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Sept 10, 2020 17:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Sept 10, 2020 17:57:35 GMT -5
Got an email today about ODP-no start date, but hope to restart soon...acknowledging changes at top of GA ODP.
Anybody hearing anything else they want to share?
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Sept 10, 2020 19:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by soccernoleuk on Sept 10, 2020 19:59:54 GMT -5
I am curious to hear any additional info as well. The last I heard, ODP tryouts weren't taking place until sometime in early 2021.
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Sept 10, 2020 21:44:46 GMT -5
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Post by soccernotfootball on Sept 10, 2020 21:44:46 GMT -5
Heard it'll start back in October with the current pools. No tryouts, players will be added by scouting and/or invites.
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Sept 10, 2020 21:58:47 GMT -5
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 10, 2020 21:58:47 GMT -5
Heard it'll start back in October with the current pools. No tryouts, players will be added by scouting and/or invites. Interesting. Very different than what has been communicated and what is stated on the website. Somebody has hit the ground running - I like it.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Sept 10, 2020 23:05:18 GMT -5
Great to see. My son had such a great experience with ODP.
Maybe GA soccer can make this the main focus in order to build back.
It's a win win for the players
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Sept 11, 2020 5:57:26 GMT -5
Hello again, Kostas here… Apologies for another email this evening but in speaking with several of you, one message resonated with me…to elevate our level of communication and provide some updates along with the exciting news of ODP starting in October! The well-known American author, John C. Maxwell, prophetically wrote; “Change is inevitable. Growth is optional.” There is no doubt that we all had to adjust in so many ways and change how we do nearly everything in 2020…being able to have games again on weekends and training during the week is a reflection of all of us doing the right things for the game, the communities and our families. I’m honored to step in to this role at Georgia Soccer feeling inspired to serve the growth of the game while providing the highest possible value to our membership which is why one of our association’s top priorities is ODP. Our leagues have kicked off the Fall season on schedule and in fantastic fashion; National League, GPL and our Athena/Classic divisions are off and running beautifully. State Cup preparations are in place with the exciting new format of play that will culminate in crowning our State Champions later this year (for the 15U – 19U ages)…I hope you are all following the FIFA Champions League style seeding and draw this week. We are also working with US Soccer and our US Youth Soccer leadership to reset our Coaching Education curriculum, licenses and additional supporting materials in preparation for more virtual, blended and even live opportunities to better support our Georgia coaches and ultimately, our Georgia players. In the spirit of progress, we are thrilled to announce that ODP will not wait to 2021 to restart; October is the month and it is right around the corner! As part of the process, we are in preparation for the following (with more details to come in a couple of weeks): Every player from 2019-2020 ODP roster will be offered a position on the 2020-2021 squad! Many top coaches across the state have asked to be a part of this program and we are working on finalizing the staff for announcement. There will be a sub-regional event in January and in preparation for that, we are in discussions to have friendlies in December closer to home and without the need to have an overnight stay. We are also looking at the financials of the program…Georgia Soccer has always offered among the lowest fees for participation in ODP; well, we are evaluating options to provide even more ways of support to our families here and thus, ensuring even more value to the program. Our players will also enjoy more innovation in programming with more resources (yes, I’m teasing this a bit but there are some real cool things in the works) The final details for the above are obviously no completed yet but I’m thrilled that we are on the right path and looking forward to soon connect with you in person as well…on the sideline, watching our kids represent Georgia! Of course, in getting back to play (as we have done with our leagues and tournaments), we WILL NOT be reckless but show incredible respect to the conditions that provide us an opportunity to play this game in a safe and fun manner. Hope this information is useful; stand by for more and thank you again for your continued support of the game! K.
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 11, 2020 8:12:23 GMT -5
Unlike most other coaches, Kostas was a business person first, coach second. It truly provides a different perspective on organization and communication. No guarantee of success for Georgia Soccer or ODP, but his skillset will be a welcome addition.
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Post by disturbed on Sept 11, 2020 14:04:20 GMT -5
I feel that not having an actual try out is wrong on several levels. 1) You're depreciating the hardwork alot of the kids who didn't make it last year put it during this pandemic. Secondly, my child made a team and her tryout consisted of absolutely demolishing an ODP player, which I have video evidence of. Also, I personally know 2 parents that have said they had a reputable trainer get their child on the team last year. I have seen my child destroy some of these previous 2019 2020 players. Why, at the very least not ask the coaches on top teams to suggest 3 or 4 kids? Why, just go off last year? I know players that aren't even planning on returning. This isn't very fair or assuring for future players. ECNL kicks off this weekend for all age groups. Why not evaluate talent throughout the weeks? This just seems shortsighted and of course anyone who's child made the team last year is going to think this is an amazing process. All we want is a fair chance. To show it and prove it on the pitch!!
