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Post by Respect on Aug 28, 2020 9:55:01 GMT -5
People what is so hard to understand, do the right thing, if caught doing the wrong thing, man up and take your punishment. Talking about snowflakes, who is the snowflake when they do the wrong thing and are afraid of the consequences. My son is not perfect, but he has been raised better than to steal and run away from cops. Did you raise your kids to steal? Did you raise your kids to not accept consequences? What is wrong with you people. I am done in this conversation. Nothing can be gained trying to talk some sense into all of you snowflakes. I'm not sure what you call the snowflakes' posts here are stating bad actors should not be punished. What is being questioned is whether or not the current practices and norms that enable "capital punishment" for certain crimes, specifically uncooperative, defiant, and hostile behavior toward authority are justified or commensurate to the act? am I wrong in thinking that we can do better? if I confront my son or cantgetright's son after committing a (petty) crime, and runs away from me should I shoot him? |
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Post by mistergrinch on Aug 28, 2020 10:18:25 GMT -5
People what is so hard to understand, do the right thing, if caught doing the wrong thing, man up and take your punishment. Talking about snowflakes, who is the snowflake when they do the wrong thing and are afraid of the consequences. My son is not perfect, but he has been raised better than to steal and run away from cops. Did you raise your kids to steal? Did you raise your kids to not accept consequences? What is wrong with you people. I am done in this conversation. Nothing can be gained trying to talk some sense into all of you snowflakes. then perhaps you can explain all the instances where people comply and get shot anyway? Tamir Rice, Philando Castile, Elijah McClain, Breonna Taylor.. just to name a few off the top of my head. How about Daniel Shaver (who is white) being shot for losing a game of simon says?
If you really think that compliance is a guarantee of safety.. then clearly nothing can be gained by trying to explain it to a snowflake like you.
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 28, 2020 10:51:05 GMT -5
People what is so hard to understand, do the right thing, if caught doing the wrong thing, man up and take your punishment. Talking about snowflakes, who is the snowflake when they do the wrong thing and are afraid of the consequences. My son is not perfect, but he has been raised better than to steal and run away from cops. Did you raise your kids to steal? Did you raise your kids to not accept consequences? What is wrong with you people. I am done in this conversation. Nothing can be gained trying to talk some sense into all of you snowflakes. puleez mansplain it even more for us snowflakes puleez oh puleez oh all-knowing sir |
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Post by footyfan on Aug 28, 2020 11:07:13 GMT -5
People what is so hard to understand, do the right thing, if caught doing the wrong thing, man up and take your punishment. Talking about snowflakes, who is the snowflake when they do the wrong thing and are afraid of the consequences. My son is not perfect, but he has been raised better than to steal and run away from cops. Did you raise your kids to steal? Did you raise your kids to not accept consequences? What is wrong with you people. I am done in this conversation. Nothing can be gained trying to talk some sense into all of you snowflakes. puleez mansplain it even more for us snowflakes puleez oh puleez oh all-knowing sir Whining about professional players peacefully kneeling/striking and then calling other people snowflakes is the richest desert I've had in a while. |
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Post by georgiasoccerdad on Aug 28, 2020 11:30:47 GMT -5
At what point are police officers also trained to understand, that now might not be the time to apprehended a suspect. I didn't realize he was stun gunned, didn't appear to faze him at all, -- but it would seem to just let him go, then track him down later with a more experienced and larger police presence and arrest the suspect. I guess it gets into will he hurt the children in the vehicle. Sure would hate to be the cop who lets a suspect leave only to have him commit a more brutal crime on someone else. Not good. Just get in the car and call a lawyer. Much better than the alternative. |
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Post by Respect on Aug 28, 2020 13:11:04 GMT -5
At what point are police officers also trained to understand, that now might not be the time to apprehended a suspect. I didn't realize he was stun gunned, didn't appear to faze him at all, -- but it would seem to just let him go, then track him down later with a more experienced and larger police presence and arrest the suspect. I guess it gets into will he hurt the children in the vehicle. Sure would hate to be the cop who lets a suspect leave only to have him commit a more brutal crime on someone else. Not good. Just get in the car and call a lawyer. Much better than the alternative. There are 1'000's of possible scenarios. From the suspect going to a priest to confess to go to a mall and shoot everyone. Are we saying that the best we can do is to kill the suspect just in case? or to dial-up a lawyer? or are we saying we need to self-improve and re-evaluate the use of lethal force in certain situations? all we can conclude with these diverging views is that there's a need for a serious, honest dialogue among all stakeholders on how best to serve and protect all citizens. Ignoring altogether a group's pain (or pretending is not real) is not clever for the sustainability of our government institutions or our democracy. |
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Post by rudy on Aug 28, 2020 15:31:43 GMT -5
I find it intriguing that the very behavior being criticized by the left is being exhibited by the same. Go check out the videos of the RNC attendees. It takes a great deal of their arguments. It cant be bad for one and ok for the other. Condemn it all regardless of which side you fall on.
