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Post by liverpoolfc on Jun 17, 2020 7:54:42 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 17, 2020 7:58:20 GMT -5
Their only chance of survival is to recruit in every non-ECNL club: Go after all those clubs that can't get into ecnl.
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Post by liverpoolfc on Jun 17, 2020 8:03:11 GMT -5
Their only chance of survival is to recruit in every non-ECNL club: Go after all those clubs that can't get into ecnl. Which I believe is their game plan and I believe there may be a cap on the number of clubs the league is looking to bring. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 17, 2020 8:29:05 GMT -5
Yea sorry, I mean like even those clubs that never ever had DA or ECNL -- clubs that neither would ever allow in -- that is where there only chance lies (however you spell it..)
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 17, 2020 8:31:16 GMT -5
Taking over what? Sorry, I don’t think ecnl is worried |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 17, 2020 8:34:06 GMT -5
So they finally ponied up some money to pay for and keep their website stable. They've quietly been dealing with all kinds of issues including a takeover of their website that necessitated a take down and on another occasion, returning it to the base WordPress profile backup. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't some of the former GDA teams opt to go with ECRL in lieu of GAL as their top teams out west? Specifically within the Southeast, what would happen to that division if TH were to leave? With that said, my question is this - Should any of these teams in the GAL be offered a spot in ECNL, would they drop everything, rip off their GAL Patches, duct tape on their new ECNL patches and zoom off to the ECNL or would they stay put in the best league in the country(TG's words)? Asking for a friend 🤭🙂🤭
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Post by cleansheet on Jun 17, 2020 9:08:56 GMT -5
Hmmm tophat moved to Macon? |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 17, 2020 9:10:11 GMT -5
Hmmm tophat moved to Macon? They also have one of the Massachusetts clubs having moved to Maine. That being said I have seen the same issues with the dots on ECNL club maps as well. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 17, 2020 9:15:54 GMT -5
I don't think they are going to take over anything, however they have 3 showcase events posted and the location of the finals posted. They are doing an identification process of the best players who will play each other at showcases like ECNL does. They have several YNT players who have stayed with their clubs and they are showcasing them on their twitter account and their other online marketing materials. It will be a good league and people shouldn't scoff at it, but they will. One interesting thing is they actually have a player representative from each club/conference on an advisory board so the players get a say in how things are run. I am not sure that any other league does that. I could be wrong. |
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 17, 2020 9:20:09 GMT -5
ECNL = SCCL-C
GA League = SCCL-P
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Jun 17, 2020 9:39:18 GMT -5
I find it humorous how people are putting down a league that is yet to even have their first game or even practice. Do I believe they will be the best league? Not in year one because they have to see what they have and fix the problems that occur. Yes the league lost some good clubs and players but it is because of the unknown not because of the league. The clubs that are there have a good reputation and that will help grow the league. When ECNL started out I am sure many of us said they would not survive but look at them now, same as SCCL.
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Post by justwatching on Jun 17, 2020 9:56:54 GMT -5
ECNL = SCCL-C GA League = SCCL-P SMH... isn't your daughter playing in the GA League? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 17, 2020 9:58:01 GMT -5
This map makes me sad. LOL, Sporting St Louis and Lou Fusz are in different conferences (they're in the same city). Pretty dumb of NTH to not recruit Roswell, AFC and Inter Atlanta (clubs sized #7, #8 and #9 in Georgia). Tophat: "We want to have a top-tier league. We just want it to be REALLY exclusive (in Georgia ONLY) to make travel worse. Seriously, West Florida is better than the local Georgia clubs for us to choose from, they were in DA after all." I expect this and DPL to crumble fairly quickly in the Southeast. I know there were DPL parents who weren't happy about last year, but now DPL has 10 clubs in the SE...9 in Florida. Even Mount Pleasant GTFO and they were #1 or #2 in most of the brackets last year. FG: ECNL should consider IMG, Weston and/or United Soccer Alliance next. Weston and IMG would complement the existing ECNL clubs in their cities. Plus 8-9 clubs in Florida would make a nice Sunshine conference, 14-16 games, very solid. Roll TN and SC into the Southeast conference, 10 clubs, 18 games, again...very solid. New ECNL map is out: 149363092.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020-21-Girls-ECNL-Club-Map-as-of-6120.001.jpeg |
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 17, 2020 10:19:57 GMT -5
ECNL = SCCL-C GA League = SCCL-P SMH... isn't your daughter playing in the GA League? GA League hahahaha NOPE - ECNL |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jun 17, 2020 10:22:18 GMT -5
I find it humorous how people are putting down a league that is yet to even have their first game or even practice. Do I believe they will be the best league? Not in year one because they have to see what they have and fix the problems that occur. Yes the league lost some good clubs and players but it is because of the unknown not because of the league. The clubs that are there have a good reputation and that will help grow the league. When ECNL started out I am sure many of us said they would not survive but look at them now, same as SCCL. Agreed. I remember not too long ago people bashed the SCCL continuously. Some still do, but I think those that do know very little about to begin with. My guess, and it's only a guess for any of us, is that it will be a good league and will have top tier teams that can compete with those in the ECNL. They just won't have as many of those top tier teams... that doesn't make it inferior, just not as deep, maybe? Idk, Can't find the right word for it... |
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Post by justwatching on Jun 17, 2020 10:29:22 GMT -5
SMH... isn't your daughter playing in the GA League? GA League hahahaha NOPE - ECNL Yeah OK sure   |
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Post by baller84 on Jun 17, 2020 10:29:49 GMT -5
SMH... isn't your daughter playing in the GA League? GA League hahahaha NOPE - ECNL And you equate ECNL to SCCL? How interesting ..... |
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Post by baller84 on Jun 17, 2020 10:31:06 GMT -5
ECNL = SCCL-C GA League = SCCL-P Too funny  |
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Post by soccer55 on Jun 17, 2020 10:49:12 GMT -5
I'm interested in what this league will look like locally but nationally. I know ECNL has expanded a lot but it's a curse as it loses some of it's exclusivity. My friends in the midwest (chicagoland specifically) have said that the GA teams are recruiting better talent at the moment than the ECNL because it's a stronger conference and travel is more reasonable than ECNL.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 17, 2020 10:58:13 GMT -5
I'm interested in what this league will look like locally but nationally. I know ECNL has expanded a lot but it's a curse as it loses some of it's exclusivity. My friends in the midwest (chicagoland specifically) have said that the GA teams are recruiting better talent at the moment than the ECNL because it's a stronger conference and travel is more reasonable than ECNL. I think that you have hit on something. The mid-America conference is very strong as is the Northeast and mid- Atlantic. These three conferences are nearly identical to the DA conferences. They added a few teams but lost very few teams from the DA conferences. The Southeast, Southwest, Frontier and Northwest lost more of the DA clubs so they may lose more talent to ECNL (like Tophat did at certain age groups). Regardless I think the league will be strong. The teams added have been pretty strong clubs. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 17, 2020 11:03:06 GMT -5
You lost me at "stronger conference". Other than the Nebraska and Kansas, the travel seems about equal. But 14 clubs, yikes. ECNL does need to re-balance the Ohio Valley and Midwest conferences (as well as Texas, Southeast, Mid Atlantic and Northwest).