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Post by blu on Sept 11, 2020 14:18:33 GMT -5
My child has no interest in ODP but I do think you should have tryouts. With the fall of DA you've got a much bigger talent pool to choose from, plus players change from year to year. If the kids are already playing then I'm sure ODP could also come up with a way to safely hold some form of tryouts....
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Post by soccerspin on Sept 11, 2020 14:24:12 GMT -5
Understand the concern, but most clubs did not have (formal) tryouts this year either. I think in ODP’s case, they’ve always been open to player recommendations from coaches and/or DOCs. Perhaps you can start there to get your player a look when it starts back up next month?
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Sept 11, 2020 14:42:58 GMT -5
From what Kostas said they WILL evaluate and offer additional spots as needed/open per age group, they will ask clubs etc, however with wanted to get started in a month and to be fair to those who got 1/2 a season last year- this is a starting point.
Not everyone will return so spits will be open!
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 11, 2020 15:59:32 GMT -5
Training day and location will be the big factors. Friday evenings in Conyers? No thank you. Sunday evenings at Franklin Gateway or AU Training Ground? Yes, please.
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Sept 11, 2020 17:56:56 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on Sept 11, 2020 17:56:56 GMT -5
I feel that not having an actual try out is wrong on several levels. 1) You're depreciating the hardwork alot of the kids who didn't make it last year put it during this pandemic. Secondly, my child made a team and her tryout consisted of absolutely demolishing an ODP player, which I have video evidence of. Also, I personally know 2 parents that have said they had a reputable trainer get their child on the team last year. I have seen my child destroy some of these previous 2019 2020 players. Why, at the very least not ask the coaches on top teams to suggest 3 or 4 kids? Why, just go off last year? I know players that aren't even planning on returning. This isn't very fair or assuring for future players. ECNL kicks off this weekend for all age groups. Why not evaluate talent throughout the weeks? This just seems shortsighted and of course anyone who's child made the team last year is going to think this is an amazing process. All we want is a fair chance. To show it and prove it on the pitch!! Lol to this "Secondly, my child made a team and her tryout consisted of absolutely demolishing an ODP player, which I have video evidence of." This season's evaluations in place of tryouts was quite hilarious. My family literally was in quarantine while a bunch of other kids were not missing a beat still training and carrying on. I feel like if you genuinely were quarantined you were punished and didn't get key evaluations that some other kids got. In relation to ODP, I feel there should be some type of evaluation for newcomers. Maybe you can submit video footage of your child or something.
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Post by bogan on Sept 11, 2020 20:25:15 GMT -5
Training day and location will be the big factors. Friday evenings in Conyers? No thank you. Sunday evenings at Franklin Gateway or AU Training Ground? Yes, please. I don’t like Conyers on any day ending in y.
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Post by atlutd17 on Sept 11, 2020 22:30:06 GMT -5
I feel that not having an actual try out is wrong on several levels. 1) You're depreciating the hardwork alot of the kids who didn't make it last year put it during this pandemic. Secondly, my child made a team and her tryout consisted of absolutely demolishing an ODP player, which I have video evidence of. Also, I personally know 2 parents that have said they had a reputable trainer get their child on the team last year. I have seen my child destroy some of these previous 2019 2020 players. Why, at the very least not ask the coaches on top teams to suggest 3 or 4 kids? Why, just go off last year? I know players that aren't even planning on returning. This isn't very fair or assuring for future players. ECNL kicks off this weekend for all age groups. Why not evaluate talent throughout the weeks? This just seems shortsighted and of course anyone who's child made the team last year is going to think this is an amazing process. All we want is a fair chance. To show it and prove it on the pitch!! Lol to this "Secondly, my child made a team and her tryout consisted of absolutely demolishing an ODP player, which I have video evidence of." This season's evaluations in place of tryouts was quite hilarious. My family literally was in quarantine while a bunch of other kids were not missing a beat still training and carrying on. I feel like if you genuinely were quarantined you were punished and didn't get key evaluations that some other kids got. In relation to ODP, I feel there should be some type of evaluation for newcomers. Maybe you can submit video footage of your child or something. Coaches usually want recent feedback. Also, video footage is not the same as video of an entire match as they tend to have highlights and only the positives without the mistakes. How about ongoing direct scouting during league matches throughout the season and State Cup, combined by feedback from club coaches?