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Post by Respect on Aug 28, 2020 15:55:12 GMT -5
I find it intriguing that the very behavior being criticized by the left is being exhibited by the same. Go check out the videos of the RNC attendees. It takes a great deal of their arguments. It cant be bad for one and ok for the other. Condemn it all regardless of which side you fall on. I condemn hatred and racism no matter where they come from. I believe human life is sacred and that the dignity of the human person is the foundation of a moral vision for society. |
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 28, 2020 16:24:06 GMT -5
glad they handcuffed him before he got shot 2,3,4,5,6 nope 7 times in the back bit.ly/3gEVVg6Black Jogger arrested for not giving his name & charged with assaulting police after being wrongfully arrested |
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Post by cantgetright on Aug 28, 2020 17:29:14 GMT -5
comply
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 28, 2020 17:59:36 GMT -5
Are you a cop? Is that why you are so offended? Btw very few people raise their kids to be thieves but yet many of them do shoplift. I hope your kid is the perfect paragon you think he is. I can tell you that my little brother had a no knock warrant executed at his house about 20 years ago over an ounce of Marijuana between three college age kids. They threatened them and threatened to shoot the 6 month old puppy that was barking at them when they barged in. Those cops were all on a power trip and a witch hunt. Today if one of those kids was in the kitchen with their knife chopping up vegetables they probably would have shot him. The cops are out of control. Not all of them, of course. There are many good cops out there. But there are enough bad apples and they need to be weeded out. They also need to work hard on unconscious bias. It exists. Recent article shows that black newborns die at a three times higher rate when a White doctor takes care of them than when a Black doctor does. Very few doctors would ever CONSCIOUSLY treat a patient (especially a BABY) differently because of skin color. Unconscious bias. medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-black-newborns-die-white-doctor.html |
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Post by cantgetright on Aug 28, 2020 18:08:49 GMT -5
SMH....... Did you write the article?
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Post by footyfan on Aug 28, 2020 19:20:23 GMT -5
It's been 100 years and women are still not treated as equals even though they work, play and vote side by side with men. To suggest 55 years was enough to end the systemic racism that undeniably existed before then is the luxury of simple-minds.
Remember who they are. Forgive them if you can. And pray that all our childrens' lives are as uncomplicated as their imagination.
I'm with Futsal Goddess. Time to step away from the conversation.
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Post by rifle on Aug 28, 2020 20:25:26 GMT -5
I find it intriguing that the very behavior being criticized by the left is being exhibited by the same. Go check out the videos of the RNC attendees. It takes a great deal of their arguments. It cant be bad for one and ok for the other. Condemn it all regardless of which side you fall on. I have no idea what point you are attempting here, Rudy. Can you please explain? |
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 28, 2020 20:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by justwatching on Aug 28, 2020 21:18:19 GMT -5
Exactly. Please stop engaging with this person. If he isn't trolling he is a lost cause. He will never attempt to listen, understand, or have a lick of empathy. |
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Post by cantgetright on Aug 30, 2020 20:53:05 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 2, 2020 15:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Sept 2, 2020 15:17:17 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 2, 2020 15:34:24 GMT -5
Here is the guy that broke the story from The Athletic [Felipe Cardenas ]
A $4 million profit and he wasn't truly "successful" in Atlanta. Can you imagine if he'd delivered, AU may have been able to get a whole lot more for him on the open market...
Sources: Atlanta United agrees to sell Pity Martínez to Saudi club Al-Nassr By Felipe Cardenas
Sources confirmed to The Athletic that Atlanta United has agreed to terms that will send designated player Pity Martínez to Al-Nassr FC in Saudi Arabia pending a medical and the agreement of personal terms. Martínez has agreed to the move, according to multiple sources, and will not feature tonight versus Inter Miami CF.
TyC’s Cesar Luis Merlo was first to report that Atlanta United and the player were evaluating an $18 million offer from the Saudi club.
If that fee holds, Martínez’s sale is a good bit of business for Atlanta United, which reportedly paid a club record $14 million for the former River Plate star. One source with knowledge of the deal said that Atlanta United will make a profit off the transfer to Al-Nassr. Additionally, Martínez’s move leaves the club with an open DP spot and an open international roster spot. Sources say that Atlanta United, which is desperate to regain its attacking identity following the departure of Frank de Boer in July, will more than likely fill the DP spot with an attacking player during this current transfer window.
In the short term, the transfer leaves interim manager Stephen Glass with a hole to fill in his starting XI, but could signal that Ezequiel Barco, Atlanta United’s other active DP, may not be sold until the winter.
