilar at UFAbut for what it's worth, I've only heard positives about him. I never heard a negative word about him. That's positives from parents, other UFA coaches as well as coaches from other clubs.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 19, 2020 22:45:12 GMT -5
This was shared with me last nite...
The Atlanta United 2020-21 Academy Head Coach Assignments:
U-12s: Mike Lynch
U-13s: Omar Jarun
U-14s: Matt Lawrey
U-15s: Steven Covino
U-16s: Zach Herold
U-17s: Jack Collison
U-19s: Rodrigo Rios
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 19, 2020 23:20:38 GMT -5
This was shared with me last nite... The Atlanta United 2020-21 Academy Head Coach Assignments: U-12s: Mike Lynch U-13s: Omar Jarun U-14s: Matt Lawrey U-15s: Steven Covino U-16s: Zach Herold U-17s: Jack Collison U-19s: Rodrigo Rios Interesting approach similar to many European clubs; coaches seem to stay in the age group and pass players on every year as they grow. In most other clubs here, coaches stay with same group of players for years. |
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