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Sept 11, 2020 22:53:39 GMT -5
Post by atlsoccerdad on Sept 11, 2020 22:53:39 GMT -5
Lol to this "Secondly, my child made a team and her tryout consisted of absolutely demolishing an ODP player, which I have video evidence of." This season's evaluations in place of tryouts was quite hilarious. My family literally was in quarantine while a bunch of other kids were not missing a beat still training and carrying on. I feel like if you genuinely were quarantined you were punished and didn't get key evaluations that some other kids got. In relation to ODP, I feel there should be some type of evaluation for newcomers. Maybe you can submit video footage of your child or something. Coaches usually want recent feedback. Also, video footage is not the same as video of an entire match as they tend to have highlights and only the positives without the mistakes. How about ongoing direct scouting during league matches throughout the season and State Cup, combined by feedback from club coaches? Agree completely. Scouting is very important to developing a solid American soccer system - and should be continuous and consistent throughout the season. Scouting done correctly could replace tryouts. Scouting should very easy to do in this age of technology... effective scouting just amounts to collecting and communicating information effectively. With that being said, it should also be easy to keep websites (ECNL?) up to date with schedules and scores...
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 11, 2020 23:17:52 GMT -5
I work with the current 08 Boys Pool, it's my understanding there will be other methods of identification this year in lieu of the formal tryout process and that players may be added. Please be on the lookout for information in the coming weeks.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Sept 12, 2020 10:55:32 GMT -5
I work with the current 08 Boys Pool, it's my understanding there will be other methods of identification this year in lieu of the formal tryout process and that players may be added. Please be on the lookout for information in the coming weeks. Not 08 related, necessarily, but and overall ODP comment... If you can bend someone's ear that has control over these things: + Why training on Friday nights when most kids are playing games on Saturday? I would think Sunday evening or even a Monday evening would be a good time (anecdotally- we've never had Monday training w/ club and neither have friends at other clubs). + Training should be at least once a week. + More games. Only having regional, etc. is a bit odd. Plenty of clubs in the metro area would scrimmage against the ODP teams. Also, with friends out of state, their ODP teams seem to play games a lot - whether friendlies with local clubs or friendlies with other state ODPs. + Why the HUGE pool? And if you have that many kids - more games, please!!! Just suggestions... ;-)
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 12, 2020 11:08:30 GMT -5
I work with the current 08 Boys Pool, it's my understanding there will be other methods of identification this year in lieu of the formal tryout process and that players may be added. Please be on the lookout for information in the coming weeks. Not 08 related, necessarily, but and overall ODP comment... If you can bend someone's ear that has control over these things: + Why training on Friday nights when most kids are playing games on Saturday? I would think Sunday evening or even a Monday evening would be a good time (anecdotally- we've never had Monday training w/ club and neither have friends at other clubs). + Training should be at least once a week. + More games. Only having regional, etc. is a bit odd. Plenty of clubs in the metro area would scrimmage against the ODP teams. Also, with friends out of state, their ODP teams seem to play games a lot - whether friendlies with local clubs or friendlies with other state ODPs. + Why the HUGE pool? And if you have that many kids - more games, please!!! Just suggestions... ;-) Every year my kids have played club soccer with 3 (or more) trainings per week we have had Monday trainings (that has been with three different clubs over an 8 year period and 2 kids playing). Both kids have Mondays now. Occasionally they will have Mondays canceled to allow for rest after a travel weekend or tournament but generally Mondays we train with our team. I do agree that Friday nights are tough especially if there is an early Saturday game and for many players they may miss due to travel. There is no perfect day though. I agree with the remainder of your comments about more friendlies and games. I think once per week training is tough but twice per month during season would work and once per week in off season sounds good
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 12, 2020 15:45:43 GMT -5