Atlanta United’s next DP must deliver in ways that Martínez did not after signing for the club in January of 2019. In 39 regular-season appearances with Atlanta, Martínez recorded seven goals and 11 assists, an underwhelming stat point considering his valuation.
Flashes of elite skill and big-game performances against Club América in last season’s Campeones Cup, and again versus Minnesota United in the 2019 U.S. Open Cup final proved that Martínez, a former South American Player of the Year, could potentially meet his expectations as an MLS DP. But ultimately, those effective performances were few and far between.
“My head wasn’t in the right place last season,” Martínez said following a two-goal performance in February against FC Motagua. ”But this is the Pity that you all want to see.”
After replacing Miguel Almirón and donning the club’s No. 10 jersey, Martínez never truly settled tactically in Atlanta. He also clashed with De Boer last summer after the former manager referred to Martínez’s defensive work rate as “a danger to the team.” At the start of this season, Martínez showed some positive form, but his performances dipped along with the rest of Atlanta United’s squad during the club’s winless, goal-less performance at the MLS is Back tournament in Orlando.
The departure of De Boer and Martínez’s brace against Nashville SC on August 22nd seemingly set the stage for the player to lead a new Atlanta United era in the absence of injured striker Josef Martínez. Instead, Atlanta will say goodbye to another locker room leader after the retirement of Michael Parkhurst and the transfers of Leandro Gonzalez Pirez, Darlington Nagbe and Julian Gressel.
Yet, from a business perspective, Atlanta United has come out of this deal in a very good place. Making a profit on Martínez can be seen as a win considering he player did not fulfill the lofty expectations with which he entered the league. Now, the freed-up capital from this sale (plus the open roster spot) can be used to strengthen the roster.
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Post by mistergrinch on Sept 2, 2020 16:06:58 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 2, 2020 16:38:48 GMT -5
Makes ya wonder when Josef returns -- it might be a completely different side besides escobar and Guzan.
I forgot, when they signed pity, was it known Deboring was going to be the coach?
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Post by bogan on Sept 2, 2020 16:43:20 GMT -5
Makes ya wonder when Josef returns -- it might be a completely different side besides escobar and Guzan. I forgot, when they signed pity, was it known Deboring was going to be the coach? Josef walking into the locker room: “¿Donde esta mi equipo?” |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 2, 2020 16:50:16 GMT -5
Makes ya wonder when Josef returns -- it might be a completely different side besides escobar and Guzan. I forgot, when they signed pity, was it known Deboring was going to be the coach? Josef walking into the locker room: “¿Donde esta mi equipo?” he can't be happy right now. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 2, 2020 16:53:07 GMT -5
Josef walking into the locker room: “¿Donde esta mi equipo?” he can't be happy right now. Nope... |
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Post by bogan on Sept 2, 2020 17:03:53 GMT -5
Makes ya wonder when Josef returns -- it might be a completely different side besides escobar and Guzan. I forgot, when they signed pity, was it known Deboring was going to be the coach? To answer the question-yes “I'm very excited to come to Major League Soccer and to join Atlanta United," Martínez said in a statement. "The club has shown a lot of trust in me and I'm looking forward to working with Frank de Boer and my teammates to continue making history at the club." |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 2, 2020 17:55:28 GMT -5
Makes ya wonder when Josef returns -- it might be a completely different side besides escobar and Guzan. I forgot, when they signed pity, was it known Deboring was going to be the coach? Josef walking into the locker room: “¿Donde esta mi equipo?” Very true. Poor Josef. Though I am impressed with how much English he has learned. It is not an easy language to learn. He also has really embraced Atlanta as a city. I hope they will get some strong supporting staff around him for his return. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 2, 2020 18:30:54 GMT -5
Josef walking into the locker room: “¿Donde esta mi equipo?” Very true. Poor Josef. Though I am impressed with how much English he has learned. It is not an easy language to learn. He also has really embraced Atlanta as a city. I hope they will get some strong supporting staff around him for his return. Most definitely-not a knock on his language skills-just me being silly 🙃. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 2, 2020 19:08:07 GMT -5
Very true. Poor Josef. Though I am impressed with how much English he has learned. It is not an easy language to learn. He also has really embraced Atlanta as a city. I hope they will get some strong supporting staff around him for his return. Most definitely-not a knock on his language skills-just me being silly 🙃. Oh I know. It just made me think about it. So impressed with him because it is nerve wracking to speak a new language to native but to give interviews on camera in a new language is super brave! |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 2, 2020 20:08:42 GMT -5
Pretty sure Josef has played his last game for Atlanta. Time to sell off all the assets or last contracts expire while building through youth.
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