Exclusivity shouldn't matter that much to ECNL, so long as they have the best clubs (who didn't piss them off). I expect bigger ECNL changes/additions next year. The more clubs they get, the smaller the conferences and more sensical travel.
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Post by soccer55 on Jun 17, 2020 11:09:44 GMT -5
You lost me at "stronger conference". Other than the Nebraska and Kansas, the travel seems about equal. But 14 clubs, yikes. ECNL does need to re-balance the Ohio Valley and Midwest conferences (as well as Texas, Southeast, Mid Atlantic and Northwest). Exclusivity shouldn't matter that much to ECNL, so long as they have the best clubs (who didn't piss them off). I expect bigger ECNL changes/additions next year. The more clubs they get, the smaller the conferences and more sensical travel. Yeah, who knows. I think ECNL has the better following but this new league does seem to have a lot in the midwest pretty excited. It would be nice if these two leagues played each other more often but youth sports is more about milking $$ from parents and less about youth development or enjoyment for kids. |
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 17, 2020 11:09:44 GMT -5
I know ECNL has expanded a lot but it's a curse as it loses some of it's exclusivity. still exclusive - ask NTH |
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Post by soccer55 on Jun 17, 2020 11:14:31 GMT -5
I know ECNL has expanded a lot but it's a curse as it loses some of it's exclusivity. still exclusive - ask NTH Yeah, it will all fall into place over the next few years. The way it's looking is its going to be regional stronger areas for ECNL and stronger areas for GAL |
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Post by fridge on Jun 17, 2020 12:17:00 GMT -5
So, you honestly think that there are "stronger" GAL regions than ECNL? I just looked at the GAL list and I literally have not heard of a large portion of the clubs. I am not saying that it perhaps won't have some competition, but the overwhelming majority of top clubs in every state are ECNL clubs. Didn't we already resolve that of the top DA clubs, about 80% moved to ECNL? As for the comment that GAL is winning in Chicago, I am hard pressed to believe that given Eclipse is there. Here in GA, an iconic soccer brand lost over 30 players. I strongly suspect it was the same throughout the country.
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Post by fridge on Jun 17, 2020 13:05:43 GMT -5
Also, note--other GAL teams are saying how great GAL is and they have teams like TH in it still. Again, they say this not realizing or acknowledging TH will be a shadow of itself from 04-08.
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Post by BubbleDad on Jun 17, 2020 13:31:13 GMT -5
Also, note--other GAL teams are saying how great GAL is and they have teams like TH in it still. Again, they say this not realizing or acknowledging TH will be a shadow of itself from 04-08. I thought '06 only lost 3. I'll be definitely interested in seeing how the 07 perform. As a product of the NASA Tophat migration, I'm rooting for the '07s that remain because they are mostly out of Metro North. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 17, 2020 13:34:32 GMT -5
Also, note--other GAL teams are saying how great GAL is and they have teams like TH in it still. Again, they say this not realizing or acknowledging TH will be a shadow of itself from 04-08. The real question to ask each of the GAL teams is: did you apply for ECNL? If they applied for ECNL, they would have a tough time saying that GAL is a better league. Why apply to an inferior league? |
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Post by justwatching on Jun 17, 2020 13:34:59 GMT -5
Also, note--other GAL teams are saying how great GAL is and they have teams like TH in it still. Again, they say this not realizing or acknowledging TH will be a shadow of itself from 04-08. I thought '06 only lost 3. I'll be definitely interested in seeing how the 07 perform. As a product of the NASA Tophat migration, I'm rooting for the '07s that remain because they are mostly out of Metro North. I believe the 06s lost 2 and picked up one former DA player from UFA and one came back from Concorde Premiere that left TH the year before |
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Post by justwatching on Jun 17, 2020 13:39:53 GMT -5
Also, note--other GAL teams are saying how great GAL is and they have teams like TH in it still. Again, they say this not realizing or acknowledging TH will be a shadow of itself from 04-08. I thought '06 only lost 3. I'll be definitely interested in seeing how the 07 perform. As a product of the NASA Tophat migration, I'm rooting for the '07s that remain because they are mostly out of Metro North. What team did the North Metro 07s kids play for last year? |
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