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Oct 9, 2020 12:54:23 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 9, 2020 12:54:23 GMT -5
I wonder if its simply due to clubs losing it as a recruiting tool.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 9, 2020 16:59:04 GMT -5
So, looks like the US Club coaches have been replaced in ODP, have US Club players been encouraged to not attend ODP? From the past years we did ODP pretty much some of the top talent at Tophat or Concorde Fire were already not involved. On the girls side it was pretty much Atlanta Fire Ecnl girls and smaller clubs. Will that continue? Yep. Both SCCL clubs for us said they preferred players to stay away from ODP especially after Ga Soccer didn’t ask most SCCL coaches to come back. It seems to have become a pissing contest between the two organizations right now as neither one want to grow up and care about the kids and program. We are at an SCCL Club and play on an SCCL team. Our coach suggested we tryout for ODP and thinks it would be a great opportunity. Our coach also feels we should have a spot on the ECNL team and thinks we were cheated by the lack of "official tryouts" this year, so maybe we are an exception to the rule. Honestly if our club told us to stay away from ODP it would probably push us even harder towards it. I don't really care what is best for the club or GA Soccer, just what is best for my child. The more opportunities to play with higher level competition, the better. |
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Oct 9, 2020 22:17:42 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Oct 9, 2020 22:17:42 GMT -5
Yep. Both SCCL clubs for us said they preferred players to stay away from ODP especially after Ga Soccer didn’t ask most SCCL coaches to come back. It seems to have become a pissing contest between the two organizations right now as neither one want to grow up and care about the kids and program. We are at an SCCL Club and play on an SCCL team. Our coach suggested we tryout for ODP and thinks it would be a great opportunity. Our coach also feels we should have a spot on the ECNL team and thinks we were cheated by the lack of "official tryouts" this year, so maybe we are an exception to the rule. Honestly if our club told us to stay away from ODP it would probably push us even harder towards it. I don't really care what is best for the club or GA Soccer, just what is best for my child. The more opportunities to play with higher level competition, the better. Everywhere is different so go for it. Odp has been 50/50 for us. One kid enjoyed it except of the politics behind making teams, and the other hated it due to the coaches. Though sounds like your SCCL coach is saying go odp to get scouted by other coaches because your kid might not be able to move to the ECNL team due to politics/legacy kids. |
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Oct 11, 2020 15:16:14 GMT -5
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Post by justhavefun on Oct 11, 2020 15:16:14 GMT -5
Has anyone who signed up for a try out / evaluation been contacted yet ?
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Oct 11, 2020 15:38:32 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Oct 11, 2020 15:38:32 GMT -5
Has anyone who signed up for a try out / evaluation been contacted yet ? 🦗 |
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Oct 11, 2020 20:48:31 GMT -5
Post by soccernoleuk on Oct 11, 2020 20:48:31 GMT -5
Has anyone who signed up for a try out / evaluation been contacted yet ? Nope. |
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Oct 12, 2020 16:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 12, 2020 16:20:52 GMT -5
Bueller...Bueller....
I wonder if the same people managing ODP are also managing State Cup.
Since my kid's team isnt playing for 3 of the November weekends I'm strongly considering trying to find her a guest-playing spot on a tournament team. Since GA Soccer cant get their heads out to plan a month and a half in advance, I'll just have to hope it doesnt create a conflict with these interstate ODP friendlies they're advertising.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Oct 12, 2020 16:30:57 GMT -5
Bueller...Bueller.... I wonder if the same people managing ODP are also managing State Cup. Since my kid's team isnt playing for 3 of the November weekends I'm strongly considering trying to find her a guest-playing spot on a tournament team. Since GA Soccer cant get their heads out to plan a month and a half in advance, I'll just have to hope it doesnt create a conflict with these interstate ODP friendlies they're advertising. Yeah-big announcement then crickets 🦗 |
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Oct 12, 2020 17:45:52 GMT -5
Post by baller84 on Oct 12, 2020 17:45:52 GMT -5
Bueller...Bueller.... I wonder if the same people managing ODP are also managing State Cup. Since my kid's team isnt playing for 3 of the November weekends I'm strongly considering trying to find her a guest-playing spot on a tournament team. Since GA Soccer cant get their heads out to plan a month and a half in advance, I'll just have to hope it doesnt create a conflict with these interstate ODP friendlies they're advertising. That would be quite a contrast. You're right about ODP, don't know what the wait is or the lack of communication after the all hype for ODP this fall. The State Cup schedule on the other hand is looking like the World Cup and sooner than ever before with dates, times, fields and opponents. |
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Oct 12, 2020 19:23:38 GMT -5
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Post by soccerdad76 on Oct 12, 2020 19:23:38 GMT -5
It’s not posted online, but we’ve received an email from the TM with our first several practices.