Not 08 related, necessarily, but and overall ODP comment... If you can bend someone's ear that has control over these things: + Why training on Friday nights when most kids are playing games on Saturday? I would think Sunday evening or even a Monday evening would be a good time (anecdotally- we've never had Monday training w/ club and neither have friends at other clubs). + Training should be at least once a week. + More games. Only having regional, etc. is a bit odd. Plenty of clubs in the metro area would scrimmage against the ODP teams. Also, with friends out of state, their ODP teams seem to play games a lot - whether friendlies with local clubs or friendlies with other state ODPs. + Why the HUGE pool? And if you have that many kids - more games, please!!! Just suggestions... ;-) Every year my kids have played club soccer with 3 (or more) trainings per week we have had Monday trainings (that has been with three different clubs over an 8 year period and 2 kids playing). Both kids have Mondays now. Occasionally they will have Mondays canceled to allow for rest after a travel weekend or tournament but generally Mondays we train with our team. I do agree that Friday nights are tough especially if there is an early Saturday game and for many players they may miss due to travel. There is no perfect day though. I agree with the remainder of your comments about more friendlies and games. I think once per week training is tough but twice per month during season would work and once per week in off season sounds good Friday nights are best to ensure max attendance, most coaches don't want their players training on Sat/Sun on days they have games, depending on the level of the club teams the players are on they may be out of town on Sat/Sun. Additionally since we practice at the Atlanta United training facility we have to coordinate with their schedules, I assume most of the fields are being used on the weekends. ODP practices are different than club practices, many coaches are doing heavy fitness with and without the ball while we are working on phases of play, teaching possession and other tactics....which is probably less impactful on the body than a regular club practice. For the 08s we have a larger pool to accommodate three teams for events and games, players will have club obligations on the weekends and miss events, it's rare that we have every player attend for ODP games. Also you expect some natural attrition as they get older. When we coached the 2002 Boys at U12 we eventually had 17 players picked for the Region Pool and many of them ended up going on to play for Atlanta United, so we lost a number of players the following year.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Sept 12, 2020 19:46:21 GMT -5
+ don’t hold it against the player if they did not attend the first sub regional as the mantra is supposed to be club commitment > ODP
Back story is that my son missed the NC sub-regional in early January because he was playing in a tournament with his club team. When selections were made for regional championship tournament, he was told point-blank that he was good enough, but wasn’t being selected because he didn’t go to sub-regionals. (Decisions are based on selection by region scouts AND by state coaches based on training)
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Sept 13, 2020 22:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 13, 2020 22:00:03 GMT -5
Training day and location will be the big factors. Friday evenings in Conyers? No thank you. Sunday evenings at Franklin Gateway or AU Training Ground? Yes, please. Funny as our group is anything at rysa, Norcross or Inter yes please. AUFC/Franklin Gateway no thank you, maybe next year.
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Sept 14, 2020 8:17:05 GMT -5
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Sept 14, 2020 8:17:05 GMT -5
For the girls I know it’s at Inter again. Mix of Fri and Sun again.
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Sept 30, 2020 10:51:15 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Sept 30, 2020 10:51:15 GMT -5
Any more recently released info?
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Sept 30, 2020 11:14:15 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 30, 2020 11:14:15 GMT -5
There is an email address for requesting a tryout assessment scouting@georgiasoccer.org . Nothing yet about when practices start up. bogan you have an 06 girl, correct? If not, I may be confusing you with another NTH parent.
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Sept 30, 2020 11:49:06 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 30, 2020 11:49:06 GMT -5
Sounds like boys will train out at Brook Run Park in Dunwoody.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 1, 2020 9:37:30 GMT -5
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Oct 1, 2020 13:33:28 GMT -5
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Post by datrain on Oct 1, 2020 13:33:28 GMT -5
Where are these coaches from? I don’t see any recognizable names from NASA (my son’s home club). Is that normal? Are there coaches from the other bigger clubs?
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Post by mistergrinch on Oct 1, 2020 14:11:34 GMT -5
Where are these coaches from? I don’t see any recognizable names from NASA (my son’s home club). Is that normal? Are there coaches from the other bigger clubs? I recognize maybe 3 or 4 on there.. missing a lot of names I would have expected.
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Oct 1, 2020 14:11:59 GMT -5
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Post by jkdub1 on Oct 1, 2020 14:11:59 GMT -5
Where are these coaches from? I don’t see any recognizable names from NASA (my son’s home club). Is that normal? Are there coaches from the other bigger clubs? Jennifer Kirby - Inter Atlanta girls DOC Kerem Daser - North Georgia Soccer Academy Director That’s all I can contribute
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