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Post by bogan on Oct 13, 2020 5:27:39 GMT -5
It’s not posted online, but we’ve received an email from the TM with our first several practices. Haven’t even gotten that, yet. |
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Oct 13, 2020 9:12:40 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 13, 2020 9:12:40 GMT -5
It’s not posted online, but we’ve received an email from the TM with our first several practices. Haven't received anything since 9/30. When do your practices start? |
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Post by Keeper on Oct 13, 2020 10:18:44 GMT -5
Told our boys groups will be at Brook Run starting Friday Oct 30th and then a couple of Sunday nights in Nov and Dec too.
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Oct 13, 2020 11:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by soccerdad76 on Oct 13, 2020 11:44:26 GMT -5
It’s not posted online, but we’ve received an email from the TM with our first several practices. Haven't received anything since 9/30. When do your practices start? 10/23. And just got an email direct from ODP (Kostas) regarding “tryouts”: * To reconfirm, there are NO “open” tryouts for 2004-2008 boys and girls age groups. * Once you have registered, the Scout team will take over the evaluation process and be in contact with you and your player; this may include a visit to the player’s training, a match, and likely an invitation to an ODP training session for final evaluation/assessment by the respective age group staff. * Please DO NOT show up to the tryouts that are being held this weekend Friday, October 16th, and Sunday, October 18th. These tryouts are only for 2009-2010 players only! |
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Oct 13, 2020 12:20:04 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 13, 2020 12:20:04 GMT -5
Either the number wanting evaluations is much smaller than the 400 someone suggested or their "scouting network" is biting off a LOT and will have to attend a lot of games. I have no doubt they are going to favor NL/GPL/Athena/Classic games over SCCL/ECNL/NPL.
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Oct 13, 2020 12:52:30 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 13, 2020 12:52:30 GMT -5
Either the number wanting evaluations is much smaller than the 400 someone suggested or their "scouting network" is biting off a LOT and will have to attend a lot of games. I have no doubt they are going to favor NL/GPL/Athena/Classic games over SCCL/ECNL/NPL. Why do you think they will favor NL, etc? Politics? |
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Oct 13, 2020 13:09:43 GMT -5
Post by atlutd17 on Oct 13, 2020 13:09:43 GMT -5
First off I hope they favor the best players no matter where they come from.
Statistically speaking, and MLS/ECNL being destination leagues, it's expected to see more MLS/ECNL players into ODP but only IF they actually show up.
Going to more comparable leagues, I don't expect a major variance in pools between players in NL(USYS) and SCCL-C/NPL(US Club), so that level of variance in the ODP selections would be a better indicator for the "neutrality" we hope to see.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Oct 13, 2020 13:31:09 GMT -5
First off I hope they favor the best players no matter where they come from. Statistically speaking, and MLS/ECNL being destination leagues, it's expected to see more MLS/ECNL players into ODP but only IF they actually show up. Going to more comparable leagues, I don't expect a major variance in pools between players in NL(USYS) and SCCL-C/NPL(US Club), so that level of variance in the ODP selections would be a better indicator for the "neutrality" we hope to see. Let’s be honest though with regards to neutrality. shouldn’t Georgia Soccer and USYS when evaluating players of equal ability, shouldn’t they give preference to players that have chosen leagues within Georgia soccer and USYS? Sure take the ecnl and gal girls that come out but if there is a tie give the spot to the NL or GPL kid over SCCL and NPL every time. |
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Oct 13, 2020 13:41:37 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 13, 2020 13:41:37 GMT -5
Yeah, just basic politics. If they removed SCCL coaches, I figure they will favor the players at "loyal" clubs also.
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Oct 13, 2020 14:18:09 GMT -5
Post by OTPSoccer on Oct 13, 2020 14:18:09 GMT -5
Told our boys groups will be at Brook Run starting Friday Oct 30th and then a couple of Sunday nights in Nov and Dec too. Where is Brook Run? Is it the Brook Run Park in Dunwoody? I'm not familiar with that complex. |
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Oct 13, 2020 14:29:21 GMT -5
Post by atlutd17 on Oct 13, 2020 14:29:21 GMT -5
First off I hope they favor the best players no matter where they come from. Statistically speaking, and MLS/ECNL being destination leagues, it's expected to see more MLS/ECNL players into ODP but only IF they actually show up. Going to more comparable leagues, I don't expect a major variance in pools between players in NL(USYS) and SCCL-C/NPL(US Club), so that level of variance in the ODP selections would be a better indicator for the "neutrality" we hope to see. Let’s be honest though with regards to neutrality. shouldn’t Georgia Soccer and USYS when evaluating players of equal ability, shouldn’t they give preference to players that have chosen leagues within Georgia soccer and USYS? Sure take the ecnl and gal girls that come out but if there is a tie give the spot to the NL or GPL kid over SCCL and NPL every time. I hear you and understand your point. If the objective of the "Olympic Development Program" is what its title says, that is to identify and develop players for the next level and ultimately the USNT for the Olympics (and beyond), they should select the best players and those talented players with the most potential to get there, regardless of the league they play in. In case of "ties if is that close" they should have both players in the pool until one pulls away one way or the other. |
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Post by bogan on Oct 13, 2020 15:27:51 GMT -5
“Let's hope they do the right thing. ”
A GA ODP joint.
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Oct 13, 2020 15:57:34 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 13, 2020 15:57:34 GMT -5
Let’s be honest though with regards to neutrality. shouldn’t Georgia Soccer and USYS when evaluating players of equal ability, shouldn’t they give preference to players that have chosen leagues within Georgia soccer and USYS? Sure take the ecnl and gal girls that come out but if there is a tie give the spot to the NL or GPL kid over SCCL and NPL every time. I hear you and understand your point. If the objective of the "Olympic Development Program" is what its title says, that is to identify and develop players for the next level and ultimately the USNT for the Olympics (and beyond), they should select the best players and those talented players with the most potential to get there, regardless of the league they play in. In case of "ties if is that close" they should have both players in the pool until one pulls away one way or the other. Right, it doesn't hurt to have more players in the pool. More $$$ for GA ODP. From what I could tell, the pools for 2019-20 were smaller than 2018-19. |
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Oct 13, 2020 22:13:11 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Oct 13, 2020 22:13:11 GMT -5
Told our boys groups will be at Brook Run starting Friday Oct 30th and then a couple of Sunday nights in Nov and Dec too. Where is Brook Run? Is it the Brook Run Park in Dunwoody? I'm not familiar with that complex. Yep. Two brand new turf fields Dunwoody built for Chiefs before they took over Ga Rush. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Oct 14, 2020 18:01:52 GMT -5
$ charged for ODP is nominal. Its great training. Kid played 4 years and enjoyed the training and the friends he developed. He was selected to go to the University of Alabama every year he played so had that experience as well. Thanks to AU for providing their training facility. Players get out of it what the put in.
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Oct 19, 2020 7:53:50 GMT -5
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Post by fgug on Oct 19, 2020 7:53:50 GMT -5
How was it?
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Oct 19, 2020 11:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by soccer888 on Oct 19, 2020 11:10:18 GMT -5
Has anyone older than 2009s & new to ODP been evaluated yet or even contacted? We paid $45 weeks ago, still nothing.
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Oct 19, 2020 11:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by soccerspin on Oct 19, 2020 11:18:23 GMT -5
Has anyone older than 2009s & new to ODP been evaluated yet or even contacted? We paid $45 weeks ago, still nothing. 2006 boys friend of ours has not heard anything yet either... |
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Oct 19, 2020 12:38:47 GMT -5
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Post by wolves97 on Oct 19, 2020 12:38:47 GMT -5
I know several on the scouting staff.
Haven’t heard a word from any of them though
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Post by heretounderstand on Oct 19, 2020 20:49:28 GMT -5
practice schedule went out today to TMs, reach out to your TM if you haven’t heard anything yet
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